Re: Labs

[Guest guest]

Vicki

My Vitamin B-12 runs well over 1000 (usually 1400Plus)and has every

since I had the Ds and started taking vitamins on a regular basis.

My research and asking Doctors say It is OK, not harmful, to have

HIGH levels of B-12. So don't worry about that one.

Low LDL is a good thing. Desirable. That is your bad cholestrol.

Celebrate you 65 lab result.

HDL is your good Cholestrol and you don't want it to be LOW. I'm a

bit confused about the numbers you posted at the range " HDL should be

at least 3.9 and it is 2.7 " These my be unique to your lab or there

may be another 'standard' out there. Mostly the labs I see are more

in the ranges of 40's 50's Numbers like that. For men Desirable

ranges should fall above 40. Women need to be above 50. 60 is

fantastic! With HDL higher is better.

To raise your HDL

Don't Smoke.

EXERCISE

Eat nuts, peanut butter...

Eat Avocados

Eat fish

Eat Olive oils, Canola Oil, Avocado Oil

Eat anything with Omega-3 fatty acids

Eat soluble fiber: Oats, fruits, veggies, beans..

Drink Cranberry juice

Avoid eating Trans Fatty acids: Read labels looking for " Partially

Hydrogenated Veg. Oil " This also Increases belly fat.

Your BUN and Creatine level are looking at Kidney function. Your Bun

was normal so don't worry about it. A high protein diet will cause

it to be on the higher end of normal. Also Dehdration will cause it

to be high so stay hydrated.

Your Potassium levels are fine. Potassium is an electrolyte. Being

low can be a result of dirrhea and dehydration. So stay hydrated.

Your blood calcium levels are fine...especially if your...PTH isn't

HIGH. Plus, your Vit. D and Magnesium isn't LOW then your doing great.

My diagnosis

Your going to live.

Hugs

Jo

Who isn't a doctor so my diagnosis isn't worth snot. lol

>

> Well I got them back today and there are just a few I have

questions

> about. My iron is great. Calicium is 8.7 and the lowest it should

be is

> 8.5 so I should watch that one. My concern is my B12 is high. The

range

> is 180-914 and mine is at 1035. Then my LDL and HDL are both low.

The

> HDL should be at least 3.9 and it is 2.7. My LDL should be 75-130

and

> it is at 65. Then there is the BUN level. The range is 8-20 and I

am at

> 19. SHould I be concerned? My BUN/Creat ratio is at 24.7 and the

range

> is 6-27. Some of these numbers are very close so I wanted to see if

I

> should be concerned. Potassium is at 3.7 and 3.6 is the lowest it

> should be. I know I am throwing a lot of numbers out there but any

> feedback would be great.

>

> VIcki

>

[Guest guest]

YAY!! Im gonna live.........lol. There was a typo which confused you and Doc so

here is the correct number. HDL 45 and should be 35-85.  The HDL ratio is what I

posted by mistake.

I excercise everyday so I have that part down but I will eat more of the foods

you listed. As for water, I definitely have fallen short there so up goes my

water intake. Thanks so much

 

V

 **** and Vicki Plough ****

Subject: Re: Labs

To: DS_Friends_Keshishian

Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 2:38 PM

Vicki

My Vitamin B-12 runs well over 1000 (usually 1400Plus)and has every

since I had the Ds and started taking vitamins on a regular basis.

My research and asking Doctors say It is OK, not harmful, to have

HIGH levels of B-12. So don't worry about that one.

Low LDL is a good thing. Desirable. That is your bad cholestrol.

Celebrate you 65 lab result.

HDL is your good Cholestrol and you don't want it to be LOW. I'm a

bit confused about the numbers you posted at the range " HDL should be

at least 3.9 and it is 2.7 " These my be unique to your lab or there

may be another 'standard' out there. Mostly the labs I see are more

in the ranges of 40's 50's Numbers like that. For men Desirable

ranges should fall above 40. Women need to be above 50. 60 is

fantastic! With HDL higher is better.

To raise your HDL

Don't Smoke.

EXERCISE

Eat nuts, peanut butter...

Eat Avocados

Eat fish

Eat Olive oils, Canola Oil, Avocado Oil

Eat anything with Omega-3 fatty acids

Eat soluble fiber: Oats, fruits, veggies, beans..

Drink Cranberry juice

Avoid eating Trans Fatty acids: Read labels looking for " Partially

Hydrogenated Veg. Oil " This also Increases belly fat.

Your BUN and Creatine level are looking at Kidney function. Your Bun

was normal so don't worry about it. A high protein diet will cause

it to be on the higher end of normal. Also Dehdration will cause it

to be high so stay hydrated.

Your Potassium levels are fine. Potassium is an electrolyte. Being

low can be a result of dirrhea and dehydration. So stay hydrated.

Your blood calcium levels are fine...especially if your...PTH isn't

HIGH. Plus, your Vit. D and Magnesium isn't LOW then your doing great.

My diagnosis

Your going to live.

Hugs

Jo

Who isn't a doctor so my diagnosis isn't worth snot. lol

>

> Well I got them back today and there are just a few I have

questions

> about. My iron is great. Calicium is 8.7 and the lowest it should

be is

> 8.5 so I should watch that one. My concern is my B12 is high. The

range

> is 180-914 and mine is at 1035. Then my LDL and HDL are both low.

The

> HDL should be at least 3.9 and it is 2.7. My LDL should be 75-130

and

> it is at 65. Then there is the BUN level. The range is 8-20 and I

am at

> 19. SHould I be concerned? My BUN/Creat ratio is at 24.7 and the

range

> is 6-27. Some of these numbers are very close so I wanted to see if

I

> should be concerned. Potassium is at 3.7 and 3.6 is the lowest it

> should be. I know I am throwing a lot of numbers out there but any

> feedback would be great.

>

> VIcki

>

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I just know our local labcorp office are butt heads and told me they

wouldn't let me have it otherwise. That being said they did the labs 2 yrs ago

and

didn't fax the labs like instructed AND acted like asses when I asked them

about it. They spelled his name some wild way and said the report didn't have a

number to fax to. They didn't copy it off the form. So they just did the labs

and let them sit in the computer without any results to any physician of any

kind. Seems to me they would have called me and asked about it or something.

Anyway, They told me I needed it in writing on the form. I will always follow

through after that incident. I mean what if it had been a panic value like

it was in 2004( I spent Christmas getting transfused) and they let it sit.

That is a lawsuit waiting to happen and they should have more sense than that.

In a message dated 12/2/2008 8:36:24 P.M. Central Standard Time,

moobabies@... writes:

In the very beginning I think there was a

note on the labs to Copy to Patient...or to Copy to Primary care

Physician...Physician...<WBR>.this didn't do much good...at least

told me NO..we will copy to the Doctor on order and he can send it to

whom he pleases but WE will only send the labs to one place.

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Mel

Go to www.dssurgery.com. In the CONTACT section write your request

and see what happens. Dr. K does read what is wrote there. He isn't

at the meetings all the time anymore...so " seeing " him to relay the

info is hit and miss.

In fact I don't think I will be at a meeting for a couple of months.

Having said that When I do eventually see or Dr. K I have no

problem mentioning it to them.

One problem that I see. In the very beginning I think there was a

note on the labs to Copy to Patient...or to Copy to Primary care

Physician....this didn't do much good...at least at MY lab. They

told me NO..we will copy to the Doctor on order and he can send it to

whom he pleases but WE will only send the labs to one place.

I don't know if this is a lab policy that is wide spread or if it was

just the gal behind the desk on the day I went and it was 7 years

ago.

You are completely right...it is a pain trying to get copies of your

labs and it creates more work for the office.

Hugs

Jo

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Mel,

You're right on target. Your labs are YOUR property and you are

legally and thically entitled to them. The lab is NOT entitled to tell

you to contact your doctor if you want a copy. I went through this

recently myself.

Phil

==================================================================

>

> I have a suggestion that someone might put a bug in 's ear or

Dr

> K's. If they would put on the lab request " copy to patient " as well

as their fax

> numbers, It would be easier for us to get our labs and be proactive

in our

> care.

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Phil,

I don't understand why they are so silly about giving you a copy of

labs,x rays, and all of your personal medical info. They send you to the

doc...Then if you want a copy of your records they charge ridiculous amounts

for the

copy. I saw one doc's office that charges a 25 dollar search fee and a

dollar a page for every page of the record. That is how they get around the

HIPPA

because how many people can afford 50-100 dollars for a copy of their records?

You know when you go to a bank or get loans ect... they give you or at

least have to provide you with a copy of everything that you sign and you have

to sign tha you were informed of things like interest rates and fees. How

much better care would we get if docs were expected to provide us with a copy

of all of our labs, tests and other medical information so we can discuss and

ask questions in an informed manner? I would gladly sign a paper saying I

obtained them. I mean pharmacies have a place where you can ask questions about

your meds. Why do docs (Not Dr K, I mean locally, in Alabama) just tell you

everything is or isn't ok and expect you to take it at face value?

I have a friend who was recently diagnosed with an autoimmune disease.

She has been trying to get docs to find out what was wrong with her for at

least 5 years. She was told everything fro Fibromyalgia to depression was

wrong.

In the end it was an easy diagnosis that was noted on a simple chest x ray

and noted as a granuloma 5 years ago and ignored by a neurosurgeon as a

irevalent spot, stating that most people in Alabama probably had similar spots.

It

was seen on two other old ct scans- If she had seen the report instead of

just taking the docs opinion that it was ok, she might have gotten help 5 yrs

ago. Many times I have had docs tell me that labs were fine to get a copy and

see that things were not " normal " .

I guess you can tell I am frustrated as hell with the medical situation

here. It is hard when you don't know where to turn for answers. and when you

do go, they send you to a specialist with an appointment in 4 months!

Mel

In a message dated 12/4/2008 9:00:34 P.M. Central Standard Time,

philzach@... writes:

Your labs are YOUR property and you are

legally and thically entitled to them. The lab is NOT entitled to tell

you to contact your doctor if you want a copy. I went through this

recently myself.

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It is just so frustrating when they tell you to be proactive then they put

obstacles in your way at every turn to make sure it isn't easy. I can't imagine

how people with limited medical knowledge feels when I am a nurse and stay

so frustrated. Or maybe that is the problem, I know enough to be scared or to

know what can and does go wrong. Sometimes ignorance is bliss...LOL. Maybe

I'd do better with not much knowledge and blind faith to do what the docs tell

me......

Mel

In a message dated 12/5/2008 7:40:34 P.M. Central Standard Time,

moobabies@... writes:

Mel

Your story proves the point that we MUST follow up and make sure our

labs get to where they are going. It would be nice to not have to

worry about those things...but that isn't the reality of the world.

Hugs

Jo

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Mel

Your story proves the point that we MUST follow up and make sure our

labs get to where they are going. It would be nice to not have to

worry about those things...but that isn't the reality of the world.

Hugs

Jo

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Maybe

> I'd do better with not much knowledge and blind faith to do what

the docs tell

> me......

>

Mel

------------------------

lol...I'd bet the Docs would be happier if you just went on blind

faith! But Docs need to change with the world. The internet has

changed the face of many things and patient medical knowledge is one

of them. Some of that " net knowledge " is good valid stuff...some..,

not so much. The Docs have to step up to the plate and realize that

patients can now find and " talk " to each other WORLD wide, we can

compare our medical treatment. We have more questions, and want more

input in our medical care. We have become more difficult to deal

with as we don't go on blind faith. Add to needing to spend more

time explaining things to us they actually have less " time " per

patient in order to push the numbers thru their office. I wouldn't

want to be a Doc for NOTHING these days. It isn't the job it used to

be, it isn't respected like it used to be and the income doesn't

match the years and years of education needed, and the insurance and,

and, and....

hugs

Jo

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Nursing has changed also. So many people assume you are neglecting their

loved ones when you are doing your best. Do you know I was screamed at going

down the hall during a code and " momma's: meds were 20 minutes late. Sometimes a

whole shift was putting out fires if you know what I mean. I used to get so

mad when people would come asking me stuff I didn't know because the doc ran

in and out while they were on the bedpan or something and then they were gone.

I'd have to go hunt down the doc. I always told them that they should tell

that doc to stop and not let him go until the questions were answered.

One example of what I have had to deal with was before I had

prescription coverage. I saw the doc, She had been ordering meds that were semi

reasonably priced(under 100...LOL) and I was fixing to leave and looked at my

scripts. There was a med on there i had never seen before. I asked to talk to

the

doc and the nurse came back and said she ordered it because it helped fibro pts

with alertness. I didn't fuss and left. This was on a Thursday afternoon. I

got to the pharmacy and this drug cost almost 300 dollars for 60 pills. I

told the pharmacy that I couldn't do it and they would have to keep it. WELL,

They tried to call the doc and she had left, they were closed Friday and

monday, which normally would not be a problem but they scheduled the visit where

my

prescriptions had no extra to do the weekend. They do no call and the only

option would be the ER for emergencies, and the doc has on all her

prescriptions " fill all or None''. So I had to wait until they called me back

late wed

to get it straight. Several meds your not supposed to stop abruptly(Topamax

and an antidepressant that doesn't work if your blood levels drop). So this is

what I dealt with here and with the old doc.

Be glad you are near Dr K, Like Elle, you know I have had troubles

making them understand my needs.

Mel(Through

Bi1%#ing for the night ...LOL)

In a message dated 12/6/2008 4:59:31 A.M. Central Standard Time,

moobabies@... writes:

I wouldn't

want to be a Doc for NOTHING these days. It isn't the job it used to

be, it isn't respected like it used to be and the income doesn't

match the years and years of education needed, and the insurance and,

and, and....

hugs

Jo

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