Re: Buffered MMS answer from Tom

[Guest guest]

Hello ,

Nice that some tests have been conducted by Tom to know the truth.After going

thro your posting,I have a few questions.

1. " It looks like MSM neutralizes about 92 - 100% of the free chlorine dioxide in

the MMS-Lite mixture when you add chlorine dioxide to the solution. "

Roy also confirms that ingesting activated MMS-LITE is very comfortable, there

is no smell of Chlorine dioxide. My question is whether chlorine dioxide has

reacted with MSM and destroyed it(Oxidized it) or it is simply physically

absorbed and bound by MSM, (which might defy laboratory test for free Chlorine

Dioxide), resulting in both existing intact.

2.MSM is known for its carrier for nutrients, is it not that it is acting as

carrier for Chlorine dioxide of Chlorous acid too.

3. " I put 4 ml of 5% sodium chlorite in a glass and activated it with 4 ml of 6%

hydrochloric acid. I then added this to the 1 liter of water that had 1000 mg

MSM dissolved in it. When I measured the free chlorine dioxide it was 10 PPM.

After waiting 4 hours the concentration of chlorine dioxide remained at about 10

PPM, so that would indicate that all of the anti-oxidant capability of the MSM

could have been used up. "

Does it not mean that the entire Chlorine Dioxide has been absorbed in 1000mg

MSM except 10PPM which is remaining intact even after 4 hours.

4. Is there any way to test MSM so that we can check that it has got oxidized or

not, by Chlorine dioxide.

Roy seems to have consumed as high as 80-120 drops of MMS1 as LITE in a day

without any painful reactions, which was impossible with MMS1.

He seems to have taken MSM separately for considerable time but got only a

limited positive results.Only after this MMS-MSM combo, his ailments started

disappearing.Does it not suggest that this combination MMS-MSM somehow is doing

the trick inside his biological system?

Thank you for your efforts to get truth.

It is very interesting initial results Tom has got, but it has raised these

questions in my mind.I shall be happy if some clarification is got for the above

questions.It will be good to get all clarifications, before deciding to get it

tried.

Thanks and regards

KGR

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> Hello ,

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> I finally got around to picking up some MSM and running some tests.

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> It looks like MSM neutralizes about 92 - 100% of the free chlorine dioxide

> in the MMS-Lite mixture when you add chlorine dioxide to the solution. It

> also seems to inhibit the release of chlorine dioxide when you add chlorous

> acid to the solution.

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> My tests only ran for 4 hours, and there are probably more combinations that

> could be checked out, but the initial results indicate that MSM and chlorine

> dioxide don't mix well. I really don't have a good way to test how much MSM

> is left after the chlorine dioxide is used up. Roy may be getting some

> results from the MSM, from drinking more fluids, or he may simply believe

> that this solution will help him and it does.

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> There is also the possibility that unactivated sodium chlorite doesn't bind

> completely with MSM, and it may break off and be able to have some effect

> away from the MSM.

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> In 1 liter of water, I added 1000 mg of MSM and I started with 0.88 ml (15

> drops) of MMS activated with 0.88 ml of 10% citric acid. I let the

> activation continue for 10 minutes before adding this mixture to the MSM

> solution. In 1 liter of water this produces about 120 PPM available

> chlorine dioxide with about 24 PPM of that as free chlorine dioxide. When

> this was added to the MSM solution, there was no indication of any free

> chlorine dioxide initially, or after 4 hours of sitting on the counter.

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> I then mixed up a chlorine dioxide solution of 120 PPM. I put 4 ml of 5%

> sodium chlorite in a glass and activated it with 4 ml of 6% hydrochloric

> acid. I then added this to the 1 liter of water that had 1000 mg MSM

> dissolved in it. When I measured the free chlorine dioxide it was 10 PPM.

> After waiting 4 hours the concentration of chlorine dioxide remained at

> about 10 PPM, so that would indicate that all of the anti-oxidant capability

> of the MSM could have been used up.

>

> I repeated each of these tests 4 times and the results were consistent each

> time.

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> From this limited testing it would appear that MMS Lite is light on MMS...

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> Tom

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[Guest guest]

On 2010-02-27 1:07 PM, KGR wrote:

> 2.MSM is known for its carrier for nutrients, is it not that it is

> acting as carrier for Chlorine dioxide of Chlorous acid too.

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> Roy seems to have consumed as high as 80-120 drops of MMS1 as LITE

> in a day without any painful reactions, which was impossible with

> MMS1. He seems to have taken MSM separately for considerable time

> but got only a limited positive results.Only after this MMS-MSM

> combo, his ailments started disappearing.Does it not suggest that

> this combination MMS-MSM somehow is doing the trick inside his

> biological system?

Why are you jumping through so many hoops?

Occams razor suggests that it is more likely that the anti-oxidant

effect of MSM is neutralizing the MMS, and Roys 'benefits' were just

from whatever MSM was leftover and/or from the 'placebo' effect.

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[Guest guest]

I'll send this on to Tom. It would seem to me that if the MSM is negating the chlorine dioxide, then naturally Roy would be able to take all he wanted of AMMS, because it would all be neutralized.

And Tom has already said he doesn't know why Roy is getting benefits, unless it is because there is some free MSM involved (and MSM, to a sulfur deficient body, could do wonders) and that's doing it, or if it's placebo. <shrug> there's probably no way to say for sure.

But, I'll send this on and see what happens. :-)

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

Hello ,

Nice that some tests have been conducted by Tom to know the truth.After going thro your posting,I have a few questions.

[Guest guest]

Thank you .

I am not at all denying any of your comments that MSM is neutralizing MMS as

well as 'placebo' effect.I am fully aware of these very relevant factors.I am

only for verifying various possibilities through observation and

experimentation, if possible, that's all.In some rare occasions, when things do

not go in expected terms,apparently contradicting well-known scientific and

technological principles,new phenomenon is likely to be found.I wish to verify

such factors before accepting or rejecting the new idea.

I always used to tell my chemist, do not just believe and expect that crow is

always black in colour, you may come across white crow also rarely(we do have

white crows in zoo!!), Confirm all the parameters through observation and

experimentation;Do not just believe whatever the ideas you get,to be right,

however much it confirms well-known scientific principles;Test it and verify

before adapting.

Let us wait and see.

Thanks and regards

KGR

> > 2.MSM is known for its carrier for nutrients, is it not that it is

> > acting as carrier for Chlorine dioxide of Chlorous acid too.

>

> <snip>

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> > Roy seems to have consumed as high as 80-120 drops of MMS1 as LITE

> > in a day without any painful reactions, which was impossible with

> > MMS1. He seems to have taken MSM separately for considerable time

> > but got only a limited positive results.Only after this MMS-MSM

> > combo, his ailments started disappearing.Does it not suggest that

> > this combination MMS-MSM somehow is doing the trick inside his

> > biological system?

>

> Why are you jumping through so many hoops?

>

> Occams razor suggests that it is more likely that the anti-oxidant

> effect of MSM is neutralizing the MMS, and Roys 'benefits' were just

> from whatever MSM was leftover and/or from the 'placebo' effect.

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