Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 , Recently Pfizers were in court for fraudolently selling their drugs. brought about by the action of a whistleblower who earned a reputed $55million . Pfizers were fined $2.3 billion.The judge said they were serial fraudsters as this was the fourth time in ten years they had been in court. These are the sort of criminals that are running the fertiliser, food. pharmacuetical and chemical businesses.that are poisoning every aspect of our lives. And the politicians are mere employees. Harvard university has 20% of its staff funded by Pharma. Doctors earn billions of dollars in backhanders from these companies. What information can we trust? The WHO, who started the swine flu hoax, are funded by Pharma and no doubt their man fronts the organisation. The Bush family were invovled with Eli Lilly, and Rumsfeld with Gilead Industries who had the rights to Tamiflu.He made a $100 million on that deal alone. And the Quayle family also have ties with Pharma.. Really there is not one you could trust... From: <angelalee0511@...>Subject: Re: Codexiodine Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 20:38 This is a response that I received from LifeExtensions back in September. This was after I had already written my Congressman. Thank you for your recent correspondence. Codex is an international set of guidelines that must be approved by the national legislative body before it becomes effective in that country. To date, no one has submitted a bill to Congress that would enact Codex and make it the law of the land in the USA. If this should happen, you can be sure that we will be a highly vocal and vigorous opponent of that legislation. If you have any additional questions, please e-mail us or call the advisor helpline at (800) 226-2370.Please make sure Case:[116010] is in the subject line of all correspondence. For Longer Life,Life ExtensionMember Support(800) 678-8989 > > >> > > According to Codex Alimentarius, any substance (herb, mineral, amino acid, or vitamin) that is not specifically approved is banned! Do a search for Codex Alimentarius on Youtube to educate yourself.> > > Lugol's has already been partially banned, has it not? There are already restrictions on the concentration and volume you can purchase. I suspect that this is only the first step. MMS has already been banned in Canada, and natural doctors are under the guillotines set up for them by the medical establishment gangsters.> > > > > > Iodoral, along with the weak iodine solutions such as Nascent iodine, have so far not been affected by legislation. Hopefully, that will not change. My guess is that Iodoral might become a prescription- only item, obtainable only at high cost. Already, you are required to have a prescription if you order it directly from the Iodoral main website.> > > > > > from Israel> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 , see http://www.communicationagents.com/sepp/2007/10/15/codex_alimentarius_will_eu_laws_become_world_standard.htm The Codex Alimentarius (Latin for "food code" or "food book") is a collection of internationally recognized standards, codes of practice, guidelines and other recommendations relating to foods, food production and food safety. Its name derives from the Codex Alimentarius Austriacus.[1] Its texts are developed and maintained by the Codex Alimentarius Commission, a body that was established in 1963 by the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO) and the World Health Organization (WHO). The Commission's main aims are stated as being to protect the health of consumers and ensure fair practices in the international food trade. The Codex Alimentarius is recognized by the World Trade Organization as an international reference point for the resolution of disputes concerning food safety and consumer protection.[2][3] Who funds the WHO Pharma... Imagine these criminals looking after our food interests? Well they mostly are at present with the unlimited rubbish they produce. Guaranteed to make people who use these foods to suffer from a host of deficiencies. All seems very reasonable. Bt funny how they keep appearing in court. In the Pfizer case recently where they were fined $2.3 billion dollars, the judge branded them serial liars. nd fraudsters as this was the 4th time they had appeared in court in ten years!!! From: avproff@... <avproff@...>Subject: Re: Codexiodine Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 23:00 whats your source for that?> > > >> > > > According to Codex Alimentarius, any substance (herb, mineral, amino> > acid, or vitamin) that is not specifically approved is banned! Do a search> > for Codex Alimentarius on Youtube to educate yourself.> > > > Lugol's has already been partially banned, has it not? There are already> > restrictions on the concentration and volume you can purchase. I suspect> > that this is only the first step. MMS has already been banned in Canada, and> > natural doctors are under the guillotines set up for them by the medical> > establishment gangsters.> > > > > > > > Iodoral, along with the weak iodine solutions such as Nascent iodine,> > have so far not been affected by legislation. Hopefully, that will not> > change. My guess is that Iodoral might become a prescription- only item,> > obtainable only at high cost. Already, you are required to have a> > prescription if you order it directly from the Iodoral main website.> > > > > > > > from Israel> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Thanks for the link. So if the world would only adapt Germany's laws on supplements, that would not be all that bad - I'm from Germany and I am able to get almost anything I need. I just do have to take more pills because the dosages are smaller. I doubt seriously that the codex alimentarius is just " something from Germany " so to speak, pharma does not only come from Germany as you might know and its in the interest of the international pharma industry that they go further and further with their restrictions. The idea of the codex could have been a good thing, but its now just abused and being pushed by money interests. > > > > > > > > > > According to Codex Alimentarius, any substance (herb, mineral, amino > > > acid, or vitamin) that is not specifically approved is banned! Do a search > > > for Codex Alimentarius on Youtube to educate yourself. > > > > > Lugol's has already been partially banned, has it not? There are already > > > restrictions on the concentration and volume you can purchase. I suspect > > > that this is only the first step. MMS has already been banned in Canada, and > > > natural doctors are under the guillotines set up for them by the medical > > > establishment gangsters. > > > > > > > > > > Iodoral, along with the weak iodine solutions such as Nascent iodine, > > > have so far not been affected by legislation. Hopefully, that will not > > > change. My guess is that Iodoral might become a prescription- only item, > > > obtainable only at high cost. Already, you are required to have a > > > prescription if you order it directly from the Iodoral main website. > > > > > > > > > > from Israel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 , Unfortunately it is not possible to obtain large doses of iodine taking food. I would instead advise purchasing all the Lugol's iodine you can while it is still available. The best purchasing option is to buy elemental iodine crystals (~250 grams) and potassium iodide (~500 grams) and make your own. You can find these elements on eBay. from Israel > > > > > > > > > > We know that the companion nutrients are needed to make iodine effective. So maybe as you added them it started to work by kicking out toxins and beginning to be used by the thyroid. Your thyroid is in your neck not your chest so you comment about swelling and thyroid doesn't make sense to me. It is normal for your hormones to go " whacky " when taking iodoral as ever gland and mucosal lining use iodine (adrenals, ovaries, uterus - all control sex hormones). > > > > > > > > > > Here are the dosage recommendations: > > > > > > > > > > Magnesium 400 mgs > > > > > Vit C 3,000 - 5,000 mgs > > > > > Selenium 200 - 400 mcg > > > > > Unrefined salt 1/2 tsp + using liberally on food. > > > > > > > > > > Other beneficial things I have found: > > > > > > > > > > Kroeger Herbs Sunny A - 25,000 iU from fish and carrots > > > > > BalanCe - www.vrp.com a vit C supplement containing Vit C, Potassium, Magnesium, Calcium I feel best taking 1-2 scoops 2x per day (I have to work up to that amount for bowel tolerance) > > > > > B6 Complex - I take Pure Encapsulations > > > > > > > > > > Keep in mind most of us are HIGHLY toxic and when you get things moving you will get a healing crisis. I have lived them for years as I work on each new thing. You are always a work in process. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I right or wrong about iodine? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I started taking it about 5 months ago and really thought it could help resolve A LOT of issues I was having, mainly weight gain, sluggishness and constipation. I read up on it and bought Brownstein's book. > > > > > > > > > > I started out with 50mg/day and stayed there without missing a dosage. Early on I began B2, B3 and Vit C. I had been taking mag malate for a few years and recently upped my dosage of it. More recently I started taking selenium, even though it's in my liquid vitamin. > > > > > > > > > > I started seeing my symptoms get worse and my cycle went absolutely haywire where it has been very normal for years and years. Especially problemsome (is that a word? is the weight gain and constipation. > > > > > > > > > > Friday was the last day I took 50mg and went 2 days with taking none. Then for the last 2 days I took 12.5mg. I've had a 'cramp' in my upper chest (like it's my thyroid swelling or something)and just a general unease. > > > > > > > > > > I don't know which way to go. I feel like I'm pushing myself right into taking the hormone and I started taking iodine specifically so I would NOT have to do that! > > > > > > > > > > I read here that many are having the same problems as me so it seems the iodine is having an opposite effect from what we thought it would do. > > > > > > > > > > I kinda feel like I'm going nuts here and would love some help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 You are both right about the dates. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5266884912495233634# Beverly > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 , How then do these long lived tribes manage without the "benefit of modern madicine". Thanks for the info on making my own Lugol. From: Yochanan <yburkett@...>Subject: Re: codexiodine Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 8:07 , Unfortunately it is not possible to obtain large doses of iodine taking food. I would instead advise purchasing all the Lugol's iodine you can while it is still available. The best purchasing option is to buy elemental iodine crystals (~250 grams) and potassium iodide (~500 grams) and make your own. You can find these elements on eBay. from Israel> > > > >> > > > > We know that the companion nutrients are needed to make iodine effective. So maybe as you added them it started to work by kicking out toxins and beginning to be used by the thyroid. Your thyroid is in your neck not your chest so you comment about swelling and thyroid doesn't make sense to me. It is normal for your hormones to go "whacky" when taking iodoral as ever gland and mucosal lining use iodine (adrenals, ovaries, uterus - all control sex hormones). > > > > > > > > > > Here are the dosage recommendations:> > > > > > > > > > Magnesium 400 mgs> > > > > Vit C 3,000 - 5,000 mgs> > > > > Selenium 200 - 400 mcg> > > > > Unrefined salt 1/2 tsp + using liberally on food.> > > > > > > > > > Other beneficial things I have found:> > > > > > > > > > Kroeger Herbs Sunny A - 25,000 iU from fish and carrots> > > > > BalanCe - www.vrp.com a vit C supplement containing Vit C, Potassium, Magnesium, Calcium I feel best taking 1-2 scoops 2x per day (I have to work up to that amount for bowel tolerance)> > > > > B6 Complex - I take Pure Encapsulations> > > > > > > > > > Keep in mind most of us are HIGHLY toxic and when you get things moving you will get a healing crisis. I have lived them for years as I work on each new thing. You are always a work in process.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: spacejunkie2001us > > > > > iodinegroups (DOT) com > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 7:07 AM> > > > > Subject: Am I right or wrong about iodine?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I started taking it about 5 months ago and really thought it could help resolve A LOT of issues I was having, mainly weight gain, sluggishness and constipation. I read up on it and bought Brownstein's book.> > > > > > > > > > I started out with 50mg/day and stayed there without missing a dosage. Early on I began B2, B3 and Vit C. I had been taking mag malate for a few years and recently upped my dosage of it. More recently I started taking selenium, even though it's in my liquid vitamin.> > > > > > > > > > I started seeing my symptoms get worse and my cycle went absolutely haywire where it has been very normal for years and years. Especially problemsome (is that a word? is the weight gain and constipation.> > > > > > > > > > Friday was the last day I took 50mg and went 2 days with taking none. Then for the last 2 days I took 12.5mg. I've had a 'cramp' in my upper chest (like it's my thyroid swelling or something)and just a general unease.> > > > > > > > > > I don't know which way to go. I feel like I'm pushing myself right into taking the hormone and I started taking iodine specifically so I would NOT have to do that!> > > > > > > > > > I read here that many are having the same problems as me so it seems the iodine is having an opposite effect from what we thought it would do.> > > > > > > > > > I kinda feel like I'm going nuts here and would love some help.> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 , That is the point. Tiny doses. So one has to take not just the useful ingredients but the fillers, anti caking agents,titanium oxide,glazing agents etc by the five or tenfold? And the cheaper versions, who knows what they add in but likely aspartame,or some other toxic sweetner and the cheapest of ingredients. . From: avproff@... <avproff@...>Subject: Re: Codexiodine Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 23:53 Thanks for the link. So if the world would only adapt Germany's laws on supplements, that would not be all that bad - I'm from Germany and I am able to get almost anything I need. I just do have to take more pills because the dosages are smaller. I doubt seriously that the codex alimentarius is just "something from Germany" so to speak, pharma does not only come from Germany as you might know and its in the interest of the international pharma industry that they go further and further with their restrictions.The idea of the codex could have been a good thing, but its now just abused and being pushed by money interests.> > > > >> > > > > According to Codex Alimentarius, any substance (herb, mineral, amino> > > acid, or vitamin) that is not specifically approved is banned! Do a search> > > for Codex Alimentarius on Youtube to educate yourself.> > > > > Lugol's has already been partially banned, has it not? There are already> > > restrictions on the concentration and volume you can purchase. I suspect> > > that this is only the first step. MMS has already been banned in Canada, and> > > natural doctors are under the guillotines set up for them by the medical> > > establishment gangsters.> > > > > > > > > > Iodoral, along with the weak iodine solutions such as Nascent iodine,> > > have so far not been affected by legislation. Hopefully, that will not> > > change. My guess is that Iodoral might become a prescription- only item,> > > obtainable only at high cost. Already, you are required to have a> > > prescription if you order it directly from the Iodoral main website.> > > > > > > > > > from Israel> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Best to write your Congressman/woman and Senators to express your dissatisfaction with this. Also, allowing nutritional supplements is a good way to lower health care costs since it looks like we are going to have a public health care option. This is the best argument against CODEX and the conspiracy against nutritional supplements. Some of the large chemical companies, like Monsanto have supplement divisions. They own Solgar. Jag From: dawn volz <dawnv5@...>Subject: Re: Re: Codexiodine Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 2:55 PM i believe the threat is real...even though it is "voluntary" it is our governments that will decide if they want to "voluntarily" join the codex....fact is that world organizations may start to cry foul and try to make us do it based on some ideal of free world trade and trade violations etc....fact is i dont want the government to pack it in with the others involved with codex..so i will continue to write my congressman and president to try to keep it from happening here.... From: Yochanan <yburkett (DOT) com>iodinegroups (DOT) comSent: Thu, November 12, 2009 12:49:08 PMSubject: Re: Codex Ha, ha! That is laughable; it's like asking criminals if they plan to commit a crime. I would hardly consider any world government agency trustworthy. from Israel> > >> > > According to Codex Alimentarius, any substance (herb, mineral, amino> acid, or vitamin) that is not specifically approved is banned! Do a search> for Codex Alimentarius on Youtube to educate yourself.> > > Lugol's has already been partially banned, has it not? There are already> restrictions on the concentration and volume you can purchase. I suspect> that this is only the first step. MMS has already been banned in Canada, and> natural doctors are under the guillotines set up for them by the medical> establishment gangsters.> > > > > > Iodoral, along with the weak iodine solutions such as Nascent iodine,> have so far not been affected by legislation. Hopefully, that will not> change. My guess is that Iodoral might become a prescription- only item,> obtainable only at high cost. Already, you are required to have a> prescription if you order it directly from the Iodoral main website.> > > > > > from Israel> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 I don’t think that Monsanto owns Solgar. From what I understand they “almost†did but it never happened. I believe the following is fairly accurate and gives a picture of what is happening with many vitamin companies. One of the reasons that some are selling off to Big Corp/Big Pharma is because they don’t want the hassle/worry with the FDA and FTC who try to make examples of the smaller companies by going in and shutting them down for “making health claims†about herbs/vitamins. So, why not take a good offer and not have to deal with all the stress and worry of Big Pharma and Big Government? (However, they seem to be allowing Kellogg’s to advertise that Chocolate Rice Krispies provide antioxidants….if you look at the first ingredient you will see that it says SUGAR!) This is just another example of things not always being “as they seem.† Be Well - Dr.L Solgar is not a little family run business. NBTY owns Solgar.  Dance to the music of the global pharmas. (If you cannot be anonymous change your name! Or if you want to make it difficult to be sued change your name!) Holly at Raw Cuisine whose e-zine regularly carries varied and interesting items ran a piece on her website about Monsanto owning Solgar and was “warned off†by J Gormley, who wrote to her from Solgar as their Associate Director of Marketing. He says it is “completely false†that Monsanto and Solgar are in any way connected. He says “To reiterate, please be aware that the ridiculous Monsanto rumor that has been floating around (here and there) since at least 1999 is categorically false, and, in fact, couldn’t be further from the truth.†No it very nearly happened in 1998! And Solgar was owned by a very big Pharma from 1998 to 2005 There is a deliberate effort in his letter to give an untrue perspective on events – well he is a marketing man so no surprise there. There was a moment as you will see below when both companies were the target of an even larger pharma corporation’s attempted takeover. Solgar was acquired but the Monsanto takeover collapsed after several months of negotiations broke down. From his letter you would think Solgar was a nice little family run business. Not so, Solgar is part of a larger $2 billion group. J Gormley is from his letter to Holly associated with Citizens for Health as well as being adviser to Solgar. Citizens for Health is suspect. Citizens for Health appears to be an organization set up by vested interests to provide an ineffectual outlet for anti-codex activity. The case for this is set out below and more info from ( http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3312735.htm for a fuller expose. ) Seeing Through Spin of " Citizens for Health " and " The Natural Solutions Foundation " on the CODEX Vitamin Issue CONTROLLED OPPOSITION GROUPS " Citizens for Health " and " Natural Solutions Foundation " are controlled opposition groups on the Codex issue. We believe the true purpose of these groups is to assist the pharma dominated vitamin trade associations by recommending grass roots actions which appear plausible on the surface to the poorly informed, but which upon close inspection fail to hold up to careful scrutiny. We believe these groups are attempting to intentionally divert grass roots attention from the strategy of IAHF and allied organizations. In a nutshell, their mission is to: A) Con people into believing that we can change Codex AT Codex (despite the fact that we have zero political influence over the unelected bureaucrats from the FDA and its international equivalents that serve as delegates at these highly rigged meetings.) and Con people into believing that countries which adopt " Model Legislation " patterned after the US Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act would be " protected " in the event of a WTO Trade Dispute Ruling against them. ( , Esq., who originated this plan has failed to explain any viable legal mechanism to support his contention that this could work. * See IAHF's detailed analysis of CFH and NSF's " LEGAL SUMMARY " below. C) Con people into believing that they're " fighting back " by signing a petition to US Codex Manager Ed Scarbrough (an unelected bureaucrat at the USDA who has never attempted to rein in FDA officials who've served as US Delegates at CODEX (even when their actions have gone directly against US law.) Even when Scarbrough and the US Codex Delegates have obviously IGNORED this petition at recent Codex meetings, Citizens for Health and the Natural Solutions Foundation would still have us believe that signing it and sending it in to Scarbrough are a viable means of " fighting back. " D) Con people into believing that there is " no connection " between sovereignty destroying trade agreements such as NAFTA, CAFTA, FTAA and Codex in an obvious effort to keep people from exercising the political leverage that we DO have with CONGRESS (but which we DON'T have with unelected Codex bureaucrats from the world's FDA's.) Citizens for Health and now also the " Natural Solutions Foundation " have a long history of doing spin against true grass roots anti Codex campaigns. These groups are making ZERO EFFORT to alert the public to the dire need to oppose clear efforts to destroy America and to force us into a planned North American Union. It’s clear that their TRUE MOTIVE is to support the agenda of the large pharmaceutical companies that are controlling the vitamin trade associations from the top-down which WANT CODEX, which WANT one size fits all regulations for the planet. In this section we explore this and also explore the gross conflicts of interest inherent in these organizations which have very close ties with such pharma dominated vitamin trade associations as CRN, and NNFA……. So how did the rumored link between Solgar and Monsanto come about? In June 1998 it was announced that American Home Products (now Wyeth Corporation) would acquire Monsanto for $33.4 billion to become top seller of prescription drugs in the US and separately that it would acquire Solgar http://www.democracynow.org/1998/6/5/monsanto_and_american_home_products_merger  But the deal with Monsanto deal broke down in October 1998 http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A06E0DB143AF937A25753C1A96E958260 What then happened was that old Monsanto was broken up into three parts new Monsanto the agri-business, Pharmacia the pharma business and another company to hold all the legal problems old Monsanto had accumulated and some of which are still playing out. Pharmacia was then taken over by Pfizer to become the largest pharma research company in the world. But what of American Home Products? Well firstly they acquired Solgar in June 1998. You can see how close the possibility of Monsanto and Solgar being in bed together was to happening and also that it did not quite happen. At that time the possibility gave rise to a consumer outcry and campaigns. Who are American Home Products? They are now called Wyeth Corporation and are a Fortune 500 company with a turnover of $20.4 billion and employing over 50,000. They sold off Solgar for $115 million to NBTY (formerly Nature’s Bounty) in 2005. http://www.naturalfoodsmerchandiser.com/ArticlePage/tabid/66/itemid/1658/Default.aspx It was Solgar being taken over that gave rise to the creation of Viridian in 1999 where the owner is Cheryl Thallon. Cheryl has worked in the natural products industry since she was 21, working in health food stores. Trained as a journalist, she became editor of Natural Food Trader magazine in 1988, before joining Solgar Vitamins as Marketing Director in 1991 where she stayed for 8 years, until shortly after the company was sold to Wyeth. NBTY had a turnover in 2007 of just over $2.0 billion, has over 4 million square feet of operational buildings and employs 10,800 people as well as Solgar products it has all these “NBTY is a leading vertically integrated manufacturer and distributor of a broad line of high-quality, value-priced nutritional supplements in the United States and throughout the world. The Company markets approximately 2,000 products under several brands, including Nature's Bounty®, Vitamin World®, Puritan's Pride®, Holland & Barrett® UK, Rexall®, Sundown®, MET-Rx®, WORLDWIDE Sport Nutrition®, American Health®, GNC (UK)®, DeTuinen® Netherlands and Le Naturiste Canada. “ As far as who runs Solgar it is NBTY and the guys that run it are Rudolph who has shares worth about $120 million and Kamil Harvey who holds about $36m. Rand Skolnick CEO of Solgar is not even on the board of the NBTY holding company. NBTY are still picking up bargains in the health supplement world and have about 1150 stores in the US, Canada and Europe. They are now acquiring US bankrupt supplement company Leiner http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/stories/2008/06/09/daily38.html?jst=s_cn_hl (see related news on this page link) In the US NBTY has a shop chain Vitamin World and a mail order operation Puritan’s Pride, it has Le Naturiste stores in Canada, De Tuinen in Holland and Nature’s Way in Ireland. So as well as distributing they also sell through their own shops. Solgar in the UK is run through Boots Herbal Stores (not Boots the Chemist or Boots Company Plc) So getting to the UK and Holland and Barrett. How did they get into NBTY. They bought Holland and Barrett from German group GEHE Ag. Yes you got it in one - another huge pharma sold Holland and Barrett in August 1997. Gehe Ag is the 2nd largest wholesaler of pharmaceuticals in Germany. Yes like the others it has changed its name and is now called Celesio. It is a private family owned company owned by the Hanille family. It is one of the three largest drug wholesalers in Europe with 2300 drug stores (including Lloyds Pharmacy in the UK). It has a turnover of 22.4 billion euros and employs 37,000 staff. So many little brands like Solgar are not independent and so are not what they appear. What seems to be happening is a lot of positioning. Agri-businesses are being separated from pharmas, pharmas are divesting their supplement businesses. But even now supplement businesses are dominated about 70% by pharmas as Verkerk, Executive Director for the Alliance for Natural Health and Advisor to the National Health Federation team on Codex Alimentarius explained in his Alternative View presentation in April 2008 Double Jeopardy against Natural Health which you can purchase for £5 from http://www.ianrcrane.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd & productId=43 He explains why the vitamin and supplement sector has not squawked more about Codex Alimentarius ridiculous plans as it rather suits them to medicalize supplements and shows how it will creep in over the next few years. NBTY appears to be the chosen vehicle to acquire health supplement businesses. It could later become the vehicle for one or more pharmas to medicalize the health supplements as Codex bites in. Watch and expect increasing numbers of foods to be banned and classified as toxic in the next few years. Watch and expect that there will be increasing numbers of exposes of GE/GM contamination of health care products like this expose on Vitamin C and Solgar and others http://www.organicconsumers.org/ge/vitaminc.cfm The global pharmas are all waltzing around the Codex knowing that they only have to wait and important foods and all supplements will be banned or classified as drugs - as with this little circular logic Drug companies ripped off the lovastatin molecules from red yeast rice, then patented them. Once they achieved FDA approval for their " statin drugs , " it was easy to file a petition requesting the outlawing of red yeast rice, claiming the supplement was " adulterated " with drugs! Which drugs? Statin drugs, of course -- the very same drugs that were isolated from red yeast rice in the first place!_,_._,___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Put in the search words " solgar and wyeth " and you will see several links that prove Wyeth (a big pharmaceutical company) purchased Solgar some years back, and then NBTY offered to buy this Wyeth subsidy. In a nutshell, Big Pharma bought out major supplement companies. It is not a great loss in my opinion, as the best supplements are made by the small companies. What is bad news is that Big Pharma has designs on the entire supplement industry to make supplements expensive, unavailable, and/or in tiny dosages. Just look at Germany and France. A woman was arrested in France for having megadose Vitamin C (I believe it was only 1000 mg tablets). from Israel > > > I don’t think that Monsanto owns Solgar. From what I understand they “almost†did but it never happened. I believe the following is fairly accurate and gives a picture of what is happening with many vitamin companies. One of the reasons that some are selling off to Big Corp/Big Pharma is because they don’t want the hassle/worry with the FDA and FTC who try to make examples of the smaller companies by going in and shutting them down for “making health claims†about herbs/vitamins. So, why not take a good offer and not have to deal with all the stress and worry of Big Pharma and Big Government? (However, they seem to be allowing Kellogg’s to advertise that Chocolate Rice Krispies provide antioxidants….if you look at the first ingredient you will see that it says SUGAR!) > > > > > > This is just another example of things not always being “as they seem.†Be Well - Dr.L > > > Solgar is not a little family run business. NBTY owns Solgar. Dance to the music of the global pharmas. > > (If you cannot be anonymous change your name! Or if you want to make it difficult to be sued change your name!) > > Holly at Raw Cuisine whose e-zine regularly carries varied and interesting items ran a piece on her website about Monsanto owning Solgar and was “warned off†by J Gormley, who wrote to her from Solgar as their Associate Director of Marketing. > He says it is “completely false†that Monsanto and Solgar are in any way connected. He says “To reiterate, please be aware that the ridiculous Monsanto rumor that has been floating around (here and there) since at least 1999 is categorically false, and, in fact, couldn’t be further from the truth.†No it very nearly happened in 1998! And Solgar was owned by a very big Pharma from 1998 to 2005 > There is a deliberate effort in his letter to give an untrue perspective on events †" well he is a marketing man so no surprise there. There was a moment as you will see below when both companies were the target of an even larger pharma corporation’s attempted takeover. Solgar was acquired but the Monsanto takeover collapsed after several months of negotiations broke down. > > From his letter you would think Solgar was a nice little family run business. Not so, Solgar is part of a larger $2 billion group. > > J Gormley is from his letter to Holly associated with Citizens for Health as well as being adviser to Solgar. Citizens for Health is suspect. Citizens for Health appears to be an organization set up by vested interests to provide an ineffectual outlet for anti-codex activity. The case for this is set out below and more info from > ( <http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3312735.htm> http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3312735.htm for a fuller expose. ) > > Seeing Through Spin of " Citizens for Health " and " The Natural Solutions Foundation " on the CODEX Vitamin Issue > CONTROLLED OPPOSITION GROUPS > " Citizens for Health " and " Natural Solutions Foundation " are controlled opposition groups on the Codex issue. We believe the true purpose of these groups is to assist the pharma dominated vitamin trade associations by recommending grass roots actions which appear plausible on the surface to the poorly informed, but which upon close inspection fail to hold up to careful scrutiny. > We believe these groups are attempting to intentionally divert grass roots attention from the strategy of IAHF and allied organizations. In a nutshell, their mission is to: > A) Con people into believing that we can change Codex AT Codex (despite the fact that we have zero political influence over the unelected bureaucrats from the FDA and its international equivalents that serve as delegates at these highly rigged meetings.) and > Con people into believing that countries which adopt " Model Legislation " patterned after the US Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act would be " protected " in the event of a WTO Trade Dispute Ruling against them. ( , Esq., who originated this plan has failed to explain any viable legal mechanism to support his contention that this could work. * See IAHF's detailed analysis of CFH and NSF's " LEGAL SUMMARY " below. > C) Con people into believing that they're " fighting back " by signing a petition to US Codex Manager Ed Scarbrough (an unelected bureaucrat at the USDA who has never attempted to rein in FDA officials who've served as US Delegates at CODEX (even when their actions have gone directly against US law.) > Even when Scarbrough and the US Codex Delegates have obviously IGNORED this petition at recent Codex meetings, Citizens for Health and the Natural Solutions Foundation would still have us believe that signing it and sending it in to Scarbrough are a viable means of " fighting back. " > D) Con people into believing that there is " no connection " between sovereignty destroying trade agreements such as NAFTA, CAFTA, FTAA and Codex in an obvious effort to keep people from exercising the political leverage that we DO have with CONGRESS (but which we DON'T have with unelected Codex bureaucrats from the world's FDA's.) Citizens for Health and now also the " Natural Solutions Foundation " have a long history of doing spin against true grass roots anti Codex campaigns. > These groups are making ZERO EFFORT to alert the public to the dire need to oppose clear efforts to destroy America and to force us into a planned North American Union. > It’s clear that their TRUE MOTIVE is to support the agenda of the large pharmaceutical companies that are controlling the vitamin trade associations from the top-down which WANT CODEX, which WANT one size fits all regulations for the planet. In this section we explore this and also explore the gross conflicts of interest inherent in these organizations which have very close ties with such pharma dominated vitamin trade associations as CRN, and NNFA……. > So how did the rumored link between Solgar and Monsanto come about? > In June 1998 it was announced that American Home Products (now Wyeth Corporation) would acquire Monsanto for $33.4 billion to become top seller of prescription drugs in the US and separately that it would acquire Solgar > <http://www.democracynow.org/1998/6/5/monsanto_and_american_home_products_merger\ > http://www.democracynow.org/1998/6/5/monsanto_and_american_home_products_merger > But the deal with Monsanto deal broke down in October 1998 > <http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A06E0DB143AF937A25753C1A96E9582\ 60> http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A06E0DB143AF937A25753C1A96E95826\ 0 > What then happened was that old Monsanto was broken up into three parts new Monsanto the agri-business, Pharmacia the pharma business and another company to hold all the legal problems old Monsanto had accumulated and some of which are still playing out. > Pharmacia was then taken over by Pfizer to become the largest pharma research company in the world. > But what of American Home Products? Well firstly they acquired Solgar in June 1998. You can see how close the possibility of Monsanto and Solgar being in bed together was to happening and also that it did not quite happen. At that time the possibility gave rise to a consumer outcry and campaigns. > Who are American Home Products? They are now called Wyeth Corporation and are a Fortune 500 company with a turnover of $20.4 billion and employing over 50,000. They sold off Solgar for $115 million to NBTY (formerly Nature’s Bounty) in 2005. > <http://www.naturalfoodsmerchandiser.com/ArticlePage/tabid/66/itemid/1658/Defaul\ t.aspx> http://www.naturalfoodsmerchandiser.com/ArticlePage/tabid/66/itemid/1658/Default\ ..aspx > It was Solgar being taken over that gave rise to the creation of Viridian in 1999 where the owner is Cheryl Thallon. Cheryl has worked in the natural products industry since she was 21, working in health food stores. Trained as a journalist, she became editor of Natural Food Trader magazine in 1988, before joining Solgar Vitamins as Marketing Director in 1991 where she stayed for 8 years, until shortly after the company was sold to Wyeth. > NBTY had a turnover in 2007 of just over $2.0 billion, has over 4 million square feet of operational buildings and employs 10,800 people as well as Solgar products it has all these > “NBTY is a leading vertically integrated manufacturer and distributor of a broad line of high-quality, value-priced nutritional supplements in the United States and throughout the world. The Company markets approximately 2,000 products under several brands, including Nature's Bounty®, Vitamin World®, Puritan's Pride®, Holland & Barrett® UK, Rexall®, Sundown®, MET-Rx®, WORLDWIDE Sport Nutrition®, American Health®, GNC (UK)®, DeTuinen® Netherlands and Le Naturiste Canada. “ > As far as who runs Solgar it is NBTY and the guys that run it are Rudolph who has shares worth about $120 million and Kamil Harvey who holds about $36m. Rand Skolnick CEO of Solgar is not even on the board of the NBTY holding company. > NBTY are still picking up bargains in the health supplement world and have about 1150 stores in the US, Canada and Europe. They are now acquiring US bankrupt supplement company Leiner > <http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/stories/2008/05/12/daily16.html?jst=s_cn_h\ l> http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/stories/2008/06/09/daily38.html?jst=s_cn_hl (see related news on this page link) > In the US NBTY has a shop chain Vitamin World and a mail order operation Puritan’s Pride, it has Le Naturiste stores in Canada, De Tuinen in Holland and Nature’s Way in Ireland. So as well as distributing they also sell through their own shops. Solgar in the UK is run through Boots Herbal Stores (not Boots the Chemist or Boots Company Plc) > So getting to the UK and Holland and Barrett. How did they get into NBTY. They bought Holland and Barrett from German group GEHE Ag. Yes you got it in one - another huge pharma sold Holland and Barrett in August 1997. Gehe Ag is the 2nd largest wholesaler of pharmaceuticals in Germany. Yes like the others it has changed its name and is now called Celesio. It is a private family owned company owned by the Hanille family. It is one of the three largest drug wholesalers in Europe with 2300 drug stores (including Lloyds Pharmacy in the UK). It has a turnover of 22.4 billion euros and employs 37,000 staff. > So many little brands like Solgar are not independent and so are not what they appear. What seems to be happening is a lot of positioning. Agri-businesses are being separated from pharmas, pharmas are divesting their supplement businesses. But even now supplement businesses are dominated about 70% by pharmas as Verkerk, Executive Director for the Alliance for Natural Health and Advisor to the National Health Federation team on Codex Alimentarius explained in his Alternative View presentation in April 2008 Double Jeopardy against Natural Health which you can purchase for £5 from http://www.ianrcrane.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd & productId=43 He explains why the vitamin and supplement sector has not squawked more about Codex Alimentarius ridiculous plans as it rather suits them to medicalize supplements and shows how it will creep in over the next few years. > NBTY appears to be the chosen vehicle to acquire health supplement businesses. It could later become the vehicle for one or more pharmas to medicalize the health supplements as Codex bites in. > Watch and expect increasing numbers of foods to be banned and classified as toxic in the next few years. > Watch and expect that there will be increasing numbers of exposes of GE/GM contamination of health care products like this expose on Vitamin C and Solgar and others > <http://www.organicconsumers.org/ge/vitaminc.cfm> http://www.organicconsumers.org/ge/vitaminc.cfm > The global pharmas are all waltzing around the Codex knowing that they only have to wait and important foods and all supplements will be banned or classified as drugs - as with this little circular logic > Drug companies ripped off the lovastatin molecules from red yeast rice, then patented them. Once they achieved FDA approval for their " <http://www.naturalnews.com/statin_drugs.html> statin drugs > , " it was easy to file a petition requesting the outlawing of red yeast rice, claiming the supplement was " adulterated " with drugs! Which drugs? Statin drugs, of course -- the very same drugs that were isolated from red yeast rice in the first place!_,_._,___ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 , What long-lived tribes are you referring to? The oldest man in the world is only 113, and lives in Montana. Generally speaking, longevity is enhanced by eating only God's creations. This way, we do not rot away as quickly. from Israel > > > > > > > > > > > > We know that the companion nutrients are needed to make iodine effective. So maybe as you added them it started to work by kicking out toxins and beginning to be used by the thyroid. Your thyroid is in your neck not your chest so you comment about swelling and thyroid doesn't make sense to me. It is normal for your hormones to go " whacky " when taking iodoral as ever gland and mucosal lining use iodine (adrenals, ovaries, uterus - all control sex hormones). > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the dosage recommendations: > > > > > > > > > > > > Magnesium 400 mgs > > > > > > Vit C 3,000 - 5,000 mgs > > > > > > Selenium 200 - 400 mcg > > > > > > Unrefined salt 1/2 tsp + using liberally on food. > > > > > > > > > > > > Other beneficial things I have found: > > > > > > > > > > > > Kroeger Herbs Sunny A - 25,000 iU from fish and carrots > > > > > > BalanCe - www.vrp.com a vit C supplement containing Vit C, Potassium, Magnesium, Calcium I feel best taking 1-2 scoops 2x per day (I have to work up to that amount for bowel tolerance) > > > > > > B6 Complex - I take Pure Encapsulations > > > > > > > > > > > > Keep in mind most of us are HIGHLY toxic and when you get things moving you will get a healing crisis. I have lived them for years as I work on each new thing. You are always a work in process. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I right or wrong about iodine? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I started taking it about 5 months ago and really thought it could help resolve A LOT of issues I was having, mainly weight gain, sluggishness and constipation. I read up on it and bought Brownstein's book. > > > > > > > > > > > > I started out with 50mg/day and stayed there without missing a dosage. Early on I began B2, B3 and Vit C. I had been taking mag malate for a few years and recently upped my dosage of it. More recently I started taking selenium, even though it's in my liquid vitamin. > > > > > > > > > > > > I started seeing my symptoms get worse and my cycle went absolutely haywire where it has been very normal for years and years. Especially problemsome (is that a word? is the weight gain and constipation. > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday was the last day I took 50mg and went 2 days with taking none. Then for the last 2 days I took 12.5mg. I've had a 'cramp' in my upper chest (like it's my thyroid swelling or something)and just a general unease. > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know which way to go. I feel like I'm pushing myself right into taking the hormone and I started taking iodine specifically so I would NOT have to do that! > > > > > > > > > > > > I read here that many are having the same problems as me so it seems the iodine is having an opposite effect from what we thought it would do. > > > > > > > > > > > > I kinda feel like I'm going nuts here and would love some help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 , you can buy 1000mg Vit C OTC in France. It is not against the law over here > > > > > > I don’t think that Monsanto owns Solgar. From what I understand they “almost†did but it never happened. I believe the following is fairly accurate and gives a picture of what is happening with many vitamin companies. One of the reasons that some are selling off to Big Corp/Big Pharma is because they don’t want the hassle/worry with the FDA and FTC who try to make examples of the smaller companies by going in and shutting them down for “making health claims†about herbs/vitamins. So, why not take a good offer and not have to deal with all the stress and worry of Big Pharma and Big Government? (However, they seem to be allowing Kellogg’s to advertise that Chocolate Rice Krispies provide antioxidants….if you look at the first ingredient you will see that it says SUGAR!) > > > > > > > > > > > > This is just another example of things not always being “as they seem.†Be Well - Dr.L > > > > > > Solgar is not a little family run business. NBTY owns Solgar. Dance to the music of the global pharmas. > > > > (If you cannot be anonymous change your name! Or if you want to make it difficult to be sued change your name!) > > > > Holly at Raw Cuisine whose e-zine regularly carries varied and interesting items ran a piece on her website about Monsanto owning Solgar and was “warned off†by J Gormley, who wrote to her from Solgar as their Associate Director of Marketing. > > He says it is “completely false†that Monsanto and Solgar are in any way connected. He says “To reiterate, please be aware that the ridiculous Monsanto rumor that has been floating around (here and there) since at least 1999 is categorically false, and, in fact, couldn’t be further from the truth.†No it very nearly happened in 1998! And Solgar was owned by a very big Pharma from 1998 to 2005 > > There is a deliberate effort in his letter to give an untrue perspective on events †" well he is a marketing man so no surprise there. There was a moment as you will see below when both companies were the target of an even larger pharma corporation’s attempted takeover. Solgar was acquired but the Monsanto takeover collapsed after several months of negotiations broke down. > > > > From his letter you would think Solgar was a nice little family run business. Not so, Solgar is part of a larger $2 billion group. > > > > J Gormley is from his letter to Holly associated with Citizens for Health as well as being adviser to Solgar. Citizens for Health is suspect. Citizens for Health appears to be an organization set up by vested interests to provide an ineffectual outlet for anti-codex activity. The case for this is set out below and more info from > > ( <http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3312735.htm> http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3312735.htm for a fuller expose. ) > > > > Seeing Through Spin of " Citizens for Health " and " The Natural Solutions Foundation " on the CODEX Vitamin Issue > > CONTROLLED OPPOSITION GROUPS > > " Citizens for Health " and " Natural Solutions Foundation " are controlled opposition groups on the Codex issue. We believe the true purpose of these groups is to assist the pharma dominated vitamin trade associations by recommending grass roots actions which appear plausible on the surface to the poorly informed, but which upon close inspection fail to hold up to careful scrutiny. > > We believe these groups are attempting to intentionally divert grass roots attention from the strategy of IAHF and allied organizations. In a nutshell, their mission is to: > > A) Con people into believing that we can change Codex AT Codex (despite the fact that we have zero political influence over the unelected bureaucrats from the FDA and its international equivalents that serve as delegates at these highly rigged meetings.) and > > Con people into believing that countries which adopt " Model Legislation " patterned after the US Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act would be " protected " in the event of a WTO Trade Dispute Ruling against them. ( , Esq., who originated this plan has failed to explain any viable legal mechanism to support his contention that this could work. * See IAHF's detailed analysis of CFH and NSF's " LEGAL SUMMARY " below. > > C) Con people into believing that they're " fighting back " by signing a petition to US Codex Manager Ed Scarbrough (an unelected bureaucrat at the USDA who has never attempted to rein in FDA officials who've served as US Delegates at CODEX (even when their actions have gone directly against US law.) > > Even when Scarbrough and the US Codex Delegates have obviously IGNORED this petition at recent Codex meetings, Citizens for Health and the Natural Solutions Foundation would still have us believe that signing it and sending it in to Scarbrough are a viable means of " fighting back. " > > D) Con people into believing that there is " no connection " between sovereignty destroying trade agreements such as NAFTA, CAFTA, FTAA and Codex in an obvious effort to keep people from exercising the political leverage that we DO have with CONGRESS (but which we DON'T have with unelected Codex bureaucrats from the world's FDA's.) Citizens for Health and now also the " Natural Solutions Foundation " have a long history of doing spin against true grass roots anti Codex campaigns. > > These groups are making ZERO EFFORT to alert the public to the dire need to oppose clear efforts to destroy America and to force us into a planned North American Union. > > It’s clear that their TRUE MOTIVE is to support the agenda of the large pharmaceutical companies that are controlling the vitamin trade associations from the top-down which WANT CODEX, which WANT one size fits all regulations for the planet. In this section we explore this and also explore the gross conflicts of interest inherent in these organizations which have very close ties with such pharma dominated vitamin trade associations as CRN, and NNFA……. > > So how did the rumored link between Solgar and Monsanto come about? > > In June 1998 it was announced that American Home Products (now Wyeth Corporation) would acquire Monsanto for $33.4 billion to become top seller of prescription drugs in the US and separately that it would acquire Solgar > > <http://www.democracynow.org/1998/6/5/monsanto_and_american_home_products_merger\ > http://www.democracynow.org/1998/6/5/monsanto_and_american_home_products_merger > > But the deal with Monsanto deal broke down in October 1998 > > <http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A06E0DB143AF937A25753C1A96E9582\ 60> http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A06E0DB143AF937A25753C1A96E95826\ 0 > > What then happened was that old Monsanto was broken up into three parts new Monsanto the agri-business, Pharmacia the pharma business and another company to hold all the legal problems old Monsanto had accumulated and some of which are still playing out. > > Pharmacia was then taken over by Pfizer to become the largest pharma research company in the world. > > But what of American Home Products? Well firstly they acquired Solgar in June 1998. You can see how close the possibility of Monsanto and Solgar being in bed together was to happening and also that it did not quite happen. At that time the possibility gave rise to a consumer outcry and campaigns. > > Who are American Home Products? They are now called Wyeth Corporation and are a Fortune 500 company with a turnover of $20.4 billion and employing over 50,000. They sold off Solgar for $115 million to NBTY (formerly Nature’s Bounty) in 2005. > > <http://www.naturalfoodsmerchandiser.com/ArticlePage/tabid/66/itemid/1658/Defaul\ t.aspx> http://www.naturalfoodsmerchandiser.com/ArticlePage/tabid/66/itemid/1658/Default\ ..aspx > > It was Solgar being taken over that gave rise to the creation of Viridian in 1999 where the owner is Cheryl Thallon. Cheryl has worked in the natural products industry since she was 21, working in health food stores. Trained as a journalist, she became editor of Natural Food Trader magazine in 1988, before joining Solgar Vitamins as Marketing Director in 1991 where she stayed for 8 years, until shortly after the company was sold to Wyeth. > > NBTY had a turnover in 2007 of just over $2.0 billion, has over 4 million square feet of operational buildings and employs 10,800 people as well as Solgar products it has all these > > “NBTY is a leading vertically integrated manufacturer and distributor of a broad line of high-quality, value-priced nutritional supplements in the United States and throughout the world. The Company markets approximately 2,000 products under several brands, including Nature's Bounty®, Vitamin World®, Puritan's Pride®, Holland & Barrett® UK, Rexall®, Sundown®, MET-Rx®, WORLDWIDE Sport Nutrition®, American Health®, GNC (UK)®, DeTuinen® Netherlands and Le Naturiste Canada. “ > > As far as who runs Solgar it is NBTY and the guys that run it are Rudolph who has shares worth about $120 million and Kamil Harvey who holds about $36m. Rand Skolnick CEO of Solgar is not even on the board of the NBTY holding company. > > NBTY are still picking up bargains in the health supplement world and have about 1150 stores in the US, Canada and Europe. They are now acquiring US bankrupt supplement company Leiner > > <http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/stories/2008/05/12/daily16.html?jst=s_cn_h\ l> http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/stories/2008/06/09/daily38.html?jst=s_cn_hl (see related news on this page link) > > In the US NBTY has a shop chain Vitamin World and a mail order operation Puritan’s Pride, it has Le Naturiste stores in Canada, De Tuinen in Holland and Nature’s Way in Ireland. So as well as distributing they also sell through their own shops. Solgar in the UK is run through Boots Herbal Stores (not Boots the Chemist or Boots Company Plc) > > So getting to the UK and Holland and Barrett. How did they get into NBTY. They bought Holland and Barrett from German group GEHE Ag. Yes you got it in one - another huge pharma sold Holland and Barrett in August 1997. Gehe Ag is the 2nd largest wholesaler of pharmaceuticals in Germany. Yes like the others it has changed its name and is now called Celesio. It is a private family owned company owned by the Hanille family. It is one of the three largest drug wholesalers in Europe with 2300 drug stores (including Lloyds Pharmacy in the UK). It has a turnover of 22.4 billion euros and employs 37,000 staff. > > So many little brands like Solgar are not independent and so are not what they appear. What seems to be happening is a lot of positioning. Agri-businesses are being separated from pharmas, pharmas are divesting their supplement businesses. But even now supplement businesses are dominated about 70% by pharmas as Verkerk, Executive Director for the Alliance for Natural Health and Advisor to the National Health Federation team on Codex Alimentarius explained in his Alternative View presentation in April 2008 Double Jeopardy against Natural Health which you can purchase for £5 from http://www.ianrcrane.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd & productId=43 He explains why the vitamin and supplement sector has not squawked more about Codex Alimentarius ridiculous plans as it rather suits them to medicalize supplements and shows how it will creep in over the next few years. > > NBTY appears to be the chosen vehicle to acquire health supplement businesses. It could later become the vehicle for one or more pharmas to medicalize the health supplements as Codex bites in. > > Watch and expect increasing numbers of foods to be banned and classified as toxic in the next few years. > > Watch and expect that there will be increasing numbers of exposes of GE/GM contamination of health care products like this expose on Vitamin C and Solgar and others > > <http://www.organicconsumers.org/ge/vitaminc.cfm> http://www.organicconsumers.org/ge/vitaminc.cfm > > The global pharmas are all waltzing around the Codex knowing that they only have to wait and important foods and all supplements will be banned or classified as drugs - as with this little circular logic > > Drug companies ripped off the lovastatin molecules from red yeast rice, then patented them. Once they achieved FDA approval for their " <http://www.naturalnews.com/statin_drugs.html> statin drugs > > , " it was easy to file a petition requesting the outlawing of red yeast rice, claiming the supplement was " adulterated " with drugs! Which drugs? Statin drugs, of course -- the very same drugs that were isolated from red yeast rice in the first place!_,_._,___ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Okinawan islanders are apparently the leaders in longevity. There are other small groups which have been studied which have excellent health and logevity and use herbs when ill. But they are not very "advanced" technologically? Maybe that's the answer..a simpler lifestyle? From: Yochanan <yburkett@...>Subject: Re: codexiodine Date: Saturday, 14 November, 2009, 8:38 , What long-lived tribes are you referring to? The oldest man in the world is only 113, and lives in Montana. Generally speaking, longevity is enhanced by eating only God's creations. This way, we do not rot away as quickly. from Israel> > > > > >> > > > > > We know that the companion nutrients are needed to make iodine effective. So maybe as you added them it started to work by kicking out toxins and beginning to be used by the thyroid. Your thyroid is in your neck not your chest so you comment about swelling and thyroid doesn't make sense to me. It is normal for your hormones to go "whacky" when taking iodoral as ever gland and mucosal lining use iodine (adrenals, ovaries, uterus - all control sex hormones). > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the dosage recommendations:> > > > > > > > > > > > Magnesium 400 mgs> > > > > > Vit C 3,000 - 5,000 mgs> > > > > > Selenium 200 - 400 mcg> > > > > > Unrefined salt 1/2 tsp + using liberally on food.> > > > > > > > > > > > Other beneficial things I have found:> > > > > > > > > > > > Kroeger Herbs Sunny A - 25,000 iU from fish and carrots> > > > > > BalanCe - www.vrp.com a vit C supplement containing Vit C, Potassium, Magnesium, Calcium I feel best taking 1-2 scoops 2x per day (I have to work up to that amount for bowel tolerance)> > > > > > B6 Complex - I take Pure Encapsulations> > > > > > > > > > > > Keep in mind most of us are HIGHLY toxic and when you get things moving you will get a healing crisis. I have lived them for years as I work on each new thing. You are always a work in process.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I right or wrong about iodine?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I started taking it about 5 months ago and really thought it could help resolve A LOT of issues I was having, mainly weight gain, sluggishness and constipation. I read up on it and bought Brownstein's book.> > > > > > > > > > > > I started out with 50mg/day and stayed there without missing a dosage. Early on I began B2, B3 and Vit C. I had been taking mag malate for a few years and recently upped my dosage of it. More recently I started taking selenium, even though it's in my liquid vitamin.> > > > > > > > > > > > I started seeing my symptoms get worse and my cycle went absolutely haywire where it has been very normal for years and years. Especially problemsome (is that a word? is the weight gain and constipation.> > > > > > > > > > > > Friday was the last day I took 50mg and went 2 days with taking none. Then for the last 2 days I took 12.5mg. I've had a 'cramp' in my upper chest (like it's my thyroid swelling or something)and just a general unease.> > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know which way to go. I feel like I'm pushing myself right into taking the hormone and I started taking iodine specifically so I would NOT have to do that!> > > > > > > > > > > > I read here that many are having the same problems as me so it seems the iodine is having an opposite effect from what we thought it would do.> > > > > > > > > > > > I kinda feel like I'm going nuts here and would love some help.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 , There is some religious group in the US which doesn't have vaccines and don't have any autism among their children. Name escapes me at present. . From: Yochanan <yburkett@...>Subject: Re: codexiodine Date: Saturday, 14 November, 2009, 8:38 , What long-lived tribes are you referring to? The oldest man in the world is only 113, and lives in Montana. Generally speaking, longevity is enhanced by eating only God's creations. This way, we do not rot away as quickly. from Israel> > > > > >> > > > > > We know that the companion nutrients are needed to make iodine effective. So maybe as you added them it started to work by kicking out toxins and beginning to be used by the thyroid. Your thyroid is in your neck not your chest so you comment about swelling and thyroid doesn't make sense to me. It is normal for your hormones to go "whacky" when taking iodoral as ever gland and mucosal lining use iodine (adrenals, ovaries, uterus - all control sex hormones). > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the dosage recommendations:> > > > > > > > > > > > Magnesium 400 mgs> > > > > > Vit C 3,000 - 5,000 mgs> > > > > > Selenium 200 - 400 mcg> > > > > > Unrefined salt 1/2 tsp + using liberally on food.> > > > > > > > > > > > Other beneficial things I have found:> > > > > > > > > > > > Kroeger Herbs Sunny A - 25,000 iU from fish and carrots> > > > > > BalanCe - www.vrp.com a vit C supplement containing Vit C, Potassium, Magnesium, Calcium I feel best taking 1-2 scoops 2x per day (I have to work up to that amount for bowel tolerance)> > > > > > B6 Complex - I take Pure Encapsulations> > > > > > > > > > > > Keep in mind most of us are HIGHLY toxic and when you get things moving you will get a healing crisis. I have lived them for years as I work on each new thing. You are always a work in process.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I right or wrong about iodine?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I started taking it about 5 months ago and really thought it could help resolve A LOT of issues I was having, mainly weight gain, sluggishness and constipation. I read up on it and bought Brownstein's book.> > > > > > > > > > > > I started out with 50mg/day and stayed there without missing a dosage. Early on I began B2, B3 and Vit C. I had been taking mag malate for a few years and recently upped my dosage of it. More recently I started taking selenium, even though it's in my liquid vitamin.> > > > > > > > > > > > I started seeing my symptoms get worse and my cycle went absolutely haywire where it has been very normal for years and years. Especially problemsome (is that a word? is the weight gain and constipation.> > > > > > > > > > > > Friday was the last day I took 50mg and went 2 days with taking none. Then for the last 2 days I took 12.5mg. I've had a 'cramp' in my upper chest (like it's my thyroid swelling or something)and just a general unease.> > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know which way to go. I feel like I'm pushing myself right into taking the hormone and I started taking iodine specifically so I would NOT have to do that!> > > > > > > > > > > > I read here that many are having the same problems as me so it seems the iodine is having an opposite effect from what we thought it would do.> > > > > > > > > > > > I kinda feel like I'm going nuts here and would love some help.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 It has been reported that the amish community has a much lower than average incidence of autism. And the cases of autism within that community can be traced to vaccinated children. A few amish people do vaccinate. Probably convinced it was necessary by the fear instilled from vaccine marketing. Cheryl > > , > There is some religious group in the US which doesn't have vaccines and don't have > any autism among their children. Name escapes me at present. > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Hi,Below is a link describing the hunzas and their amazing longevity.http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Lhunzadiet2.htmRegards, Bastida From: Yochanan <yburkett (DOT) com>Subject: Re: codexiodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Saturday, 14 November, 2009, 8:38 , What long-lived tribes are you referring to? The oldest man in the world is only 113, and lives in Montana. Generally speaking, longevity is enhanced by eating only God's creations. This way, we do not rot away as quickly. from Israel> > > > > >> > > > > > We know that the companion nutrients are needed to make iodine effective. So maybe as you added them it started to work by kicking out toxins and beginning to be used by the thyroid. Your thyroid is in your neck not your chest so you comment about swelling and thyroid doesn't make sense to me. It is normal for your hormones to go "whacky" when taking iodoral as ever gland and mucosal lining use iodine (adrenals, ovaries, uterus - all control sex hormones). > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the dosage recommendations:> > > > > > > > > > > > Magnesium 400 mgs> > > > > > Vit C 3,000 - 5,000 mgs> > > > > > Selenium 200 - 400 mcg> > > > > > Unrefined salt 1/2 tsp + using liberally on food.> > > > > > > > > > > > Other beneficial things I have found:> > > > > > > > > > > > Kroeger Herbs Sunny A - 25,000 iU from fish and carrots> > > > > > BalanCe - www.vrp.com a vit C supplement containing Vit C, Potassium, Magnesium, Calcium I feel best taking 1-2 scoops 2x per day (I have to work up to that amount for bowel tolerance)> > > > > > B6 Complex - I take Pure Encapsulations> > > > > > > > > > > > Keep in mind most of us are HIGHLY toxic and when you get things moving you will get a healing crisis. I have lived them for years as I work on each new thing. You are always a work in process.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I right or wrong about iodine?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I started taking it about 5 months ago and really thought it could help resolve A LOT of issues I was having, mainly weight gain, sluggishness and constipation. I read up on it and bought Brownstein's book.> > > > > > > > > > > > I started out with 50mg/day and stayed there without missing a dosage. Early on I began B2, B3 and Vit C. I had been taking mag malate for a few years and recently upped my dosage of it. More recently I started taking selenium, even though it's in my liquid vitamin.> > > > > > > > > > > > I started seeing my symptoms get worse and my cycle went absolutely haywire where it has been very normal for years and years. Especially problemsome (is that a word? is the weight gain and constipation.> > > > > > > > > > > > Friday was the last day I took 50mg and went 2 days with taking none. Then for the last 2 days I took 12.5mg. I've had a 'cramp' in my upper chest (like it's my thyroid swelling or something)and just a general unease.> > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know which way to go. I feel like I'm pushing myself right into taking the hormone and I started taking iodine specifically so I would NOT have to do that!> > > > > > > > > > > > I read here that many are having the same problems as me so it seems the iodine is having an opposite effect from what we thought it would do.> > > > > > > > > > > > I kinda feel like I'm going nuts here and would love some help.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 , did you read my entire post? It says exactly what you said below. However, in a previous post, you said that Monsanto owns Solgar and that is not correct. That is how rumors get started. The best supplements do come from smaller companies. I totally agree! Actually the supplements coming from Big Pharma will be less expensive because of all the chemical excipients, binders and fillers that are used in the products along with the fact that the vitamin portions are usually synthetic. Chemicals are cheap; natural food sourced vitamins are more expensive. I understand that money is tight for everyone (businesses included) but cheaper does not mean better, especially in the supplement industry and especially when it comes to one's health. Be Well Dr.L -----Original Message----- Put in the search words " solgar and wyeth " and you will see several links that prove Wyeth (a big pharmaceutical company) purchased Solgar some years back, and then NBTY offered to buy this Wyeth subsidy. In a nutshell, Big Pharma bought out major supplement companies. It is not a great loss in my opinion, as the best supplements are made by the small companies. What is bad news is that Big Pharma has designs on the entire supplement industry to make supplements expensive, unavailable, and/or in tiny dosages. Just look at Germany and France. A woman was arrested in France for having megadose Vitamin C (I believe it was only 1000 mg tablets). from Israel > > > I donâ?Tt think that Monsanto owns Solgar. From what I understand they > â?oalmostâ? did but it never happened. I believe the following is fairly > accurate and gives a picture of what is happening with many vitamin > companies. One of the reasons that some are selling off to Big Corp/Big > Pharma is because they donâ?Tt want the hassle/worry with the FDA and FTC > who try to make examples of the smaller companies by going in and shutting > them down for â?omaking health claimsâ? about herbs/vitamins. So, why not > take a good offer and not have to deal with all the stress and worry of Big > Pharma and Big Government? (However, they seem to be allowing Kelloggâ?Ts > to advertise that Chocolate Rice Krispies provide antioxidantsâ?¦.if you > look at the first ingredient you will see that it says SUGAR!) > This is just another example of things not always being â?oas they seem.â? > Be Well - Dr.L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Cheryl, Thats it. The Amish. Apparently being studied to understand how they can remain so healthy without taking Pharma products? From: cheryl_b_1 <mossyforrest@...>Subject: Re: codexiodine Date: Saturday, 14 November, 2009, 13:44 It has been reported that the amish community has a much lower than average incidence of autism. And the cases of autism within that community can be traced to vaccinated children. A few amish people do vaccinate. Probably convinced it was necessary by the fear instilled from vaccine marketing.Cheryl >> ,> There is some religious group in the US which doesn't have vaccines and don't have > any autism among their children. Name escapes me at present.> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Loretta, I never said Monsanto purchased Solgar; someone else did. from Israel > > > > > > I donâ?Tt think that Monsanto owns Solgar. From what I understand they > > â?oalmostâ? did but it never happened. I believe the following is fairly > > accurate and gives a picture of what is happening with many vitamin > > companies. One of the reasons that some are selling off to Big Corp/Big > > Pharma is because they donâ?Tt want the hassle/worry with the FDA and FTC > > who try to make examples of the smaller companies by going in and shutting > > them down for â?omaking health claimsâ? about herbs/vitamins. So, why not > > take a good offer and not have to deal with all the stress and worry of Big > > Pharma and Big Government? (However, they seem to be allowing Kelloggâ?Ts > > to advertise that Chocolate Rice Krispies provide antioxidantsâ?¦.if you > > look at the first ingredient you will see that it says SUGAR!) > > This is just another example of things not always being â?oas they seem.â? > > Be Well - Dr.L > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 I read somewhere that the lower autism rates in Amish children was n ot true. I will try to find it. I think they also have a higher rate of genetic disorders. Adrienne. > > > > , > > There is some religious group in the US which doesn't have vaccines and don't have > > any autism among their children. Name escapes me at present. > > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 I found it. http://autism.about.com/b/2008/04/23/do-the-amish-vaccinate-indeed-they-do-and-t\ heir-autism-rates-may-be-lower.htm Adrienne > > > > > > , > > > There is some religious group in the US which doesn't have vaccines and don't have > > > any autism among their children. Name escapes me at present. > > > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Adrienne. Yes, that clarifies matters. However I would suggest that there are tribes of people who do not vaccinate and do not get the myriad disorders that we get. They may get other things which are innate to their locality. One example comes to mind . Hardly fits the description of tribe. But apparently the Chinese have a miniscule number of incidents of breast cancer? One lady scientist whom I heard on the radio talk about her experience:. She developed a golf ball size growth in her breast. She reflected on the chinese experience. and decided that why incidents of breast cancer were so low was because they don't drink milk or have much dairy products. At least in the part where she was. So she cut out milk and in a week the golf ball had reduced to a tiny little lump. The cancer expert on the program also a woman said that she had no research to say one way or the other whether this might be true. The subtext being and not likely to be investigated any time soon. I mean who wants simple cures like that. We have got a whole team of experts and laboratories and hospitals which would all go to waste if people were to use such simple discoveries. From: adrienneobbard <adrienneobbard@...>Subject: Re: codexiodine Date: Sunday, 15 November, 2009, 9:46 I found it.http://autism. about.com/ b/2008/04/ 23/do-the- amish-vaccinate- indeed-they- do-and-their- autism-rates- may-be-lower. htmAdrienne> > >> > > ,> > > There is some religious group in the US which doesn't have vaccines and don't have > > > any autism among their children. Name escapes me at present.> > > .> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Dr. Lorraine Day had a baseball sized lump (of fungus) between her breasts, and got rid of it simply by taking carrot juice! I would venture to say it probably took her several months, or even years to do it, however. The fastest way is to use escharotics - they take a total of 2-3 months to remove cancer/fungus. In case you don't know it, cancer and fungus are one and the same. from Israel > > > > > > > > , > > > > There is some religious group in the US which doesn't have vaccines and don't have > > > > any autism among their children. Name escapes me at present. > > > > . > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Please accept my apology, . You are absolutely correct and thanks for pointing it out to me. I looked back and it was Jag who posted that Monsanto owns Solgar. That’s what happens when one doesn’t leave part of the original post. Learned my lesson. J Have a great week! Be Well Dr.L -----Original Message----- Loretta, I never said Monsanto purchased Solgar; someone else did. from Israel > > , did you read my entire post? It says exactly what you said below. > However, in a previous post, you said that Monsanto owns Solgar and that is > not correct. That is how rumors get started. > > The best supplements do come from smaller companies. I totally agree! > Actually the supplements coming from Big Pharma will be less expensive because > of all the chemical excipients, binders and fillers that are used in the > products along with the fact that the vitamin portions are usually synthetic. > Chemicals are cheap; natural food sourced vitamins are more expensive. I > understand that money is tight for everyone (businesses included) but cheaper > does not mean better, especially in the supplement industry and especially > when it comes to one's health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Vitamin C in dosages as high as 1g/tab are allowed to sell in Germany too, as is Vit C Powder. And it is cheap as well. No one will get arrested even for owning prescription only medics over here. > > > > > > > > > I don’t think that Monsanto owns Solgar. From what I understand they “almost†did but it never happened. I believe the following is fairly accurate and gives a picture of what is happening with many vitamin companies. One of the reasons that some are selling off to Big Corp/Big Pharma is because they don’t want the hassle/worry with the FDA and FTC who try to make examples of the smaller companies by going in and shutting them down for “making health claims†about herbs/vitamins. So, why not take a good offer and not have to deal with all the stress and worry of Big Pharma and Big Government? (However, they seem to be allowing Kellogg’s to advertise that Chocolate Rice Krispies provide antioxidants….if you look at the first ingredient you will see that it says SUGAR!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is just another example of things not always being “as they seem.†Be Well - Dr.L > > > > > > > > > Solgar is not a little family run business. NBTY owns Solgar. Dance to the music of the global pharmas. > > > > > > (If you cannot be anonymous change your name! Or if you want to make it difficult to be sued change your name!) > > > > > > Holly at Raw Cuisine whose e-zine regularly carries varied and interesting items ran a piece on her website about Monsanto owning Solgar and was “warned off†by J Gormley, who wrote to her from Solgar as their Associate Director of Marketing. > > > He says it is “completely false†that Monsanto and Solgar are in any way connected. He says “To reiterate, please be aware that the ridiculous Monsanto rumor that has been floating around (here and there) since at least 1999 is categorically false, and, in fact, couldn’t be further from the truth.†No it very nearly happened in 1998! And Solgar was owned by a very big Pharma from 1998 to 2005 > > > There is a deliberate effort in his letter to give an untrue perspective on events †" well he is a marketing man so no surprise there. There was a moment as you will see below when both companies were the target of an even larger pharma corporation’s attempted takeover. Solgar was acquired but the Monsanto takeover collapsed after several months of negotiations broke down. > > > > > > From his letter you would think Solgar was a nice little family run business. Not so, Solgar is part of a larger $2 billion group. > > > > > > J Gormley is from his letter to Holly associated with Citizens for Health as well as being adviser to Solgar. Citizens for Health is suspect. Citizens for Health appears to be an organization set up by vested interests to provide an ineffectual outlet for anti-codex activity. The case for this is set out below and more info from > > > ( <http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3312735.htm> http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3312735.htm for a fuller expose. ) > > > > > > Seeing Through Spin of " Citizens for Health " and " The Natural Solutions Foundation " on the CODEX Vitamin Issue > > > CONTROLLED OPPOSITION GROUPS > > > " Citizens for Health " and " Natural Solutions Foundation " are controlled opposition groups on the Codex issue. We believe the true purpose of these groups is to assist the pharma dominated vitamin trade associations by recommending grass roots actions which appear plausible on the surface to the poorly informed, but which upon close inspection fail to hold up to careful scrutiny. > > > We believe these groups are attempting to intentionally divert grass roots attention from the strategy of IAHF and allied organizations. In a nutshell, their mission is to: > > > A) Con people into believing that we can change Codex AT Codex (despite the fact that we have zero political influence over the unelected bureaucrats from the FDA and its international equivalents that serve as delegates at these highly rigged meetings.) and > > > Con people into believing that countries which adopt " Model Legislation " patterned after the US Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act would be " protected " in the event of a WTO Trade Dispute Ruling against them. ( , Esq., who originated this plan has failed to explain any viable legal mechanism to support his contention that this could work. * See IAHF's detailed analysis of CFH and NSF's " LEGAL SUMMARY " below. > > > C) Con people into believing that they're " fighting back " by signing a petition to US Codex Manager Ed Scarbrough (an unelected bureaucrat at the USDA who has never attempted to rein in FDA officials who've served as US Delegates at CODEX (even when their actions have gone directly against US law.) > > > Even when Scarbrough and the US Codex Delegates have obviously IGNORED this petition at recent Codex meetings, Citizens for Health and the Natural Solutions Foundation would still have us believe that signing it and sending it in to Scarbrough are a viable means of " fighting back. " > > > D) Con people into believing that there is " no connection " between sovereignty destroying trade agreements such as NAFTA, CAFTA, FTAA and Codex in an obvious effort to keep people from exercising the political leverage that we DO have with CONGRESS (but which we DON'T have with unelected Codex bureaucrats from the world's FDA's.) Citizens for Health and now also the " Natural Solutions Foundation " have a long history of doing spin against true grass roots anti Codex campaigns. > > > These groups are making ZERO EFFORT to alert the public to the dire need to oppose clear efforts to destroy America and to force us into a planned North American Union. > > > It’s clear that their TRUE MOTIVE is to support the agenda of the large pharmaceutical companies that are controlling the vitamin trade associations from the top-down which WANT CODEX, which WANT one size fits all regulations for the planet. In this section we explore this and also explore the gross conflicts of interest inherent in these organizations which have very close ties with such pharma dominated vitamin trade associations as CRN, and NNFA……. > > > So how did the rumored link between Solgar and Monsanto come about? > > > In June 1998 it was announced that American Home Products (now Wyeth Corporation) would acquire Monsanto for $33.4 billion to become top seller of prescription drugs in the US and separately that it would acquire Solgar > > > <http://www.democracynow.org/1998/6/5/monsanto_and_american_home_products_merger\ > http://www.democracynow.org/1998/6/5/monsanto_and_american_home_products_merger > > > But the deal with Monsanto deal broke down in October 1998 > > > <http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A06E0DB143AF937A25753C1A96E9582\ 60> http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A06E0DB143AF937A25753C1A96E95826\ 0 > > > What then happened was that old Monsanto was broken up into three parts new Monsanto the agri-business, Pharmacia the pharma business and another company to hold all the legal problems old Monsanto had accumulated and some of which are still playing out. > > > Pharmacia was then taken over by Pfizer to become the largest pharma research company in the world. > > > But what of American Home Products? Well firstly they acquired Solgar in June 1998. You can see how close the possibility of Monsanto and Solgar being in bed together was to happening and also that it did not quite happen. At that time the possibility gave rise to a consumer outcry and campaigns. > > > Who are American Home Products? They are now called Wyeth Corporation and are a Fortune 500 company with a turnover of $20.4 billion and employing over 50,000. They sold off Solgar for $115 million to NBTY (formerly Nature’s Bounty) in 2005. > > > <http://www.naturalfoodsmerchandiser.com/ArticlePage/tabid/66/itemid/1658/Defaul\ t.aspx> http://www.naturalfoodsmerchandiser.com/ArticlePage/tabid/66/itemid/1658/Default\ ..aspx > > > It was Solgar being taken over that gave rise to the creation of Viridian in 1999 where the owner is Cheryl Thallon. Cheryl has worked in the natural products industry since she was 21, working in health food stores. Trained as a journalist, she became editor of Natural Food Trader magazine in 1988, before joining Solgar Vitamins as Marketing Director in 1991 where she stayed for 8 years, until shortly after the company was sold to Wyeth. > > > NBTY had a turnover in 2007 of just over $2.0 billion, has over 4 million square feet of operational buildings and employs 10,800 people as well as Solgar products it has all these > > > “NBTY is a leading vertically integrated manufacturer and distributor of a broad line of high-quality, value-priced nutritional supplements in the United States and throughout the world. The Company markets approximately 2,000 products under several brands, including Nature's Bounty®, Vitamin World®, Puritan's Pride®, Holland & Barrett® UK, Rexall®, Sundown®, MET-Rx®, WORLDWIDE Sport Nutrition®, American Health®, GNC (UK)®, DeTuinen® Netherlands and Le Naturiste Canada. “ > > > As far as who runs Solgar it is NBTY and the guys that run it are Rudolph who has shares worth about $120 million and Kamil Harvey who holds about $36m. Rand Skolnick CEO of Solgar is not even on the board of the NBTY holding company. > > > NBTY are still picking up bargains in the health supplement world and have about 1150 stores in the US, Canada and Europe. They are now acquiring US bankrupt supplement company Leiner > > > <http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/stories/2008/05/12/daily16.html?jst=s_cn_h\ l> http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/stories/2008/06/09/daily38.html?jst=s_cn_hl (see related news on this page link) > > > In the US NBTY has a shop chain Vitamin World and a mail order operation Puritan’s Pride, it has Le Naturiste stores in Canada, De Tuinen in Holland and Nature’s Way in Ireland. So as well as distributing they also sell through their own shops. Solgar in the UK is run through Boots Herbal Stores (not Boots the Chemist or Boots Company Plc) > > > So getting to the UK and Holland and Barrett. How did they get into NBTY. They bought Holland and Barrett from German group GEHE Ag. Yes you got it in one - another huge pharma sold Holland and Barrett in August 1997. Gehe Ag is the 2nd largest wholesaler of pharmaceuticals in Germany. Yes like the others it has changed its name and is now called Celesio. It is a private family owned company owned by the Hanille family. It is one of the three largest drug wholesalers in Europe with 2300 drug stores (including Lloyds Pharmacy in the UK). It has a turnover of 22.4 billion euros and employs 37,000 staff. > > > So many little brands like Solgar are not independent and so are not what they appear. What seems to be happening is a lot of positioning. Agri-businesses are being separated from pharmas, pharmas are divesting their supplement businesses. But even now supplement businesses are dominated about 70% by pharmas as Verkerk, Executive Director for the Alliance for Natural Health and Advisor to the National Health Federation team on Codex Alimentarius explained in his Alternative View presentation in April 2008 Double Jeopardy against Natural Health which you can purchase for £5 from http://www.ianrcrane.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd & productId=43 He explains why the vitamin and supplement sector has not squawked more about Codex Alimentarius ridiculous plans as it rather suits them to medicalize supplements and shows how it will creep in over the next few years. > > > NBTY appears to be the chosen vehicle to acquire health supplement businesses. It could later become the vehicle for one or more pharmas to medicalize the health supplements as Codex bites in. > > > Watch and expect increasing numbers of foods to be banned and classified as toxic in the next few years. > > > Watch and expect that there will be increasing numbers of exposes of GE/GM contamination of health care products like this expose on Vitamin C and Solgar and others > > > <http://www.organicconsumers.org/ge/vitaminc.cfm> http://www.organicconsumers.org/ge/vitaminc.cfm > > > The global pharmas are all waltzing around the Codex knowing that they only have to wait and important foods and all supplements will be banned or classified as drugs - as with this little circular logic > > > Drug companies ripped off the lovastatin molecules from red yeast rice, then patented them. Once they achieved FDA approval for their " <http://www.naturalnews.com/statin_drugs.html> statin drugs > > > , " it was easy to file a petition requesting the outlawing of red yeast rice, claiming the supplement was " adulterated " with drugs! Which drugs? Statin drugs, of course -- the very same drugs that were isolated from red yeast rice in the first place!_,_._,___ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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