Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Hi Gordon,After you mixed it with water, did you then mix it with something that would be the same Ph of stomach acid? I think this is the tricky part, because we all make different amounts of stomach acid and bile. Do you feel that it would not be effective or is it just named incorrectly? On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:24 PM, gordon_winson <gorcdon_winson@...> wrote: When activated with water MMS2 is said to be hypochlorous acid. I have done the test many times, when mixed with water MMS2 has a Ph of 10 and higher. So it cant be an acid, it must be called an alkaline. (Hypochlorous Alkaline) would be more correct. Gordon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 The test I did was as follows. Take a capsule of MMS2 open the capsule and disolve it in a glass of water. Then measure the Ph of the liquid in the glass. It will read Ph 10 and higher. Therefore in cannot be an acid. --- In , H <40dayjourney@...> wrote: > > Hi Gordon, > > After you mixed it with water, did you then mix it with something that would > be the same Ph of stomach acid? I think this is the tricky part, because we > all make different amounts of stomach acid and bile. Do you feel that it > would not be effective or is it just named incorrectly? > > > > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:24 PM, gordon_winson <gorcdon_winson@...>wrote: > > > > > > > When activated with water MMS2 is said to be hypochlorous acid. > > I have done the test many times, when mixed with water MMS2 has a Ph of 10 > > and higher. So it cant be an acid, it must be called an alkaline. > > (Hypochlorous Alkaline) would be more correct. > > Gordon > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Gordon,I'm not sure you understood my question - or maybe my Lyme brain didn't ask it correctly.If you simply mix MMS2 with water, the water would not be the same pH as it would be in the stomach. So you'd have to dissolve the MMS2 in water that also contained bile, stomach acids, etc. Then I'm thinking you'd have a correct measure. Do you not think stomach pH would effect the final outcome?A question along this line that I have, is how do different stomach pH's as well as different water pH's effect the final results. It sure seems from one municipality to another that the chlorine content can sure vary. And then there is well water; some is very hard some is soft. Will this effect it. I do know that it's killing bugs, 'cause I'm herxing like crazy.Just wondering,On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 10:45 PM, gordon_winson <gordon_winson@...> wrote: The test I did was as follows. Take a capsule of MMS2 open the capsule and disolve it in a glass of water. Then measure the Ph of the liquid in the glass. It will read Ph 10 and higher. Therefore in cannot be an acid. > > Hi Gordon, > > After you mixed it with water, did you then mix it with something that would > be the same Ph of stomach acid? I think this is the tricky part, because we > all make different amounts of stomach acid and bile. Do you feel that it > would not be effective or is it just named incorrectly? > > > > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:24 PM, gordon_winson <gorcdon_winson@...>wrote: > > > > > > > When activated with water MMS2 is said to be hypochlorous acid. > > I have done the test many times, when mixed with water MMS2 has a Ph of 10 > > and higher. So it cant be an acid, it must be called an alkaline. > > (Hypochlorous Alkaline) would be more correct. > > Gordon > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 > > The test I did was as follows. > Take a capsule of MMS2 open the capsule and disolve it in a glass of water. Then measure the Ph of the liquid in the glass. > It will read Ph 10 and higher. Therefore in cannot be an acid. You are absolutely right. Whenever the pH is above 7,any solution including Calcium Hypochlorite [Ca(ClO)2 ] solution is necessarily alkaline.It needs to be neutralized (activated) by acid (or highly diluted so that pH moves down from 11 to about 7.5) for liberating Hypochlorous acid [HOCl]. Generally,most of HOCL is liberated by stomach acids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Supporting KGR and his writings. http://www.medicleanatoz.com/mfaq/MFAQ.htm > > > > The test I did was as follows. > > Take a capsule of MMS2 open the capsule and disolve it in a glass of water. Then measure the Ph of the liquid in the glass. > > It will read Ph 10 and higher. Therefore in cannot be an acid. > > > You are absolutely right. Whenever the pH is above 7,any solution including Calcium Hypochlorite [Ca(ClO)2 ] solution is necessarily alkaline.It needs to be neutralized (activated) by acid (or highly diluted so that pH moves down from 11 to about 7.5) for liberating Hypochlorous acid [HOCl]. Generally,most of HOCL is liberated by stomach acids. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Everyone talks about pH. Besides water and wastewater operators, gardeners, swimming-pool caretakers, and cosmetologists all are concerned with pH. But does everyone really understand what pH is? The capital " H " in " pH " stands for the element hydrogen. The small " p " stands for " the power of, " and together the two letters are short for " the negative logarithm of the hydrogen-ion concentration. " Alternatively, the formula is written as follows: pH = -log[H+] Essentially, the pH of a substance--whether water, soil, or anything else--is the relative concentrations of two types of hydrogen ions. If the positive hydrogen ions, called cations, outnumber the negative hydrogen ions, called anions, the substance is said to be acidic. If the anions outnumber the cations, the substance is said to be basic. (Some people call substances with a high pH " alkaline, " but it's more accurate to say " basic. " Alkaline refers to alkalinity, which is actually the measure of a substance's ability to absorb an acid, not its pH.) If the anions and cations are equal to each other, the pH is said to he neutral. The scale of measurement for pH goes from 0 to 14, with 0 being most acidic and 14 being most basic. Neutral pH is 7, right in the middle. Something with a pH of 3 is not " one time more acidic " than something with a pH of 4. The scale is exponential: Something with a pH of 3 is 10 times more acidic than something with a pH of 4. Things that are acidic include battery acid (sulfuric acid), carbonated beverages, and the inside of the human stomach. Things that are basic include lye soap and detergents. Finally, it should be noted that while most people know that something very acidic is dangerous, something that is very basic is just as dangerous. Caustic soda, a chemical that is very basic, is just as dangerous as battery acid. In drinking water, pH is important for two reasons: treatment and corrosion control. Most treatment methods are affected by pH. Aluminum sulfate, for example, works best in a pH range of about 6.7 to 7.0. Hypochlorous acid, which is the active disinfectant created with chlorine gas, works better in acidic situations. Likewise, some treatment methods alter the pH. Chlorine gas tends to make water more acidic. The addition of any acid, surprisingly, tends to lower the acidity. At the other end of the spectrum, lime softening can raise the pH well above 8. http://www.questia.com/googleScholar.qst;jsessionid=LRHBB07lJ15GdzyFYFTGbZ0GT5Nk\ 2L2G22Dy8XT8nQjPbq20GlgN!-476999182!351573012?docId=5002512873 > > > > The test I did was as follows. > > Take a capsule of MMS2 open the capsule and disolve it in a glass of water. Then measure the Ph of the liquid in the glass. > > It will read Ph 10 and higher. Therefore in cannot be an acid. > > > You are absolutely right. Whenever the pH is above 7,any solution including Calcium Hypochlorite [Ca(ClO)2 ] solution is necessarily alkaline.It needs to be neutralized (activated) by acid (or highly diluted so that pH moves down from 11 to about 7.5) for liberating Hypochlorous acid [HOCl]. Generally,most of HOCL is liberated by stomach acids. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 The stomach has a ph(1.5-2) raw lemon juice is at the same acidic level as our stomach, add a squeeze of lemon juice to the glass and test the ph after. On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 4:17 am, KGR wrote: > >> >> The test I did was as follows. >> Take a capsule of MMS2 open the capsule and disolve it in a glass of >> water. Then measure the Ph of the liquid in the glass. >> It will read Ph 10 and higher. Therefore in cannot be an acid. > > You are absolutely right. Whenever the pH is above 7,any solution > including Calcium Hypochlorite [Ca(ClO)2 ] solution is necessarily > alkaline.It needs to be neutralized (activated) by acid (or highly > diluted so that pH moves down from 11 to about 7.5) for liberating > Hypochlorous acid [HOCl]. Generally,most of HOCL is liberated by > stomach acids. > > Android Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Based on this, it sounds like this is a situation where you would NOT want to take the MMS2 with alkalinized water? Just take it with regular water? If a person has low stomach acid, would the MMS2 be enhanced even more if you took a capsule of Betaine HCI along with it? On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 4:17 AM, KGR <kgrdoss@...> wrote: > > The test I did was as follows. > Take a capsule of MMS2 open the capsule and disolve it in a glass of water. Then measure the Ph of the liquid in the glass. > It will read Ph 10 and higher. Therefore in cannot be an acid. You are absolutely right. Whenever the pH is above 7,any solution including Calcium Hypochlorite [Ca(ClO)2 ] solution is necessarily alkaline.It needs to be neutralized (activated) by acid (or highly diluted so that pH moves down from 11 to about 7.5) for liberating Hypochlorous acid [HOCl]. Generally,most of HOCL is liberated by stomach acids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 --- In , H <40dayjourney@...> wrote: > > Based on this, it sounds like this is a situation where you would NOT want > to take the MMS2 with alkalinized water? Just take it with regular water? Thats right. Your logic is very correct and excellent. > If a person has low stomach acid, would the MMS2 be enhanced even more if > you took a capsule of Betaine HCI along with it? > > > > It is very tricky situation, if one's stomach acid is low. You may not know how much acidic ingredients need to be added to make up for the shortage. But, the wisdom of Jim,getting MMS2 in size 0 capsule appears to takes care of this deficiency, At this quantity probably, the smallest quantity of stomach acid should be sufficient to complete conversion of MMS2 to HOCl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Ok, thank you! :-)On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM, KGR <kgrdoss@...> wrote: > > Based on this, it sounds like this is a situation where you would NOT want > to take the MMS2 with alkalinized water? Just take it with regular water? Thats right. Your logic is very correct and excellent. > If a person has low stomach acid, would the MMS2 be enhanced even more if > you took a capsule of Betaine HCI along with it? > > > > It is very tricky situation, if one's stomach acid is low. You may not know how much acidic ingredients need to be added to make up for the shortage. But, the wisdom of Jim,getting MMS2 in size 0 capsule appears to takes care of this deficiency, At this quantity probably, the smallest quantity of stomach acid should be sufficient to complete conversion of MMS2 to HOCl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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