Guest guest Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 On 2009-12-31, D. (parisd2002@...) wrote: > I must be the stupid today but I went back to the 4 answers to my > initial post and did not find any link, if you are talking of links > for audited proof and testimonies provided in this group, sorry > but I did not find any or it would take me my end of year night to > read in past messages or files so please clarify ! I am eager with > your help to read serious claims about curing aids or Hep or other > deseases. My apologies - I went back and looked, and none of the replies to any of your posts had any links in them... but they are posted here so often, I thought you would have seen them... All I can do is point you to Jims site: http://jimhumble.biz/ If you don't find what you want there, then Google is the only alternative. But, I have to echo Greg's excellent response - I don't think you will find what you are asking for, and possibly never will (for the reasons outlined in Gregs response). Good post Greg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 On 2010-01-01, D. (parisd2002@...) wrote: > First the world is not the USA and the agency FDA, Jim himself is > probably not in the USA then I am not asking for MMS to be promoted > by doctors or big pharma Surely you aren't suggesting that 'big pharma' and their desire to monopolize the treatment of disease is limited only to the USA? > but I am simply asking for proof that MMS works for the quite > impressive list of diseases that I have seen in Jim ebooks. <sigh> and again - you will most likely never see such proof, at least not in the form that woudl apparently satisfy you. Get over it - it ain't happening. > For Aids, I read the last protocol cured 50 persons, what are their > names, where are their testimonies, I dont think those persons are > all frighten to give a testimony, What you think is irrelevant. Reality, is. > Is their any audited reports (if this means something to any of you) > to back the statement that MMS worked on them. Same for Malaria, > hep,... Let me try to answer your question in a way that you will understand: NO. Sorry, I don't mean to be rude, but you keep asking for proof, and we keep telling you THERE IS NO PROOF, beyond the anecdotal posts you have seen here on this list. > When Toyota claims that the Prius consumes 100 miles/gallon the claim > is audited by independent source, so no need to argue whether or not > it is true. And selling Toyota's is a profitable and highly regulated business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 To the writer of this email. Why don't you get volunteers, AIDS patients in U.S. or elsewhere to buy MMS1 and MMS2 and have blood tests before and after to prove it for themselves. If I had AIDS i would do it. In the U.S. the medical/big pharma conspiracy would NEVER allow it as they make too much money keeping AIDS patients on their drugs. [ ] Re: MMS1 + 2 cure Aids Malaria what about Hep and what about accurate and audited proofs Greg,First the world is not the USA and the agency FDA, Jim himself is probably not in the USA then I am not asking for MMS to be promoted by doctors or big pharma but I am simply asking for proof that MMS works for the quite impressive list of diseases that I have seen in Jim ebooks. For Aids, I read the last protocol cured 50 persons, what are their names, where are their testimonies, I dont think those persons are all frighten to give a testimony, is big US pahrma going to catch them in Lesotho or where they are !? Is their any audited reports (if this means something to any of you) to back the statement that MMS worked on them. Same for Malaria, hep,...When Toyota claims that the Prius consumes 100 miles/gallon the claim is audited by independent source, so no need to argue whether or not it is true.Yes, you are right, even if MMS is proved underground to cure AIDs nothing will be done to promote MMS and it will never replace costly treatment or prevention for Aids/Malaria, but people who search and find MMS will not have to trust blindly J Humble to take it.> > > > I also read in previous post MMS works for Hep but take longer, great> > > > but what is the source for your information, I would like to> > > > read more about it.> > > > > > Are you simply refusing to go read? Or would you rather take the word of> > > some random person on an email list?> > > > > > The links already provided provide as much in the way of answers as you> > > are likely to find.> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 A bit of interesting background. This past summer I ran into a man and was telling him about 'this substance' (MMS) and what it was capable of. He said--"oh! You know, a couple weeks ago I met this lady. She had been a volunteer nurse in Africa and was telling me about this liquid that they gave to a bunch of inmates in the prison. They were testing it out on AIDs and malaria. It cured every one of them, but of course they wouldn't let us report any of it. It's too bad because it could save a lot of people." The man I had been talking to about MMS had no idea what the name of the liquid was that the nurse was talking about, or who the heck Jim Humble was--but since the lady's story and Jim's story match, I am assuming that both the lady and Jim were telling the truth. You believe what you want. Me? I believe Jim. I also understand that we in America and Europe deal with many more toxins (on a daily constant basis, besides) than Africans do. Which is why I think we don't get the quick results that the African's get. Still, I do think that MMS has its place in many healing modalities. Samala, -------Original Message------- First the world is not the USA and the agency FDA, Jim himself is probably not in the USA then I am not asking for MMS to be promoted by doctors or big pharma but I am simply asking for proof that MMS works for the quite impressive list of diseases that I have seen in Jim ebooks. For Aids, I read the last protocol cured 50 persons, what are their names, where are their testimonies, I dont think those persons are all frighten to give a testimony, is big US pahrma going to catch them in Lesotho or where they are !? Is their any audited reports (if this means something to any of you) to back the statement that MMS worked on them. Same for Malaria, hep,... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 No, they did not persecute the nurse. She came back to the US but could only tell people of what happened, they didn't allow her to take any proof out, just like Jim says. They won't officially recognize the validity of MMS. There have been other methods that have cured aids in Africa. There was a report from a trusted source that said a minister had a cheap product that cured aids (that one was not MMS). He was using it in an orphanage for the children with aids--who's parents had died of aids. All the children treated with this product was cured. He began talking about the cures he was getting, and trying to set up a system to get more of the product, and then an American man who said he was sent from an American big pharmacy company showed up there to 'help' him. Within a week the minister disappeared. They found his car abandoned, but never found his body. There are all sorts of cures for everything out there that we are not allowed to know about. Samala, -------Original Message------- Why in africa they would not tell that the substance cured Aids, are they going to persecutate the nurse and the prisoners? the Sud african health minister 3 years ago during an international conference was claiming Aids can be treated by alternative medecine, she did not get any credit and she would have probably be glad to have this kind of testimonies in her pocket. --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 the product is called Flax Lignans www.flaxlignanhealth.com again there is no real documentation that I remember. From: <gaiacita@...>Subject: Re: [ ] Re: MMS1 + 2 cure Aids Malaria what about Hep and what about accurate and audited proofs Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 7:30 AM No, they did not persecute the nurse. She came back to the US but could only tell people of what happened, they didn't allow her to take any proof out, just like Jim says. They won't officially recognize the validity of MMS. There have been other methods that have cured aids in Africa. There was a report from a trusted source that said a minister had a cheap product that cured aids (that one was not MMS). He was using it in an orphanage for the children with aids--who's parents had died of aids. All the children treated with this product was cured. He began talking about the cures he was getting, and trying to set up a system to get more of the product, and then an American man who said he was sent from an American big pharmacy company showed up there to 'help' him. Within a week the minister disappeared. They found his car abandoned, but never found his body. There are all sorts of cures for everything out there that we are not allowed to know about. Samala, -------Original Message----- -- Why in africa they would not tell that the substance cured Aids, are they going to persecutate the nurse and the prisoners? the Sud african health minister 3 years ago during an international conference was claiming Aids can be treated by alternative medecine, she did not get any credit and she would have probably be glad to have this kind of testimonies in her pocket. --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 What is Bi-Chlor? [ ] Re: MMS1 + 2 cure Aids Malaria what about Hep and what about accurate and audited proofs DMSO with or without MMS is a known treatment of some type of cancers, used by alternative doctors. > > > > > > I also read in previous post MMS works for Hep but take longer, great> > > > > > but what is the source for your information, I would like to> > > > > > read more about it.> > > > > > > > > > Are you simply refusing to go read? Or would you rather take the word of> > > > > some random person on an email list?> > > > > > > > > > The links already provided provide as much in the way of answers as you> > > > > are likely to find.> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 just google flax lignans yes like flax oil except 100's stronger From: D. <parisd2002@...>Subject: [ ] Re: MMS1 + 2 cure Aids Malaria what about Hep and what about accurate and audited proofs Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 4:23 PM The link does not work, did you mean flax oil, curing Aids ?> > > From: <gaiacita@.. .>> Subject: Re: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] Re: MMS1 + 2 cure Aids Malaria what about Hep and what about accurate and audited proofs> miracle_mineral_ supplement> Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 7:30 AM> > >  > > > > > > > > > No, they did not persecute the nurse. She came back to the US but could only tell people of what happened, they didn't allow her to take any proof out, just like Jim says. They won't officially recognize the validity of MMS.>  > There have been other methods that have cured aids in Africa. There was a report from a trusted source that said a minister had a cheap product that cured aids (that one was not MMS). He was using it in an orphanage for the children with aids--who's parents had died of aids. All the children treated with this product was cured. >  > He began talking about the cures he was getting, and trying to set up a system to get more of the product, and then an American man who said he was sent from an American big pharmacy company showed up there to 'help' him. Within a week the minister disappeared. They found his car abandoned, but never found his body. >  > There are all sorts of cures for everything out there that we are not allowed to know about.>  > Samala,> >  >  >  > -------Original Message----- -->  > Why in africa they would not tell that the substance cured Aids, are they going to persecutate the nurse and the prisoners? the Sud african health minister 3 years ago during an international conference was claiming Aids can be treated by alternative medecine, she did not get any credit and she would have probably be glad to have this kind of testimonies in her pocket.>  > ---> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 I don't think you get the message. The FDA and Big Pharma, AMA, CDC, and all the other crimminal/medical conspiracy groups, WILL NOT with open arms want anything to do with a cheap under $100 product that can save/cure AIDS patients. They don't give a shit about them, all they want is more $$$$$$$$ being spent to keep them alive longer using their protocols, not MMS1 or MMS2. [ ] Re: MMS1 + 2 cure Aids Malaria what about Hep and what about accurate and audited proofs First I was told "try it yourself" now I am told "get volunters yourself", this is stupid, I am not here to claim that MMS works, I am here to ask for proof, Jim has done it (if what he wrote is true) but not in a way to convice others people than the ones that trust him blindly. He is in this MMS business since years he has to provide proofs, no one else.If thousands of people around the world could spread accurate results about the cure of the Jim 50 Aid patients it would easely reach the TV and newspaper media, it did not up to now because of the lack of credibility. Few years ago, one guy cured miraculously from Aids, he did go on TV, was mentionned in many TV news and was articles in all major newspapers in Europe and USA. The scientific world was extremely interested, imagine if we bring to the world 50 cases... So dont fall on me because I ask names of the 50 cured, start to be like me more exigeant instead and may be Jim will bring to us something more substantial.It is too easy to list douzain of deseases in ebooks and claim MMS cure them> > > > > I also read in previous post MMS works for Hep but take longer, great> > > > > but what is the source for your information, I would like to> > > > > read more about it.> > > > > > > > Are you simply refusing to go read? Or would you rather take the word of> > > > some random person on an email list?> > > > > > > > The links already provided provide as much in the way of answers as you> > > > are likely to find.> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 <shrug> everyone gets to believe what they want. That's what's so great about being human. :-) Samala, -------Original Message------- Agree with you about that above, but septicle that the Nurse or Jim could not carry with them outside of that African prison any proof of the Aids recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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