Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 On 2010-02-23 11:54 AM, wrote: > The ear needs to first be cleaned out, as best as possible. With a > young child and an infection, cleaning may be more of a problem than > treating, but the treatment is more effective if an attempt is made to > clean first. Any chance you could ask him what he means by 'clean them out'? Does he mean maybe using something like hydrogen peroxide? -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 --- In , Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@...> wrote: > > > Any chance you could ask him what he means by 'clean them out'? Does he > mean maybe using something like hydrogen peroxide? > I will ask, but I do think that's what he meant, or perhaps with CS as it is the CS list we are having this discussion on. samala, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Now I am nervous having 2.5 lbs of sodium chlorite powder here in the house. Please someone tell me how to make a 5% solution. Thanks. --- In , " gaiacita " <gaiacita@...> wrote: > > > > --- In , Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@> wrote: > > > > > > > Any chance you could ask him what he means by 'clean them out'? Does he > > mean maybe using something like hydrogen peroxide? > > > > I will ask, but I do think that's what he meant, or perhaps with CS as it is the CS list we are having this discussion on. > > samala, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Thanks . That is comforting to know. Do you know why he said 28% is dangerous? Is it because if accidentally put on eyes, or other parts of the body, or because it is still explosive at 28%? Smart KGR did give the 5% formula. Thanks. > > Not sure how to make the 5% solution. I'm going to ask how to do that and > will let you know if someone here doesn't answer. > > But no need to worry about having the s. Chlorite in your house. It's > perfectly safe so long as you have it in a container where it is kept > totally dry and also in the dark. > > Samala, > > > -------Original Message------- > Now I am nervous having 2.5 lbs of sodium chlorite powder here in the house. Please someone tell me how to make a 5% solution. Thanks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Keep the sodium chlorite in the freezer in air tight container for safety and shelf life. http://miraclemineralsolutions.com/MMS-faq.pdf http://mms-articles.com/chloritepowder.htm > > Not sure how to make the 5% solution. I'm going to ask how to do that and > will let you know if someone here doesn't answer. > > But no need to worry about having the s. Chlorite in your house. It's > perfectly safe so long as you have it in a container where it is kept > totally dry and also in the dark. > > Samala, > > > -------Original Message------- > Now I am nervous having 2.5 lbs of sodium chlorite powder here in the house. Please someone tell me how to make a 5% solution. Thanks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 From my own personnel experience once cleaned out with the 28% the same amount now has no effect with nausea or diarrhea. I still beleive the diarrhea and nausea is from die off if taken with the new protocol. Who is this Tom you keep writing of? What is his credentials? > > Hi . Tom thinks the 28% is too strong for ANY use for people. He says > you get the same effect, internally, at the 5% while the 28% is what makes > people throw up and have diarrhea. He says it's actually a poison when used > at that strength and it's not die-off from pathogens that is making everyone > sick but the strength of the MMS. > > Plus with the 5% you can use it safely for cleaning in the kitchen, etc. > > I will ask him how to dilute the 28% down to 5% if you want. Then you could > dilute your bottle of regular strength MMS and not only have more of it (it > will last 2 to 4 years if you keep it in the dark) but it will be safe to > use for anything. > > Samala, > > > -------Original Message------- > > Do you know why he said 28% is dangerous? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 --- In , Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@...> wrote: > > Or did he recommend activating the 5% solution? That would definitely be > different from taking the 5% by itself or with water only... > Yes, he usually recommended activating the 5%. samala, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Hi , It was nice chain of your postings of Tom, with a lots of useful info and details of his perceptions and understanding.He appears to have been in the field of Sodium Chlorite/Chlorine dioxide for a couple of decades,as well as he appears to have good exposure of MMS personally and is closely following developments in MMS, with connections and interactions with Jim. It would be nice if Tom become a member in our group and directly share his thoughts,insights,experiences.It is good that he has taken MSM MMS combo for investigation. Apart from the factors like anti-oxidant,possible MSM neutralizing with MMS, there should be some other factors involved in getting wide variations of results from various persons who take mmS1.May be Blood group as suggested by some one. My blood group is 'A', I generally dont get any painful reactions with MMS1 except some discomfort in stomach and diarrhea. But my wife whose blood group is 'B' gets vomiting,diarrhea and severe stomach pain almost equivalent to delivery pain, just by taking upto 3 drops mms1, 2 time a day.So she had to discontinue taking MMS1 until some viable solution is found. In this scenario,accidentally, I came across MMS-LITE, brought to the attention of our group and I am planning to give a try with myself and my wife. May be, Tom can add to his research program, the relationship of blood group with Hex symptoms.It may give some insights of the kind of supportive food supplements/treatments to different blood group so that every one can comfortably face hex reactions. The link http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8876564/Blood-Group-Dietxls may be useful for choosing the right food for each blood group. Thanks and regards KGR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 > The link http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8876564/Blood-Group-Dietxls may be useful for choosing the right food for each blood group. > Thanks and regards > KGR > Hey KGR. I have blood type O neg. I have experienced nausea and diarrhea at various levels, starting at 8 drops. I never went up to the full 15 drops because there really isn't anything wrong with me that I'm trying to fix. I was simply interested in a wonderful, cheap and effective product. I did, however, start out at 15 drops. I did not have a timer and so was guessing at the 3 minute stage for activation. the first 3 days I did this, took the 15 drops with no reaction what-so-ever. the 4th day I decided I'd better actually TIME the 3 minutes. I did so, and from that figured I'd probably only been allowing about a minute and a half for activation the first 3 days. I waited the full 3 minutes, took my glass of 15 drops MMS and 75 drops of white vinegar in 1 cup of water. Within 30 minutes I had projectile vomiting, that stopped as soon as my stomach was empty--and i was not nauseated after that. Within another half hour I had liquid diarrhea which lasted the rest of that day and tapered off the next morning. after that I could not stand the smell of AMMS so quit taking it for about 3 weeks. Started again at 6 drops, was fine until I hit 8 drops and then began to feel nauseated--though not to the point of throwing up, nor did I get diarrhea. I dropped back to 6 drops, worked my way back up to 8 drops, when it didn't bother me anymore. But then I didn't continue with any higher drops because as I said--I wasn't ill and I do NOT like feeling nauseous. I will invite Tom to this group, though he seems to be very busy. He usually takes 24 hours to answer, as he probably only gets to check his email at home, after work. samala, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 , Thanks. Am now looking for plastic storage bins to keep my 2.5 lbs of sodium chlorite so it will be far from sparks. I keep it in our coat closet by the front door. Nowhere else to put it. Our garage has the water heater and operates by gas so that is not a safe place to put. > > Hi . Tom thinks the 28% is too strong for ANY use for people. He says > you get the same effect, internally, at the 5% while the 28% is what makes > people throw up and have diarrhea. He says it's actually a poison when used > at that strength and it's not die-off from pathogens that is making everyone > sick but the strength of the MMS. > > Plus with the 5% you can use it safely for cleaning in the kitchen, etc. > > I will ask him how to dilute the 28% down to 5% if you want. Then you could > dilute your bottle of regular strength MMS and not only have more of it (it > will last 2 to 4 years if you keep it in the dark) but it will be safe to > use for anything. > > Samala, > > > -------Original Message------- > > Do you know why he said 28% is dangerous? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 , Tom's instructions for 5% was to take 1/2 tsp of bitters first and wait for up to 1/2 hour with no food or drink to prepare the stomach for the coming activated sodium chlorite solution. ============ > > I'm not sure I agree that 5% is as good though. 5% is what the 'aerobic > oxygen products were, and they did absolutely nothing for me and a lot > of people I know, although they did work for some people whose opinion I > respect. We finally decided the difference was that people who had > strong HCl production in their stomach seemed to be the ones who it > wrked for, which made sense since that would mean it was 'activating' > the 5% solution much better than those whose HCl production was low... > > Or did he recommend activating the 5% solution? That would definitely be > different from taking the 5% by itself or with water only... > > -- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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