Guest guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 We are in the same boat. Our 2 and half old boy will have nothing to do with the potty. Even if you say potty he will say no (one of the 2 words he says) He will point to his but when he is done. The treat idea is great but unsure on how to get started ? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryDate: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:44:07 -0400To: <autism-georgia >Subject: RE: Potty Training My son was particularly resistant to training as well. This didnt improve until I bought a treasure box with different types of treats to encourage going. A little rough at first as even when he didnt want to go in potty he still demanded a treat. You have to be consistent because if you cave in without him earning the reward he will learn that you have a limit and WILL work on exceeding that limit in order to get what he wants. There will probably many tantrums thru the course of things but he will eventually figure out rewards are only given as a result of using the potty. Only use the treasure box for the training as it will be harde to maintain. Example: only use certain kinds of treats like a lollipop or something else. Kids like a wide variety of treats so mix it up for different kinds of rewarding behavior. I know it sounds like a bribe but it worked with my son until he no longer wanted treats because the novelty o f being a "Big" kid was satisfying for him enough. To: autism-georgia From: widdle_one81Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 22:28:57 +0000Subject: Potty Training I have a 3 1/2 y/o DD that we potty trained using the Emory/TACA method about two months ago. She will only use the bathroom at home, and she doesn't like for us to be in the bathroom when she voids. However, if we leave her in the bathroom unattended she will strip down and put everything in the potty along with her waste. Also, with her bm's she's not as likely to use the toilet...She just goes where she is. Any suggestions or advice? She's non-verbal so she doesn't communicate with us that she needs to go, we just put her on the toilet and eventually she goes. She cries a LOT too, like she doesn't like to sit on the toilet. It's very stressful. I just want some help please.CC Got Game? Win Prizes in the Windows Live Hotmail Mobile Summer Games Trivia Contest Find out how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 We used a similar method this summer and our daughter is also trip trained. 2 things that come to mind from your email. The first thing is that you mention she is upset while sitting. When we were in the sit on the potty till you go stage we made it as fun as possible to sit on the potty. We used toys, videos, singing, etc. while she was waiting to go. Even though at the beginnig she was sitting forever (sometimes hours) she was pretty happy most of the time. The second part is the actual reinforcement when she goes potty. At first we were just using edibles and praise. We realized that this wasn't enough as she just simply wasn't getting it. We racked our brains for what would be a really big reinforcer to her. I realized that swimming was the ultimate reinforcer for Molly but since I couldn't throw her in a pool everytime she went we decided on a bath. So 11 or 12 times a day at the beginnig she got a short play in the bath after getting her M & Ms. Now we have faded the reinforcer to an M & M, flushing, and hand washing. Also, she has progressed from sitting for awhile to go to going immediately when placed on the potty. If she doesn't go within 5 minutes she gets off (no reinforcer) and we try again in 30 minutes. I am thinking you may want to back up a bit to see if you can get more instructional control while on the potty (with you in the bathroom) and a big reinforcer that will get her attention and possibly have her void sooner. Just to mention also that my daughter is 2 years older than yours - I cannot even imagine doing this when you have done it so hats off to you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Thank you. We sure will give it a whirl. The doc said not to force him to sit on the potty or he will dislike it like he does. We pulled him out of the daycare he was a put him into a better one. It is almost double what we were paying but we think it will be worth it as when he goes into the early learning program they will transport him there and back. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryDate: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:25:16 -0400To: <autism-georgia >Subject: RE: Potty Training I got a box with 2 different treats, which he immediately demanded. He was stubborn at first, he still did not want to use the potty even though I knew he had been using potty at school. I stood my ground and explained to him, no potty, no reward. Once he saw that he wasnt to get hi way he slowly began to cooperate. No more problems once he started to go and got a treat. Only thing is, getting him to not be so dependant on the treats, work your way from treats with praise (always praise rewarding behavior!) to just praise. My son is so proud of himself when I start clapping and he feels like a big boy. Good luck. An idea for the treats is like M & Ms, start with 5 and after a week give 4 and so on. To: autism-georgia From: jamieogibavzw (DOT) blackberry.netDate: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:23:28 +0000Subject: Re: Potty Training We are in the same boat. Our 2 and half old boy will have nothing to do with the potty. Even if you say potty he will say no (one of the 2 words he says) He will point to his but when he is done. The treat idea is great but unsure on how to get started ? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: Doxakis <jenniferdoxakishotmail>Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:44:07 -0400To: <autism-georgia >Subject: RE: Potty Training My son was particularly resistant to training as well. This didnt improve until I bought a treasure box with different types of treats to encourage going. A little rough at first as even when he didnt want to go in potty he still demanded a treat. You have to be consistent because if you cave in without him earning the reward he will learn that you have a limit and WILL work on exceeding that limit in order to get what he wants. There will probably many tantrums thru the course of things but he will eventually figure out rewards are only given as a result of using the potty. Only use the treasure box for the training as it will be harde to maintain. Example: only use certain kinds of treats like a lollipop or something else. Kids like a wide variety of treats so mix it up for different kinds of rewarding behavior. I know it sounds like a bribe but it worked with my son until he no longer wanted treats because the novelty o f being a "Big" kid was satisfying for him enough. To: autism-georgia From: widdle_one81Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 22:28:57 +0000Subject: Potty TrainingI have a 3 1/2 y/o DD that we potty trained using the Emory/TACA method about two months ago. She will only use the bathroom at home, and she doesn't like for us to be in the bathroom when she voids. However, if we leave her in the bathroom unattended she will strip down and put everything in the potty along with her waste. Also, with her bm's she's not as likely to use the toilet...She just goes where she is. Any suggestions or advice? She's non-verbal so she doesn't communicate with us that she needs to go, we just put her on the toilet and eventually she goes. She cries a LOT too, like she doesn't like to sit on the toilet. It's very stressful. I just want some help please.CC Got Game? Win Prizes in the Windows Live Hotmail Mobile Summer Games Trivia Contest Find out how. Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. See how Windows® fits your life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 As far as hating to sit on the potty - we used a lot of reinforcement while sitting on the potty as well (just different reinforcement than when she goes). However, we did try last summer (when she was 4) and ended up giving up and trying a year later as the toilet was so aversive to her. We spent the year getting good instructional control across all fields and it really helped with potty training. I was amazed that she would sit for sometimes hours with very little complaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 The Emory Autism Clinic holds toilet training workshops monthly. My wife and I are going to give it a go for our almost 3 yo son in a few months. Here is a link to a brochure for their workshop in May (it has contact info in it.) http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:9BrjjFdlsr0J:www.psychiatry.emory.edu/PROGRA\ MS/autism/pdf-files/Toilet%2520Training%2520May%25202009.pdf+emory+autism+potty+\ training & cd=1 & hl=en & ct=clnk & gl=us > > > Hello friends! > any tips for potty training moderate asd 4 yr old girl? it's driving me nuts > and costing me a small fortune in pull ups. receptive communication minimal > expressive com even less. ANY and all Advice much appreciated! thanks! God > bless! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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