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Hi Gordon,After you mixed it with water, did you then mix it with something that would be the same Ph of stomach acid?  I think this is the tricky part, because we all make different amounts of stomach acid and bile.  Do you feel that it would not be effective or is it just named incorrectly?

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:24 PM, gordon_winson <gorcdon_winson@...> wrote:

 

When activated with water MMS2 is said to be hypochlorous acid.

I have done the test many times, when mixed with water MMS2 has a Ph of 10 and higher. So it cant be an acid, it must be called an alkaline.

(Hypochlorous Alkaline) would be more correct.

Gordon

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The test I did was as follows.

Take a capsule of MMS2 open the capsule and disolve it in a glass of water. Then

measure the Ph of the liquid in the glass.

It will read Ph 10 and higher. Therefore in cannot be an acid.

--- In , H <40dayjourney@...>

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> Hi Gordon,

>

> After you mixed it with water, did you then mix it with something that would

> be the same Ph of stomach acid? I think this is the tricky part, because we

> all make different amounts of stomach acid and bile. Do you feel that it

> would not be effective or is it just named incorrectly?

>

>

>

>

> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:24 PM, gordon_winson <gorcdon_winson@...>wrote:

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> >

> >

> > When activated with water MMS2 is said to be hypochlorous acid.

> > I have done the test many times, when mixed with water MMS2 has a Ph of 10

> > and higher. So it cant be an acid, it must be called an alkaline.

> > (Hypochlorous Alkaline) would be more correct.

> > Gordon

> >

> >

> >

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Gordon,I'm not sure you understood my question - or maybe my Lyme brain didn't ask it correctly.If you simply mix MMS2 with water, the water would not be the same pH as it would be in the stomach.  So you'd have to dissolve the MMS2 in water that also contained bile, stomach acids, etc.  Then I'm thinking you'd have a correct measure.

Do you not think stomach pH would effect the final outcome?A question along this line that I have, is how do different stomach pH's as well as different water pH's effect the final results.  It sure seems from one municipality to another that the chlorine content can sure vary.  And then there is well water; some is very hard some is soft.  Will this effect it.

I do know that it's killing bugs, 'cause I'm herxing like crazy.Just wondering,On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 10:45 PM, gordon_winson <gordon_winson@...> wrote:

 

The test I did was as follows.

Take a capsule of MMS2 open the capsule and disolve it in a glass of water. Then measure the Ph of the liquid in the glass.

It will read Ph 10 and higher. Therefore in cannot be an acid.

>

> Hi Gordon,

>

> After you mixed it with water, did you then mix it with something that would

> be the same Ph of stomach acid? I think this is the tricky part, because we

> all make different amounts of stomach acid and bile. Do you feel that it

> would not be effective or is it just named incorrectly?

>

>

>

>

> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:24 PM, gordon_winson <gorcdon_winson@...>wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > When activated with water MMS2 is said to be hypochlorous acid.

> > I have done the test many times, when mixed with water MMS2 has a Ph of 10

> > and higher. So it cant be an acid, it must be called an alkaline.

> > (Hypochlorous Alkaline) would be more correct.

> > Gordon

> >

> >

> >

>

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> The test I did was as follows.

> Take a capsule of MMS2 open the capsule and disolve it in a glass of water.

Then measure the Ph of the liquid in the glass.

> It will read Ph 10 and higher. Therefore in cannot be an acid.

You are absolutely right. Whenever the pH is above 7,any solution including

Calcium Hypochlorite [Ca(ClO)2 ] solution is necessarily alkaline.It needs to

be neutralized (activated) by acid (or highly diluted so that pH moves down from

11 to about 7.5) for liberating Hypochlorous acid [HOCl]. Generally,most of HOCL

is liberated by stomach acids.

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Supporting KGR and his writings.

http://www.medicleanatoz.com/mfaq/MFAQ.htm

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> > The test I did was as follows.

> > Take a capsule of MMS2 open the capsule and disolve it in a glass of water.

Then measure the Ph of the liquid in the glass.

> > It will read Ph 10 and higher. Therefore in cannot be an acid.

>

>

> You are absolutely right. Whenever the pH is above 7,any solution including

Calcium Hypochlorite [Ca(ClO)2 ] solution is necessarily alkaline.It needs to

be neutralized (activated) by acid (or highly diluted so that pH moves down from

11 to about 7.5) for liberating Hypochlorous acid [HOCl]. Generally,most of HOCL

is liberated by stomach acids.

>

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Everyone talks about pH. Besides water and wastewater operators, gardeners,

swimming-pool caretakers, and cosmetologists all are concerned with pH. But does

everyone really understand what pH is?

The capital " H " in " pH " stands for the element hydrogen. The small " p " stands

for " the power of, " and together the two letters are short for " the negative

logarithm of the hydrogen-ion concentration. " Alternatively, the formula is

written as follows:

pH = -log[H+]

Essentially, the pH of a substance--whether water, soil, or anything else--is

the relative concentrations of two types of hydrogen ions. If the positive

hydrogen ions, called cations, outnumber the negative hydrogen ions, called

anions, the substance is said to be acidic. If the anions outnumber the cations,

the substance is said to be basic. (Some people call substances with a high pH

" alkaline, " but it's more accurate to say " basic. " Alkaline refers to

alkalinity, which is actually the measure of a substance's ability to absorb an

acid, not its pH.) If the anions and cations are equal to each other, the pH is

said to he neutral.

The scale of measurement for pH goes from 0 to 14, with 0 being most acidic and

14 being most basic. Neutral pH is 7, right in the middle. Something with a pH

of 3 is not " one time more acidic " than something with a pH of 4. The scale is

exponential: Something with a pH of 3 is 10 times more acidic than something

with a pH of 4. Things that are acidic include battery acid (sulfuric acid),

carbonated beverages, and the inside of the human stomach. Things that are basic

include lye soap and detergents. Finally, it should be noted that while most

people know that something very acidic is dangerous, something that is very

basic is just as dangerous. Caustic soda, a chemical that is very basic, is just

as dangerous as battery acid.

In drinking water, pH is important for two reasons: treatment and corrosion

control. Most treatment methods are affected by pH. Aluminum sulfate, for

example, works best in a pH range of about 6.7 to 7.0. Hypochlorous acid, which

is the active disinfectant created with chlorine gas, works better in acidic

situations. Likewise, some treatment methods alter the pH. Chlorine gas tends to

make water more acidic. The addition of any acid, surprisingly, tends to lower

the acidity. At the other end of the spectrum, lime softening can raise the pH

well above 8.

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> > The test I did was as follows.

> > Take a capsule of MMS2 open the capsule and disolve it in a glass of water.

Then measure the Ph of the liquid in the glass.

> > It will read Ph 10 and higher. Therefore in cannot be an acid.

>

>

> You are absolutely right. Whenever the pH is above 7,any solution including

Calcium Hypochlorite [Ca(ClO)2 ] solution is necessarily alkaline.It needs to

be neutralized (activated) by acid (or highly diluted so that pH moves down from

11 to about 7.5) for liberating Hypochlorous acid [HOCl]. Generally,most of HOCL

is liberated by stomach acids.

>

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The stomach has a ph(1.5-2) raw lemon juice is at the same acidic level

as our stomach, add a squeeze of lemon juice to the glass and test the

ph after.

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 4:17 am, KGR wrote:

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>>

>> The test I did was as follows.

>> Take a capsule of MMS2 open the capsule and disolve it in a glass of

>> water. Then measure the Ph of the liquid in the glass.

>> It will read Ph 10 and higher. Therefore in cannot be an acid.

>

> You are absolutely right. Whenever the pH is above 7,any solution

> including Calcium Hypochlorite [Ca(ClO)2 ] solution is necessarily

> alkaline.It needs to be neutralized (activated) by acid (or highly

> diluted so that pH moves down from 11 to about 7.5) for liberating

> Hypochlorous acid [HOCl]. Generally,most of HOCL is liberated by

> stomach acids.

>

>

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Based on this, it sounds like this is a situation where you would NOT want to take the MMS2 with alkalinized water? Just take it with regular water?  If a person has low stomach acid, would the MMS2 be enhanced even more if you took a capsule of Betaine HCI along with it?

On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 4:17 AM, KGR <kgrdoss@...> wrote:

 

>

> The test I did was as follows.

> Take a capsule of MMS2 open the capsule and disolve it in a glass of water. Then measure the Ph of the liquid in the glass.

> It will read Ph 10 and higher. Therefore in cannot be an acid.

You are absolutely right. Whenever the pH is above 7,any solution including Calcium Hypochlorite [Ca(ClO)2 ] solution is necessarily alkaline.It needs to be neutralized (activated) by acid (or highly diluted so that pH moves down from 11 to about 7.5) for liberating Hypochlorous acid [HOCl]. Generally,most of HOCL is liberated by stomach acids.

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--- In , H <40dayjourney@...>

wrote:

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> Based on this, it sounds like this is a situation where you would NOT want

> to take the MMS2 with alkalinized water? Just take it with regular water?

Thats right. Your logic is very correct and excellent.

> If a person has low stomach acid, would the MMS2 be enhanced even more if

> you took a capsule of Betaine HCI along with it?

>

>

>

>

It is very tricky situation, if one's stomach acid is low. You may not know how

much acidic ingredients need to be added to make up for the shortage. But, the

wisdom of Jim,getting MMS2 in size 0 capsule appears to takes care of this

deficiency, At this quantity probably, the smallest quantity of stomach acid

should be sufficient to complete conversion of MMS2 to HOCl.

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Ok, thank you! :-)On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM, KGR <kgrdoss@...> wrote:

 

>

> Based on this, it sounds like this is a situation where you would NOT want

> to take the MMS2 with alkalinized water? Just take it with regular water?

Thats right. Your logic is very correct and excellent.

> If a person has low stomach acid, would the MMS2 be enhanced even more if

> you took a capsule of Betaine HCI along with it?

>

>

>

>

It is very tricky situation, if one's stomach acid is low. You may not know how much acidic ingredients need to be added to make up for the shortage. But, the wisdom of Jim,getting MMS2 in size 0 capsule appears to takes care of this deficiency, At this quantity probably, the smallest quantity of stomach acid should be sufficient to complete conversion of MMS2 to HOCl.

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