Re: RE: Which probiotic can work for PANDAS patients?

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Christel, unfortunately we are on Klair Labs Therabotic Complete, what brand or type of probiotic work for PANDAS?

After I boosted up doesage on Klair Labs to 50 millions CFUs, my son has improvement on yeast and mood ( calmer), but I am worry about the effects about antibody attacking because of my son's system ( PANDAS kid) can't tell good bac...

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Subject: Re: Re: VSL #3, casein/strepTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 8:22 PM

actually not true, although it's GOOD bacteria in kids with PANDAS there body can't tell the difference and forms antibodies to it thinking it bad and then attacks the brain and other organs in the body like an autoimmune thing, many with PANDAS are finding this accidently through testing for antibodies ON probtoics with strep lines and then going off and retesting and finding numbers will FINALLY plumit even with out treatments, I know several with even 3 or 4 rounds of treatments can't get titers down while doing strep line probotics, who go off them and then can finally get them down because the body isn't being triggered by the strep lines, we saw this with klaire labs therabotic complete. we saw the cycle stop once we stopped using this in rotation.

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Re: VSL #3, casein/strep

Not everyone's kids are affected by the trace amounts of casein found in products like VSL#3. Of course some are. That's why there is no one answer for anything. Sometimes when targeting a specific problem we have to weigh all the information equally and then decide what course of action to proceed with specific to your child only.The "strep" found in VSL#3 (streptococcus thermophilus) is beneficial bacteria, and has nothing to do with the harmful bacterial strains that cause things like strep throat, etc... This is caused by the "bad strep" strain of streptococcus pyogenes.> > Hi from Rei to Christel and our group,> > We are very excited to received our very first OAT

test and finally it clarifys our thought that has been bothering us for years and years. Yes. My son has a bad, real bad yeast overgrowth. The strange thing is that my son has never had any GI problems, sleep through nights ever since he was born, good apepities all the time, but he has huge OCD, stimming and looks light weighed all the time( he eats a lot, but can't put on any weighs..)> So, all of this pedi in his life have never looked into yeast problem, until I joined this group and learned about so much on yeast overgrowth and DAN protocals...> Thank you Christel to refer me to Dr. B as well.> > I will not have an appointment to Dr. B for a while, plus we still wait on other several lab results. During the waiting period, I want to start to get yeast under control. I need to know what kind doesages on OLE you will recommend? My son has been on Nutribiotic GSE and OLE for 2

months, he only takes 250mg GSE per day and 300mg OLE per day. I dont think it is enough after i read the result. He has 240 valume on Arabinose ( normal is below 47), and 0.84 on 3-Oxglutaric ( normal is below 0.5)...> My son is 10 years old, weighs 68lbs ( he dropped weigh 4 lbs in the lasta 2 months).> > He also on probiotic 50 billion cfu at night.> > For high Oxalate, anybody has any suggestions or experience to share here, how to lower oxalate? ( We already on low oxalate diet)> > Thanks a lot.> > Rei > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1626 - Release Date: 8/21/2008 6:54 PM>No virus

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we still do klaire labs but the detox support and not the complete

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Re: VSL #3, casein/strep

Not everyone's kids are affected by the trace amounts of casein found in products like VSL#3. Of course some are. That's why there is no one answer for anything. Sometimes when targeting a specific problem we have to weigh all the information equally and then decide what course of action to proceed with specific to your child only.The "strep" found in VSL#3 (streptococcus thermophilus) is beneficial bacteria, and has nothing to do with the harmful bacterial strains that cause things like strep throat, etc... This is caused by the "bad strep" strain of streptococcus pyogenes.> > Hi from Rei to Christel and our group,> > We are very excited to received our very first OAT test and finally it clarifys our thought that has been bothering us for years and years. Yes. My son has a bad, real bad yeast overgrowth. The strange thing is that my son has never had any GI problems, sleep through nights ever since he was born, good apepities all the time, but he has huge OCD, stimming and looks light weighed all the time( he eats a lot, but can't put on any weighs..)> So, all of this pedi in his life have never looked into yeast problem, until I joined this group and learned about so much on yeast overgrowth and DAN protocals...> Thank you Christel to refer me to Dr. B as well.> > I will not have an appointment to Dr. B for a while, plus we still wait on other several lab results. During the waiting period, I want to start to get yeast under control. I need to know what kind doesages on OLE you will recommend? My son has been on Nutribiotic GSE and OLE for 2 months, he only takes 250mg GSE per day and 300mg OLE per day. I dont think it is enough after i read the result. He has 240 valume on Arabinose ( normal is below 47), and 0.84 on 3-Oxglutaric ( normal is below 0.5)...> My son is 10 years old, weighs 68lbs ( he dropped weigh 4 lbs in the lasta 2 months).> > He also on probiotic 50 billion cfu at night.> > For high Oxalate, anybody has any suggestions or experience to share here, how to lower oxalate? ( We already on low oxalate diet)> > Thanks a lot.> > Rei > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1626 - Release Date: 8/21/2008 6:54 PM>No virus

found in this incoming message.

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