Re: Re: Advice from MMS1 elders and maybe MMS2 elders if there are any.

[Guest guest]

On 12/1/2009, (@...) wrote:

> Do we take 2 glasses before the capsule is taken and then maybe a sip

> from the last glass to down the capsule and then drink another glass

> after? Or should it be one glass before with some of its water to

> down the capsule and another glass after ingesting?

I strongloy recommend that you either read AND STUDY the official pages

describing how to use MMS, or DO NOT USE IT.

I don't mean to sound harsh, but the fact is, you can easily answer all

of your questions yourself by simply reading the MMS pages on Jims site.

Seriously - you can hurt yourself with this stuff if you aren't careful,

and ONLY YOU can be responsible for yourself.

That said, here is what it states on the previously referenced page/link:

" ... plus one size zero capsule of MMS2 taken every two hours for eight

hours per day - all done continuously for three weeks, then we submit

blood to the testing lab. Oh yes, at first drink 2 glasses of water with

the MMS2 capsule and then always one full glass of water thereafter with

each capsule. ... "

The above from: http://jimhumble.biz/biz-mms2intro-eng.htm

So, 2 full glasses of water WITH the first cap, one full glass WITH each

cap therafter.

> For clarification, within 8 hours with two hours apart, one capsule

> four times a day, is this correct?

Yes - again pretty clearly ascertained by reading the above linked page.

> Also what is the advantage of taking MMS1 vs. MMS2 or vice versa, are

> they both just as effective as stand alone?

READ... READ... READ... READ... READ... READ...

According to Jim, they work synergistically. He believes working

together they can actually cure things that MMS1 alone could only partly

control before (like Lyme) - but this is ALL PURE SPECULATION AND

EXPERIMENTATION.

[Guest guest]

On 12/3/2009 2:36 PM, Bond wrote:

> I have concerns about the interpretation of the amount of water needed.

> That wasn’t my interpretation at all about only taking 2 glasses for the

> first cap and changing for the remainder

> (http://mms-central.com/mms2dosage.htm).

Going to that link, it says quite plainly:

" MMS2 DOSAGE: For general use and taken without MMS1, Jim Humble

suggests starting with one capsule taken with ample water (two glasses

of water for the first capsule and then one glass of water thereafter) "

So, it says the same as what Jim recommended on his announcement page

(previously linked)...

> I think it should be 2 glasses before the cap, and one after it –

> every time.

You are free to have your own opinion, but this is contrary to the

recommendation on the page you yourself referenced.

Personally, I will trust Jims over yours (no offense).

> If your stomach has hydrochloric acid and you add calcium

> hypochlorite, the end result is calcium chloride (Ca(ClO)_2 + 4 HCl →

> CaCl_2 + 2 H_2 O + 2 Cl_2 ) which is not what we want at all. If

> there’s plenty of water in there waiting for it then you get the

> hypochlorous acid. Although it doesn’t specify in the above link, my

> interpretation was the water needs to be there first to receive the

> capsule, and the water afterwards was to wash down any rogue dust to

> make sure it doesn’t irritate the throat. I could be wrong of course,

> but that’s what I read between the lines.

Remember, the MMS2 is in a capsule. It takes a few minutes (at least)

for the capsule to dissolve, so if you drink the water as you are taking

the capsule, long before the capsule dissolves, the water is there

waiting for it.

[Guest guest]

I would be beneficial if people on this list would share their own experiences with MMS2.

1. What was the main purpose of taking it.

2. If it cured the diseases targeted.

3. How long was it taken before a cure could be established.

4. Did the disease returned at a later stage?

5. Where there any side effects.

For example with MMS1 as a personal example.

1. Gastritis, Diverticular, Gallbladder, Liver, Prostate inflamation, feeling tired.

2. It helped with Diverticular pain, gave me a boost of energy (seems to be to oxygen circulating in the blood), improved my skin texture, spots and the yellow colour in my palms disappeared.

It reduced my prostate symptoms but did not cure it,

4. Feeling some Gallbladder pain.

5. Yes, the chloric gas seem to have irritated my gastric tissue, causing stomach pains up to a point when I had to stop taking the solution. Maybe because of the gastritis issue.

During the first time I took it for about 44 days. When I had reached the 15 drop level I had to go back and reduce it gradually. Then I did a week pause and returned to it again for 3 weeks. When reaching the 8 drop I had to reduce it gradually until I stopped completely. It was intersting to note that during the second try, I took some homeophatic medicine for allergy. It helped for about a week, enabling me to to take the solution, but after that it stopped helping. This causes me to believe that the side effects are the result of gastritis and an allergy to the chloric gas. The same way as I get breathlessness when I go to a closed pool terated with chlor and become sensitive to the chloric gas.

It would aslo be interesting to get people share their experiences with MMS1.

Arie

From: KGR <kgrdoss@...>Subject: [ ] Re: Advice from MMS1 elders and maybe MMS2 elders if there are any. Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 6:31 AM

In my perception, every thing we talk about Cl2 or hypochlorous acid seems to be a matter of intelligent (Or unintelligent) speculation rather than well confirmed facts thro direct experimental evidences. It is quiet normal mode of operndi for scientists to dream and speculate and then prove or disprove thro experiments, and great discoveries have taken place thro this approach.The most important thing to remember is, irrespective of proportions of Cl2 or hypochlorous acid formed inside the stomach, MMS1 and MMS2 seems to free persons from deadly deseases.That is the bottomline.In Jim Humble's experience, he seems to have never come across any symptoms of toxicity of Cl2 and its reaction products so far.So, based on that, one is forced to to assume that no Cl2 is formed under the MMS protocols evolved by him; Or may be, the toxic acton of Cl2 is too insignificant when compared to detox action of hypochlorous acid.This needs to be verified by

appropriate tests, double blind trials etc. Until that time, one has to depend upon only on the available statistics of cures, testimonials and ones own experience.That s how the new science of MMS is evolving, each experimenter and each patient becomes a part of this evolution knowingly or unknowingly.>> I have concerns about the interpretation of the amount of water needed.> That wasn¡Çt my interpretation at all about only taking 2 glasses for the> first cap and changing for the remainder (http://mms-central. com/mms2dosage.> htm). I think it should be

2 glasses before the cap, and one after it -> every time. Since after 2 hours any water that was in your stomach will> have long gone. If your stomach has hydrochloric acid and you add calcium> hypochlorite, the end result is calcium chloride (Ca(ClO)2 + 4 HCl ¢ª CaCl2> + 2 H2O + 2 Cl2) which is not what we want at all. If there¡Çs plenty of> water in there waiting for it then you get the hypochlorous acid. Although> it doesn¡Çt specify in the above link, my interpretation was the water needs> to be there first to receive the capsule, and the water afterwards was to> wash down any rogue dust to make sure it doesn¡Çt irritate the throat. I> could be wrong of course, but that¡Çs what I read between the lines.> > > > Take care,> > >

[Guest guest]

On 12/4/2009, (@...) wrote:

> I seem to agree with here. Trans posted instruction " ...(two

> glasses of water for the first capsule and then one glass of water

> thereafter) "

>

> My interpretation of " thereafter " is after swallowing the pill and

> not subsequent dosing after a few hours.

Sorry, but reading it that way just does not make sense.

But of course, you are free to read it any way you want it.