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Hi , As to the oozing that varies in all of us. I know Dee told me it

could last for two months, and mine did. Others I know of didn't have a problem

for long at all. It is like some never had to have Dr. K put a Q-tip in

them, yet with me he put five or six at a time when I went in. So I had a lot

of

problems with the oozing. Don't worry, it will stop when you are healed. It

just takes time and we all heal differently. You will heal and it is all

normal. No oozing to months of oozing is all within the norms. I healed up very

nicely, and so I know that it doesn't mean a thing, just that your body has its

own way of healing. Relax and enjoy the new body that is coming. And it is

coming. Wear whatever you feel comfortable wearing. There is no time that you

have to do anything. Just what you want and how you feel. Some love to lounge

around, others are up and on the go. I was so happy to be able to breathe

and walk I was on the go. As to what to eat, again your body will tell you.

Always remember to eat the protein first and make that the main part of your

meal. Then go for vegetables. Try to stay away from junk foods. The chips,

pastries, and that type of food. Train your mouth and mind to love the protein

foods. You have that opportunity right now while you are in the early stages,

as

you can't eat much. So concentrate on only the stuff you know is good for

you. You give your body good stuff and it will give you a good body.

Okay, off my soapbox. I wish you well in your new life. Make the best of it.

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Congrats! As for a typical meal..honestly, it varies from person to

person and also depends how far out you are as what you can eat in the

first 2 months vs the first 6 months, vs the first year vs long term

post-op is a lot different. I'm almost 7 years post-op and other than

trying to make sure I eat protein first..there's nothing I *can't*

eat..just in smaller portions. If I'm *really* craving dessert I save

the rest of my dinner for later, so I have room for some dessert, but

I never feel deprived. Of course, the better habits you maintain, the

more weight you'll lose and the more weight you'll keep off. I don't

drink soda or juice normally as that's a lot of sugar (or in diet's

case, artificial sweetener which tends to make you hungrier) and it

doesn't fill you up...if I want something sweet, I'll eat a piece of

chocolate or whatever, because that at least fills you up. I've also

never been the kind of person to chow down on rice cakes to feel

'full' as I basically want to enjoy my food or I'm fine with skipping

it (which is a bad habit though.) In the first few months after my DS,

I usually had a lot of tuna salad on crackers or egg salad..basically

things that didn't feel 'heavy' on my stomach. I also started eating

steak again about 6 months out because there was more protein in a

smaller portion so it was more 'bang for my buck' so to speak.

Congratulations again!

-Anita in San (no longer in Denver)

11/08/01 Dr K

>

> Hello everyone,

> This from Fall River Mills, CA. I Just want you all to know that

> I made it, no problems and I'm doing great. I can't believe that it has

> been only two weeks today. I've been home since the third of Jan. It

> was a little working in the beginning getting the water and the protein

> down, but I'm doing much better now. I've had no problems getting

> around (only in the house still) I hope to try to get out this weekend,

> but we do have a lot of snow up here. All will come in time. I guess

> it's all up here from now. I am wondering about a few thing that you

> all can help me with. FOOD…. Right now, everything that goes in my

> mouth are water or protein, but what about later on. What do most of

> you eat, Give me one days meal plan. I know one thing I sure can't eat

> much. The other thing I am wondering about is the oozing HOW LONG do we

> ooze for? My surgery site looks great and no smell, but it won't stop

> oozing. My husband is really getting worried. If and one can give me

> some in put on these matters that would be great. I'm hoping to go back

> to work on Tuesday of next week. I just need the oozing to stop. Oh ya,

> when did you get back in to your street clothes. Thank you

>

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Congrats on a successful surgery. It sounds like your recovery is

moving right along. I know the oozing is frustrating but believe me

you don't want it to heal up and stop tooooo soon for 'YOUR' body. If

it does heal up too fast and the ooze has no place to go it will just

build up inside and eventually have to be opened (thus the q-tip trick)

to allow the draining to continue. Be patient. Use a mini-pad between

you and your binder.

As your diet progresses you will be able to eat more at a time and that

will allow for a larger selection of foods. Keep in mind.

Don't drink your calories.

Stay hydrated

Eat your protein

then if there is room add veggies

then Carbs, and whole fruits last. (eat whole fruit rather than drink

juice)

Limit fats...for bathroom issues...we each have a different tolerance

level for fats and it can change over time.

By the time you are a couple months out you should be able to eat your

protein and " pick " at some kind of side dish.

Hugs

Jo

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> then if there is room add veggies

> then Carbs, and whole fruits last.

oops...it sounds like I'm saying to eat Carbs before adding Fruits.

Carbs and Fruit are both basically sugar to the body and I'm putting

them on an even playing field. A baked potato, bread or an

orange...all easily converted by the body to glucose...sugar. If you

have room in your tummy AFTER Water, protein and veggies...enjoy a few

bites of potato or an apple for dessert.

You will be surprised looking back how fast that first year actually

passes.

Hugs

Jo

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, we have a friend in common, Marla Bock. She had told me quite some

time ago about you going to have the DS, and when. I wish I felt up to coming

down while you are in the hospital, and I may by then, but it is a two hour

drive, one way for me, and at this time I still have the woundvac on, so I am

not sure if I will be able to come or not. I have to be down to see Dr. K on

the 22nd and if you let me know what motel you are in I may be able to stop by

for a little bit then though. We can talk between now and then. Of course you

will probably be in the docs office that day getting tubes pulled and I will

get to see you anyway. We will see.

Marla and I are both excited for you. We are looking forward to you keeping

us up on your progress. We have both came a long way and know you can too. We

know you will.

Pearl

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How good to hear that you are doing great two weeks after your DS!

Yay! I leave Sunday afternoon for Delano and will have mine done on

Tuesday. I'm really excited and can't wait to get started on my NEW

HEALTHIER me! It's so good to hear from people like you who have

just gone through the surgery and have positive things to say

already. It really boosts my confidence that I can DO THIS. I hope

any group members in Delano while I'm there will come by and say

hello. Being from out of state, I won't have many opportunities

to " meet and greet " members of this group, so I'm looking forward to

seeing some of you at DRMC. Wish me luck!!!

Bellingham, WA

>

> Hello everyone,

> This from Fall River Mills, CA. I Just want you all to know

that

> I made it, no problems and I'm doing great.

>

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Best of luck to you, as you go through your surgery. Dr. K is truly a healing

genius, and you are in good hands with him. May you be blessed with ease and joy

during your recovery.

Have faith. You must think you are not forgotten, that something is happening

for you. That we hold you in the palm of our hand, will not falter, nor will we

ever let you go.

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There you are! Ive been looking for any new messages from you. I'm

glad to hear you're doing well. Street clothes will come. I'm wearing

jeans (my favorite ones that were too small, yay!), and shirts. I've

been anxious to know how you fared. Fitting in the protein and water

at first is difficult. It gets easier. I bought some Isopure flavored

waters (at $4.19 ea. - ouch), but they have 40g of protein in 20 oz.

of water, no carbs or sugar. I use them when I can't get in enough

protein. I have a hard time getting in enough fluid no matter how

much I drink. I'm just a little dehydrated. Drop me a line, I look

forward to hearing from you!

Heidi in Red Bluff

>

> Hello everyone,

> This from Fall River Mills, CA. I Just want you all to know

that

> I made it, no problems and I'm doing great. I can't believe that it

has

> been only two weeks today. I've been home since the third of Jan.

It

> was a little working in the beginning getting the water and the

protein

> down, but I'm doing much better now. I've had no problems getting

> around (only in the house still) I hope to try to get out this

weekend,

> but we do have a lot of snow up here. All will come in time. I

guess

> it's all up here from now. I am wondering about a few thing that

you

> all can help me with. FOOD…. Right now, everything that goes in my

> mouth are water or protein, but what about later on. What do most

of

> you eat, Give me one days meal plan. I know one thing I sure can't

eat

> much. The other thing I am wondering about is the oozing HOW LONG

do we

> ooze for? My surgery site looks great and no smell, but it won't

stop

> oozing. My husband is really getting worried. If and one can give

me

> some in put on these matters that would be great. I'm hoping to go

back

> to work on Tuesday of next week. I just need the oozing to stop. Oh

ya,

> when did you get back in to your street clothes. Thank you

>

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At first you are drinking your calories to a certain point. Having a

high protein shake for breakfast is a great way to get 25-30g of

protein and it goes down easily. I haven't started on veggies much

yet. The book says to avoid certain ones, and it includes most, so

I'm waiting til I'm 2 months out. I've added some rice (brown) or

potatoes to some of my meals because otherwise I had VERY watery

stools. The rice once a day has really helped. I only have like 2-3

tablespoons. I have tuna or salmon for lunch and some chicken or

morning star " chicken " product for dinner with rice. And no fluid for

30 min. before and after a meal. I've made myself full by having just

a sip of fluid after eating. I really don't like feeling full and I

absolutely don't want to stretch my stomach, so I'd eat very slowly

and no fluid. I hope this helps!

Heidi

>

> > then if there is room add veggies

> > then Carbs, and whole fruits last.

>

>

> oops...it sounds like I'm saying to eat Carbs before adding

Fruits.

> Carbs and Fruit are both basically sugar to the body and I'm

putting

> them on an even playing field. A baked potato, bread or an

> orange...all easily converted by the body to glucose...sugar. If

you

> have room in your tummy AFTER Water, protein and veggies...enjoy a

few

> bites of potato or an apple for dessert.

>

> You will be surprised looking back how fast that first year

actually

> passes.

>

> Hugs

> Jo

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Heidi,

Thank you so much, it's nice to here from you. I'm so glad that I was able to

meet you at the B/W in Delano. You made me feel so at ease, You looked great you

are truly amazing. Things are still going good for you? Also thanks for all the

stuff. What I'm trying to do is eat most of my protein. Dr K only took 1/2 of my

tummy and I have 100 cm C/C. I've been able to eat 3 meals a day, small ones but

I get the protein in. I'm eating pretty much any that has protein in it. I've

have had no problems, I just don't want to move to fast. The paper work said not

to eat beef do you know why? Please keep in touch.

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Sat, 12 Jan 2008 05:24:26 +0000Subject: Re: I made

it.....

At first you are drinking your calories to a certain point. Having a high

protein shake for breakfast is a great way to get 25-30g of protein and it goes

down easily. I haven't started on veggies much yet. The book says to avoid

certain ones, and it includes most, so I'm waiting til I'm 2 months out. I've

added some rice (brown) or potatoes to some of my meals because otherwise I had

VERY watery stools. The rice once a day has really helped. I only have like 2-3

tablespoons. I have tuna or salmon for lunch and some chicken or morning star

" chicken " product for dinner with rice. And no fluid for 30 min. before and

after a meal. I've made myself full by having just a sip of fluid after eating.

I really don't like feeling full and I absolutely don't want to stretch my

stomach, so I'd eat very slowly and no fluid. I hope this helps!Heidi>> > then if

there is room add veggies> > then Carbs, and whole fruits last. > > > oops...it

sounds like I'm saying to eat Carbs before adding Fruits. > Carbs and Fruit are

both basically sugar to the body and I'm putting > them on an even playing

field. A baked potato, bread or an > orange...all easily converted by the body

to glucose...sugar. If you > have room in your tummy AFTER Water, protein and

veggies...enjoy a few > bites of potato or an apple for dessert.> > You will be

surprised looking back how fast that first year actually > passes.> > Hugs> Jo>

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I'm not sure if there's a medical reason for it, but I know most

people have trouble eating beef at first because it tends to 'sit

heavy' on your stomach. I think I was 5 months or so out, until I

could handle beef and until then I ate food that didn't seem so heavy

like tuna fish, egg salad, chicken, etc. What people can tolerate and

when is very individual, but I'd probably stick with the things that

are lighter on the stomach and easier to digest at first. You also

need to make sure you listen to your body because your taste buds tend

to change a little and you may not like something that you loved

before, so I also recommend adding things back one at a time.

*hugs*

Anita

>

>

> Heidi,

>

problems, I just don't want to move to fast. The paper work said not

to eat beef do you know why? Please keep in touch.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> At first you are drinking your calories to a certain point. Having a

> high protein shake for breakfast is a great way to get 25-30g of

> protein and it goes down easily.

============================

Heidi

You are absolutely Correct. Drinking calories in the form of a protein

shake is perfectly ok. I guess I need to be more specific. Basically

don't drink sugar laden drinks...even juice.

It sounds like you are doing wonderfully.

Hugs

Jo

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Thanks Jo, I appreciate it. I think I'm doing ok. I miss juice,

especiaaly right now since I'm sick. :(

Heidi

You are absolutely Correct. Drinking calories in the form of a protein

> shake is perfectly ok. I guess I need to be more specific. Basically

> don't drink sugar laden drinks...even juice.

>

> It sounds like you are doing wonderfully.

>

> Hugs

> Jo

>

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> Thanks Jo, I appreciate it. I think I'm doing ok. I miss juice,

> especiaaly right now since I'm sick. :(

> ==============================

Heidi

Then break the rules and drink some juice. Just don't drink glasses

and glasses of it. What you are going to find is the DS eventually

allows for a fairly normal diet. Which includes a bit of sweets. The

rules apply to allow MAX. weightloss. " A " glass of juice every once in

a while (or during a cold) won't have a huge impact on the outcome. A

big glass of juice DAILY can have an impact. MODERATION is Key. It's

like, Have Cake on your Birthday...just don't have Cake everyday! Or

have 3 oz. of juice not 8.

Hope the cold passes fast.

Hugs

Jo

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