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Dear ,

I was taking Siberian ginseng when I got hyperT, and was told to discontinue

use. However, I also was told that Siberian ginseng is not the same as

ginseng. Are both bad for hypers? Does anyone know?

AntJoan

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In a message dated 3/25/00 11:36:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, AntJoan@...

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<< Dear ,

I was taking Siberian ginseng when I got hyperT, and was told to discontinue

use. However, I also was told that Siberian ginseng is not the same as

ginseng. Are both bad for hypers? Does anyone know?

AntJoan >>

Hi AntJoan,

I don't think anyone knows for sure. There are many types of ginseng,

but generally there are heating ones and cooling ones. The heating ones

increase the rate of metabolism and the cooling ones decrease it

(apparently). I know that Korean ginseng is a heating or stimulating ginseng

and is the one I was taking when I developed hyperT. I don't know which

class Siberian ginseng falls into.

In light of the lack of information about this I would recommend staying

away from ginseng despite all the glowing recommendations. Remember ginseng

is not an essential nutrient but it affects the endocrine system, perhaps

because the chemicals in it are similar to endocrine hormones.

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<< Okay,

I need help now. I am supposedly hypo, but having serious heart probs,

such that I have to stop often to catch my breath when walking,and walkind

up stairs is a real challenge.

Should I increase some supplement here? This is very new to me.

Joyce in VT >>

Hi Joyce,

What are you taking now?

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Okay,

I need help now. I am supposedly hypo, but having serious heart probs,

such that I have to stop often to catch my breath when walking,and walkind

up stairs is a real challenge.

Should I increase some supplement here? This is very new to me.

Joyce in VT

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Ginseng is a stimulating herb, I've heard it referred

to as a 'warm' herb, as opposed to cool I guess, and

shouldn't be used in 'warm' diseases - I don't know

that much about the traditional chinese medicines but

they seem to know something! Anyway, normally ginseng

is a good liver tonic, but it's NOT good for any

chronic inflammatory conditions - and HCV is a chronic

inflammatory condition. From all I've read, I don't

think very small doses, or just taken occasionally,

would be harmful, just continously taking it in more

than tiny doses. The ma-huang (Ephedra) is also not

good for you. It is probably less safe than the

ginseng. You know, if you get your thyroid under

control you will probably get your energy back. When

my thyroid quit I couldn't walk from one room to the

next without stopping to rest. It was awful! Even

early this year, when my TSH was up to 3.36, I was

tired all the time, no energy, memory problems,

irritable, dry skin, dry hair, etc. I got on the

Cytomel, in addition to my T4 supplement, TSH went

down below 1, and I feel GREAT now! (Well, most of the

time anyway! - BIG difference.)Better yet, the levoxyl

(generic synthroid, T4 supplement) is probably cheaper

than the herbs you're taking!

C

--- AndromedaGurl <andromedagurl@...> wrote:

>

> I haven't read anything too negative on ginseng

> except that it is a blood

> thinner. What info do you have?

>

> I ask cuz I take a lot of ginseng, gingko and mah

> huang (sp) so I can work.

> Otherwise I'm just a tired blob of human blubber

> lol.

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Ginseng is a stimulating herb, I've heard it referred

to as a 'warm' herb, as opposed to cool I guess, and

shouldn't be used in 'warm' diseases - I don't know

that much about the traditional chinese medicines but

they seem to know something! Anyway, normally ginseng

is a good liver tonic, but it's NOT good for any

chronic inflammatory conditions - and HCV is a chronic

inflammatory condition. From all I've read, I don't

think very small doses, or just taken occasionally,

would be harmful, just continously taking it in more

than tiny doses. The ma-huang (Ephedra) is also not

good for you. It is probably less safe than the

ginseng. You know, if you get your thyroid under

control you will probably get your energy back. When

my thyroid quit I couldn't walk from one room to the

next without stopping to rest. It was awful! Even

early this year, when my TSH was up to 3.36, I was

tired all the time, no energy, memory problems,

irritable, dry skin, dry hair, etc. I got on the

Cytomel, in addition to my T4 supplement, TSH went

down below 1, and I feel GREAT now! (Well, most of the

time anyway! - BIG difference.)Better yet, the levoxyl

(generic synthroid, T4 supplement) is probably cheaper

than the herbs you're taking!

C

--- AndromedaGurl <andromedagurl@...> wrote:

>

> I haven't read anything too negative on ginseng

> except that it is a blood

> thinner. What info do you have?

>

> I ask cuz I take a lot of ginseng, gingko and mah

> huang (sp) so I can work.

> Otherwise I'm just a tired blob of human blubber

> lol.

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http://www.merck.com/mmhe/au/sec02/ch019/ch019l.html

Ginseng

Background: Ginseng is usually derived from two different species of plant: American and Asian ginseng. American ginseng is milder than Asian ginseng. Ginseng is available in many forms, such as fresh and dried roots, extracts, solutions, capsules, tablets, cosmetics, sodas, and teas. The active components are panaxosides in American ginseng and ginsenosides in Asian ginseng.

Siberian ginseng is not really ginseng and contains different active components, but it has antistress effects similar to those of American and Asian ginseng.

Ginseng products vary considerably in quality; many contain little or no detectable active ingredient. In a very few cases, some ginseng products from Asia have been purposefully mixed with mandrake root, which has been used to induce vomiting, or with phenylbutazone or aminopyrine—drugs that were removed from the market in the United States because of unacceptable side effects.

Medicinal Claims: Ginseng is used to enhance physical (including sexual) and mental performance and to increase energy and resistance to the harmful effects of stress and aging. Ginseng appears to reduce blood sugar levels and increase levels of high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol—the "good" cholesterol. It may also increase hemoglobin and protein levels in the blood.

Evaluating some of ginseng's effects is difficult because measuring an increase in energy and other quality-of-life effects is difficult. In one small study of people with diabetes, ginseng reduced blood sugar levels and, according to subjective report, improved mood and energy. In one large but short study, ginseng improved quality of life, according to subjective report.

Possible Side Effects: Ginseng has a reasonably good safety record. The most common side effects are nervousness and excitability, which usually decrease after the first few days. The ability to concentrate may be decreased, and blood sugar may decrease to abnormally low levels (causing hypoglycemia). Because ginseng has an estrogen-like effect, women who are pregnant or breastfeeding should not take it, nor should children. Occasionally, there have been reports of more serious side effects, such as asthma attacks, increased blood pressure, palpitations, and, in postmenopausal women, uterine bleeding. To many people, ginseng tastes unpleasant.

Ginseng can interact with anticoagulants, aspirin , other nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), corticosteroids, digoxin , estrogen replacement therapy, monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOIs—used to treat depression), and drugs that decrease blood sugar levels (hypoglycemic drugs, used to treat diabetes).

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Some Trade Names ECOTRINASPERGUM

Last full review/revision February 2003

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