Re: Advice from MMS1 elders and maybe MMS2 elders if there are any.

[Guest guest]

Hi Ari,

The new protocol is different...

First, Jim now believes that the activated MMS1 only last for a couple

of hours instead of 8-12, so he now recommends much smaller doses once

every hour (or 2 at most).

So, your new goal is to slowly work your way up to a max of 5 drops,

once every hour, for 8 hours (so, 8 times per day).

MMS you would take one capsule, once every 2 hours for the same 8 hour

period.

As always, you should adjust according to how well/badly you are

reacting. Slow down/reverse the number of drops if you start feeling

worse, increase every other dose if you feel ok.

Also, if the smell bothers you, you could take the MMS1 in capsules too.

The new protocol is described here:

http://jimhumble.biz/biz-mms2intro-eng.htm

On 11/30/2009, Arie Alon (maculeleh@...) wrote:

> I took the MMS1 solution twice. The first time for about 40 days and

> the second time for about 3 weeks. During the first time I reached

> the 15 drop level but had to go back, reducing the dosage back

> gradually, untill I reached the 3 drops level, due to strong stomach

> pain. Then I had to stop. After a week of rest I returned but could

> not pass the 8 drop level due to the same side effect and had to

> reduce it gradually again untill I stopped. I haven't taken it for

> about two months now and my stomach has recovered thanks to Aloe Vera

> gel juice and Brown Clay. MMS1 helped me with some problems but did

> not solve all. I believe that the chlor gas irritated my

> stomach/duodenum lining the same way as it irritates my lungs if I go

> swimming in a closed swimming pool. I may be allergic to it. My

> fatigue disapeared and I was much more energetic. It also helped with

> my diverticular pain. On the other hand, it made me wake up about two

> hours earlier, resulting in a lack of sleeping hours. The yellow

> coloring in the palms of my hands disapeared. In the meantime I'm

> taking a long break and will use it only on an emergency. Your

> comments, advice, personal experience will be appreciated.

>

> Regarding MMS2, what would the treatment protocol be, so I won't end

> up with a hole in my stomach as this seems to be very strong stuff.

> How much water with each capsule? Before or after meals? How many

> times a day and for how long? As any one had any experience with it?

> I couldn't find a protocol on Jim's site.

[Guest guest]

Hi Arie. Here is the link for the info on MMS2.

http://jimhumble.biz/biz-mms2intro-eng.htm

A capsule of MMS2 should be taken 4 times a day every 2 hours with 2 glasses of water, one while taking the capsule and the other after. Jim says it can be taken with MMS1 or taken alone for about 3 weeks for the HIV protocol, then to one a day (not too sure where I read this. Can also be taken with food. The water is very important. This is what activates it. As for my experience, I have been taking it for about 2 weeks with no ill effects, except when burping, which leave a really bad taste. Good luck. Orrilia

From: Arie Alon <maculeleh@...> Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 4:02:18 PMSubject: [ ] Advice from MMS1 elders and maybe MMS2 elders if there are any.

Hello Group,

I took the MMS1 solution twice. The first time for about 40 days and the second time for about 3 weeks.

During the first time I reached the 15 drop level but had to go back, reducing the dosage back gradually, untill I reached the 3 drops level, due to strong stomach pain. Then I had to stop. After a week of rest I returned but could not pass the 8 drop level due to the same side effect and had to reduce it gradually again untill I stopped. I haven't taken it for about two months now and my stomach has recovered thanks to Aloe Vera gel juice and Brown Clay.

MMS1 helped me with some problems but did not solve all.

I believe that the chlor gas irritated my stomach/duodenum lining the same way as it irritates my lungs if I go swimming in a closed swimming pool. I may be allergic to it.

My fatigue disapeared and I was much more energetic. It also helped with my diverticular pain. On the other hand, it made me wake up about two hours earlier, resulting in a lack of sleeping hours. The yellow coloring in the palms of my hands disapeared.

In the meantime I'm taking a long break and will use it only on an emergency.

Your comments, advice, personal experience will be appreciated.

Regarding MMS2, what would the treatment protocol be, so I won't end up with a hole in my stomach as this seems to be very strong stuff. How much water with each capsule? Before or after meals? How many times a day and for how long?

As any one had any experience with it?

I couldn't find a protocol on Jim's site.

Thank you.

Arie

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On 11/30/2009, jr orrilia (dallas6568@...) wrote:

> A capsule of MMS2 should be taken 4 times a day every 2 hours with 2

> glasses of water, one while taking the capsule and the other after.

2 glasses is only for the first capsule. For the next 3 capsules you

only need one full glass of water...

[Guest guest]

Is “full” at 8oz???

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Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009

5:44 PM

Subject: Re:

[ ] Advice from MMS1 elders and maybe MMS2 elders if

there are any.

On

11/30/2009, jr orrilia (dallas6568 )

wrote:

> A capsule of MMS2 should be taken 4 times a day every 2 hours with 2

> glasses of water, one while taking the capsule and the other after.

2 glasses is only for the first capsule. For the next 3 capsules you

only need one full glass of water...

[Guest guest]

On 11/30/2009, (blacksands@...) wrote:

> Is full at 8oz???

Yes.

[Guest guest]

Trans,

Do we take 2 glasses before the capsule is taken and then maybe a sip from the

last glass to down the capsule and then drink another glass after? Or should it

be one glass before with some of its water to down the capsule and another glass

after ingesting?

For clarification, within 8 hours with two hours apart, one capsule four times a

day, is this correct?

Also what is the advantage of taking MMS1 vs. MMS2 or vice versa, are they both

just as effective as stand alone?

Thanks.

melly

> > A capsule of MMS2 should be taken 4 times a day every 2 hours with 2

> > glasses of water, one while taking the capsule and the other after.

>

> 2 glasses is only for the first capsule. For the next 3 capsules you

> only need one full glass of water...

>

[Guest guest]

Trans,

Thanks for your reply. I've read the instructions many times, but just want

confirmation i am understanding it right.

> > Do we take 2 glasses before the capsule is taken and then maybe a sip

> > from the last glass to down the capsule and then drink another glass

> > after? Or should it be one glass before with some of its water to

> > down the capsule and another glass after ingesting?

>

> I strongloy recommend that you either read AND STUDY the official pages

> describing how to use MMS, or DO NOT USE IT.

>

> I don't mean to sound harsh, but the fact is, you can easily answer all

> of your questions yourself by simply reading the MMS pages on Jims site.

> Seriously - you can hurt yourself with this stuff if you aren't careful,

> and ONLY YOU can be responsible for yourself.

>

> That said, here is what it states on the previously referenced page/link:

>

> " ... plus one size zero capsule of MMS2 taken every two hours for eight

> hours per day - all done continuously for three weeks, then we submit

> blood to the testing lab. Oh yes, at first drink 2 glasses of water with

> the MMS2 capsule and then always one full glass of water thereafter with

> each capsule. ... "

>

> The above from: http://jimhumble.biz/biz-mms2intro-eng.htm

>

> So, 2 full glasses of water WITH the first cap, one full glass WITH each

> cap therafter.

>

> > For clarification, within 8 hours with two hours apart, one capsule

> > four times a day, is this correct?

>

> Yes - again pretty clearly ascertained by reading the above linked page.

>

> > Also what is the advantage of taking MMS1 vs. MMS2 or vice versa, are

> > they both just as effective as stand alone?

>

> READ... READ... READ... READ... READ... READ...

>

> According to Jim, they work synergistically. He believes working

> together they can actually cure things that MMS1 alone could only partly

> control before (like Lyme) - but this is ALL PURE SPECULATION AND

> EXPERIMENTATION.

>

[Guest guest]

I have concerns about the

interpretation of the amount of water needed. That wasn¡Çt my

interpretation at all about only taking 2 glasses for the first cap and

changing for the remainder (http://mms-central.com/mms2dosage.htm).

I think it should be 2 glasses before the cap, and one after it – every time.

Since after 2 hours any water that was in your stomach will have long gone.

If your stomach has hydrochloric acid and you add calcium hypochlorite, the end

result is calcium chloride (Ca(ClO)2

+ 4 HCl ¢ª CaCl2 + 2 H2O + 2 Cl2)

which is not what we want at all. If there¡Çs plenty of water in

there waiting for it then you get the hypochlorous acid. Although it

doesn¡Çt specify in the above link, my interpretation was the water needs

to be there first to receive the capsule, and the water afterwards was to wash

down any rogue dust to make sure it doesn¡Çt irritate the throat. I could

be wrong of course, but that¡Çs what I read between the lines.

Take care,

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[Guest guest]

In my perception, every thing we talk about Cl2 or hypochlorous acid seems to be

a matter of intelligent (Or unintelligent) speculation rather than well

confirmed facts thro direct experimental evidences. It is quiet normal mode of

operndi for scientists to dream and speculate and then prove or disprove thro

experiments,and great discoveries have taken place thro this approach.The most

important thing to remember is, irrespective of proportions of Cl2 or

hypochlorous acid formed inside the stomach, MMS1 and MMS2 seems to free persons

from deadly deseases.That is the bottomline.In Jim Humble's experience, he seems

to have never come across any symptoms of toxicity of Cl2 and its reaction

products so far.So, based on that, one is forced to to assume that no Cl2 is

formed under the MMS protocols evolved by him; Or may be, the toxic acton of Cl2

is too insignificant when compared to detox action of hypochlorous acid.

This needs to be verified by appropriate tests, double blind trials etc. Until

that time, one has to depend upon only on the available statistics of cures,

testimonials and ones own experience.That s how the new science of MMS is

evolving, each experimenter and each patient becomes a part of this evolution

knowingly or unknowingly.

--- In , " Bond " <pmbond@...>

wrote:

>

> I have concerns about the interpretation of the amount of water needed.

> That wasn¡Çt my interpretation at all about only taking 2 glasses for the

> first cap and changing for the remainder (http://mms-central.com/mms2dosage.

> htm). I think it should be 2 glasses before the cap, and one after it -

> every time. Since after 2 hours any water that was in your stomach will

> have long gone. If your stomach has hydrochloric acid and you add calcium

> hypochlorite, the end result is calcium chloride (Ca(ClO)2 + 4 HCl ¢ª CaCl2

> + 2 H2O + 2 Cl2) which is not what we want at all. If there¡Çs plenty of

> water in there waiting for it then you get the hypochlorous acid. Although

> it doesn¡Çt specify in the above link, my interpretation was the water needs

> to be there first to receive the capsule, and the water afterwards was to

> wash down any rogue dust to make sure it doesn¡Çt irritate the throat. I

> could be wrong of course, but that¡Çs what I read between the lines.

>

>

>

> Take care,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I seem to agree with here. Trans posted instruction " ...(two glasses of

water for the first capsule and then one glass of water thereafter) "

My interpretation of " thereafter " is after swallowing the pill and not

subsequent dosing after a few hours.

> > I have concerns about the interpretation of the amount of water needed.

> > That wasn’t my interpretation at all about only taking 2 glasses for the

> > first cap and changing for the remainder

> > (http://mms-central.com/mms2dosage.htm).

>

> Going to that link, it says quite plainly:

>

> " MMS2 DOSAGE: For general use and taken without MMS1, Jim Humble

> suggests starting with one capsule taken with ample water (two glasses

> of water for the first capsule and then one glass of water thereafter) "

>

> So, it says the same as what Jim recommended on his announcement page

> (previously linked)...

>

> > I think it should be 2 glasses before the cap, and one after it †"

> > every time.

>

> You are free to have your own opinion, but this is contrary to the

> recommendation on the page you yourself referenced.

>

> Personally, I will trust Jims over yours (no offense).

>

> > If your stomach has hydrochloric acid and you add calcium

> > hypochlorite, the end result is calcium chloride (Ca(ClO)_2 + 4 HCl â†'

> > CaCl_2 + 2 H_2 O + 2 Cl_2 ) which is not what we want at all. If

> > there’s plenty of water in there waiting for it then you get the

> > hypochlorous acid. Although it doesn’t specify in the above link, my

> > interpretation was the water needs to be there first to receive the

> > capsule, and the water afterwards was to wash down any rogue dust to

> > make sure it doesn’t irritate the throat. I could be wrong of course,

> > but that’s what I read between the lines.

>

> Remember, the MMS2 is in a capsule. It takes a few minutes (at least)

> for the capsule to dissolve, so if you drink the water as you are taking

> the capsule, long before the capsule dissolves, the water is there

> waiting for it.

>