Guest guest Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 In addition to Milk Thistle, Liv52 (now called something, but my label fell off) is supposed to be a wonderful product for liver support. Has any one done the Hulda liver cleanse? This might be good once in a while. Also, my ND told me to take castor oil and saturate a cotton cloth, put this cloth over your liver and then cover with a heating pack for an hour or more. ly, I thought she was crazy, but I tried it one day. I didn't feel much difference, but the next day my BM was almost black - sooooo I'm thinking it helped. The only thing I've noticed is my eyes get really blood shot by late evening. This also happens when I coil for Lyme. I've read that Lyme loves to live in the eyes, so this makes sense. As far as my vision goes, it's pretty good in the morning, and as my herx increases throughout the day my vision gets worse. It's always better the next morning when my herx is down. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:19 AM, DianeS <dsomerstn@...> wrote: Good post! > > > Have any of you paid attention to changes in certain body parts? > > Tongue color - my tongue has a much thicker white layer than before - probably helicobacter die off. > Eyes - no change. > Hand palm color - turned white from yellow. > Skin- slighty ulcerated sunspots are almost disapearing. > > Internal organs > Liver - slight pain near the gallbladder area. > > Fatigue - improvement during the day. > I wake earlier than usual - less hours sleep - but don't feel tired. > > Bioresonance test showed that stomach situation is much better than last exam in July 2009 contrary to my belief that MMS was causing damages to my stomach. > But Liver and Kidney channels are worst. Maybe because of liver & Kidney detoxing. > Therefore I believe that I must slow down on the number of daily drops. Or stop for a while. > > I started taking now Milk Thistle for kidney support. > > + frozen wheatgrass and multi-minerals. > > I believe it is very important not to put to much pressure on the Liver and Kidney. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 I'm sure you know that Dr has her own website that clearly details all of her protocols, including the liver flush. When I consulted my alternative physician about doing the liver cleanse, she said "I don't know why you would want to make yourself that sick and miserable"....so I did not....there are other, gentler ways to detox....milk thistle is a good start....as is cleaning up your diet of processed foods/chemically treated foods....adding in good fats....lots of greens. You must choose what you think best. From: H <40dayjourney@...> Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 3:41:01 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Re: MMS1 body signs In addition to Milk Thistle, Liv52 (now called something, but my label fell off) is supposed to be a wonderful product for liver support. Has any one done the Hulda liver cleanse? This might be good once in a while. Also, my ND told me to take castor oil and saturate a cotton cloth, put this cloth over your liver and then cover with a heating pack for an hour or more. ly, I thought she was crazy, but I tried it one day. I didn't feel much difference, but the next day my BM was almost black - sooooo I'm thinking it helped.The only thing I've noticed is my eyes get really blood shot by late evening. This also happens when I coil for Lyme. I've read that Lyme loves to live in the eyes, so this makes sense. As far as my vision goes, it's pretty good in the morning, and as my herx increases throughout the day my vision gets worse. It's always better the next morning when my herx is down. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:19 AM, DianeS <dsomerstn (DOT) com> wrote: Good post! >> > Have any of you paid attention to changes in certain body parts?> > Tongue color - my tongue has a much thicker white layer than before - probably helicobacter die off.> Eyes - no change.> Hand palm color - turned white from yellow.> Skin- slighty ulcerated sunspots are almost disapearing.> > Internal organs> Liver - slight pain near the gallbladder area.> > Fatigue - improvement during the day.> I wake earlier than usual - less hours sleep - but don't feel tired.> > Bioresonance test showed that stomach situation is much better than last exam in July 2009 contrary to my belief that MMS was causing damages to my stomach.> But Liver and Kidney channels are worst. Maybe because of liver & Kidney detoxing.> Therefore I believe that I must slow down on the number of daily drops. Or stop for a while.> > I started taking now Milk Thistle for kidney support.> > + frozen wheatgrass and multi-minerals.> > I believe it is very important not to put to much pressure on the Liver and Kidney.> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Yeah, juicing organic greens.On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Judi Wallace <blueyes5724@...> wrote: I'm sure you know that Dr has her own website that clearly details all of her protocols, including the liver flush. When I consulted my alternative physician about doing the liver cleanse, she said " I don't know why you would want to make yourself that sick and miserable " ....so I did not....there are other, gentler ways to detox....milk thistle is a good start....as is cleaning up your diet of processed foods/chemically treated foods....adding in good fats....lots of greens. You must choose what you think best. From: H <40dayjourney@...> Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 3:41:01 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Re: MMS1 body signs In addition to Milk Thistle, Liv52 (now called something, but my label fell off) is supposed to be a wonderful product for liver support. Has any one done the Hulda liver cleanse? This might be good once in a while. Also, my ND told me to take castor oil and saturate a cotton cloth, put this cloth over your liver and then cover with a heating pack for an hour or more. ly, I thought she was crazy, but I tried it one day. I didn't feel much difference, but the next day my BM was almost black - sooooo I'm thinking it helped. The only thing I've noticed is my eyes get really blood shot by late evening. This also happens when I coil for Lyme. I've read that Lyme loves to live in the eyes, so this makes sense. As far as my vision goes, it's pretty good in the morning, and as my herx increases throughout the day my vision gets worse. It's always better the next morning when my herx is down. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:19 AM, DianeS <dsomerstn (DOT) com> wrote: Good post! >> > Have any of you paid attention to changes in certain body parts?> > Tongue color - my tongue has a much thicker white layer than before - probably helicobacter die off.> Eyes - no change.> Hand palm color - turned white from yellow. > Skin- slighty ulcerated sunspots are almost disapearing.> > Internal organs> Liver - slight pain near the gallbladder area.> > Fatigue - improvement during the day.> I wake earlier than usual - less hours sleep - but don't feel tired. > > Bioresonance test showed that stomach situation is much better than last exam in July 2009 contrary to my belief that MMS was causing damages to my stomach.> But Liver and Kidney channels are worst. Maybe because of liver & Kidney detoxing.> Therefore I believe that I must slow down on the number of daily drops. Or stop for a while. > > I started taking now Milk Thistle for kidney support.> > + frozen wheatgrass and multi-minerals.> > I believe it is very important not to put to much pressure on the Liver and Kidney. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 I did Hulda 's liver cleanse about 4 years ago once a month for six months. Then a year later I repeated the same procedure. Then it was not necessary any more. But I should have done the maintenance flushes, which I didn't. Now about a month ago did another one. Two days later the liver pain returned. Maybe due to some liver/gallbladder inflamation. So I decided to return to MMS, which I had stopped due to stomach pain. Now the MMS is going well at smaller doses 3 x day. Someone in another group (curezone - I'm just reading there) put food colour in the olive oil. When the liver stones came out, after putting them in the sun for a while, they became red tainted. So it can be concluded that these green stones do not come from the liver/gallbladder, but are formed with the combination of bile/oilive oil/grapefruit/epson salts. The fush can bring out crystalized stones if you have them. But this was not my case, as only the green type appeared and they would have been seen in an ultrasound check. In my case I believe that there is a problem with the gallbladder's sphincter that is not contracting properly and causing some stagnation. I believe that liver flushes are always beneficial if you have stones or not. But don't exagerate. Too much epson salts are not good for the body. Someone recommended me to take a tablespoon of olive oil with a tablespoon of lemon and a teaspoon of honey, by mixing it and then drinking it, mornings and evenings before taking food. I think I will try this. I heard this is an old grandmother's recipe that you can take forever and is much easier on the body than the liver flush. It also seems very logical. In addition to Milk Thistle for the liver I'm taking also Curcumin extract capsules. There's also an homeophatic remedy from Heel called Heepheel. I will try the castor oil procedure during the weekend. I believe that heating up a seed pillow in the microwave for two minutes will have the same effect than a water bottle. Good post! >> > Have any of you paid attention to changes in certain body parts?> > Tongue color - my tongue has a much thicker white layer than before - probably helicobacter die off.> Eyes - no change.> Hand palm color - turned white from yellow.> Skin- slighty ulcerated sunspots are almost disapearing.> > Internal organs> Liver - slight pain near the gallbladder area.> > Fatigue - improvement during the day.> I wake earlier than usual - less hours sleep - but don't feel tired.> > Bioresonance test showed that stomach situation is much better than last exam in July 2009 contrary to my belief that MMS was causing damages to my stomach.> But Liver and Kidney channels are worst. Maybe because of liver & Kidney detoxing.> Therefore I believe that I must slow down on the number of daily drops. Or stop for a while.> > I started taking now Milk Thistle for kidney support.> > + frozen wheatgrass and multi-minerals.> > I believe it is very important not to put to much pressure on the Liver and Kidney.> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 your bile ducts could be blocked. roger Good post! >> > Have any of you paid attention to changes in certain body parts?> > Tongue color - my tongue has a much thicker white layer than before - probably helicobacter die off.> Eyes - no change.> Hand palm color - turned white from yellow.> Skin- slighty ulcerated sunspots are almost disapearing.> > Internal organs> Liver - slight pain near the gallbladder area.> > Fatigue - improvement during the day.> I wake earlier than usual - less hours sleep - but don't feel tired.> > Bioresonance test showed that stomach situation is much better than last exam in July 2009 contrary to my belief that MMS was causing damages to my stomach.> But Liver and Kidney channels are worst. Maybe because of liver & Kidney detoxing.> Therefore I believe that I must slow down on the number of daily drops. Or stop for a while.> > I started taking now Milk Thistle for kidney support.> > + frozen wheatgrass and multi-minerals.> > I believe it is very important not to put to much pressure on the Liver and Kidney.> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Thanks , But I don't think so. Just a dull pain under the right rib extending upwards, that can come and go. A blocked duck would cause intense pain, yellow eyes and skin, discolored feces. As I've been diagnosed by western medicine with IBS (Irritable bowel syndrome), which is something that doctors have to give a name, as they don't have a clue on this. Also Helycobacter. The same doctors also claim that I don't have a Gallbladder/Liver condition. Arie Good post! >> > Have any of you paid attention to changes in certain body parts?> > Tongue color - my tongue has a much thicker white layer than before - probably helicobacter die off.> Eyes - no change.> Hand palm color - turned white from yellow.> Skin- slighty ulcerated sunspots are almost disapearing.> > Internal organs> Liver - slight pain near the gallbladder area.> > Fatigue - improvement during the day.> I wake earlier than usual - less hours sleep - but don't feel tired.> > Bioresonance test showed that stomach situation is much better than last exam in July 2009 contrary to my belief that MMS was causing damages to my stomach.> But Liver and Kidney channels are worst. Maybe because of liver & Kidney detoxing.> Therefore I believe that I must slow down on the number of daily drops. Or stop for a while.> > I started taking now Milk Thistle for kidney support.> > + frozen wheatgrass and multi-minerals.> > I believe it is very important not to put to much pressure on the Liver and Kidney.> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 A blocked bile duct would not necessarily cause constant pain, nor jaundice and discolored feces is not necessarily a good guide for disease diagnosis. So many things can affect bowel color from one movement to the next. I had a blocked bile duct and did not have any of these symptoms as described. I had sporadic intense pains..especially after eating or drinking something with fat content. TO em that was the tip off of " gallbladder stones " and eventually I proved myself correct in that diagnosis as the pain was eradicated with the first cleanse. I was astounded that 4 gastro guys couldn't fidn nor deal with that problem...but I've learned ther is a lot doctors either don't know or ignore. medusa Arie Alon wrote: > > Just a dull pain under the right rib extending upwards, that can come > and go. > A blocked duck would cause intense pain, yellow eyes and skin, > discolored feces. > As I've been diagnosed by western medicine with IBS (Irritable bowel > syndrome), which is something that doctors have to give a name, as they > don't have a clue on this. Also Helycobacter. The same doctors also > claim that I don't have a Gallbladder/Liver condition. > Arie > > > > From: RRM <rmor67@...> > > your bile ducts could be blocked. > roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 I hopes it clears out at the next flush. As the first one may not have done this. But I did feel better for a couple of days after the flush. I'll eat some brazilian nuts and see what happens. Where you taking MMS when doing the flush? Arie> > From: RRM <rmor67 (DOT) com>> > your bile ducts could be blocked.> roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 NO ...I discovered MMS way after doing any flushes and it is not necessary to take it to produce stones. I will also note that I also displaced plenty of stones before eradicating liver flukes ( something contrary to what hulda claimed was possible). medusa Arie Alon wrote: > > > I hopes it clears out at the next flush. > As the first one may not have done this. > But I did feel better for a couple of days after the flush. > I'll eat some brazilian nuts and see what happens. > Where you taking MMS when doing the flush? > > Arie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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