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Vicki,

Count your weight back one lb at a time: 154, 153, etc to find out

where you become a 24 BMI. That is where you will be " normal " weight.

For example, for me it is 129. If I am 130 or above, that is 25

or " over weight " . At least, until I get to 26! lol

Marta

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I did that and its like 140 something which would be too thin for me. I dont

want to look sickly and for me, that weight would not look good. I can send you

a recent shot of me, or to a bunch of you guys to see what you think. I always

need an honest opinion and not everyone out there will give it. I know you guys

will be brutually honest...........lol

V-

mjs93311 wrote:

Vicki,

Count your weight back one lb at a time: 154, 153, etc to find out

where you become a 24 BMI. That is where you will be " normal " weight.

For example, for me it is 129. If I am 130 or above, that is 25

or " over weight " . At least, until I get to 26! lol

Marta

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Vicki

The BMI standards are a bit arbitrary. The reason a bmi of 25 trips

into the overweight category is because it has been determined that

Health risks " can " begin at that slight level of extra weight.

Now...take a deep breath. You are a DS patient! Dr. K says we reap

the benefit of a lower Bmi even when we don't reach the under 25

bmi. You are right...your weight is just fine. (I've seen the

pictures). We have to keep in mind that carrying the extra weight

for years has caused some body changes...like bones weighing more,

organs enlarge as we enlarged, skin mass is more and skin weighs

alot! For some of us a BMI of under 25 would be toooooo thin and

unhealthy.

Dr. K has stated repeatedly over the years that we are better off

weighing a bit too much than being underweight.

You are healthy, Active, no diabetes, no high cholesterol....and a

size 10! FABULOUS doll...you have made it HAPPEN, YOU ROCK!

Hugs

Jo

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Yes- the calculator tends to be misleading but unfortunately most of us are a

slave to numbers. I remember Dr. K saying that his BMI showed him being

overweight. I was floored after hearing that our slim and trim Dr. K was

considered overweight by BMI standards..................lol

So thank you for your kind words- you are so sweet. Can you come live with me

so you can always say these things to me??????????? lol. does all the time

but it helps to hear from some brutally honest DS'ers.

I sitll love you even though you weigh less and wear a size 6. I usually dont

like people like you.....................KIDDING.

Love and hugs-

Vicki

Jo wrote:

Vicki

The BMI standards are a bit arbitrary. The reason a bmi of 25 trips

into the overweight category is because it has been determined that

Health risks " can " begin at that slight level of extra weight.

Now...take a deep breath. You are a DS patient! Dr. K says we reap

the benefit of a lower Bmi even when we don't reach the under 25

bmi. You are right...your weight is just fine. (I've seen the

pictures). We have to keep in mind that carrying the extra weight

for years has caused some body changes...like bones weighing more,

organs enlarge as we enlarged, skin mass is more and skin weighs

alot! For some of us a BMI of under 25 would be toooooo thin and

unhealthy.

Dr. K has stated repeatedly over the years that we are better off

weighing a bit too much than being underweight.

You are healthy, Active, no diabetes, no high cholesterol....and a

size 10! FABULOUS doll...you have made it HAPPEN, YOU ROCK!

Hugs

Jo

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I am healthy otherwise, so their scale of what is a healthy BMI

> and saying I am obese can take a flying leap.

> Pearl

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Pearl

A bmi of 26 is NOT " obese " ...it is simply " overweight " . The BMI

chart has flaws. It does not take into account age, sex, activity

level...what if some of that weight is because you are all muscled

up??? It's just a tool to start determining health and does not look

at the individual person.

There has been more talk recently of using a person's waist

circumference to determine health risk due to weight. Here is a cut

and paste from a heart, lung and Blood institute site...as you can

see many of the problems that increased weight brings on is taken

care of with the DS.....

***********

Waist Circumference

Determine your waist circumference by placing a measuring tape snugly

around your waist. It is a good indicator of your abdominal fat which

is another predictor of your risk for developing risk factors for

heart disease and other diseases. This risk increases with a waist

measurement of over 40 inches in men and over 35 inches in women

The table, Risks of Obesity-Associated Diseases by BMI and Waist

Circumference, provides you with an idea of whether your BMI combined

with your waist circumference increases your risk for developing

obesity associated diseases or conditions.

3. Other Risk Factors

Besides being overweight or obese, there are additional risk factors

to consider.

RISK FACTORS

high blood pressure (hypertension)

high LDL-cholesterol ( " bad " cholesterol)

low HDL-cholesterol ( " good " cholesterol)

high triglycerides

high blood glucose (sugar)

family history of premature heart disease

physical inactivity

cigarette smoking

4. Assessment

For people who are considered obese (BMI greater than or equal to 30)

or those who are overweight (BMI of 25 to 29.9) and have two or more

risk factors, the guidelines recommend weight loss. Even a small

weight loss (just 10 percent of your current weight) will help to

lower your risk of developing diseases associated with obesity.

Patients who are overweight, do not have a high waist measurement,

and have less than 2 risk factors may need to prevent further weight

gain rather than lose weight.

Talk to your doctor to see if you are at an increased risk and if you

should lose weight. Your doctor will evaluate your BMI, waist

measurement, and others risk factors for heart disease. People who

are overweight or obese have a greater chance of developing high

blood pressure, high blood cholesterol or other lipid disorders, type

2 diabetes, heart disease, stroke, and certain cancers, and even a

small weight loss (just 10 percent of your current weight) will help

to lower your risk of developing those diseases.

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Pearl,

I took a health class and we learned about BMI. I

used to have a bmi of 26 but now it is more like a 28.

The professor was a health nut who was in great

shape. She rode her bike every where and she was this

petite woman who didn't seem to have an ounce of fat

on her. I was shocked when she said her bmi was 26.

My point is, she was very thin. To have her bmi say

she was overweight was ridiculous. If you are happy

with where you are at, don't worry about the bmi. My

bmi was about a 50. So, to have a bmi of 28 is a huge

accomplishment for me. I have no diabetes and no high

cholestrol. I feel great.

--- Pearlmae@... wrote:

> I just went to Dr. K's site and did a BMI check on

> what I was before surgery

> and now. My original BMI was 54, it is now 26. I

> would need to lose another

> 12 pounds to get down to 24. I am not sure what is

> considered " normal " , but I

> am quite happy where I am. I have lost 170 pounds,

> down from 333 to 163.

> Good enough. Surgery worked its wonders for me. I

> have my almost flat tummy, I

> still have a little swelling where I have some

> healing going on, but sure looks

> good to me. I am healthy otherwise, so their scale

> of what is a healthy BMI

> and saying I am obese can take a flying leap.

> Pearl

>

>

>

> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways

> to stay in shape.

>

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> I sitll love you even though you weigh less and wear a size 6. I

usually dont like people like you.....................KIDDING.

===================

Hey Sweet cheeks...a size 6 was a few years ago and my bottom weight.

I have been a size 8-10 for a long long time now. More of me to love!

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Jo

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Pearl,

I completely agree. To me, as a post-op and I would think to most

pre-ops..being healthy and feeling good about yourself is more

important (or should be) than a number on a chart or calculator. I may

curse the damn thing for calling me obese, but honestly, while I'd

love to lose another 10-20lbs, I think I'd look anorexic at the weight

where I'd be considered 'normal' by most of those charts.

*hugs*

Anita in (San )

11/08/01 DS

327lbs -> 183lbs (I'd love to be 163, but I think I'd either get more

PS or actually start working out more regularly! Hee.)

Size 26/28 -> Size 14/16

I am not sure what is considered " normal " , but I

> am quite happy where I am. I have lost 170 pounds, down from 333 to

163.

> Good enough. Surgery worked its wonders for me. I have my almost

flat tummy, I

> still have a little swelling where I have some healing going on, but

sure looks

> good to me. I am healthy otherwise, so their scale of what is a

healthy BMI

> and saying I am obese can take a flying leap.

> Pearl

>

>

>

> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

>

>

>

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Thats exactly it. If I got down to a normal BMI according to the calculator, I

would look sickly and older. Being too thin ages you. My problem is being a

slave to the scale. It is like an obsession which is how a lot of people have

gotten eating disorders in this world. Thank God I dont like to starve myself or

make myself sick because I dont ever want to be in that position. I just want to

be at a good weight and a few more pounds will put me there. I will not go to

140 though which is where I should be according to the BMI calculator. I am

between 156-160 and if I could get to 153-155 and not go over it, I would be

happy. If not, I am close enough and working out has resulted in me losing

inches so the scale may not move anymore. I just recently lost 19 pounds by

excercising and changing my habits and now its at a halt. Maybe my body is just

happy this way. I allow myself one day a week where i eat everything I want. I

immediaitely gain 2 pounds and it takes days to get

it off again. Thats where I get angry...........lol

VIcki

rowanceleste wrote:

Pearl,

I completely agree. To me, as a post-op and I would think to most

pre-ops..being healthy and feeling good about yourself is more

important (or should be) than a number on a chart or calculator. I may

curse the damn thing for calling me obese, but honestly, while I'd

love to lose another 10-20lbs, I think I'd look anorexic at the weight

where I'd be considered 'normal' by most of those charts.

*hugs*

Anita in (San )

11/08/01 DS

327lbs -> 183lbs (I'd love to be 163, but I think I'd either get more

PS or actually start working out more regularly! Hee.)

Size 26/28 -> Size 14/16

I am not sure what is considered " normal " , but I

> am quite happy where I am. I have lost 170 pounds, down from 333 to

163.

> Good enough. Surgery worked its wonders for me. I have my almost

flat tummy, I

> still have a little swelling where I have some healing going on, but

sure looks

> good to me. I am healthy otherwise, so their scale of what is a

healthy BMI

> and saying I am obese can take a flying leap.

> Pearl

>

>

>

> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

>

>

>

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