Guest guest Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 Joan, Any time you want information on a topic, there is often a wealth in the 3,000 plus messages already on the listserve. To search these, do this: 1. go to and click on the " Messages " link on the left of the page. 2. type your search topic (e.g. restless leg) into the Search line on the top right of the page. 3. the list of responses (I found 22 just on the first page) can be reviewed; for more than those on the first page, click on " Previous " link at the bottom of the list. Pete VanDeusen Practical Brain Training. 305/251-0337 pvdadp@... Restless Leg Has anyone had success working with restless leg? Any ideas as to which area of the brain might not be functioning correctly to cause these symptoms. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, Joan Ordmandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 Thank you, Restless LegHas anyone had success working with restless leg? Any ideas as to which area of the brain might not be functioning correctlyto cause these symptoms.Any suggestions would be appreciated.Thanks,Joan Ordmandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 remove mercury in mouth,. . sometimes it stops immediately! Restless leg In allopatic medicine they don't know why people are suffering from restless legs and I couldn't find it in the QXCI lexicon, do anyone have a protocol? I think it have a conection to amalgam and some nerval inflammation, I also found inflammation in thyroidea.. any other ideas? Ruth Hälsomedicinska kliniken Human & Hund www.framtidsmedicin.nu Auktioner: Som shopping - fast med spänning Klicka här ............................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 also caffeine products. Restless leg In allopatic medicine they don't know why people are suffering from restless legs and I couldn't find it in the QXCI lexicon, do anyone have a protocol? I think it have a conection to amalgam and some nerval inflammation, I also found inflammation in thyroidea.. any other ideas? Ruth Hälsomedicinska kliniken Human & Hund www.framtidsmedicin.nu Auktioner: Som shopping - fast med spänning Klicka här ............................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Restless legs are one of the markers for allergy. Some of the other relevant markers are below Kelsey PhD QXCI User Manual Author, Advanced Trainer QXCI SCIO Broker www.qxcisynergy.co.uk info@... Tel ++44 121 243 6318 Fax ++44 0870 460 1138 Do you suffer from? a) Undue fatigue ___________________________________________________ Fast beating heart/palpitations ______________________________________ c) Bouts of sweating for no obvious reason during day or night ______________ d) Swellings or puffiness of ankles or fingers ____________________________ e) Restless legs ____________________________________________________ f) Overweight or major fluctuations in weight ____________________________ Current weight ____________________ Height ______________________ g) Food cravings of any sort __________________________________________ h) Headaches _____________________________________________________ i) Feeling particularly bad first thing in the morning ______________________ j) Feeling much worse if you miss a meal ______________________________ Restless leg In allopatic medicine they don't know why people are suffering from restless legs and I couldn't find it in the QXCI lexicon, do anyone have a protocol? I think it have a conection to amalgam and some nerval inflammation, I also found inflammation in thyroidea.. any other ideas? Ruth Hälsomedicinska kliniken Human & Hund www.framtidsmedicin.nu Auktioner: Som shopping - fast med spänning Klicka här ............................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 I am quite new to the QXCI world, I am sure their should be some panel to work on it, but 4 years ago when recovering from cancer, I had some restless legs and found a therapautic essestial oil to help each time within acouple mintues. visharing@... Vi Restless leg In allopatic medicine they don't know why people are suffering from restless legs and I couldn't find it in the QXCI lexicon, do anyone have a protocol? I think it have a conection to amalgam and some nerval inflammation, I also found inflammation in thyroidea.. any other ideas? Ruth Hälsomedicinska kliniken Human & Hund www.framtidsmedicin.nu Auktioner: Som shopping - fast med spänning Klicka här ............................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 I've been told by the KI Developer that using cotton sheets takes care of the restless leg syndrome. They must be 100% cotton. Can't say it works because I don't have it............... Restless leg In allopatic medicine they don't know why people are suffering from restless legs and I couldn't find it in the QXCI lexicon, do anyone have a protocol? I think it have a conection to amalgam and some nerval inflammation, I also found inflammation in thyroidea.. any other ideas? Ruth Hälsomedicinska kliniken Human & Hund www.framtidsmedicin.nu Auktioner: Som shopping - fast med spänning Klicka här ............................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Often, restless legs are due to either poor calcium/magnesium absorption or lack of intake there of. Try the mineral balance and a basic supplement that test well. Carlson's Cod Liver oil will help assimilate it as well if it test as well. Hope this helps. victoria -----Original Message-----From: Medicinkvinnan Ruth [mailto:medicinkvinnan@...]Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 10:46 AMqxci-english Subject: Restless leg In allopatic medicine they don't know why people are suffering from restless legs and I couldn't find it in the QXCI lexicon, do anyone have a protocol? I think it have a conection to amalgam and some nerval inflammation, I also found inflammation in thyroidea.. any other ideas? Ruth Hälsomedicinska kliniken Human & Hund www.framtidsmedicin.nu Auktioner: Som shopping - fast med spänning Klicka här ............................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Hi Ruth, I have had success with CAL/Mag (Ionic Homeopathic form if you can get it), and Vitamin C (the full complex) at 2 to 3 grams per day. Phil Restless leg In allopatic medicine they don't know why people are suffering from restless legs and I couldn't find it in the QXCI lexicon, do anyone have a protocol? I think it have a conection to amalgam and some nerval inflammation, I also found inflammation in thyroidea.. any other ideas? Ruth Hälsomedicinska kliniken Human & Hund www.framtidsmedicin.nu Auktioner: Som shopping - fast med spänning Klicka här ............................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 Yes, I agree get the Mercury Out!!!!!! That will help the most. But until that happens you need to know what will support circulation and the nerves. I myself have found that eating high refined carbohydrates, with high anxiety or cortisol levels seems to be a factor with restless leg syndrome. So don’t eat the garbage foods. Other supplements that seem to help are Folic Acid as little as 400 mcg or up to 5 mg. Don’t take high doses for a long period of time without taking B12 and B complex. EFF a couple of tablespoon which equal to about 16 caps of the same. So I recommend Liquid EFF. Find out your mineral balance. And a new item I have found to help a few people with high anxiety and adrenal issues is the herb Aswaganda or Withania maybe since Holy Basil is also for high cortisol levels this herb may help also. Magnesium and Potassium should be checked for the nerves system. Check for poor circulation. I have found a product called Virox in the health food store also known as Shegoi as a MLM both are the same product. This is a form of a very safe Patented Process that has helped with Neuropathy. I have heard of two people who said that they benefited for that purpose. Re: Restless leg remove mercury in mouth,. . sometimes it stops immediately! Restless leg In allopatic medicine they don't know why people are suffering from restless legs and I couldn't find it in the QXCI lexicon, do anyone have a protocol? I think it have a conection to amalgam and some nerval inflammation, I also found inflammation in thyroidea.. any other ideas? Ruth Hälsomedicinska kliniken Human & Hund www.framtidsmedicin.nu Auktioner: Som shopping - fast med spänning Klicka här ............................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Besides metals I have found relief working in minerals especially calcium, magnesium and zinc (especially the zinc, it seems to be forgotten). Also, work in Spinal in timed therapies in circulation, muscles, nerves and bones. And the biggest helper of all WATER, many of these people are not drinking enough and are simply dehydrated. You can look up 'leg' in the search mode it will bring up all kinds of things (don't forget to look at the low numbers below 60). Yours in Health, Kathy Medicinkvinnan Ruth <medicinkvinnan@...> wrote: In allopatic medicine they don't know why people are suffering from restless legs and I couldn't find it in the QXCI lexicon, do anyone have a protocol? I think it have a conection to amalgam and some nerval inflammation, I also found inflammation in thyroidea.. any other ideas? Ruth Hälsomedicinska kliniken Human & Hund www.framtidsmedicin.nu Auktioner: Som shopping - fast med spänning Klicka här ............................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 I've had good success at training SMR up at C4. restless leg My husband suffers from restless leg syndrome. His TLC assessment showed an large amount of slow wave activity, even more alpha, and considerable hibeta, leaving very little in the 12-18 frequency range. I thought training down the hibeta at T3 & T4 would help his RLS, but tonight during the training, he said he thinks this protocol makes it worse -- and I did observe that his legs got more and more restless. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Donna, I'd try a windowed squash, leaving out 12-18Hz at Cz/A2 and C4/A2 (2 channels), to push down the slow and fast activity and shift amplitude into the frequencies that are very low (including SMR). You might also try C4/P4 12-15Hz up and 2-5 down. Pete > > From: " Donna Creasy " <donnacreasy@...> > Date: 2004/12/04 Sat PM 09:33:27 EST > > Subject: restless leg > > My husband suffers from restless leg syndrome. His TLC assessment showed an large amount of slow wave activity, even more alpha, and considerable hibeta, leaving very little in the 12-18 frequency range. I thought training down the hibeta at T3 & T4 would help his RLS, but tonight during the training, he said he thinks this protocol makes it worse -- and I did observe that his legs got more and more restless. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Sue, I just posted an email in response to an inquiry about cramps and spasms. Restless leg often goes along with that, and the magnesium and B12 as well as avoiding carbs and sugar (especially in the evening) take care of it for me. It's like clockwork now for me. Whenever I have restless leg syndrome, cramps and spasms, I can guarantee that I either had too much carbs and sugar, and that I haven't kept up with the magnesium and B12 supplements. Alisha On 11/1/07, SkiHunt507@... <SkiHunt507@...> wrote: > > This was the first time I had read the restless leg syndrome could be > from > Lyme. Can anyone tell me anymore about this? Also, are B-12 shots covered > by > insurance usually? > My husband (we all have actually) chronic lyme. With Bill it went after > his > heart -- we think maybe we finally have that straightened out. He had 24/7 > > AFib.... He has his seventh heart procedure, an ablation, at Dartmouth > last > week and it looks like this may have worked. But he also has restless leg. > Dr. R is our doc though we haven't had to see him for a couple of years. > Bill had two years of orals for bab & lyme---- > Any natural supplements good for restless leg?? Thanks... > > Sue L > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Hi Sue, In my case insurance does not pay for B-12, but it is VERY cheap. It was only $11.99 I think for a big vial. I hope that it helps you! ia ________________________________> > From: SkiHunt507@...> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:12:23 -0400> Subject: [ ] Restless leg>> This was the first time I had read the restless leg syndrome could be from> Lyme. Can anyone tell me anymore about this? Also, are B-12 shots covered by> insurance usually? _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook – together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971033 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 HELLO I was just reading your post.... B12 shots *easy to do at home) and/or b12 pills and also BANANAS help leg muscles, the potassium... ... it helped my restless legs... and other things like my hands were so bad I could not open a top on any bottles or jars.... nor zip my pants etc... and now OK.... did b12 shots at home, started daily then cut to weekly now every few weeks.... the b12 is not expensive and you can do it yourself.... just get script from doc for year supply and needles, start daily then weekly then monthly.... i would take the shot in my thighs, switching, it is easy... and relief is fast, dont hesitate to try it... best to u, celia **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 I did for a long time before I got thyroid treatment. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of bridget I keep reading about muscle spasms and Conn's syndrome, would restless leg be classified as that? Just wondering if anyone out there that has been diagnosed with Hyperaldosteronism has restless leg as well. Thank you Bridget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 I had terrible spasms and twitches before I started potassium supplementation.They started to get more and more frequent , even times when my blood serum K+ was normal. Potassium and magnesium supplements helped me tremendously. It's funny because I don't notice my Spiro or K+ working and then I start to think about all the symptoms I had before starting medication. So much better now. Lori From: Valarie <val@...>hyperaldosteronism Sent: Fri, October 16, 2009 5:47:10 PMSubject: RE: restless leg I did for a long time before I got thyroid treatment. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldost eronism@gro ups.com] On Behalf Of bridget I keep reading about muscle spasms and Conn's syndrome, would restless leg be classified as that? Just wondering if anyone out there that has been diagnosed with Hyperaldosteronism has restless leg as well.Thank youBridget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Thank you guys, Val, do you have a thyroid problem or do you have hyperaldosteronism? sorry, I am new to all of this, actually still trying to find out what the heck is wrong with me, if I have conn's or not.... Bridget > > I had terrible spasms and twitches before I started potassium supplementation.They started to get more and more frequent , even times when my blood serum K+ was normal. Potassium and magnesium supplements helped me tremendously. It's funny because I don't notice my Spiro or K+ working and then I start to think about all the symptoms I had before starting medication. So much better now. Lori > > > > ________________________________ > From: Valarie <val@...> > hyperaldosteronism > Sent: Fri, October 16, 2009 5:47:10 PM > Subject: RE: restless leg > > > I did for a long time before I got thyroid treatment. > > Val > > From:hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldost eronism@gro ups.com] On Behalf Of bridget > > I keep reading about muscle spasms and Conn's syndrome, would restless leg be classified as that? Just wondering if anyone out there that has been diagnosed with Hyperaldosteronism has restless leg as well. > Thank you > Bridget > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 my legs hurt every night I am on a diuretic, not so much if not - however without the diuretic my pressure goes up. Bindner Web Directory (links to my sites and blogs): http://www.geocities.com/mikeybdc/index.html http://mikeybdc.blogspot.com From: bridget <blueyes7648@...>Subject: restless leghyperaldosteronism Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 5:27 PM I keep reading about muscle spasms and Conn's syndrome, would restless leg be classified as that? Just wondering if anyone out there that has been diagnosed with Hyperaldosteronism has restless leg as well.Thank youBridget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 here is an other place to see sx of conn's http://www.inspire.com/groups/rare-disease/discussion/conns-syndrome-hyperaldost\ eronism/ > > > > I had terrible spasms and twitches before I started potassium supplementation.They started to get more and more frequent , even times when my blood serum K+ was normal. Potassium and magnesium supplements helped me tremendously. It's funny because I don't notice my Spiro or K+ working and then I start to think about all the symptoms I had before starting medication. So much better now. Lori > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Valarie <val@> > > hyperaldosteronism > > Sent: Fri, October 16, 2009 5:47:10 PM > > Subject: RE: restless leg > > > > > > I did for a long time before I got thyroid treatment. > > > > Val > > > > From:hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldost eronism@gro ups.com] On Behalf Of bridget > > > > I keep reading about muscle spasms and Conn's syndrome, would restless leg be classified as that? Just wondering if anyone out there that has been diagnosed with Hyperaldosteronism has restless leg as well. > > Thank you > > Bridget > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 How many times a night did you get up to pee? Is this better?I am not clear. Did the spiro reverse most problems? May your pressure be low!Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MDSpecializing in Primary Aldosteronism the most common cause of "Difficult/Drug Resistant High Blood Pressure". Other research interests focus on the interactions of recent evolutionary forces on the body's ability to handle salt and the effect of dietary salt on blood pressure in populations today.Listed in Best Doctors of America 2009. On Oct 16, 2009, at 5:54 PM, Lori wrote: I had terrible spasms and twitches before I started potassium supplementation.They started to get more and more frequent , even times when my blood serum K+ was normal. Potassium and magnesium supplements helped me tremendously. It's funny because I don't notice my Spiro or K+ working and then I start to think about all the symptoms I had before starting medication. So much better now. Lori From: Valarie <val@...>hyperaldosteronism Sent: Fri, October 16, 2009 5:47:10 PMSubject: RE: restless leg I did for a long time before I got thyroid treatment. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldost eronism@gro ups.com] On Behalf Of bridget I keep reading about muscle spasms and Conn's syndrome, would restless leg be classified as that? Just wondering if anyone out there that has been diagnosed with Hyperaldosteronism has restless leg as well.Thank youBridget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 What has spiro done? May your pressure be low!Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MDSpecializing in Primary Aldosteronism the most common cause of "Difficult/Drug Resistant High Blood Pressure". Other research interests focus on the interactions of recent evolutionary forces on the body's ability to handle salt and the effect of dietary salt on blood pressure in populations today.Listed in Best Doctors of America 2009. On Oct 16, 2009, at 8:22 PM, Bindner wrote: my legs hurt every night I am on a diuretic, not so much if not - however without the diuretic my pressure goes up. Bindner Web Directory (links to my sites and blogs): http://www.geocities.com/mikeybdc/index.html http://mikeybdc.blogspot.com From: bridget <blueyes7648 >Subject: restless leghyperaldosteronism Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 5:27 PM I keep reading about muscle spasms and Conn's syndrome, would restless leg be classified as that? Just wondering if anyone out there that has been diagnosed with Hyperaldosteronism has restless leg as well.Thank youBridget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 I have hypothyroidism, hyperaldosteronism, have had a parathyroid adenoma removed. I am in CA right now, seeing a LYME disease specialist. She is the first one I've seen who seems to understand my CNS issues. Val On Behalf Of bridget Thank you guys, Val, do you have a thyroid problem or do you have hyperaldosteronism? sorry, I am new to all of this, actually still trying to find out what the heck is wrong with me, if I have conn's or not.... Bridget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2009 Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 When my potassium was low (for me) I had major twitches, cramps, tremors and jerks. One time my jaw muscle jerked severely to one side and my opposing ear popped. Scary lying in bed at night with these symptoms. I'd even get a leg cramp just from pushing the accelerator in my car. My mind wouldn't compute. It was really scared. Now that my potassium is better, I have less symptoms but it depends on the day. Last night I felt normal but the night before I swear I was going to have a heart attack..The palpitations freak me out! I try to practice deep breathing etc. but I feel like I'm a puppet -It is out of my control and I can't figure out what changes things so drastically. Anyhow, I try to cherish the good times as much as possible. Chantal > > I had terrible spasms and twitches before I started potassium supplementation.They started to get more and more frequent , even times when my blood serum K+ was normal. Potassium and magnesium supplements helped me tremendously. It's funny because I don't notice my Spiro or K+ working and then I start to think about all the symptoms I had before starting medication. So much better now. Lori > > > > ________________________________ > From: Valarie <val@...> > hyperaldosteronism > Sent: Fri, October 16, 2009 5:47:10 PM > Subject: RE: restless leg > > > I did for a long time before I got thyroid treatment. > > Val > > From:hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldost eronism@gro ups.com] On Behalf Of bridget > > I keep reading about muscle spasms and Conn's syndrome, would restless leg be classified as that? Just wondering if anyone out there that has been diagnosed with Hyperaldosteronism has restless leg as well. > Thank you > Bridget > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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