Mathematically challenged...!

[Guest guest]

Hi Tom,

Really appreciate your generously shared knowledge & valued input with this Group.

I use a water flask that neatly fits into my bumbag when I go out & about. It holds 475 mls of water.

What number of unactivated drops of MMS would I need to add to the bottle to make a 5% solution?

From previous posts it would seem that there is no need to activate it with citric acid, lemon juice etc. when used this way. (Is this correct?)

Whilst the strength of the MMS is not noted on the bottle I'm assuming that it's either 28% or 22.4% sodium chlorite.

I'm using it as a 'sippy' maintenance regimen through the day & refilled for use during the night.

Thank you in advance,

Rob

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[Guest guest]

Hello Rob,

First of all, I think we need to clear up what appears to me as some

confusion...

You don't drink the 5% solution. It is way to strong to drink. It is just much

safer to handle than the 22.4% solution. You use the 5% solution in a way

similar to how you use the 22.4% solution.

Next we should discuss measurements. Drops are great for adding very small

amounts of a chemical. However, it is very difficult to form uniform drops. It

takes a lot of practice. The number of drops to measure 1 ml varies, and is

dependent upon the specific gravity of the chemical you are using and the size

of the dropper you are using.

When you need 1 or 2 drops, drops are a great way to go. When you need more

than about 2 drops you will have better results by using milliliter

measurements. When you make measurements using a syringe or measuring spoon,

you end up with more consistent results. These chemicals are so strong that a

small variation can make a significant difference in the strength of the

solution.

MMS is 28% sodium chlorite by weight, but the powder used to make this solution

is only 80% pure. This means that we actually end up with a 22.4% sodium

chlorite solution (80% of 28% = 22.4%).

This is an industrial strength chemical that is dangerous to handle, so I

recommend people dilute it down to a much safer to handle 5% solution. You can

do everything with the 5% solution that you can with the 22.4% solution, and it

is much safer to handle.

OK, now we can get to your question...

I would suggest that you first mix up a 5% sodium chlorite solution and store it

in another bottle. If you have such a bottle (like an old MMS bottle or an old

H2O2 bottle) let me know what size it is and I will give you the numbers needed

to mix up the 5% solution.

Now, back to your water bottle.

To make a sipping solution you would add 1.3 (this is slightly more than 1/4

teaspoon, but not quite a heaping 1/4 teaspoon) ml of 5% sodium chlorite and

then fill the water bottle up.

Now, if you really want to know how to mix up 475 ml of 5% sodium chlorite, let

me know, but this is not to be used straight.

Tom

>

> Hi Tom,

>

> Really appreciate your generously shared knowledge & valued input with this

Group.

>

> I use a water flask that neatly fits into my bumbag when I go out & about. It

holds 475 mls of water.

>

> What number of unactivated drops of MMS would I need to add to the bottle to

make a 5% solution?

> From previous posts it would seem that there is no need to activate it with

citric acid, lemon juice etc. when used this way. (Is this correct?)

>

> Whilst the strength of the MMS is not noted on the bottle I'm assuming that

it's either 28% or 22.4% sodium chlorite.

>

> I'm using it as a 'sippy' maintenance regimen through the day & refilled for

use during the night.

>

> Thank you in advance,

> Rob

[Guest guest]

Hi Tom,

I thought I was right up there with you on

these measurements until you start referring to “heaping” teaspoon

measurements for what I thought was a liquid measurement… or is

this only an analogy?

Dan

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of silverfox_science

Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010

11:14 PM

Subject:

[ ] Re: Mathematically challenged...!

Hello Rob,

First of all, I think we need to clear up what appears to me as some

confusion...

You don't drink the 5% solution. It is way to strong to drink. It is just much

safer to handle than the 22.4% solution. You use the 5% solution in a way

similar to how you use the 22.4% solution.

Next we should discuss measurements. Drops are great for adding very small

amounts of a chemical. However, it is very difficult to form uniform drops. It

takes a lot of practice. The number of drops to measure 1 ml varies, and is

dependent upon the specific gravity of the chemical you are using and the size

of the dropper you are using.

When you need 1 or 2 drops, drops are a great way to go. When you need more

than about 2 drops you will have better results by using milliliter

measurements. When you make measurements using a syringe or measuring spoon,

you end up with more consistent results. These chemicals are so strong that a

small variation can make a significant difference in the strength of the

solution.

MMS is 28% sodium chlorite by weight, but the powder used to make this solution

is only 80% pure. This means that we actually end up with a 22.4% sodium

chlorite solution (80% of 28% = 22.4%).

This is an industrial strength chemical that is dangerous to handle, so I

recommend people dilute it down to a much safer to handle 5% solution. You can

do everything with the 5% solution that you can with the 22.4% solution, and it

is much safer to handle.

OK, now we can get to your question...

I would suggest that you first mix up a 5% sodium chlorite solution and store

it in another bottle. If you have such a bottle (like an old MMS bottle or an

old H2O2 bottle) let me know what size it is and I will give you the numbers

needed to mix up the 5% solution.

Now, back to your water bottle.

To make a sipping solution you would add 1.3 (this is slightly more than 1/4

teaspoon, but not quite a heaping 1/4 teaspoon) ml of 5% sodium chlorite and

then fill the water bottle up.

Now, if you really want to know how to mix up 475 ml of 5% sodium chlorite, let

me know, but this is not to be used straight.

Tom

>

> Hi Tom,

>

> Really appreciate your generously shared knowledge & valued input with

this Group.

>

> I use a water flask that neatly fits into my bumbag when I go out &

about. It holds 475 mls of water.

>

> What number of unactivated drops of MMS would I need to add to the bottle

to make a 5% solution?

> From previous posts it would seem that there is no need to activate it

with citric acid, lemon juice etc. when used this way. (Is this correct?)

>

> Whilst the strength of the MMS is not noted on the bottle I'm assuming

that it's either 28% or 22.4% sodium chlorite.

>

> I'm using it as a 'sippy' maintenance regimen through the day &

refilled for use during the night.

>

> Thank you in advance,

> Rob

[Guest guest]

Hello Dan,

Sorry for the confusion.

1/4 teaspoon holds 1.25 ml of liquid. We wanted 1.3 ml, so this is a little

more than 1/4 teaspoon.

You have to " heap " it up a little if you are using measuring spoons. If you

have a syringe simply use 1.3 ml.

Tom

> >

> > Hi Tom,

> >

> > Really appreciate your generously shared knowledge & valued input with

> this Group.

> >

> > I use a water flask that neatly fits into my bumbag when I go out &

> about. It holds 475 mls of water.

> >

> > What number of unactivated drops of MMS would I need to add to the

> bottle to make a 5% solution?

> > From previous posts it would seem that there is no need to activate it

> with citric acid, lemon juice etc. when used this way. (Is this

> correct?)

> >

> > Whilst the strength of the MMS is not noted on the bottle I'm assuming

> that it's either 28% or 22.4% sodium chlorite.

> >

> > I'm using it as a 'sippy' maintenance regimen through the day &

> refilled for use during the night.

> >

> > Thank you in advance,

> > Rob

>