Re: MMS1 old vs new protocol

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On 2010-01-21 5:39 AM, Arie Alon wrote:

> ly I'm confused.

>

> For many years (was it 9 years?) people where taking the old protocol

> and according to testimonies, being cured of many diseases.

>

> Now there is a new protocol of two drops every hour which I find very

> hard to follow.

> It's almost impossible to to this at work at that frequency.

Depends on the job I guess... yes it would be almost impossible for a

construction worker to do this, but not an office worker.

> So would it mean that the old protocol was an over dose?

>

> Or maybe two drops is not enough?

>

> Or that it was less efficient because the oxygen would stay in the blood

> for only two hours?

The latter - except I'm not sure why you said 'oxygen'... MMS1's active

ingredient is chlorine dioxide (ClO2), not oxygen.

> Do we need to have oxygen constantly flowing in the blood?

Well... yes, you would die without oxygenated blood, but again, we're

talking about ClO2, not oxygen.

> Has any of you being taking the new protocol of two drops every hour? Is

> it more efficient?

Apparently Jim initially thought that the ClO2 would slowly release for

8+ hours. He then changed his mind, and now believes it only last for an

hour or two, hence the change.

I would love for some kind of actual scientific measurements to be made

to see what really happens, but I'm also guessing that it could vary

from person to person depending on the state of their body chemistry, so

that may not be very precise either.

> Catch 22 situation????????

>

> I'm on week 6 now taking 7 drops 3 times a day.

I wouldn't stay on it so long without at least a week or 3 break in between.

The current protocol is 3 weeks, and if necessary, repeat after a break.

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--- In , Arie Alon <maculeleh@...>

wrote:

>

>

> ly I'm confused.

>  

> For many years (was it 9 years?) people where taking the old protocol and

according to testimonies, being cured of many diseases.

>  

> Now there is a new protocol of two drops every hour which I find very hard to

follow.

> It's almost impossible to to this at work at that frequency.

>  

> So would it mean that the old protocol was an over dose?

>  

> Or maybe two drops is not enough?

>  

> Or that it was less efficient because the oxygen would stay in the blood for

only two hours?

>  

> Do we need to have oxygen constantly flowing in the blood?

>  

> Has any of you being taking the new protocol of two drops every hour? Is it

more efficient?

>  

> Catch 22 situation????????

>  

> I'm on week 6 now taking 7 drops 3 times a day.

>  

> Kindly comment your insights.

>  

> Thank you

>  

> Arie

>  

In my view, please do not change protocol which is working good for you.

Logically,as per Jim's findings, our target is to get to 40-45 drops per day

(maximum),in incremental steps day by day.That is the bottom line.Whether you do

it by hourly dosage or dosage 2-3 times a day, is a matter of tolerance of your

body,intensity of reactions you experience,depth of the disease,your

convenience. In Jim's experience,probably larger dosage (15 drops 3 times a day)

must have debilitated reactions to many seriously affected patients,forcing him

to change to hourly or 2 hourly dosage.Unless there is some symptoms that

indicate that the body consumes MMS very fast, I don't see any reason to change

to 2hourly dosage. For very serious conditions and illnesses one should prefer

to go for hourly or 2 hourly dosages, but gradually frequency can be reduced as

improvement take place.

Ultimately, trust your own experience after taking into account various options.

regards

KGR

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In a message dated 1/21/2010 5:55:57 P.M. Central Standard Time, 40dayjourney@... writes:

<<put one bottle of MMS in my purse, one bottle of ACV, and a baggie of empty capsules. Every hour - to two hours, I open two capsules, put two drops of MMS in each capsule, fill with ACV, put the caps on, hold in my hand until they start getting soft (about 2.5 minutes) and swallow with water. Easy for me to do anywhere.>>

It seems as if the methods keep changing. Not long ago there was a huge discussion about how much water we were to drink. Instructions told us to drink two 8 oz glasses before taking MMS and then 1 glass "thereafter".

Obviously, taking MMS by the above method, only a small amount of water was taken.

Is the protocol for taking large amounts of water no longer used?

Doing it according to the above method certainly does simplify things! I've been hesitating to begin trying MMS because drinking water even in small amounts is almost like torture for me. But doing it as suggested by 40dayjourney would make it easy, even for me!

KR

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In a message dated 1/21/2010 7:23:35 P.M. Central Standard Time, 40dayjourney@... writes:

From what I remember, you only need about 4 oz of water with MMS1. I'm not even sure you'd have to have it at all?The big water discussions you are recalling are regarding MMS2 - not MMS1.

Ok, great. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

KR

[Guest guest]

I put one bottle of MMS in my purse, one bottle of ACV, and a baggie of empty capsules.  Every hour - to two hours, I open two capsules, put two drops of MMS in each capsule, fill with ACV, put the caps on, hold in my hand until they start getting soft (about 2.5 minutes) and swallow with water. Easy for me to do anywhere.

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 5:21 AM, KGR <kgrdoss@...> wrote:

 

>

>

> ly I'm confused.

>  

> For many years (was it 9 years?) people where taking the old protocol and according to testimonies, being cured of many diseases.

>  

> Now there is a new protocol of two drops every hour which I find very hard to follow.

> It's almost impossible to to this at work at that frequency.

>  

> So would it mean that the old protocol was an over dose?

>  

> Or maybe two drops is not enough?

>  

> Or that it was less efficient because the oxygen would stay in the blood for only two hours?

>  

> Do we need to have oxygen constantly flowing in the blood?

>  

> Has any of you being taking the new protocol of two drops every hour? Is it more efficient?

>  

> Catch 22 situation????????

>  

> I'm on week 6 now taking 7 drops 3 times a day.

>  

> Kindly comment your insights.

>  

> Thank you

>  

> Arie

>  

In my view, please do not change protocol which is working good for you. Logically,as per Jim's findings, our target is to get to 40-45 drops per day (maximum),in incremental steps day by day.That is the bottom line.Whether you do it by hourly dosage or dosage 2-3 times a day, is a matter of tolerance of your body,intensity of reactions you experience,depth of the disease,your convenience. In Jim's experience,probably larger dosage (15 drops 3 times a day) must have debilitated reactions to many seriously affected patients,forcing him to change to hourly or 2 hourly dosage.Unless there is some symptoms that indicate that the body consumes MMS very fast, I don't see any reason to change to 2hourly dosage. For very serious conditions and illnesses one should prefer to go for hourly or 2 hourly dosages, but gradually frequency can be reduced as improvement take place.

Ultimately, trust your own experience after taking into account various options.

regards

KGR

[Guest guest]

>

> Is the protocol for taking large amounts of water no longer used?

>

> KR

>

Large volumes of water is always mandatory for MMS2 (ie Calcium Hypochlorite)

but not for MMS1. This is to facilitate conversion of MMS2 to Hypochlorous acid

rather than to chlorine gas.

[Guest guest]

From what I remember, you only need about 4 oz of water with MMS1.  I'm not even sure you'd have to have it at all?The big water discussions you are recalling are regarding MMS2 - not MMS1.

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 5:00 PM, <Ibrake4monks@...> wrote:

 

In a message dated 1/21/2010 5:55:57 P.M. Central Standard Time, 40dayjourney@... writes:

<<put one bottle of MMS in my purse, one bottle of ACV, and a baggie of empty capsules.  Every hour - to two hours, I open two capsules, put two drops of MMS in each capsule, fill with ACV, put the caps on, hold in my hand until they start getting soft (about 2.5 minutes) and swallow with water. Easy for me to do anywhere.>>

It seems as if the methods keep changing.   Not long ago there was a huge discussion about how much water we were to drink.   Instructions told us to drink two 8 oz glasses before taking MMS and then 1 glass " thereafter " . 

 

Obviously, taking MMS by the above method, only a small amount of water was taken.  

 

Is the protocol for taking large amounts of water no longer used?

 

Doing it according to the above method certainly does simplify things!   I've been hesitating to begin trying MMS because drinking water even in small amounts is almost like torture for me.  But doing it as suggested by 40dayjourney would make it easy, even for me!

KR

[Guest guest]

Well arie, if you want to do the old protocol and keep that sustained

oxygen in your blood. You should try opaline dry oxy pills during the

day when you're at work. See, I dose myself 2 times a day and take

opaline dry oxy during the day as well. Its an oxidant so it works just

the same.

On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 2:39 am, Arie Alon wrote:

> ly I'm confused.

>

> For many years (was it 9 years?) people where taking the old protocol

> and according to testimonies, being cured of many diseases.

>

> Now there is a new protocol of two drops every hour which I find very

> hard to follow.

>

> It's almost impossible to to this at work at that frequency.

>

> So would it mean that the old protocol was an over dose?

>

> Or maybe two drops is not enough?

>

> Or that it was less efficient because the oxygen would stay in the

> blood for only two hours?

>

> Do we need to have oxygen constantly flowing in the blood?

>

> Has any of you being taking the new protocol of two drops every hour?

> Is it more efficient?

>

> Catch 22 situation????????

>

> I'm on week 6 now taking 7 drops 3 times a day.

>

> Kindly comment your insights.

>

> Thank you

>

> Arie

>

>

Android

[Guest guest]

Aire I healed on the old protocol, and healed even more on the aids protocol of mms1 every hour and mms2 every 2 hours. Now I am doing a maintenance dose of 10 drops mms1 activated ACV mother. I like you found this confusing taking the mms1 then in apple juice and water so the lesser drops were easier to tolerate drinking. Now I put all mms 1 and 2 in capsules. I take the 10 drop maintenance at night before bed. Every morning I do the supplements and other detox like essiac tea. http://www.essiacinfo.org/I am trying to live with chronic lyme.

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advanced. But, you have to look at what I consider "successfully." You

see there is no test for checking to see if someone is HIV negative.

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they are designed to detect antigens. Antigens are substances that

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antibodies and antigens will be with you long after the HIV virus is

gone, maybe the rest of your life. That's the immune system's job, to

protect you from the disease, or from the disease coming back by

keeping antibodies available. So the present tests for HIV positive

will never work for testing HIV negative.

Ok, so what is a successfully treated HIV person? Well here if

Africa we have now come to consider that it is any HIV case that has

lost all the various discomforts and symptoms and poor health that a

person with AIDS has. In other words when he is healthy again we

consider that his treatment has been successful. One other test that we

apply, even though most doctors will say, "That doesn't mean anything,"

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uses to kill diseases and other things. It the CD4 count is back up to

normal or going up to normal, we consider that a very good indication.

The same situation exists for AIDS.

So in my opinion, when someone finishes this latest HIV

protocol, I believe that he really is HIV/AIDS negative. So far the

people here who have finished this protocol have remained healthy up to

4 months. Someday, they will have a test to prove HIV negative, but

there is no such test now. And disgusting as it sounds, there are many

false HIV positive tests reported, causing people to waste money and

time and distress when it is not necessary, and of course the drug

companies could care less as they just make extra money.

All the people treated with this protocol here are happy to be

over their bad health, and suffering, and back to their normal lives.

On their health sheet under "Other Data," they all write, "Happy." They

are not worried about HIV any more as they feel that should their

health deteriorate they will just take some more MMS.

Although the HIV protocol is a bit intense and takes three

weeks, it is quite simple. It uses only MMS which is now called MMS1.

Out of the entire group only 3 needed MMS2 because they had cancer, and

that was handled too.

The new HIV/AIDS Protocol: Take 3 drops of activated MMS in juice or

water for at least 8 hours straight every day for 3 weeks. Only those

people who are very sick need to start out at less than 3 drops and

hour. Use 3 drops of MMS, 15 drops of lemon juice, or 10% solution of

citric acid, or 3 drops of 50% citric acid in a clean dry glass, wait 3

minutes and add 1/4 to 1/2 glass of juice or water and drink. Do not

use orange juice, but most other juices are OK.

BUT, if you notice nausea, or vomiting, or diarrhea, stop until the

problem is gone, and then continue with less MMS for a few hours. But

return to 3 drops an hour as soon as you can. Do not stop taking MMS.

If bad nausea persists take as little as 1/4 drop and hour.

It's OK to stop until nausea is gone, but a small amount of nausea may

continue for some time. Do not let a tiny bit of nausea stop you. Only

stop if it gets to be irritating. NORMALLY VERY LITTLE NAUSEA OR

DIARRHEA IS NOTICED, BUT IT DOES HAPPEN. If you have to go to 1/4 or

1/2 drop for a long time to prevent nausea that is OK but you should

then extend your protocol an extra week.

The nausea is caused by killing pathogens as the pathogens

dump poison into the system when they die. A normal healthy person

notices absolutely nothing from taking a great deal more than 3 drops

an hour. The more health problems the more likely you will be to notice

nausea. Just handle it as given above and you will be OK.

Normally HIV positive people have what is called opportunity

diseases that take over or get started because of the distressed immune

system. Evidently the first thing MMS does is to go after those

diseases. It provides ammunition to the immune system. The immune

system then runs out and kills the pathogens throughout the body.

The reason why hourly doses are required is because HIV is a

virus, or, maybe not. I know there are theories that HIV doesn't exist

and that AIDS doesn't come from HIV. And the fact is about 50% of the

people who have AIDS never were diagnosed with HIV. Fortunately, MMS

doesn't care one bit either way. MMS kills viruses in a different way

than bacteria. It prevents the growth of viruses by preventing the

formation of the special virus proteins.

However, it has been demonstrated that this takes longer than just

blowing a hole in the side of the bacteria. It evidently takes more

than 1 or 2 hours. How much longer I am not sure, but the 3 drops

hourly for 8 hours per day for 3 weeks seems to work. I couldn't join

in the "AIDS-isn't-caused-by-HIV" argument as I am not that smart. All

I know is that MMS overcomes AIDS and either it kills HIV or it just

kills all the diseases that are present. I believe though that

something more than just bad nutrition is responsible for all those

opportunistic diseases that seem to occur.

MMS is amazingly fast. How many people do you see losing their

diseases and health problems in 3 weeks? Not many. There is no point in

using DMSO in this protocol or MMS2 unless some unusual problem is

present or comes to light.

Related topics: See the new protocol for stage 4 cancer Here . It actually works with all cancers. Read also the write-up on MMS1 and MMS2 verses Ozone and Hydrogen Peroxide Here .

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> > ly I'm confused.> >> > For many years (was it 9 years?)Â people where taking the old protocol > > and according to testimonies, being cured of many diseases.> >> > Now there is a new protocol of two drops every hour which I find very > > hard to follow.> >> > It's almost impossible to to this at work at that frequency.> >> > So would it mean that the old protocol was an over dose?> >> > Or maybe two drops is not enough?> >> > Or that it was less efficient because the oxygen would stay in the > > blood for only two hours?> >> > Do we need to have oxygen constantly flowing in the blood?> >> > Has any of you being taking the new protocol of two drops every hour? > > Is it more efficient?> >> > Catch 22 situation????????> >> > I'm on week 6 now taking 7 drops 3 times a day.> >> > Kindly comment your insights.> >> > Thank you> >> > Arie> >> > > Android>

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,

Please remind me of what ACV is. I remember it was somewhere discussed here.

Thanks

Arie

>> > ly I'm confused.> > For many years (was it 9 years?) people where taking the old protocol and according to testimonies, being cured of many diseases.> > Now there is a new protocol of two drops every hour which I find very hard to follow.> It's almost impossible to to this at work at that frequency. > > So would it mean that the old protocol was an over dose?> > Or maybe two drops is not enough?> > Or that it was less efficient because the oxygen would stay in the blood for only two hours?> > Do

we need to have oxygen constantly flowing in the blood?> > Has any of you being taking the new protocol of two drops every hour? Is it more efficient?> > Catch 22 situation??? ?????> > I'm on week 6 now taking 7 drops 3 times a day. > > Kindly comment your insights.> > Thank you> > Arie> In my view, please do not change protocol which is working good for you. Logically,as per Jim's findings, our target is to get to 40-45 drops per day (maximum),in incremental steps day by day.That is the bottom line.Whether you do it by hourly dosage or dosage 2-3 times a day, is a matter of tolerance of your body,intensity of reactions you experience,depth of the disease,your convenience. In Jim's experience,probably larger dosage (15 drops 3 times a day) must have debilitated reactions to many seriously affected

patients,forcing him to change to hourly or 2 hourly dosage.Unless there is some symptoms that indicate that the body consumes MMS very fast, I don't see any reason to change to 2hourly dosage. For very serious conditions and illnesses one should prefer to go for hourly or 2 hourly dosages, but gradually frequency can be reduced as improvement take place.Ultimately, trust your own experience after taking into account various options.regardsKGR