Re: One interpretation of HR 875

March 14, 2009

Hi Joy,

this is what I got from going to that link you posted on this...do you have more info to help me submit my comment for HR 875? thnx Michele

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From: Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...>Subject: [ ] One interpretation of HR 875 Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 5:10 PM

If this is true. Everyone should be contacting their Representatives and screaming.

HR 875 The food police, criminalizing organic farming and the backyard gardener, and violation of the 10th amendment

Posted by Lydia on 03/06/09 03:36 AM [Older: Is this an opportunity to push the Indiana Honest Money act? ]

HR 875 http://thomas. loc.gov/cgi- bin/query/ F?c111:1: ./temp/~c1112RD9 bb:e11439:

This bill is sitting in committee and I am not sure when it is going to hit the floor. One thing I do know is that very few of the Representatives have read it. As usual they will vote on this based on what someone else is saying. Urge your members to read the legislation and ask for opposition to this devastating legislation. Devastating for everyday folks but great for factory farming ops like Monsanto, ADM, Sodexo and Tyson to name a few.

I have no doubt that this legislation was heavily influenced by lobbyists from huge food producers. This legislation is so broad based that technically someone with a little backyard garden could get fined and have their property siezed. It will effect anyone who produces food even if they do not sell but only consume it. It will literally put all independent farmers and food producers out of business due to the huge amounts of money it will take to conform to factory farming methods. If people choose to farm without industry standards such as chemical pesticides and fertilizers they will be subject to a vareity of harassment from this completely new agency that has never before existed. That's right, a whole new government agency is being created just to police food, for our own protection of course.

DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, READ THIS LEGISLATION FOR YOURSELF. The more people who read this legislation the more insight we are going to get and be able to share. Post your observations and insights below. Urge your members to read this legislation and to oppose the passage of this legislation.

Pay special attention to

Section 3 which is the definitions portion of the bill-read in it's entirety. section 103, 206 and 207- read in it's entirety.

Red flags I found and I am sure there are more........ ...

Legally binds state agriculture depts to enforcing federal guidelines effectively taking away the states power to do anything other than being food police for the federal dept. Effectively criminalizes organic farming but doesn't actually use the word organic. Effects anyone growing food even if they are not selling it but consuming it. Effects anyone producing meat of any kind including wild game. Legislation is so broad based that every aspect of growing or producing food can be made illegal. There are no specifics which is bizarre considering how long the legislation is. Section 103 is almost entirely about the administrative aspect of the legislation. It will allow the appointing of officials from the factory farming corporations and lobbyists and classify them as experts and allow them to determine and interpret the legislation. Who do you think they are going to side with? Section 206 defines what will be considered a food production facility and what will be enforced up all food production facilities. The wording is so broad based that a backyard gardener could be fined and more. Section 207 requires that the state's agriculture dept act as the food police and enforce the federal requirements. This takes away the states power and is in violation of the 10th amendment. There are many more but by the time I got this far in the legislation I was so alarmed that I wanted to bring someone's attention to it. (to the one person who reads my blog)

Didn't Stalin nationalize farming methods that enabled his administration to gain control over the food supply? Didn't Stalin use the food to control the people?

Last word...... Legislate religion and enforce gag orders on ministers on what can and can't be said in the pulpit, instituting regulations forcing people to rely soley on the government, control the money and the food. What is that called? It is on the tip of my tongue...... ....

I haven't read any of the Senate's version of the bill as I have been poring thru the House's version. Here is the link and I hope some of you can take a look and post your observations and insights below. One thing I am pretty sure of is that very few if any Senator's have actually read the legislation and when it comes up for a vote they will more than likely take someone else's word on how they should vote. The other thing I am pretty sure about is that the legislation was probably written by lobbyists and industry experts.

S 425 http://thomas. loc.gov/cgi- bin/bdquery/ z?d111:s425:

Things you can do

Contact your members at 202-224-3121 and ask them to oppose HR 875 and S 425. While you are at it ask them if they personally have read the legislation and what their position is? If they have not read the legislation ask them to read it and politely let them know that just because other representitives are not reading the legislation and voting on it does not mean they can do the same. Get in touch with local farmers and food producers by attending a local farmers market and asking them how business is. Attend a local WAPF meeting, this is a good start to learning about what is going on in farming and local & state initiatives . The website is http://www.westonap rice.org/ localchapters/ index.html Check out the Farmers Legal Defense Fund at http://www.ftcldf. org/index. html Find out who sits on your states agriculture and farming committee and contact them with your concerns. Continue to contact your elected officials and let them know your position on legislation and why. Get active at the local and state levels, this is the quickest way to initiate change.

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March 14, 2009

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http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-875

This is where I went to get the actual bill. Ron is fighting it. I Googled "HR 875 Bill". With this and the Codex, this country will be a disaster in 20 years. Of course dying people is an excellent way to thin an overly populated country that is using up the natural resources.

[ ] One interpretation of HR 875 Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 5:10 PM

If this is true. Everyone should be contacting their Representatives and screaming.

HR 875 The food police, criminalizing organic farming and the backyard gardener, and violation of the 10th amendment

Posted by Lydia on 03/06/09 03:36 AM [Older: Is this an opportunity to push the Indiana Honest Money act? ]

HR 875 http://thomas. loc.gov/cgi- bin/query/ F?c111:1: ./temp/~c1112RD9 bb:e11439:

This bill is sitting in committee and I am not sure when it is going to hit the floor. One thing I do know is that very few of the Representatives have read it. As usual they will vote on this based on what someone else is saying. Urge your members to read the legislation and ask for opposition to this devastating legislation. Devastating for everyday folks but great for factory farming ops like Monsanto, ADM, Sodexo and Tyson to name a few.

I have no doubt that this legislation was heavily influenced by lobbyists from huge food producers. This legislation is so broad based that technically someone with a little backyard garden could get fined and have their property siezed. It will effect anyone who produces food even if they do not sell but only consume it. It will literally put all independent farmers and food producers out of business due to the huge amounts of money it will take to conform to factory farming methods. If people choose to farm without industry standards such as chemical pesticides and fertilizers they will be subject to a vareity of harassment from this completely new agency that has never before existed. That's right, a whole new government agency is being created just to police food, for our own protection of course.

DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, READ THIS LEGISLATION FOR YOURSELF. The more people who read this legislation the more insight we are going to get and be able to share. Post your observations and insights below. Urge your members to read this legislation and to oppose the passage of this legislation.

Pay special attention to

Section 3 which is the definitions portion of the bill-read in it's entirety. section 103, 206 and 207- read in it's entirety.

Red flags I found and I am sure there are more........ ...

Legally binds state agriculture depts to enforcing federal guidelines effectively taking away the states power to do anything other than being food police for the federal dept. Effectively criminalizes organic farming but doesn't actually use the word organic. Effects anyone growing food even if they are not selling it but consuming it. Effects anyone producing meat of any kind including wild game. Legislation is so broad based that every aspect of growing or producing food can be made illegal. There are no specifics which is bizarre considering how long the legislation is. Section 103 is almost entirely about the administrative aspect of the legislation. It will allow the appointing of officials from the factory farming corporations and lobbyists and classify them as experts and allow them to determine and interpret the legislation. Who do you think they are going to side with? Section 206 defines what will be considered a food production facility and what will be enforced up all food production facilities. The wording is so broad based that a backyard gardener could be fined and more. Section 207 requires that the state's agriculture dept act as the food police and enforce the federal requirements. This takes away the states power and is in violation of the 10th amendment. There are many more but by the time I got this far in the legislation I was so alarmed that I wanted to bring someone's attention to it. (to the one person who reads my blog)

Didn't Stalin nationalize farming methods that enabled his administration to gain control over the food supply? Didn't Stalin use the food to control the people?

Last word...... Legislate religion and enforce gag orders on ministers on what can and can't be said in the pulpit, instituting regulations forcing people to rely soley on the government, control the money and the food. What is that called? It is on the tip of my tongue...... ....

I haven't read any of the Senate's version of the bill as I have been poring thru the House's version. Here is the link and I hope some of you can take a look and post your observations and insights below. One thing I am pretty sure of is that very few if any Senator's have actually read the legislation and when it comes up for a vote they will more than likely take someone else's word on how they should vote. The other thing I am pretty sure about is that the legislation was probably written by lobbyists and industry experts.

S 425 http://thomas. loc.gov/cgi- bin/bdquery/ z?d111:s425:

Things you can do

Contact your members at 202-224-3121 and ask them to oppose HR 875 and S 425. While you are at it ask them if they personally have read the legislation and what their position is? If they have not read the legislation ask them to read it and politely let them know that just because other representitives are not reading the legislation and voting on it does not mean they can do the same. Get in touch with local farmers and food producers by attending a local farmers market and asking them how business is. Attend a local WAPF meeting, this is a good start to learning about what is going on in farming and local & state initiatives . The website is http://www.westonap rice.org/ localchapters/ index.html Check out the Farmers Legal Defense Fund at http://www.ftcldf. org/index. html Find out who sits on your states agriculture and farming committee and contact them with your concerns. Continue to contact your elected officials and let them know your position on legislation and why. Get active at the local and state levels, this is the quickest way to initiate change.

Categories: Health Freedom, Grassroots News, Action Item, US Constitution, Federal Legislation, Current Events, Social Issues, State Legislation, Economy, CongressTags:

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March 14, 2009

thanks joy

Oh my! to finish reading this bill could take hours, perhaps that is why our reps dont read them through.

I remember reading something that Mike said about the scare of samonella in spinach, there is no such thing, and that the peppers and tomatoes were not contaminated, vegies dont get this contamination, so I thought I read that, and said that because of this they would try to manipulate the way little farmers sell their food, strickter laws ect.

Actually what should be stated is that the little farmers or the guys that show up at the farmers markets should not be subjected to scruitny by the FDA..

what does need to be implimented is for the big corps that give money to the FDA under the table so that they look away from potential harzards and food poisioning, like Burger King and other fast food places are breeding grounds for samonella and other stomach related incidents.

As well as food being processed at another plant like china and then put together with more ingredients in the USA. How do we know what went on in China in the plants, EX: melamine in chocolates and formula for our babies. and the incident from peanut butter that contaminated all types of food like Keebler peanut butter crackers. You are only safe when you do not purchase processed foods.. Consumer beware...

Michele

From: Joyce Hudson <bjoyfuliglou (DOT) com>Subject: [ ] One interpretation of HR 875 Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 5:10 PM

If this is true. Everyone should be contacting their Representatives and screaming.

HR 875 The food police, criminalizing organic farming and the backyard gardener, and violation of the 10th amendment

Posted by Lydia on 03/06/09 03:36 AM [Older: Is this an opportunity to push the Indiana Honest Money act? ]

HR 875 http://thomas. loc.gov/cgi- bin/query/ F?c111:1: ./temp/~c1112RD9 bb:e11439:

This bill is sitting in committee and I am not sure when it is going to hit the floor. One thing I do know is that very few of the Representatives have read it. As usual they will vote on this based on what someone else is saying. Urge your members to read the legislation and ask for opposition to this devastating legislation. Devastating for everyday folks but great for factory farming ops like Monsanto, ADM, Sodexo and Tyson to name a few.

I have no doubt that this legislation was heavily influenced by lobbyists from huge food producers. This legislation is so broad based that technically someone with a little backyard garden could get fined and have their property siezed. It will effect anyone who produces food even if they do not sell but only consume it. It will literally put all independent farmers and food producers out of business due to the huge amounts of money it will take to conform to factory farming methods. If people choose to farm without industry standards such as chemical pesticides and fertilizers they will be subject to a vareity of harassment from this completely new agency that has never before existed. That's right, a whole new government agency is being created just to police food, for our own protection of course.

DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, READ THIS LEGISLATION FOR YOURSELF. The more people who read this legislation the more insight we are going to get and be able to share. Post your observations and insights below. Urge your members to read this legislation and to oppose the passage of this legislation.

Pay special attention to

Section 3 which is the definitions portion of the bill-read in it's entirety. section 103, 206 and 207- read in it's entirety.

Red flags I found and I am sure there are more........ ...

Legally binds state agriculture depts to enforcing federal guidelines effectively taking away the states power to do anything other than being food police for the federal dept. Effectively criminalizes organic farming but doesn't actually use the word organic. Effects anyone growing food even if they are not selling it but consuming it. Effects anyone producing meat of any kind including wild game. Legislation is so broad based that every aspect of growing or producing food can be made illegal. There are no specifics which is bizarre considering how long the legislation is. Section 103 is almost entirely about the administrative aspect of the legislation. It will allow the appointing of officials from the factory farming corporations and lobbyists and classify them as experts and allow them to determine and interpret the legislation. Who do you think they are going to side with? Section 206 defines what will be considered a food production facility and what will be enforced up all food production facilities. The wording is so broad based that a backyard gardener could be fined and more. Section 207 requires that the state's agriculture dept act as the food police and enforce the federal requirements. This takes away the states power and is in violation of the 10th amendment. There are many more but by the time I got this far in the legislation I was so alarmed that I wanted to bring someone's attention to it. (to the one person who reads my blog)

Didn't Stalin nationalize farming methods that enabled his administration to gain control over the food supply? Didn't Stalin use the food to control the people?

Last word...... Legislate religion and enforce gag orders on ministers on what can and can't be said in the pulpit, instituting regulations forcing people to rely soley on the government, control the money and the food. What is that called? It is on the tip of my tongue...... ....

I haven't read any of the Senate's version of the bill as I have been poring thru the House's version. Here is the link and I hope some of you can take a look and post your observations and insights below. One thing I am pretty sure of is that very few if any Senator's have actually read the legislation and when it comes up for a vote they will more than likely take someone else's word on how they should vote. The other thing I am pretty sure about is that the legislation was probably written by lobbyists and industry experts.

S 425 http://thomas. loc.gov/cgi- bin/bdquery/ z?d111:s425:

Things you can do

Contact your members at 202-224-3121 and ask them to oppose HR 875 and S 425. While you are at it ask them if they personally have read the legislation and what their position is? If they have not read the legislation ask them to read it and politely let them know that just because other representitives are not reading the legislation and voting on it does not mean they can do the same. Get in touch with local farmers and food producers by attending a local farmers market and asking them how business is. Attend a local WAPF meeting, this is a good start to learning about what is going on in farming and local & state initiatives . The website is http://www.westonap rice.org/ localchapters/ index.html Check out the Farmers Legal Defense Fund at http://www.ftcldf. org/index. html Find out who sits on your states agriculture and farming committee and contact them with your concerns. Continue to contact your elected officials and let them know your position on legislation and why. Get active at the local and state levels, this is the quickest way to initiate change.

Categories: Health Freedom, Grassroots News, Action Item, US Constitution, Federal Legislation, Current Events, Social Issues, State Legislation, Economy, CongressTags:

"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."â€” Jefferson

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March 14, 2009

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I agree. It's like the gun control. Only 25% of crimes has guns involved. They are twisting the 2nd amendment. Criminals can always gets guns, so they want to make it unaffordable to buy ammunition. Now I don't hunt, but I understand the necessity of thinning herds out, so they don't starve in the winter. If people want a gun in their homes (hidden from children) for protection, they should have the right. This issue pertains to our well being.