Re: MMS2 - Who is taking it?

[Guest guest]

I took MMS2 4 times a day with colloidal silver for awhile in October.

The result was a huge herx that lasted for a month. I am increasing the

dosage of both slower this time. I am up to colloidal silver twice a

day and MMS2 3 times. MMS1 causes me to herx at 4 drops. I've been

trying it on and off since October 2007. I'm not sure what I have, but

the symptoms are Lyme and its friends. I've been on salt/c since

December 2004. It helped about 25%. Anyway, MMS2 agrees with me more

than MMS1. I use 52% from Ace Hardware.

Carmen

Brad Andersen wrote:

> So,

>

> Who is actually taking MMS2? I have done two 1/4 capsules total and have

> stopped. I'm just not comfortable taking it. The 1/4 capsules caused some

> pretty good reactions, I can't imagine a whole capsule full of the stuff. I

> didn't die at 1/4 capsule. Is there anybody else out there taking full

> capsules, let alone 4 times a day, and are you still alive. My fear is this

> - www.miraclemineral.org and www.jimhumble.biz are not registered as being

> owned by the same people.

>

> I'd appreciate feedback,

> Brad

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wow it took me a year to reach 45 drops a day. Then completed the Aids protocol

on the mms2 page, now only maintenance. I tested western blot positive 4/05 I

think that is right. I was infected 1999 in Missouri. Was sick for years and

just kept getting sicker then finally a rash reoccurred in the same spot that

had been diagnosed as a spider bite the red flag went up and I got on the pc. My

doctor finally tested after I asked to be and I was positive, the treatments of

antibiotics for me were unsuccessful and very taxing yeast immunity ect. It is

not easy that's for sure I missed months of work very sick. You mentioned salts

I have found cell salts very helpful, in fact MMS1 is a mineral salt. I am

including a link for cell salts. Also if you are having urinary problems which I

did big time cream of tarter is very helpful. Cream of tartar is another salt.

http://www.elixirs.com/products/cell_salts.cfm

http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/learning/conquer-yeast-naturally.html

http://www.docsprefer.com/creamoftartar.html

> > So,

> >

> > Who is actually taking MMS2? I have done two 1/4 capsules total and have

> > stopped. I'm just not comfortable taking it. The 1/4 capsules caused some

> > pretty good reactions, I can't imagine a whole capsule full of the stuff. I

> > didn't die at 1/4 capsule. Is there anybody else out there taking full

> > capsules, let alone 4 times a day, and are you still alive. My fear is this

> > - www.miraclemineral.org and www.jimhumble.biz are not registered as being

> > owned by the same people.

> >

> > I'd appreciate feedback,

> > Brad

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

This link explains the principals of the cell salts and the cream of tartar.

Salt is a big player in healing however not table salt or sea salt but cell

salts for me. With that I include mms1 it is a mineral salt. MMS2 will help the

immune system as well.

http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/cellsalts.htm

> > > So,

> > >

> > > Who is actually taking MMS2? I have done two 1/4 capsules total and

have

> > > stopped. I'm just not comfortable taking it. The 1/4 capsules caused

some

> > > pretty good reactions, I can't imagine a whole capsule full of the stuff.

I

> > > didn't die at 1/4 capsule. Is there anybody else out there taking full

> > > capsules, let alone 4 times a day, and are you still alive. My fear is

this

> > > - www.miraclemineral.org and www.jimhumble.biz are not registered as being

> > > owned by the same people.

> > >

> > > I'd appreciate feedback,

> > > Brad

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I am out of here I was only simply sharing the healing properties I found for

lyme disease and one of the foremost is MMS. I am not going to continue this

Tans.

> >> " Without semantic precision, all you have is meaningless

> >> gobbledygook. "

>

> > That is just down right rude Tans.

>

> Really? Stating a simple fact of life is rude?

>

> So, you are saying that you can have a meaningful conversation without

> semantic precision?

>

> > I gave quotes from websites even Humble what are you the great MMS1

> > evaluator?

>

> No, I'm a humble (lol) seeker of truth.

>

> > I have seen nothing to show your " gobbledgook " .

>

> Your statement above is gobbledygook.

>

[Guest guest]

Tans THIS IS FROM MMS MEDICAL RESEARCH!!!!

MMS is generally used experimentally similar to other common tissue salts in

solution such as Nat.Phos., Nat.Mur., and Nat.Sulph. Of the four oxidative

therapies, ClO2 is the weakest oxydizing agent and as such is unable to harm

normal body cells.

http://mmsmedicalresearch.com/

> > It is the salt that produces the germicidal agent " chlorine dioxide. "

> > Sodium Chlorite is the primary ingredient in MMS.

>

> No - sodium chlorite is the unactivated *form* of MMS.

>

> Once it is activated it immediately converts to chlorous acid.

>

> Said another way, *it* *is* *no* *longer* *sodium* *chlorite*.

>

> So, are you now saying that sodium chlorite is the same thing as

> chlorous acid?

>

> I already agreed with you that if you only consider the unactivated form

> of MMS1, then yes, it is essentially a 'mineral salt'.

>

> You are refusing to acknowledge that people don't *ingest* sodium

> chlorite when taking MMS1, they ingest *chlorous acid*.

>

[Guest guest]

Cell salts appear to work by enabling the cells to better assimilate and utilize

the mineral com pounds they represent in homeopathic potency.

http://www.lightparty.com/Health/SaltOfEarth.html

> > > It is the salt that produces the germicidal agent " chlorine dioxide. "

> > > Sodium Chlorite is the primary ingredient in MMS.

> >

> > No - sodium chlorite is the unactivated *form* of MMS.

> >

> > Once it is activated it immediately converts to chlorous acid.

> >

> > Said another way, *it* *is* *no* *longer* *sodium* *chlorite*.

> >

> > So, are you now saying that sodium chlorite is the same thing as

> > chlorous acid?

> >

> > I already agreed with you that if you only consider the unactivated form

> > of MMS1, then yes, it is essentially a 'mineral salt'.

> >

> > You are refusing to acknowledge that people don't *ingest* sodium

> > chlorite when taking MMS1, they ingest *chlorous acid*.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Tony Thanks I think it is very informative the quote is from the site. Happy

new Year.

>

> Thanks healinghope,

>

> Very useful cite.

>

> OK,

> Tony

>

>

> On 31 Dec 2009 at 17:40, healinghope wrote about :

> Subject : [ ] Re: MM

>

> > Tans THIS IS FROM MMS MEDICAL RESEARCH!!!!

> > MMS is generally used experimentally similar to other common tissue salts

> > in solution such as Nat.Phos., Nat.Mur., and Nat.Sulph. Of the four

> > oxidative therapies, ClO2 is the weakest oxydizing agent and as such is

> > unable to harm normal body cells. http://mmsmedicalresearch.com/

> >

>

[Guest guest]

(forgive me if I'm posting incorrectly - trying to add on to the end of this

discussion.)

To everyone here - I love the discussions. I've mainly been reading since early

December, and have found a lot of encouraging info. (The forum format

drives me crazy - so I don't post much.)

Anyway, I decided to order some MMS2 in capsules, from, I think, the only online

supplier. I know I could go to my local pool supply, but decided that there

were so many brands, etc. that my best bet might be with someone who cared

enough to package it. (I could be very wrong - it's powdered not granular). My

package arrived Sat. from Thailand. I did a little emotional freak out, but

soon calmed down. I've been taking MMS1, every hour for 8 hours a day for about

4 days (2-5 drops) and was expecting a huge Herx, but that hasn't happened.

So, yesterday I decided to brave the MMS2. My fear was more in throwing it up

than anything else. So, Sunday morning - after dividing the one capsule into 4

capsules (yep, I'm a whimp) I drank at least 32 ounces of water and popped a

capsule. Nothing. An hour later, I continued my MMS1 for the rest of the day.

By evening I decided to brave another MMS2 dose and took two of my quarter dose

capsules. Still, nothing or should I say, No problem.

This morning, I started my day with a 3/4 dose of MMS2 and have been continuing

the MMS1 hourly. This evening I will go ahead with a full capsule of MMS2.

I am really surprised I am not in a horrible herx. I have Lyme, Babesia,

Candida and some other infections. I have been coiling for Babesia for 6

months, and Lyme since Oct. I'm imagining that my Babesia load was pretty low,

but I know my Lyme isn't. I can only coil Lyme for 2 minutes and then I herx

for two weeks.

My thought is that MMS1 or 2 may kill some active Lyme, but probably sends most

of into cyst or L-shape form and the MMS probably cannot kill it then. I'm just

hoping to get rid of coinfections using the MMS1/2 protocol. Then I'll

continuing coiling Lyme, and probably using MMS1/2 once a month to kill whatever

has come out of hiding.

I'm also surprised I'm not herxing from candida die off. I've only coiled a few

brief times for Candida, but herx horribly afterward.

I mainly, just wanted to let everyone know that there is yet, one more person

trying MMS2.

My only question is regarding water. I'm drinking a lot of it. I have a

filter, and I drink at least 8 oz with MMS1 and then 32 oz with MMS2. Is this

too much? Should I be drinking distilled water? Could the different naturally

occuring minerals in water, or one's own stomach ph, affect either MMS product?

I would think I should be feeling a bit better or be in a herx right now. I'm

concerned I'm not getting the effectiveness of the MMS.

The only other thing I do is, upon waking I take:

2 Trace Minerals Cal/Mag/Zinc tablets

1 teaspoon magnesium powder

1 teaspoon vitamin C powder

1 teaspoon D-ribose (Corvalen M)

1 teaspoon MsM

Thyroid and adrenal meds.

B12

All of this on an empty stomach and wait 2 hours before starting either MMS1 or

2.

I've thought about the vitamin C, but I think it gets absorbed pretty fast, and

if it counters the MMS1 it would only be the first two doses?

My best to you all in this new year.

L

> > What everyone needs to understand is, we are essentially playing with

> > a chemistry set. When mixing chemicals of this nature, how you mix

> > them or fail to mix them can be the difference between good health or

> > injury.

>

> Exactly...

>

> > I appreciate being corrected when I'm wrong. But then, I do not

> > offend easily..

>

> Heh... I'm glad I've always had alligator skin when it comes to

> participating in online discussions, otherwise I'm sure I'd have stopped

> participating a long time ago.

>