Re: Google Flax hull lignan + AIDS cure: VERY INTERESTING INDEED

January 14, 2010

On 2010-01-14, D. Paris (parisd2002@...) wrote:

> Conclusion, one unique source of information in Aids, Cancer or Hep

> cure is ridiculus,

D., w9ould you please shut up about it? I'm tired of reading your

yammering and whining about there not being enough proofs for you.

If you don't wanna use it, fine, GO AWAY.

January 14, 2010

D,Here's what I'd expect to see, as these so thought " reliable " resources further their proof, either their funding will get pulled or they will be faced with developing some synthetic pantentable form (which won't work) or they will be faced with proving it actually doesn't work (by testing it incorrectly).

Your scepticism just indicates your lack of knowledge regarding the whole system. This education takes years of time, reading and researching. If you want to be educated, then ask. There are plenty of people here who can point you to researching funding that has been pulled, researchers disappearing, etc. A good book is, " Mistakes Were Made, but Not By Me " and there are many more. Dr. Cheney, (CFIDS) is also a good source.

Or it indicates that you are not who you say you are. I'm hoping you are just ignorant (please do not hear 'stupid'). Please understand, people here are sick, the system has failed them, they have seen the corruption first hand and they are working very hard to keep their families going and trying to get better. No one is really interesting in trying to 'prove' something to you or anyone else. We simply don't have the energy tickets for that. We get it - you don't. Yet.

So, make up your mind; educate yourself, ask better questions or stop the baggering.Really, my best to you, On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:35 AM, D. Paris <parisd2002@...> wrote:

Thanks a lot Tita,

This is very interesting, googeling Flax hull lignan + AIDS gives a lot of feedback including study from US universities, FDA, Mayo clinic,... this is becoming interesting because these are independent sources (from US !!!) giving similar information.

For the healing ladies and guys posting here who have probably little clue of the receipes, mixtures they take or describe on this group, this is the kind of Google results I would expect for MMS. But if we google MMS + Aid cure we finally always come back to Jim stuff or his resellers and if we Google Sodium chlorite + Aids or Chlorine + aids you dont arrive to same good feedback as for Lignan. If you Google precaution + Sodium chlorite you are scared same for the stuff you put in your pool (MMS2) and with reason, remember when we were young, was forbidden to swim in the next 2 hours they purified the pool, no?

Also Google did not give me any copycat for Jim cure, surprizing if it cure Aids it could have been duplicated...

Conclusion, one unique source of information in Aids, Cancer or Hep cure is ridiculus, people reading this group, please double, triple or more your reading from independent sources of information saying the same for one cure before to jump in it. Works for Lignan + cancer, Graviola, B17 even bicarbonate and many others

D

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Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:47 pm (PST)

Google Flax hull lignan + AIDS cure in Africa. All information is there. In one site it said it also helped with cancers.

January 14, 2010

thankyou

Re: [ ] Google Flax hull lignan + AIDS

cure: VERY INTERESTING INDEED

> On 2010-01-14, D. Paris (parisd2002@...) wrote:

>> Conclusion, one unique source of information in Aids, Cancer or Hep

>> cure is ridiculus,

>

> D., w9ould you please shut up about it? I'm tired of reading your

> yammering and whining about there not being enough proofs for you.

>

> If you don't wanna use it, fine, GO AWAY.

>

> ------------------------------------

>

January 15, 2010

On 2010-01-15, D. (parisd2002@...) wrote:

> It is clear that you have no TOLERANCE for those that do not think

> same way as you or for those who try to bring some jugment or do not

> follow you without thinking.

I haven't asked anyone to follow me, but you are right - I have no

tolerance for for repetitive nonsense.

> Yes I need proof

And again, there IS NO PROOF. How many times does it have to be said

before you will shut up long enough to hear it?

> and I am sure among the 1100 members who read without writing I am

> sure I am not the only one.

And they will have just as long a wait as you...

> I explain again, claiming aids is cured by MMS is the discovery of

> the century

There is more than one way to cure AIDS, MMS is not the first. In point

of fact, HIV does not cause AIDS, nor is it even really a specific disease.

> or your fanstastic Jim is a con artist, period.

There is enough real science behind the active 'ingredients' of both

MMS1 and MMS2 to prove that Jim is not a con man.

> Then was told " why do you need proof it cure Aids " why ?

That is a lie, D. You weren't told 'why do you need proof', you were

told THERE IS NO PROOF.

Ok, now it doesn't matter if you shut up about it or not, I have kill

filed your email address, so will see no more of your nonsense.

Have a nice life... MMS free even...

January 15, 2010

I do not understand what someone who thinks MMS is a hoax is doing on an MMS list. Can you bring proof it DOESN"T work? The door swings both ways. We are here to share our experiences, positive or negative. I for one don't care so much for empirical proof as I do for anecdotal results (good or bad) which tell me all I need to know. What is your own personal experience with MMS pray tell? BetsyFrom:

Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@...> Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 1:52:11 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Re: Google Flax hull lignan + AIDS cure: VERY INTERESTING INDEED

On 2010-01-15, D. (parisd2002 (DOT) fr) wrote:

> It is clear that you have no TOLERANCE for those that do not think

> same way as you or for those who try to bring some jugment or do not

> follow you without thinking.

I haven't asked anyone to follow me, but you are right - I have no

tolerance for for repetitive nonsense.

> Yes I need proof

And again, there IS NO PROOF. How many times does it have to be said

before you will shut up long enough to hear it?

> and I am sure among the 1100 members who read without writing I am

> sure I am not the only one.

And they will have just as long a wait as you...

> I explain again, claiming aids is cured by MMS is the discovery of

> the century

There is more than one way to cure AIDS, MMS is not the first. In point

of fact, HIV does not cause AIDS, nor is it even really a specific disease.

> or your fanstastic Jim is a con artist, period.

There is enough real science behind the active 'ingredients' of both

MMS1 and MMS2 to prove that Jim is not a con man.

> Then was told "why do you need proof it cure Aids" why ?

That is a lie, D. You weren't told 'why do you need proof', you were

told THERE IS NO PROOF.

Ok, now it doesn't matter if you shut up about it or not, I have kill

filed your email address, so will see no more of your nonsense.

Have a nice life... MMS free even...

January 16, 2010

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I second your statement. IF YOU DON'T LIKE MMS1 AND MMS2 then GET OFF THIS FORUM. You certainly DON'T scare me and I have not even tried it yet but will order some for emergencies, colds, etc anyway and then I'll be the judge as to whether it worked for me or not. This MMS has been around for 9 years and I haven't seen any BODY BAGS full of dead people that tried it.

Re: [ ] Re: Google Flax hull lignan + AIDS cure: VERY INTERESTING INDEED

On 2010-01-15, D. (parisd2002 (DOT) fr) wrote:> It is clear that you have no TOLERANCE for those that do not think> same way as you or for those who try to bring some jugment or do not> follow you without thinking.I haven't asked anyone to follow me, but you are right - I have notolerance for for repetitive nonsense.> Yes I need proofAnd again, there IS NO PROOF. How many times does it have to be saidbefore you will shut up long enough to hear it?> and I am sure among the 1100 members who read without writing I am> sure I am not the only one.And they will have just as long a wait as you...> I explain again, claiming aids is cured by MMS is the discovery of> the centuryThere is more than one way to cure AIDS, MMS is not the first. In pointof fact, HIV does not cause AIDS, nor is it even really a specific disease.> or your fanstastic Jim is a con artist, period.There is enough real science behind the active 'ingredients' of bothMMS1 and MMS2 to prove that Jim is not a con man.> Then was told "why do you need proof it cure Aids" why ?That is a lie, D. You weren't told 'why do you need proof', you weretold THERE IS NO PROOF.Ok, now it doesn't matter if you shut up about it or not, I have killfiled your email address, so will see no more of your nonsense.Have a nice life... MMS free even...

January 16, 2010

D ,

Obviously we dont have the answer you want to hear on this group .So quit beating the dead horse. So go look somewhere else for what you want to hear .

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From: D. <parisd2002@...>Subject: [ ] Re: Google Flax hull lignan + AIDS cure: VERY INTERESTING INDEED Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 11:12 AM

Bernado Tanstaafl,You wrote there is enough real science behind MMS1 and MMS2 (even if MMS2 is brand new except for purification of pools) but you next line you write there is NO PROOF (of Jim claim). No proof should mean no such claim (espacially about Aids), period. Imagine if Big Pharma claims they find a way to cure Aids, would you not expect a proof, I am sure yes because you (we) dont trust themHave you lost your intellectual jugement ? or may be you succeed to smoke MMS...Initialy I was just asking if there was testimony about hep B, was told it take longer than for Aids, so I assumed the few healing gurus that post here knew something about curing aids and hep, but NOTHING, and I exhaust all of you because I am asking for more than just "yes it works, no proof, just trust Jim, no way to find him to busy curing prisoner in Africa... or try it yourself" if you dont find nothing wrong in this statement I received this

means we have not at all same kind of intellectual reasonning and mine is working normally.

January 16, 2010

Where are all the people that took MMS and ended up in emergency rooms, why isn't the controlled press jumping on all the dying people that take it. Out of the 200,000 + people that have bought it, used it, where are the lawsuits, the hysterica, about MMS. The reason you don't see all of that is because people arn't dying from using it. Maybe they get a little nausea from too much too soom buy if thiis stuff was sooooooooooo bad , it would be plastered all over the TV , evening news that it is all a fraud and that only Doctors KNOW WHAT IS GOOD FOR YOU. So you want proof that it works.!!! I WANT PROOF THAT IT DOESN'T111111111

[ ] Re: Google Flax hull lignan + AIDS cure: VERY INTERESTING INDEED

Not working for cold, go back 2 weeks ago for 1 desapointed testimony, for cold MMS is not enough, you need a good immune system, for Aids seems to work but no testimony.>> I second your statement. IF YOU DON'T LIKE MMS1 AND MMS2 then GET OFF THIS FORUM. You certainly DON'T scare me and I have not even tried it yet but will order some for emergencies, colds, etc anyway and then I'll be the judge as to whether it worked for me or not. This MMS has been around for 9 years and I haven't seen any BODY BAGS full of dead people that tried it.>

January 17, 2010

As a seller of MMS’s we do get some feedback from people,

but much less than we would hope for. There are 2 HIV people, and a few

cancer cases (melanoma, prostate, sarcoma) that are looking extremely

promising. The HIV cases are entirely symptom free, though I am careful

not to call that a cure, as 99.99% isn’t a cure. What I mean is

that these people can lead normal lives for as long as they would have without

the condition. One other guy who is a personal friend I talked to tonight

told me how when he was back in England they said they could not find his

condition, which I cannot actually name, being an obscure immune deficiency.

His ‘numbers’ all come up great – much better than average –

but they tell him “you know, this will all come back eventually, it’s

just that the tests can’t find it right now”. One cancer

patient said “the cancer (tumour) has shrunk 2/3rds already, and 3

surgeons cannot explain it and they’re wondering if it was a mis-diagnosis.

The HIV guys are better than ever, and we’re hoping for some blood

results to back that up in the next month or so, once enough time has passed.

Even if the results come in good, we’ll never publish these results on

our site. They might appear elsewhere, but as the newsletter issue #8

points out, you can’t do a double blind placebo controlled study with

something as distinguished as MMS. There is no analogue placebo, so the

scientific way which is the accepted form, prevents the proving. This

stuff really works. It works really well. It doesn’t work on

everything, and we haven’t the organisation between us yet to clarify

that, but it will come. Things are accelerating in this world at an

amazing rate, and I have a ‘knowing’ that we’re going to make

things work. For anyone out there with a severe condition that is looking

for an olive branch, take hope in the fact that people are benefitting from

this right here and now. I purposely don’t mention our site as I’m

not here to try to win business. Any google for MMS will find a lot of

suppliers. Even as a seller I don’t think MMS is the only answer,

and if I developed a condition today then I know exactly what I would be doing,

which would include MMS, but it wouldn’t be the only thing. I would

take a multi-faceted approach rather than trying to prove one product, as I

want a cure rather than a badge for picking the right choice.

Take care

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January 17, 2010

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Its alright to mention your website occassionally and in conversation ,as long as it isnt spammy.You may also put a link to your site at the bottom of the message as part of your signature Also pleaseput a link in the links section of the groupEveryone can also recomend any or websites that are relevant to health topics that arise on the group.

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From: Bond <pmbond@...>Subject: [ ] Re: Google Flax hull lignan + AIDS cure: VERY INTERESTING INDEED Date: Sunday, January 17, 2010, 2:52 PM

As a seller of MMSâ€™s we do get some feedback from people, but much less than we would hope for. There are 2 HIV people, and a few cancer cases (melanoma, prostate, sarcoma) that are looking extremely promising. The HIV cases are entirely symptom free, though I am careful not to call that a cure, as 99.99% isnâ€™t a cure. What I mean is that these people can lead normal lives for as long as they would have without the condition. One other guy who is a personal friend I talked to tonight told me how when he was back in England they said they could not find his condition, which I cannot actually name, being an obscure immune deficiency. His â€˜numbersâ€™ all come up great â€“ much better than average â€“ but they tell him â€œyou know, this will all come back eventually, itâ€™s just that the tests canâ€™t find it right nowâ€. One cancer patient said â€œthe cancer (tumour) has shrunk 2/3rds already,

and 3 surgeons cannot explain it and theyâ€™re wondering if it was a mis-diagnosis. The HIV guys are better than ever, and weâ€™re hoping for some blood results to back that up in the next month or so, once enough time has passed. Even if the results come in good, weâ€™ll never publish these results on our site. They might appear elsewhere, but as the newsletter issue #8 points out, you canâ€™t do a double blind placebo controlled study with something as distinguished as MMS. There is no analogue placebo, so the scientific way which is the accepted form, prevents the proving. This stuff really works. It works really well. It doesnâ€™t work on everything, and we havenâ€™t the organisation between us yet to clarify that, but it will come. Things are accelerating in this world at an amazing rate, and I have a â€˜knowingâ€™ that weâ€™re going to make things work. For anyone out there with a severe

condition that is looking for an olive branch, take hope in the fact that people are benefitting from this right here and now. I purposely donâ€™t mention our site as Iâ€™m not here to try to win business. Any google for MMS will find a lot of suppliers. Even as a seller I donâ€™t think MMS is the only answer, and if I developed a condition today then I know exactly what I would be doing, which would include MMS, but it wouldnâ€™t be the only thing. I would take a multi-faceted approach rather than trying to prove one product, as I want a cure rather than a badge for picking the right choice.

Take care

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January 18, 2010

But it leads to extremely imaginative language innovations...

Chuck

I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder

to find one.

On 1/17/2010 1:27:27 PM, Wilkins (montemomma2002@...)

wrote:

> Name calling is not allowed.

>

> Wilkins The moderator

>

January 18, 2010

Hey D:

Go to your Doctor and ask for all the success stories for your beloved CHEMOTHERAPY. There are NONE.

It is worse that RAT POISON

[ ] Re: Google Flax hull lignan + AIDS cure: VERY INTERESTING INDEED

Yes some of us are sick and looking for treatment all around, and I care about this and wish to bring some good sense and rigourous raisonning in the group.If you are sick and have to make a choice between chemiotherapy and pool cleaner brought to us last summer 09 by Jim I hope that you will use your own jugment and not jump on the second because there is no success story available to help you choose for the second.Nevertheless, you can try MMS first for 3 weeks, if you are cured, this would be absolutly great and please come back to us loudly at least one will be glad to know you are a success story. If after 3 weeks no results you can still return to your doctor and take the chemiotherapy. You are absolutly correct about its success rate which is low and it destroys your immune system, there has been deaths but your doctor will be here to stop or delay the treatment if you are not ready, Jim wont be here if you lose 3 weeks or more using MMS. Email me if you need other sources and testimonies for cancer cures.I wish you good luck> > Bernado Tanstaafl,> >> > You wrote there is enough real science behind MMS1 and MMS2 (even if > > MMS2 is brand new except for purification of pools) but you next line > > you write there is NO PROOF (of Jim claim). No proof should mean no > > such claim (espacially about Aids), period. Imagine if Big Pharma > > claims they find a way to cure Aids, would you not expect a proof, I am > > sure yes because you (we) dont trust them> >> > Have you lost your intellectual jugement ? or may be you succeed to > > smoke MMS...> >> > Initialy I was just asking if there was testimony about hep B, was told > > it take longer than for Aids, so I assumed the few healing gurus that > > post here knew something about curing aids and hep, but NOTHING, and I > > exhaust all of you because I am asking for more than just "yes it > > works, no proof, just trust Jim, no way to find him to busy curing > > prisoner in Africa... or try it yourself" if you dont find nothing > > wrong in this statement I received this means we have not at all same > > kind of intellectual reasonning and mine is working normally.> >> > > Android>

January 18, 2010

Anyone who survives chemo would likely have also survived the cancer. Chemo is outright murder and its use should be deemed a penitentiary offense. Millions have been killed by chemo while their cause of death was erroneously listed as cancer. Insanity!BetsyFrom: Keycross <crossshapedkeys@...> Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 10:55:04 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Re: Google Flax hull lignan + AIDS cure: VERY INTERESTING INDEED

Hey D:

Go to your Doctor and ask for all the success stories for your beloved CHEMOTHERAPY. There are NONE.

It is worse that RAT POISON

January 18, 2010

Betsy and keycross, there seems to be one guy apparently sick, may be really

sick that may be wondering between MMS2 and Chemo and you cannot make such

statement on Chemo that influence his decision. The best you can write here is

that Chemo is not 100% sure to cure cancer and let him and his doctor decide.

Now what is the succees rate of MMS2 to cure cancer, you dont have a clue, same

as me !

> > > Bernado Tanstaafl,

> > >

> > > You wrote there is enough real science behind MMS1 and MMS2 (even if

> > > MMS2 is brand new except for purification of pools) but you next line

> > > you write there is NO PROOF (of Jim claim). No proof should mean no

> > > such claim (espacially about Aids), period. Imagine if Big Pharma

> > > claims they find a way to cure Aids, would you not expect a proof, I am

> > > sure yes because you (we) dont trust them

> > >

> > > Have you lost your intellectual jugement ? or may be you succeed to

> > > smoke MMS...

> > >

> > > Initialy I was just asking if there was testimony about hep B, was told

> > > it take longer than for Aids, so I assumed the few healing gurus that

> > > post here knew something about curing aids and hep, but NOTHING, and I

> > > exhaust all of you because I am asking for more than just " yes it

> > > works, no proof, just trust Jim, no way to find him to busy curing

> > > prisoner in Africa... or try it yourself " if you dont find nothing

> > > wrong in this statement I received this means we have not at all same

> > > kind of intellectual reasonning and mine is working normally.

> > >

> > Android

> >

>

January 18, 2010

Smart Keycross, WHERE IS THE BS in what I wrote below, I just told one sick guy

that instead of trusting blindly MMS he can try MMS during the 3 weeks protocol

and if no result then he can do what is doctor suggested him, I beleive this is

a not BS but instead a clever statement compare to what I sometime read.

May be you are the one to shut up.