Restless leg

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Hi Bridget,

Don't know how much connection there is but my daughter has PA (lots

osymptoms but not including muscle spasms)

and I have Restless Leg Syndrome.

BTW, Magnesium helps with restless legs but gave me diarrhea. What form

do people take it in that avoids that problem?

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Jo Levitt

jolevitt1@...

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bridget wrote:

I keep reading about muscle spasms and Conn's syndrome, would

restless leg be classified as that? Just wondering if anyone out there

that has been diagnosed with Hyperaldosteronism has restless leg as

well.

Thank you

Bridget

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I recommend DASHING for Mg. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Oct 17, 2009, at 4:12 PM, Jo Levitt <jolevitt1@...> wrote:

Hi Bridget,

Don't know how much connection there is but my daughter has PA (lots

osymptoms but not including muscle spasms)

and I have Restless Leg Syndrome.

BTW, Magnesium helps with restless legs but gave me diarrhea. What form

do people take it in that avoids that problem?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Jo Levitt

jolevitt1gmail

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

bridget wrote:

I keep reading about muscle spasms and Conn's syndrome, would

restless leg be classified as that? Just wondering if anyone out there

that has been diagnosed with Hyperaldosteronism has restless leg as

well.

Thank you

Bridget

[Guest guest]

I got a racing heart from Hydralazine when I was new to it Now I don't.

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From: Chantal <chantalrobichaud29@...>Subject: Re: restless leghyperaldosteronism Date: Saturday, October 17, 2009, 2:07 PM

When my potassium was low (for me) I had major twitches, cramps, tremors and jerks. One time my jaw muscle jerked severely to one side and my opposing ear popped. Scary lying in bed at night with these symptoms. I'd even get a leg cramp just from pushing the accelerator in my car. My mind wouldn't compute.It was really scared. Now that my potassium is better, I have less symptoms but it depends on the day.Last night I felt normal but the night before I swear I was going to have a heart attack..The palpitations freak me out! I try to practice deep breathing etc. but I feel like I'm a puppet -It is out of my control and I can't figure out what changes things so drastically. Anyhow, I try to cherish the good times as much as possible.Chantal>> I had terrible spasms and twitches before I started potassium supplementation. They started to get more and more frequent , even times when my blood serum K+ was normal. Potassium and magnesium supplements helped me tremendously. It's funny because I don't notice my Spiro or K+ working and then I start to think about all the symptoms I had before starting medication. So much better now. Lori > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> From: Valarie <val@...>> hyperaldosteronism> Sent: Fri, October 16, 2009 5:47:10

PM> Subject: RE: [hyperaldosteronism ] restless leg> > > I did for a long time before I got thyroid treatment. > > Val> > From:hyperaldostero nism [mailto:hyperaldost eronism@gro ups.com] On Behalf Of bridget> > I keep reading about muscle spasms and Conn's syndrome, would restless leg be classified as that? Just wondering if anyone out there that has been diagnosed with Hyperaldosteronism has restless leg as well.> Thank you> Bridget>

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Seems you need to increase spiro some more and DASH more. May your pressure be low!Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MDSpecializing in Primary Aldosteronism the most common cause of "Difficult/Drug Resistant High Blood Pressure". Other research interests focus on the interactions of recent evolutionary forces on the body's ability to handle salt and the effect of dietary salt on blood pressure in populations today.Listed in Best Doctors of America 2009. On Oct 17, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Chantal wrote: When my potassium was low (for me) I had major twitches, cramps, tremors and jerks. One time my jaw muscle jerked severely to one side and my opposing ear popped. Scary lying in bed at night with these symptoms. I'd even get a leg cramp just from pushing the accelerator in my car. My mind wouldn't compute. It was really scared. Now that my potassium is better, I have less symptoms but it depends on the day. Last night I felt normal but the night before I swear I was going to have a heart attack..The palpitations freak me out! I try to practice deep breathing etc. but I feel like I'm a puppet -It is out of my control and I can't figure out what changes things so drastically. Anyhow, I try to cherish the good times as much as possible. Chantal > > I had terrible spasms and twitches before I started potassium supplementation.They started to get more and more frequent , even times when my blood serum K+ was normal. Potassium and magnesium supplements helped me tremendously. It's funny because I don't notice my Spiro or K+ working and then I start to think about all the symptoms I had before starting medication. So much better now. Lori > > > > ________________________________ > From: Valarie <val@...> > hyperaldosteronism > Sent: Fri, October 16, 2009 5:47:10 PM > Subject: RE: restless leg > > > I did for a long time before I got thyroid treatment. > > Val > > From:hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldost eronism@gro ups.com] On Behalf Of bridget > > I keep reading about muscle spasms and Conn's syndrome, would restless leg be classified as that? Just wondering if anyone out there that has been diagnosed with Hyperaldosteronism has restless leg as well. > Thank you > Bridget >

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A classic side effect of Hydral is increase in heart rate. Due to the very effective vasodilation and baroreceptors react to fall in pressure. Reason I always give a BB at the same time. My favorite combo before newer drugs. See my difficult HTN note in our files. May your pressure be low!Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MDSpecializing in Primary Aldosteronism the most common cause of "Difficult/Drug Resistant High Blood Pressure". Other research interests focus on the interactions of recent evolutionary forces on the body's ability to handle salt and the effect of dietary salt on blood pressure in populations today.Listed in Best Doctors of America 2009. On Oct 17, 2009, at 6:46 PM, Bindner wrote: I got a racing heart from Hydralazine when I was new to it Now I don't. Bindner Web Directory (links to my sites and blogs): http://www.geocities.com/mikeybdc/index.html http://mikeybdc.blogspot.com From: Chantal <chantalrobichaud29 (DOT) ca>Subject: Re: restless leghyperaldosteronism Date: Saturday, October 17, 2009, 2:07 PM When my potassium was low (for me) I had major twitches, cramps, tremors and jerks. One time my jaw muscle jerked severely to one side and my opposing ear popped. Scary lying in bed at night with these symptoms. I'd even get a leg cramp just from pushing the accelerator in my car. My mind wouldn't compute.It was really scared. Now that my potassium is better, I have less symptoms but it depends on the day.Last night I felt normal but the night before I swear I was going to have a heart attack..The palpitations freak me out! I try to practice deep breathing etc. but I feel like I'm a puppet -It is out of my control and I can't figure out what changes things so drastically. Anyhow, I try to cherish the good times as much as possible.Chantal>> I had terrible spasms and twitches before I started potassium supplementation. They started to get more and more frequent , even times when my blood serum K+ was normal. Potassium and magnesium supplements helped me tremendously. It's funny because I don't notice my Spiro or K+ working and then I start to think about all the symptoms I had before starting medication. So much better now. Lori > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> From: Valarie <val@...>> hyperaldosteronism> Sent: Fri, October 16, 2009 5:47:10 PM> Subject: RE: [hyperaldosteronism ] restless leg> > > I did for a long time before I got thyroid treatment. > > Val> > From:hyperaldostero nism [mailto:hyperaldost eronism@gro ups.com] On Behalf Of bridget> > I keep reading about muscle spasms and Conn's syndrome, would restless leg be classified as that? Just wondering if anyone out there that has been diagnosed with Hyperaldosteronism has restless leg as well.> Thank you> Bridget>

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I have had severe restless leg for 30 years.

It is a neurologic disorder. When the body relaxes the nerves go wild and the

body will not hold still. I can be totally exhausted, crying for sleep and

within 20 mintues to 1 1/2 hours the horrid sensations begin. It is impossible

to sleep. I have done everything and gone to every type of doctor, acupunture

chiropratic etc etc etc and taken herbs and medications of all sorts over the

years to no avail.

Is there ANY chance MMS has an effect? I did take it for a period of about two

weeks once a day building up from 1 drop to 25. It didn't notice anything with

that.

Has ANYONE had any personal experience with this and what has been their result?

Thanks ,

Peanut

[Guest guest]

You may be low on magnesium. Another big factor for your consideration may involve mercury intoxication. Do you have silver amalgam (mercury) dental fillings, eat a lot of tuna fish, had vaccines. You may be hypersensitive to mercury. Such a big fuss over lead poisoning yet mercury is about 5000 times more toxic than lead and its flagrantly careless use in medicine, dentistry and other industries goes on and on. Sea vegetables, chlorella, cilantro, juice fasting all help. Restless leg syndrome is a miserable life disrupting affliction. I hope you find the right professional who knows how to correct it for you.BetsyFrom: Peanut <wiley2001@...> Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 1:36:01 PMSubject: [ ] Restless leg

I have had severe restless leg for 30 years.

It is a neurologic disorder. When the body relaxes the nerves go wild and the body will not hold still. I can be totally exhausted, crying for sleep and within 20 mintues to 1 1/2 hours the horrid sensations begin. It is impossible to sleep. I have done everything and gone to every type of doctor, acupunture chiropratic etc etc etc and taken herbs and medications of all sorts over the years to no avail.

Is there ANY chance MMS has an effect? I did take it for a period of about two weeks once a day building up from 1 drop to 25. It didn't notice anything with that.

Has ANYONE had any personal experience with this and what has been their result?

Thanks ,

Peanut

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Hi Peanut. I have heard many great things about for the product Calm by Gillham for restless legs. http://www.naturalcalm.eu/insomnia-remedy-restlesslegsyndrome

From: Betsy Sinkey <westoo@...> Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 3:04:08 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Restless leg

You may be low on magnesium. Another big factor for your consideration may involve mercury intoxication. Do you have silver amalgam (mercury) dental fillings, eat a lot of tuna fish, had vaccines. You may be hypersensitive to mercury. Such a big fuss over lead poisoning yet mercury is about 5000 times more toxic than lead and its flagrantly careless use in medicine, dentistry and other industries goes on and on. Sea vegetables, chlorella, cilantro, juice fasting all help. Restless leg syndrome is a miserable life disrupting affliction. I hope you find the right professional who knows how to correct it for you.Betsy

From: Peanut <wiley2001live (DOT) com>miracle_mineral_ supplementSent: Sun, January 17, 2010 1:36:01 PMSubject: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] Restless leg

I have had severe restless leg for 30 years. It is a neurologic disorder. When the body relaxes the nerves go wild and the body will not hold still. I can be totally exhausted, crying for sleep and within 20 mintues to 1 1/2 hours the horrid sensations begin. It is impossible to sleep. I have done everything and gone to every type of doctor, acupunture chiropratic etc etc etc and taken herbs and medications of all sorts over the years to no avail.Is there ANY chance MMS has an effect? I did take it for a period of about two weeks once a day building up from 1 drop to 25. It didn't notice anything with that.Has ANYONE had any personal experience with this and what has been their result?Thanks ,Peanut

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I do take lots of magnesium but I am willing to try almost anything!!!!!!!!

Maybe this is a better magnesium, I don't know but ...I am so frustrated. The

site you gave seems to be in the UK? Is this product sold in the US?

Peanut

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> Hi Peanut.  I have heard many great things about for the product Calm by

Gillham for restless legs. 

http://www.naturalcalm.eu/insomnia-remedy-restlesslegsyndrome

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Betsy Sinkey <westoo@...>

>

> Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 3:04:08 PM

> Subject: Re: [ ] Restless leg

>

>  

> You may be low on magnesium.  Another big factor for your consideration may

involve mercury intoxication.  Do you have silver amalgam (mercury) dental

fillings, eat a lot of tuna fish, had vaccines. You may be hypersensitive to

mercury.  Such a big fuss over lead poisoning yet mercury is about 5000 times

more toxic than lead and its flagrantly careless use in medicine, dentistry and

other industries goes on and on.  Sea vegetables, chlorella, cilantro, juice

fasting all help.  Restless leg syndrome is a miserable life disrupting

affliction.  I hope you find the right professional who knows how to correct it

for you.

> Betsy

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Peanut <wiley2001live (DOT) com>

> miracle_mineral_ supplement

> Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 1:36:01 PM

> Subject: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] Restless leg

>

>  

> I have had severe restless leg for 30 years.

> It is a neurologic disorder. When the body relaxes the nerves go wild and the

body will not hold still. I can be totally exhausted, crying for sleep and

within 20 mintues to 1 1/2 hours the horrid sensations begin. It is impossible

to sleep. I have done everything and gone to every type of doctor, acupunture

chiropratic etc etc etc and taken herbs and medications of all sorts over the

years to no avail.

>

> Is there ANY chance MMS has an effect? I did take it for a period of about two

weeks once a day building up from 1 drop to 25. It didn't notice anything with

that.

>

> Has ANYONE had any personal experience with this and what has been their

result?

>

> Thanks ,

> Peanut

>

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Hi Peanut. This is where I purchased mine http://www.iherb.com/Search?kw=calm. If you google Calm, you will see a lot of comments concerning restless legs. I have also purchased the magnesium chloride where you spray it on your body here

http://life-enthusiast.com/usa/advanced_search_result.php?search_in_description=1 & keywords=magnesium+oil.

Also, have a look at this site http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/restless_legs.html, it has so much information. I wish you the best in your search. Orrilia

From: Peanut <wiley2001@...> Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 8:18:54 PMSubject: [ ] Re: Restless leg

I do take lots of magnesium but I am willing to try almost anything!!!! !!!! Maybe this is a better magnesium, I don't know but ...I am so frustrated. The site you gave seems to be in the UK? Is this product sold in the US?Peanut>> Hi Peanut. I have heard many great things about for the product Calm by Gillham for restless legs. http://www.naturalc alm.eu/insomnia- remedy-restlessl egsyndrome> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> From: Betsy Sinkey <westoo@...>> miracle_mineral_ supplement> Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 3:04:08 PM> Subject: Re: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] Restless leg> >  > You may be low on magnesium. Another big factor for your consideration may involve mercury intoxication. Do you have silver amalgam (mercury) dental fillings, eat a lot of tuna fish, had vaccines. You may be hypersensitive to mercury. Such a big fuss over lead poisoning yet mercury is about 5000 times more toxic than lead and its flagrantly careless use in medicine, dentistry and other industries goes on and on. Sea vegetables, chlorella, cilantro, juice fasting all help. Restless leg syndrome is a miserable life disrupting affliction. I hope you find the right

professional who knows how to correct it for you.> Betsy> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> From: Peanut <wiley2001live (DOT) com>> miracle_mineral_ supplement> Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 1:36:01 PM> Subject: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] Restless leg> > Â > I have had severe restless leg for 30 years. > It is a neurologic disorder. When the body relaxes the nerves go wild and the body will not hold still. I can be totally exhausted, crying for sleep and within 20 mintues to 1 1/2 hours the horrid sensations begin. It is impossible to sleep. I have done everything and gone to every type of doctor, acupunture chiropratic etc etc etc and taken herbs and medications of all sorts over the years to no avail.> > Is there ANY chance MMS has an effect? I did take it for a period of about two weeks

once a day building up from 1 drop to 25. It didn't notice anything with that.> > Has ANYONE had any personal experience with this and what has been their result?> > Thanks ,> Peanut> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/>

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" Calm " is magnesium.  I take it and have tried other brands. My heart palps always return, so it's back to calm.  They even sell it at Bartells.I've often wondered of RL is due to Lyme? Have you been tested by IgeneX (not a standard lab)?

Have you tried the new MMS protocol?  Humble says it is much more affective AND you can take it in capsules.  2-6 drops -+ activator - once an hour for 8 hours a day.Also deficiencies in some B vitamins cause nerve problems.

Just some thoughts,

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Hi Peanut,

I sincerely suggest to try medicinal mushroom " Ganoderma " , a wonder super food ,

it can give a break-through.

Here is a link to the one of the sources, which I procure from.

http://www.dxnusa.com

You can also find other sources in the net.

I have been benefited very much from it, for all ailments including neurological

problems.

Best of luck

KGR

--- In , " Peanut " <wiley2001@...>

wrote:

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> I have had severe restless leg for 30 years.

> It is a neurologic disorder. When the body relaxes the nerves go wild and the

body will not hold still. I can be totally exhausted, crying for sleep and

within 20 mintues to 1 1/2 hours the horrid sensations begin. It is impossible

to sleep. I have done everything and gone to every type of doctor, acupunture

chiropratic etc etc etc and taken herbs and medications of all sorts over the

years to no avail.

>

> Is there ANY chance MMS has an effect? I did take it for a period of about two

weeks once a day building up from 1 drop to 25. It didn't notice anything with

that.

>

> Has ANYONE had any personal experience with this and what has been their

result?

>

> Thanks ,

> Peanut

>

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On 2010-01-17 2:36 PM, Peanut wrote:

> I have had severe restless leg for 30 years.

> It is a neurologic disorder.

Says who?

> When the body relaxes the nerves go wild and the body will not hold

> still. I can be totally exhausted, crying for sleep and within 20

> mintues to 1 1/2 hours the horrid sensations begin. It is impossible

> to sleep. I have done everything and gone to every type of doctor,

> acupunture chiropratic etc etc etc and taken herbs and medications of

> all sorts over the years to no avail.

>

> Is there ANY chance MMS has an effect?

Not for either a neorological disorder (although I am not convinced

yours is), nor a mineral deficiency. In fact, MMS1 could *exacerbate*

the problem if it is a mineral deficiency.

> I did take it for a period of about two weeks once a day building up

> from 1 drop to 25. It didn't notice anything with that.

>

> Has ANYONE had any personal experience with this and what has been

> their result?

I used to have a mild form of it, and it was due to being low in

magnesium...

I would personally recommend a good quality all-in-one mineral

supplement (I like Fulvic Acid Minerals, from www.vitalearth.org), and I

would also make my own magnesium bicarbonite and drink that to get my

magnesium levels back up to normal fast. Here is one link with instructions:

http://tiny.pl/hmcdf

and

http://www.healthtruthrevealed.com/articles/1154251401/article

If that is your problem you should get 100% relief of symptoms within a

few days to a week.

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On 2010-01-17, Peanut (wiley2001@...) wrote:

> I do take lots of magnesium

What kind/brand/form?

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Well, I'm trying to put together in my mind all that you all have suggested.

I believe the first and easiest will be to make the magnesium bicarb water and

see what happens.

I will also be looking into other suggestions, too.

PLEASE If anyone has more suggestions DO ADD YOUR THOUGHTS.

Peace,

Peanut

> > I have had severe restless leg for 30 years.

> > It is a neurologic disorder.

>

> Says who?

>

> > When the body relaxes the nerves go wild and the body will not hold

> > still. I can be totally exhausted, crying for sleep and within 20

> > mintues to 1 1/2 hours the horrid sensations begin. It is impossible

> > to sleep. I have done everything and gone to every type of doctor,

> > acupunture chiropratic etc etc etc and taken herbs and medications of

> > all sorts over the years to no avail.

> >

> > Is there ANY chance MMS has an effect?

>

> Not for either a neorological disorder (although I am not convinced

> yours is), nor a mineral deficiency. In fact, MMS1 could *exacerbate*

> the problem if it is a mineral deficiency.

>

> > I did take it for a period of about two weeks once a day building up

> > from 1 drop to 25. It didn't notice anything with that.

> >

> > Has ANYONE had any personal experience with this and what has been

> > their result?

>

> I used to have a mild form of it, and it was due to being low in

> magnesium...

>

> I would personally recommend a good quality all-in-one mineral

> supplement (I like Fulvic Acid Minerals, from www.vitalearth.org), and I

> would also make my own magnesium bicarbonite and drink that to get my

> magnesium levels back up to normal fast. Here is one link with instructions:

>

> http://tiny.pl/hmcdf

>

> and

>

> http://www.healthtruthrevealed.com/articles/1154251401/article

>

> If that is your problem you should get 100% relief of symptoms within a

> few days to a week.

>

[Guest guest]

I agree, but you may not want to stop there. 

Not for either a neorological disorder (although I am not convinced

yours is), nor a mineral deficiency. In fact, MMS1 could *exacerbate*

the problem if it is a mineral deficiency.Yes and no.  MMS may exacerbate a mineral deficiency, however, from a Lymie here:Lyme loves magnesium and devours it.  So, is it the chicken or the egg.  Could it be Lyme, that

is causing damage, additionally Lyme lowering magnesium? With Lyme, you must take a multifaceted approach - kill the bugs and supplement the minerals.  I'm not saying you have Lyme - I'm just saying that I wouldn't stop at 'mineral deficiency' if supplementing seems to help.

 I do remember one day when my heart was beating so irregularly that I thought I would have a heart attack.  I was at my son's football game thinking " I'm going to drop dead " .   I could also feel every muscle in my body tightening. I could hardly turn my head. Then I remembered that I had been aggressively chelating the last week.  All my chelating supps said they would only remove heavy metals (not the good guys) hmmmm.  I left the game, ran to Super Supplements and bought  Trace Minerals liquid Cal/Mag/Zinc.  I drank a bunch down, ate an apple (fiber), and within an hour my heart was fine. I kept dosing hourly. (I don't use the liquid any more because it's too expensive.) 

Consider yourself extremely lucky and blessed if supplement minerals is sufficient.  I sincerely hope this is the case for you.If you cannot find the excellent minerals below in your local store and need to order online, you probably can find in your local store Calm magnesium and Trace Minerals Cal/Mag/Zinc tablets. Run don't walk.  If you do this, taking minerals with fiber will help keep your bowels from getting too loose.

 I've also had many muscle problems when my electrolytes get out of balance.  Any good minerals should contain these, but probably the most widely available is EmergenC - available everywhere.  I've had a doc tell me you can safely take 4 at once, then several more every hour.

Good luck. 

I would personally recommend a good quality all-in-one mineral

supplement (I like Fulvic Acid Minerals, from www.vitalearth.org), and I

would also make my own magnesium bicarbonite and drink that to get my

magnesium levels back up to normal fast. Here is one link with instructions:

http://tiny.pl/hmcdf

and

http://www.healthtruthrevealed.com/articles/1154251401/article

If that is your problem you should get 100% relief of symptoms within a

few days to a week.

[Guest guest]

--- In , " Peanut " <wiley2001@...>

wrote:

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> PLEASE If anyone has more suggestions DO ADD YOUR THOUGHTS.

*******

Peanut: I had RL for years when my lyme induced FMS was so bad. It is

absolutely one of the worst things to deal with, as it is like having an

electrical current running down your leg and there is nothing you can do but

move that leg…it absolutely drives you insane. In my case, I believe it was

caused by inflammation from toxins in my hip joints and muscles, because as I

slowly cleared the toxins, the RL eventually dissipated along with many other

bad symptoms.

MMS is certainly worth a try as it may help reduce inflammation from whatever

the cause. I agree 100% with the magnesium " Natural Calm " …it is excellent and

can be found in most any health food store. Other suggestions: (1) try getting

a good workout in the hips by going for a long walk in late afternoon; (2) take

a 30-minute hot Epson salt bath before bed {1 cup Epson salt plus 1 cup baking

soda}; (3) take a full dose of good quality fish oil daily to reduce

inflammation; (4) sit on heating pad before going to bed, or lie on it at

bedtime; (5) two Tylenol before bed would help me at times but I did not like

taking it…(6) when desperate for sleep, on occasion…a small amount of NyQuil

and (7) something I never did because I didn't have knowledge about it at the

time (but would certainly try it now)… ingest as small amount of DMSO daily.

Sometimes one or the other of these things would help….sometimes nothing would

work…. Hope something here will be useful to you.

Best wishes

Diane

>

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sota silver pulser with electricla current

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--- In , " Peanut " <wiley2001@...>

wrote:

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> PLEASE If anyone has more suggestions DO ADD YOUR THOUGHTS.

*******

Peanut: I had RL for years when my lyme induced FMS was so bad. It is

absolutely one of the worst things to deal with, as it is like having an

electrical current running down your leg and there is nothing you can do but

move that leg.it absolutely drives you insane. In my case, I believe it

was caused by inflammation from toxins in my hip joints and muscles, because

as I slowly cleared the toxins, the RL eventually dissipated along with many

other bad symptoms.

MMS is certainly worth a try as it may help reduce inflammation from

whatever the cause. I agree 100% with the magnesium " Natural Calm " .it is

excellent and can be found in most any health food store. Other

suggestions: (1) try getting a good workout in the hips by going for a long

walk in late afternoon; (2) take a 30-minute hot Epson salt bath before bed

{1 cup Epson salt plus 1 cup baking soda}; (3) take a full dose of good

quality fish oil daily to reduce inflammation; (4) sit on heating pad

before going to bed, or lie on it at bedtime; (5) two Tylenol before bed

would help me at times but I did not like taking it.(6) when desperate for

sleep, on occasion.a small amount of NyQuil and (7) something I never did

because I didn't have knowledge about it at the time (but would certainly

try it now). ingest as small amount of DMSO daily.

Sometimes one or the other of these things would help..sometimes nothing

would work.. Hope something here will be useful to you.

Best wishes

Diane

>

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Diane,

I think since several folks have mentioned it I may get a lyme test just to

see if that may be a contributing factor.

I have also read that there seems to be a DNA factor. I did have a number

of bad falls with in a few months of when it all began....Hmmmm,

I actually run about 4 miles three to 4 times a week.

I have taken epsom salt bath before bed but will try it with the baking soda

added as you suggested.

I quite often take a hot water bottle to bed with me.

Yeah, I 've done the same with the Tylenol. If I have taken it a lot I do a

liver cleanse with Essaic tea and milk thistle.

Can't do the Nyquil the benedryl in it makes it worse and I get REALLY cranky

but thanks for the suggestion.

Wondering about what you had said about " Clearing the toxins "

How did you do that and over what period of time.

I am presently taking Requip at 5 mg a night.

Thanks for your help.

Peanut

> Peanut: I had RL for years when my lyme induced FMS was so bad. It is

> absolutely one of the worst things to deal with, as it is like having an

> electrical current running down your leg and there is nothing you can do but

> move that leg.it absolutely drives you insane. In my case, I believe it

> was caused by inflammation from toxins in my hip joints and muscles, because

> as I slowly cleared the toxins, the RL eventually dissipated along with many

> other bad symptoms.

>

> MMS is certainly worth a try as it may help reduce inflammation from

> whatever the cause. I agree 100% with the magnesium " Natural Calm " .it is

> excellent and can be found in most any health food store. Other

> suggestions: (1) try getting a good workout in the hips by going for a long

> walk in late afternoon; (2) take a 30-minute hot Epson salt bath before bed

> {1 cup Epson salt plus 1 cup baking soda}; (3) take a full dose of good

> quality fish oil daily to reduce inflammation; (4) sit on heating pad

> before going to bed, or lie on it at bedtime; (5) two Tylenol before bed

> would help me at times but I did not like taking it.(6) when desperate for

> sleep, on occasion.a small amount of NyQuil and (7) something I never did

> because I didn't have knowledge about it at the time (but would certainly

> try it now). ingest as small amount of DMSO daily.

>

> Sometimes one or the other of these things would help..sometimes nothing

> would work.. Hope something here will be useful to you.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Diane

>

>

>

>

>

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

--- In , " Peanut " <wiley2001@...>

wrote:

>

I did have a number of bad falls with in a few months of when it all

began....Hmmmm,

> I actually run about 4 miles three to 4 times a week.

Peanut:

You probably answered your own question…several bad falls at the time it

started. I would, as mentioned before, try the fish oil and DMSO for

inflammation. Also, if it were me, I would get a couple of adjustments from a

chiropractor to possibly realign something that may be out of place. If you have

the stamina to run 4 miles three or four times and week without any other

unusual symptoms or problems, lyme is probably not an issue for you

> Wondering about what you had said about " Clearing the toxins "

> How did you do that and over what period of time.

That is a fairly complicated protocol (St. Amand) for Fibromyalgia using

guaifenesin to reduce knots and bumps (toxins) that accumulate in muscles. I

started the process 10 years ago and still have areas to clear. It takes years

and years to clear for someone as myself who's FMS started over 50 years ago

shortly after receiving a tick bite with rash and all the goodies that go with

it.

Best wishes,

Diane

[Guest guest]

It's a bummer about the DMSO. I did take it and put in on myself for a couple of

weeks but had to stop. Seems everyone at work couldn't stand my breath. I even

had patients complaining. It was pretty ugly and people could smell it all over

the room!!!!!!!

I am at present starting to take DE and clay in an effort to clear some toxins.

Just started two days ago and will continue for a few months. When that time is

gone if I don't see any changes I would like to know more about the guaifenesin.

I believe that is found in over the counter cough meds? Curious as to what you

maybe cleared? Or was it to clear toxins from the lyme?

I am a Reiki Master Teacher. I must say that for the past 7 years it has saved

my sanity! My husband is a Reiki Master also. When I need to keep going after a

particular run of bad nights He sends me a big ball of energy and it helps me

through the day.

I'm sure I am like most folks on this site by saying that in the past 30 years I

can actually fondling remember the perhaps 10 times I slept the entire

night......

People ask me why don't I just take a nap when I get home from work.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I lay down and fall asleep then wake up 15- 20

minutes later and say, " Well, never mind " , and go running.

I cannot tell you what a relief it is to finally find this site where people

actually know what I go through.

I am a very upbeat and happy person. My quest is to be a blessing to those

around me so no one except you all and my dear, sweet husband truly know what it

is like.

Many blessings to you all and thank you for your input.

Peanut

--- In , " DianeS " <dsomerstn@...>

wrote:

>

>

>

> --- In , " Peanut " <wiley2001@>

wrote:

> >

> I did have a number of bad falls with in a few months of when it all

began....Hmmmm,

> > I actually run about 4 miles three to 4 times a week.

>

> Peanut:

> You probably answered your own question…several bad falls at the time it

started. I would, as mentioned before, try the fish oil and DMSO for

inflammation. Also, if it were me, I would get a couple of adjustments from a

chiropractor to possibly realign something that may be out of place. If you have

the stamina to run 4 miles three or four times and week without any other

unusual symptoms or problems, lyme is probably not an issue for you

>

> > Wondering about what you had said about " Clearing the toxins "

> > How did you do that and over what period of time.

>

> That is a fairly complicated protocol (St. Amand) for Fibromyalgia using

guaifenesin to reduce knots and bumps (toxins) that accumulate in muscles. I

started the process 10 years ago and still have areas to clear. It takes years

and years to clear for someone as myself who's FMS started over 50 years ago

shortly after receiving a tick bite with rash and all the goodies that go with

it.

>

> Best wishes,

> Diane

>

[Guest guest]

The DMSO in baths with MMS1 may be better for you. I know about the garlic smell

from DMSO it is the sulfur.

http://mms4life.wordpress.com/mms-protocolactivation/mms-method-for-bathsoak/

http://jimhumble.biz/biz-tubbath.htm

--- In , " Peanut " <wiley2001@...>

wrote:

>

> It's a bummer about the DMSO. I did take it and put in on myself for a couple

of weeks but had to stop. Seems everyone at work couldn't stand my breath. I

even had patients complaining. It was pretty ugly and people could smell it all

over the room!!!!!!!

>

> I am at present starting to take DE and clay in an effort to clear some

toxins. Just started two days ago and will continue for a few months. When that

time is gone if I don't see any changes I would like to know more about the

guaifenesin. I believe that is found in over the counter cough meds? Curious as

to what you maybe cleared? Or was it to clear toxins from the lyme?

>

> I am a Reiki Master Teacher. I must say that for the past 7 years it has saved

my sanity! My husband is a Reiki Master also. When I need to keep going after a

particular run of bad nights He sends me a big ball of energy and it helps me

through the day.

>

> I'm sure I am like most folks on this site by saying that in the past 30 years

I can actually fondling remember the perhaps 10 times I slept the entire

night......

>

> People ask me why don't I just take a nap when I get home from work.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I lay down and fall asleep then wake up 15- 20

minutes later and say, " Well, never mind " , and go running.

>

> I cannot tell you what a relief it is to finally find this site where people

actually know what I go through.

>

> I am a very upbeat and happy person. My quest is to be a blessing to those

around me so no one except you all and my dear, sweet husband truly know what it

is like.

>

> Many blessings to you all and thank you for your input.

>

> Peanut

>

>

>

> --- In , " DianeS " <dsomerstn@>

wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In , " Peanut " <wiley2001@>

wrote:

> > >

> > I did have a number of bad falls with in a few months of when it all

began....Hmmmm,

> > > I actually run about 4 miles three to 4 times a week.

> >

> > Peanut:

> > You probably answered your own question…several bad falls at the time it

started. I would, as mentioned before, try the fish oil and DMSO for

inflammation. Also, if it were me, I would get a couple of adjustments from a

chiropractor to possibly realign something that may be out of place. If you have

the stamina to run 4 miles three or four times and week without any other

unusual symptoms or problems, lyme is probably not an issue for you

> >

> > > Wondering about what you had said about " Clearing the toxins "

> > > How did you do that and over what period of time.

> >

> > That is a fairly complicated protocol (St. Amand) for Fibromyalgia using

guaifenesin to reduce knots and bumps (toxins) that accumulate in muscles. I

started the process 10 years ago and still have areas to clear. It takes years

and years to clear for someone as myself who's FMS started over 50 years ago

shortly after receiving a tick bite with rash and all the goodies that go with

it.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Diane

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I had the same problem with DMSO when I took it orally - and I could not smell it! YIKES!  My kids and hubby said I smelled like garlic infused spoiled clam chowder!  The last week I've been mixing it with activated MMS1 and putting it them in my bath - so far no stinky b.o.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Peanut <wiley2001@...> wrote:

 

It's a bummer about the DMSO. I did take it and put in on myself for a couple of weeks but had to stop. Seems everyone at work couldn't stand my breath. I even had patients complaining. It was pretty ugly and people could smell it all over the room!!!!!!!

I am at present starting to take DE and clay in an effort to clear some toxins. Just started two days ago and will continue for a few months. When that time is gone if I don't see any changes I would like to know more about the guaifenesin. I believe that is found in over the counter cough meds? Curious as to what you maybe cleared? Or was it to clear toxins from the lyme?

I am a Reiki Master Teacher. I must say that for the past 7 years it has saved my sanity! My husband is a Reiki Master also. When I need to keep going after a particular run of bad nights He sends me a big ball of energy and it helps me through the day.

I'm sure I am like most folks on this site by saying that in the past 30 years I can actually fondling remember the perhaps 10 times I slept the entire night......

People ask me why don't I just take a nap when I get home from work. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I lay down and fall asleep then wake up 15- 20 minutes later and say, " Well, never mind " , and go running.

I cannot tell you what a relief it is to finally find this site where people actually know what I go through.

I am a very upbeat and happy person. My quest is to be a blessing to those around me so no one except you all and my dear, sweet husband truly know what it is like.

Many blessings to you all and thank you for your input.

Peanut

> >

> I did have a number of bad falls with in a few months of when it all began....Hmmmm,

> > I actually run about 4 miles three to 4 times a week.

>

> Peanut:

> You probably answered your own question…several bad falls at the time it started. I would, as mentioned before, try the fish oil and DMSO for inflammation. Also, if it were me, I would get a couple of adjustments from a chiropractor to possibly realign something that may be out of place. If you have the stamina to run 4 miles three or four times and week without any other unusual symptoms or problems, lyme is probably not an issue for you

>

> > Wondering about what you had said about " Clearing the toxins "

> > How did you do that and over what period of time.

>

> That is a fairly complicated protocol (St. Amand) for Fibromyalgia using guaifenesin to reduce knots and bumps (toxins) that accumulate in muscles. I started the process 10 years ago and still have areas to clear. It takes years and years to clear for someone as myself who's FMS started over 50 years ago shortly after receiving a tick bite with rash and all the goodies that go with it.

>

> Best wishes,

> Diane

>

[Guest guest]

That's interesting.

I solved the problem by taking chlorophyll capsules.

http://www.puritan.com/chlorophyll-598/chlorophyll-concentrate-003461?NewPage=1#\

siblings

Chuck

Barium............ What you do when C.P.R. fails.

On 1/20/2010 7:00:16 PM, H (40dayjourney@...) wrote:

> I had the same problem with DMSO when I took it orally - and I could not

> smell it! YIKES!  My kids and hubby said I smelled like garlic infused

> spoiled clam chowder!  The last week

> I've been mixing it with activated MMS1 and putting it them in my bath - so

far no stinky b.o.

>

[Guest guest]

Peanut: Here are a couple of additional suggestions you may want to try to get

relief from RLS. You received the hint that chlorophyll does a good job

eliminating the odor of DMSO. Chlorophyll is available at any health food store.

If DMSO is not an option, you can opt for the next best thing which is MSM which

is also excellent. Do not take it late in the day as some find it can disturb

sleep. The supplement Alpha-Lipoic is excellent to use for the purpose of

supporting nerves and preventing damage. Very important are B-Vitamins for

nerves. B-6 is known to cure carpel tunnel. Taking a B-complex along with extra

B-6 at bedtime may help to eventually eliminate RLS. No single B Vitamin should

ever be taken alone for any length of time, so the complex is needed. As with

any natural approach to healing, it may take time and persistance to get results

so patience is a must.

Best wishes,

Diane

--- In , " Peanut " <wiley2001@...>

wrote:

>

> It's a bummer about the DMSO. I did take it and put in on myself for a couple

of weeks but had to stop. Seems everyone at work couldn't stand my breath. I

even had patients complaining. It was pretty ugly and people could smell it all

over the room!!!!!!!

>

> I am at present starting to take DE and clay in an effort to clear some

toxins. Just started two days ago and will continue for a few months. When that

time is gone if I don't see any changes I would like to know more about the

guaifenesin. I believe that is found in over the counter cough meds? Curious as

to what you maybe cleared? Or was it to clear toxins from the lyme?

>

> I am a Reiki Master Teacher. I must say that for the past 7 years it has saved

my sanity! My husband is a Reiki Master also. When I need to keep going after a

particular run of bad nights He sends me a big ball of energy and it helps me

through the day.

>

> I'm sure I am like most folks on this site by saying that in the past 30 years

I can actually fondling remember the perhaps 10 times I slept the entire

night......

>

> People ask me why don't I just take a nap when I get home from work.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I lay down and fall asleep then wake up 15- 20

minutes later and say, " Well, never mind " , and go running.

>

> I cannot tell you what a relief it is to finally find this site where people

actually know what I go through.

>

> I am a very upbeat and happy person. My quest is to be a blessing to those

around me so no one except you all and my dear, sweet husband truly know what it

is like.

>

> Many blessings to you all and thank you for your input.

>

> Peanut

>

>

>

> --- In , " DianeS " <dsomerstn@>

wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In , " Peanut " <wiley2001@>

wrote:

> > >

> > I did have a number of bad falls with in a few months of when it all

began....Hmmmm,

> > > I actually run about 4 miles three to 4 times a week.

> >

> > Peanut:

> > You probably answered your own question…several bad falls at the time it

started. I would, as mentioned before, try the fish oil and DMSO for

inflammation. Also, if it were me, I would get a couple of adjustments from a

chiropractor to possibly realign something that may be out of place. If you have

the stamina to run 4 miles three or four times and week without any other

unusual symptoms or problems, lyme is probably not an issue for you

> >

> > > Wondering about what you had said about " Clearing the toxins "

> > > How did you do that and over what period of time.

> >

> > That is a fairly complicated protocol (St. Amand) for Fibromyalgia using

guaifenesin to reduce knots and bumps (toxins) that accumulate in muscles. I

started the process 10 years ago and still have areas to clear. It takes years

and years to clear for someone as myself who's FMS started over 50 years ago

shortly after receiving a tick bite with rash and all the goodies that go with

it.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Diane

> >

>