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Do you think he would at least be open to the idea of just running

the test? My first appointment with him is on Dec. 5th and I would

really like to get a full picture. Chelation is *not* my first

choice of action as I agree that healing the immune system would

obviously help the body excrete better but I would like to track it

and see if it's actually happening. I don't want to be years down

the road and find out I was missing a critical piece of the puzzle.

If not, I could certainly do it through our ped or a lab but (in a

perfect world) I would like to have it all done with the support of

the doctor.

Cheryl

On Nov 13, 2006, at 8:58 AM, Caroline Glover wrote:

> Cheryl,

>

> He hasn't tested either of my kids... the oldest has been with him

> for about

> 5 years.

>

> Caroline

>

> > From: Cheryl Lowrance <c.lowrance@...>

> > Reply-< >

> > Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 07:28:03 -0800

> > < >

> > Subject: Heavy metals

> >

> > Does anyone know if Dr. G tests for heavy metal toxicity? I know he

> > doesn't chelate but I'm wondering if he tracks whether they are

> > dumping naturally after starting his protocol?

> >

> > Cheryl

>

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Cheryl...

I don't know... you could always ask. He has very strong opinions about

things and will not hesitate to share them with you... that's for sure! Be

prepared for " Why Not Chelation 101 " if you ask ;). It is my understanding

that he will not treat children who are being chelated, he is so against it.

By the way, he has always been generous as to allow us to audiotape our

appointments and it has been extremely helpful. I would highly recommend

taking a little tape recorder to the initial appointment. I remember

leaving the office the first time with my head spinning... there was so much

information presented that I couldn't really take it all in. Having the

tape is a great review.

Best of luck!

Caroline

> From: Cheryl Lowrance <c.lowrance@...>

> Reply-< >

> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:28:36 -0800

> < >

> Subject: Re: Heavy metals

>

> Do you think he would at least be open to the idea of just running

> the test? My first appointment with him is on Dec. 5th and I would

> really like to get a full picture. Chelation is *not* my first

> choice of action as I agree that healing the immune system would

> obviously help the body excrete better but I would like to track it

> and see if it's actually happening. I don't want to be years down

> the road and find out I was missing a critical piece of the puzzle.

> If not, I could certainly do it through our ped or a lab but (in a

> perfect world) I would like to have it all done with the support of

> the doctor.

>

> Cheryl

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On Nov 13, 2006, at 12:01 PM, wrote:

> But there are lots of

> really good reasons for him to feel this way and I'll

> be glad to go over them with you off list if you need

> someone to talk to you about it. Also, you could view

> a slide show from a DVD conference (only the slides

> ... you'd miss out on a great deal of other info

> unless you order the DVD) that does have a section

> that will explain his feelings on the metals topic.

>

I have an idea of his views from his website. But from his writings,

I don't get the feeling that he doesn't believe there is a

possibility of toxicity. It sounds more like he feels that when the

immune system is functioning properly, the body will excrete metals

as it is supposed to. I know how he feels about chelation and

although I don't disagree with him, I don't think I'm as vehemently

against it as he is.

>

> *** Have you read his papers on the neuroimmunedr or

> .net sites? There is sooooo much more to be

> learning about than the metal issue. Mainly you may

> have learned about metals from other sites ...

> goes so far beyond that that it becomes a non-issue.

Would you mind explaining it to me? I'm not really sure how it is a

non-issue with . I have read the articles but he doesn't really

seem to say much about it other than not to do it.

>

> **** The more you learn about , the less you may

> care about metals.

Again, I would *love* an explanation on this. I really don't want to

ask Dr. G if it's going to cause a maelstrom of hail and thunder from

the heavens if you can explain it. :)

> If this will be an obsessive issue

> for you (trust me I understand obsessiveness), again

> you may wish to ask your local ped to order it to

> " humor " you (that's usually what they feel like

> they're doing if they order those tests) and track it

> that way. But as you learn about what Dr Goldberg is

> actually tracking (and in fact how the immune issues

> actually affect metals, metabolism, detox, etc), you

> may get more tied up in watching the labs he watches

> as opposed to the metal side of things anyway.

See, and I don't really understand what labs are important to him and

why. I know he does things much differently than a DAN! and that's

kind of why I chose to see him but I'm having a hard time wrapping my

head around what really is important with his protocol and why other

things aren't important. DAN! is fairly simple to understand as it's

all over the place on the net but there is really very little about

other than his websites.

> Have

> you already had the workup?

>

No, I'm assuming he will order those when I get there. Should I have

my ped run it before going?

>

> **** Flat out honestly won't be getting his support on

> that issue. He would rather gnaw off his own foot

> than order a metals test other than a lead test if it

> hasn't already been done. :) Seriously. I'm not

> exagerating. But anything I can do to help you

> understand his position - very firm passionate

> position - on the topic, I'll be glad to help you with

> off list. You don't want the tone of your first visit

> with him set on the metals topic, so if (when) you

> approach him with it, you may wish to do so at the end

> of your visit rather than the beginning.

Please do e-mail me offlist. I absolutely don't want to start off on

the wrong foot with him. I'm not interested in getting into massive

debates with him that only cause him to lack respect for me. I've

heard so many things about him, good and bad, that I'm a bit nervous

I'll piss him off (I'm good at that) but I'm committed to giving his

protocol a try as I really believe that my son fits. I also don't

want to walk out his office pissed off at *him* (I'm good at that,

too). So any answers you could give me that could avoid me causing

conflict would be great!

Thanks so much,

Cheryl

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>

That's a *great* idea! Thanks for the tip. My dh will be working so

he won't be able to make the appointment. This will really help me

be able to keep him up, too.

Cheryl

> By the way, he has always been generous as to allow us to audiotape

> our

> appointments and it has been extremely helpful. I would highly

> recommend

> taking a little tape recorder to the initial appointment. I remember

> leaving the office the first time with my head spinning... there

> was so much

> information presented that I couldn't really take it all in. Having

> the

> tape is a great review.

>

> Best of luck!

>

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