Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 http://www.lymebook.com/mms-miracle-mineral-lyme-disease-book-dvd --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@...> wrote: > > MMS - Miracle Mineral Supplement - Lyme Disease > Rumor has it that Humble believes that it's necessary for chronic Lyme sufferers to take sodium chlorite for approximately one year in order to achieve good results. > www.lymebook.com/mms-miracle-mineral-lyme-disease-book-dvd > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Well, as much as I like Humble and take his products, I don't think I will be taking MMS or anything for that matter for 1 year. The problem is that Lyme is able to morph from spirochette to cyst to l-form to bio-film (?), etc. There's a great video showing a lyme spirochette being washed with penicilin. Within less than 30 seconds the sprio. morphs into a cyst. It doesn't die. The trick with Lyme, is to kill it in layers, coaxing it out of it's unkillable forms and then kill it - layer by layer.The sad thing is, no one has research showing which substances cause Lyme to morph. We know abx's do, but I think that's the extent of the list. My opinion is that pulsing MMS1/2 would be better. In addition to other protocols. Best to you,On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 6:49 AM, healinghope <mfrreman@...> wrote: MMS - Miracle Mineral Supplement - Lyme Disease Rumor has it that Humble believes that it's necessary for chronic Lyme sufferers to take sodium chlorite for approximately one year in order to achieve good results. www.lymebook.com/mms-miracle-mineral-lyme-disease-book-dvd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 I hope you can win chronic lymes within a year with any product. That has not been my situation. I have taken over a year of very strong antibiotics through my private doctor and infectious disease doctor. Tried herbs through a licensed herbalist for over 6 months,I have now been on MMS1 for over a year, since Nov of 2008 and continue with a maintenance dose. My life is returning slowly. I found this statement by Humble curious because for me the time frame to feel substantial healing is a year. Best to you and I truly hope you can beat this blood barrier busting spirochete. MMS was the only spirochete buster I have found. > > > > > > > MMS - Miracle Mineral Supplement - Lyme Disease > > Rumor has it that Humble believes that it's necessary for chronic Lyme > > sufferers to take sodium chlorite for approximately one year in order to > > achieve good results. > > www.lymebook.com/mms-miracle-mineral-lyme-disease-book-dvd > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 I hate having Lyme, I never explain myself well. I hope you can win chronic lymes within a year with any product. I don't think you can cure Lyme in a year. Wait, chronic Lyme. I'm thinking three years for many, but 5 years for some. There is quite a bit of evidence that abx's will kill some of the lyme, but then the spiros get smart and turn into cysts. When they come out of cyst form - one cyst will produce more than one spiro. Beyond the CDC, many folks believe that abx will kill a little lyme, but suppresses a bunch of it, sending it even deeper and harder to reach. Once you go off the abx, the lyme comes raging back. That has not been my situation. I have taken over a year of very strong antibiotics through my private doctor and infectious disease doctor. Tried herbs through a licensed herbalist for over 6 months,I have now been on MMS1 for over a year, since Nov of 2008 and continue with a maintenance dose. My life is returning slowly. I found this statement by Humble curious because for me the time frame to feel substantial healing is a year. Best to you and I truly hope you can beat this blood barrier busting spirochete. MMS was the only spirochete buster I have found. I think a person may be able to cure lyme with MMS1/2, I just think it would be better to error on the side of caution since we don't know if MMS sends spiros into cysts (or l-form). If lyme can out smart it, then I'm thinking it would be wise to take a break for a week or more, coax some cysts back into spiros and hit them again with the MMS. Rosner talks a lot about pulsing treatment to keep one step ahead of the bugs in his books. I don't agree 100% with everything he says, but he's got great info. In a perfect world, someone would take these spiros - put them under a microscope and expose them to various substances. Then we'd know if it kills them and/OR sends them into cysts. I don't think we have time to wait for that to happen. So far the only microscope work I've seen on spiros has been rifing and penicilin. It's trial and error for all of us. All we can do is give each other feed back.Best to you, > > > > > > > MMS - Miracle Mineral Supplement - Lyme Disease > > Rumor has it that Humble believes that it's necessary for chronic Lyme > > sufferers to take sodium chlorite for approximately one year in order to > > achieve good results. > > www.lymebook.com/mms-miracle-mineral-lyme-disease-book-dvd > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 I hate having lyme as well. There are many things that are yet understood or even discovered. Well, to complicate matters more, there is also another disease called Babesia that many people who have Lyme also have, and it took me quite awhile to figure out that this was a separate thing, and what names it goes by. Babesia is also called Babesiosis, Piroplasmosis (piroplasms are a type of protozoan) and a shortened nickname is Babs. Although this is a separate bug altogether (a protozoan), many people who are infected with Lyme Disease also have a coinfection of Babesia. A coinfection is another separate infection that co-exists along with Lyme. It is very common for ticks to carry more than one disease, and many people with Lyme have one or more coinfections of other diseases. And another B word that can be confused with Lyme is Bartonella, which is another coinfection that is separate from Lyme. Bartonella is also known as " cat scratch fever. " A third common coinfection is Ehrlichiosis (also Ehrlichia). There is also a lot of talk about Mycoplasmas. There are several different strains of this bacteria, and the gene sequence of one of them has been patented by the US Army. Mycoplasmas have been implicated as a possible cause or contributing factor in Gulf War Syndrome. It is believed that there are many bacterial infections that are as yet still unidentified. Many people believe that the ticks that carry Lyme commonly carry multiple strains of many different bacteria, so if you are infected with Lyme then you likely have others as well, which can complicate treatment. This germ is similar to malaria that is perhaps why the MMS is effective treatment for me. Malaria is a protozoal disease that is in your system forever once you are infected. Streptococcus (strep throat) is an example of a common bacteria that will stay in your system. So while you can't say that you will every be completely rid of Lyme, you can be " cured " in the same sense that you can be cured of chicken pox, malaria and other diseases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MMS - Miracle Mineral Supplement - Lyme Disease > > > > Rumor has it that Humble believes that it's necessary for chronic Lyme > > > > sufferers to take sodium chlorite for approximately one year in order > > to > > > > achieve good results. > > > > www.lymebook.com/mms-miracle-mineral-lyme-disease-book-dvd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Yeah, I tested positive for most of the co-infections through Quest. I would imagine that I would have tested positive for all of them through Igenex. Babesia (which is one of the most difficult for Quest to catch, caught it in me - and that was after they dilute the blood 600 times! I must have been screamin' positive!) :-) Since babesia is in the malaria family, I am very hopeful MMS1/2 will take care of it. I'm also hoping MMS1/2 will take care of several (if not all) of the co-infect. I'm just going about it a little different protocol than you, but I also have a coil machine. So, after my three weeks of MMS1/2 I'll go back to coiling for three weeks and MMS1/2 for a week. I think I probably have a paranoid type of fear about sending Lyme into cyst and driving it deeper. That's why I don't want to do anything everyday. Please don't hear this as jugding you. I wish you well in every way. I'm anxious to see how you do. This is how we learn (since the research labs aren't helping us.) One person doing one protocol, someone doing something else. Let's keep everyone posted as the years go on.On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:29 AM, healinghope <mfrreman@...> wrote: I hate having lyme as well. There are many things that are yet understood or even discovered. Well, to complicate matters more, there is also another disease called Babesia that many people who have Lyme also have, and it took me quite awhile to figure out that this was a separate thing, and what names it goes by. Babesia is also called Babesiosis, Piroplasmosis (piroplasms are a type of protozoan) and a shortened nickname is Babs. Although this is a separate bug altogether (a protozoan), many people who are infected with Lyme Disease also have a coinfection of Babesia. A coinfection is another separate infection that co-exists along with Lyme. It is very common for ticks to carry more than one disease, and many people with Lyme have one or more coinfections of other diseases. And another B word that can be confused with Lyme is Bartonella, which is another coinfection that is separate from Lyme. Bartonella is also known as " cat scratch fever. " A third common coinfection is Ehrlichiosis (also Ehrlichia). There is also a lot of talk about Mycoplasmas. There are several different strains of this bacteria, and the gene sequence of one of them has been patented by the US Army. Mycoplasmas have been implicated as a possible cause or contributing factor in Gulf War Syndrome. It is believed that there are many bacterial infections that are as yet still unidentified. Many people believe that the ticks that carry Lyme commonly carry multiple strains of many different bacteria, so if you are infected with Lyme then you likely have others as well, which can complicate treatment. This germ is similar to malaria that is perhaps why the MMS is effective treatment for me. Malaria is a protozoal disease that is in your system forever once you are infected. Streptococcus (strep throat) is an example of a common bacteria that will stay in your system. So while you can't say that you will every be completely rid of Lyme, you can be " cured " in the same sense that you can be cured of chicken pox, malaria and other diseases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MMS - Miracle Mineral Supplement - Lyme Disease > > > > Rumor has it that Humble believes that it's necessary for chronic Lyme > > > > sufferers to take sodium chlorite for approximately one year in order > > to > > > > achieve good results. > > > > www.lymebook.com/mms-miracle-mineral-lyme-disease-book-dvd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 One of the things that should be considered by all is the close relation of syphilis and lyme, and also there is no true " cure " for lyme. I have often wondered if mms would be beneficial for bacteria resistant syphilis? Over 200,000 people in the usa are misdiagnosed or undiagnosed every year is the scientific believe with lyme disease. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/17/eveningnews/main2940639.shtml Putting that in perspective and also once infected with lyme we should not give blood or organs so what about the blood supply? This could have devastating effects on our society I think. Lyme is the next tsunami I think and ignored by the CDC. http://www.utsouthwestern.edu/utsw/cda/dept131456/files/158983.html V. Norgard, Ph.D. Professor and Chair of Microbiology Office: 214-648-5900 Fax: 214-648-5905 Email: michael.norgard@... Syphilis and Lyme disease are chronic, complex infections caused by the spirochetal bacteria Treponema pallidum and Borrelia burgdorferi, respectively. While syphilis and Lyme disease are transmitted differently (i.e., sexually or through the bite of a tick), they share many common features. These include penetration of the organism through skin, dissemination via the bloodstream, and immune evasion leading to chronic infection. Acute and chronic inflammatory responses are associated with both diseases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MMS - Miracle Mineral Supplement - Lyme Disease > > > > > > Rumor has it that Humble believes that it's necessary for chronic > > Lyme > > > > > > sufferers to take sodium chlorite for approximately one year in > > order > > > > to > > > > > > achieve good results. > > > > > > www.lymebook.com/mms-miracle-mineral-lyme-disease-book-dvd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 There is even scientific and psychiatric findings of lyme rage, this also could and has had an effect on our society. http://underourskin.com/blog/?p=148 http://www.wfsb.com/news/18726175/detail.html http://www.truthaboutlymedisease.com/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MMS - Miracle Mineral Supplement - Lyme Disease > > > > > > > Rumor has it that Humble believes that it's necessary for chronic > > > Lyme > > > > > > > sufferers to take sodium chlorite for approximately one year in > > > order > > > > > to > > > > > > > achieve good results. > > > > > > > www.lymebook.com/mms-miracle-mineral-lyme-disease-book-dvd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Ya know, another lymie friend and I were having this save conversation. I spent 20 minutes looking for all the diseases they screen for with 'new' blood. It doesn't include any of our diseases. Even if it did - the tests are too dumbed down. This is criminal. That reminds me, I need to change my license to 'non-organ donor'. I hadn't thought about that. Good point.On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 8:05 PM, healinghope <mfrreman@...> wrote: One of the things that should be considered by all is the close relation of syphilis and lyme, and also there is no true " cure " for lyme. I have often wondered if mms would be beneficial for bacteria resistant syphilis? Over 200,000 people in the usa are misdiagnosed or undiagnosed every year is the scientific believe with lyme disease. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/17/eveningnews/main2940639.shtml Putting that in perspective and also once infected with lyme we should not give blood or organs so what about the blood supply? This could have devastating effects on our society I think. Lyme is the next tsunami I think and ignored by the CDC. http://www.utsouthwestern.edu/utsw/cda/dept131456/files/158983.html V. Norgard, Ph.D. Professor and Chair of Microbiology Office: 214-648-5900 Fax: 214-648-5905 Email: michael.norgard@... Syphilis and Lyme disease are chronic, complex infections caused by the spirochetal bacteria Treponema pallidum and Borrelia burgdorferi, respectively. While syphilis and Lyme disease are transmitted differently (i.e., sexually or through the bite of a tick), they share many common features. These include penetration of the organism through skin, dissemination via the bloodstream, and immune evasion leading to chronic infection. Acute and chronic inflammatory responses are associated with both diseases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MMS - Miracle Mineral Supplement - Lyme Disease > > > > > > Rumor has it that Humble believes that it's necessary for chronic > > Lyme > > > > > > sufferers to take sodium chlorite for approximately one year in > > order > > > > to > > > > > > achieve good results. > > > > > > www.lymebook.com/mms-miracle-mineral-lyme-disease-book-dvd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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