Re: Question about 100% calcium hypochlorite

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I missed your post as to where to buy 100% calcium hypochlorite. I saw one brand claiming to be 100% but label on package said 65%. That brand was GLB Super Charge. Please advise where to buy stronger version , higher %

[ ] Question about 100% calcium hypochlorite

Hello,As I posted recently, I found a very inexpensive brand of pool shockthat is 100% calcium hypochlorite.I have posed the question to Jim, and am now awaiting a response, but Ithought I'd see if there are any chemists in the house who have anopinion...My question is, should I worry about diluting/cutting it with something- calcium carbonate maybe - or should it be ok to take as is? I'mguessing I should at least adjust the amount accordingly, since the samephysical amount will be twice the 'strength' of the 50% version?I'm mainly just wondering if the calcium carbonate that is part of theother stuff serves an important need as some kind of buffering agent?I'd hate to die from a simple experiment on myself... ;)Thanks again,

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Hi everyone,I'm new to this forum, but have been an MMS fan for quite some time, but really haven't used it much because of the original protocol.  I'd been out of the loop an excited to hear about  the new protocol for MMS1 and MMS2.  Later in January I'm planning on doing the MMS1 and MMS2 protocols for getting ride of all the coinfections that are associated with Lyme.  I have a feeling that it is only effective at killing the lyme that is in your blood stream, which is very little, however there are alternative methods such as rifing that work well for getting rid of it in the rest of your body.  Sorry to go on so long, but I am interested to know the brand of 100% you found.  Also, couldn't you just take less, why use a filler? I think the buffering question is a good one.  Of course,  many of us don't want all the extra junk in the other stuff.

Thanks all,On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@...> wrote:

 

Hello,

As I posted recently, I found a very inexpensive brand of pool shock

that is 100% calcium hypochlorite.

I have posed the question to Jim, and am now awaiting a response, but I

thought I'd see if there are any chemists in the house who have an

opinion...

My question is, should I worry about diluting/cutting it with something

- calcium carbonate maybe - or should it be ok to take as is? I'm

guessing I should at least adjust the amount accordingly, since the same

physical amount will be twice the 'strength' of the 50% version?

I'm mainly just wondering if the calcium carbonate that is part of the

other stuff serves an important need as some kind of buffering agent?

I'd hate to die from a simple experiment on myself...

Thanks again,

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On 12/6/2009, Keycross (crossshapedkeys@...) wrote:

> I missed your post as to where to buy 100% calcium hypochlorite. I

> saw one brand claiming to be 100% but label on package said 65%.

No, you read the label wrong. It says:

" 100% calcium hypochlorite (65% available chlorine) granular formulated

especially for super chlorination shock treatments. "

The available CHLORINE is 65%, but this product IS 100% calcium

hypochlorite.

http://tiny.pl/hxnwh

On the other hand, the Super Charge *II* product is only 47% calcium

hypochlorite:

http://tiny.pl/hxnwq

> That brand was GLB Super Charge. Please advise where to buy stronger

> version , higher %

The GLB Super Charge (I) is it.

You can contact the manufacturer in hopes of finding a local supplier to

save on the shipping (there is an email 'Contact' link in the upper

right of the page content) - I did, and they did find one in my area,

but you may not find one everywhere. I spoke to a lot of local pool

supply companies when looking for it (before contacting the manufacturer

directly and asking them), and they all told me that they specifically

did NOT carry it BECAUSE the shipping was higher - specifically, the

HAZMAT shipping was much more expensive than the other brands BECAUSE it

was 100% calcium hypochlorite.

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On 12/6/2009, H (40dayjourney@...) wrote:

> Sorry to go on so long, but I am interested to know the brand

> of 100% you found.

See links in email response to keycross a few minutes ago...

> Also, couldn't you just take less, why use a filler?

That is my question. What I don't want to do is die because I tried

something that *seems* like it would be ok, only to find out at my

autopsy that it really wasn't.

> I think the buffering question is a good one. Of course, many of us

> don't want all the extra junk in the other stuff.

Right... I'm a purist, thats why I went looking for it.

It is also why I will be experimenting to try to find the ideal

concentration of liquid HCL (hydrochloric acid) to use as an activator

for MMS-1 - I don't like the idea of Citric Acid, and I need to find

something that I can use at a 1-1 ratio, like the 50% citric acid

solution. All of the 'natural' activators (lemon juice, raw ACV, etc)

require a 5-1 ratio.

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You dont need to dilute it with some other fillers,can just take half the

capsule with 100% calcium hypochlorite, instead of full capsule.If you must do

the dilution with some powder, then a better choice will be Calcium Citrate,

Calcium Lactate or Calcium gluconate.

Calcium Carbonate is alkaline based, it requires extra stomach acid for better

absorption, hence it is generally best taken right after meals or with a glass

of acidic juice such as orange juice.

Calcium, being best absorbed in an acidic environment, calcium citrate is the

best absorbed form of calcium. It does not require extra stomach acid for

absorption, hence we may take it anytime in a day, even on an empty stomach.

KGRD

--- In , Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@...>

wrote:

>

> Hello,

>

> As I posted recently, I found a very inexpensive brand of pool shock

> that is 100% calcium hypochlorite.

>

> I have posed the question to Jim, and am now awaiting a response, but I

> thought I'd see if there are any chemists in the house who have an

> opinion...

>

> My question is, should I worry about diluting/cutting it with something

> - calcium carbonate maybe - or should it be ok to take as is? I'm

> guessing I should at least adjust the amount accordingly, since the same

> physical amount will be twice the 'strength' of the 50% version?

>

> I'm mainly just wondering if the calcium carbonate that is part of the

> other stuff serves an important need as some kind of buffering agent?

>

> I'd hate to die from a simple experiment on myself...

>

> Thanks again,

>

>

>

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On 12/7/2009, KGR (kgrdoss@...) wrote:

> You dont need to dilute it with some other fillers,can just take half

> the capsule with 100% calcium hypochlorite, instead of full capsule.

Well, that does seem to make sense (and is what I wrote was what

generally made sense) - but, is this just your opinion? Or do you have

some kind of background in chemistry that provides some 'oomph' to your

statement?

> If you must do the dilution with some powder, then a better choice

> will be Calcium Citrate, Calcium Lactate or Calcium gluconate.

My specifying calcium carbonate had nothing to do with desiring to get

any kind of nutritional value from the calcium, it had to do with the

fact that that seems to be what most/all of the other pool shocks used.

But thanks for your reply, it is appreciated...

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> > You dont need to dilute it with some other fillers,can just take half

> > the capsule with 100% calcium hypochlorite, instead of full capsule.

>

> Well, that does seem to make sense (and is what I wrote was what

> generally made sense) - but, is this just your opinion? Or do you have

> some kind of background in chemistry that provides some 'oomph' to your

> statement?

I am a just a simple chemical man,with passion for R & D, running a small

chemical plant, for the past 35 years, manufacturing metal finishing chemicals.

I am also a homoeopath and has a flare for newer, holistic healing arts.I was

fascinated by the simplicity and profundity of MMS system of healing and

interested to develop further and freely make it available to general public in

my area, that is India. So I am in the process of groundwork for that.

> My specifying calcium carbonate had nothing to do with desiring to get

> any kind of nutritional value from the calcium, it had to do with the

> fact that that seems to be what most/all of the other pool shocks used.

yes sir,I understand that.I feel it is just an improved version of Calcium

Carbonate and will give less load for stomach acids. Just a marginal

benefit...thats all, not a major issue at all.

>

> But thanks for your reply, it is appreciated...

I also appreciate your sharp analytical probing approach with open and frank

postings.

Thanks

KGRD

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On 12/7/2009, KGR (kgrdoss@...) wrote:

> Tanstaafl wrote:

>> On 12/7/2009, KGR (kgrdoss@...) wrote:

>>> You dont need to dilute it with some other fillers,can just take half

>>> the capsule with 100% calcium hypochlorite, instead of full capsule.

Ok... now I'm wondering, just how critical is the amount? Jim does have

the 'size zero capsule' in bold on his website. The next size down

capsule looks like it is considerably larger than half the size of the

zero - maybe 75%-85% - and I don't think there is anything smaller.

>> Well, that does seem to make sense (and is what I wrote was what

>> generally made sense) - but, is this just your opinion? Or do you have

>> some kind of background in chemistry that provides some 'oomph' to your

>> statement?

> I am a just a simple chemical man,with passion for R & D, running a

> small chemical plant, for the past 35 years, manufacturing metal

> finishing chemicals. I am also a homoeopath and has a flare for newer,

> holistic healing arts. I was fascinated by the simplicity and profundity

> of MMS system of healing and interested to develop further and freely

> make it available to general public in my area, that is India. So I am

> in the process of groundwork for that.

Wow, excellent... thank you! I hope you weren't offended by my

>> My specifying calcium carbonate had nothing to do with desiring to get

>> any kind of nutritional value from the calcium, it had to do with the

>> fact that that seems to be what most/all of the other pool shocks used.

> yes sir,I understand that. I feel it is just an improved version of

> Calcium Carbonate and will give less load for stomach acids. Just a

> marginal benefit...thats all, not a major issue at all.

Ah, ok then, makes sense in that light...

>> But thanks for your reply, it is appreciated...

> I also appreciate your sharp analytical probing approach with open

> and frank postings.

Thanks...