Re: Veterinarian consult

[Guest guest]

Hello Anne,

I haven't been able to find a veterinarian, or other medical professional, that

will openly discuss using sodium chlorite solutions. There is something about

the " due standard " of care and loosing their license.

The clinics are very impressed with the results, and some even order cases of

various products that utilize sodium chlorite in them. It seems that all of

this goes on in the " back room " and is not transparent to the pet owner.

The problem is that chlorine dioxide is classified as a pesticide.

One veterinarian did a great study on pet ear problems. A solution of acidified

sodium chlorite was found to be very successful in treating ear problems. When

he published the study, he became involved in several malpractice and wrongful

use suits. When contacted, his first question was what law firm we represented.

I pushed further and contacted the manufacturer of the product that was used.

They were surprised that I was able to find the study. It was supposed to have

been removed from circulation. They had no comment and told me the product was

removed from production, and the veterinarian had no authority to use their

product in the fashion that he did.

The cases I have worked with have utilized the veterinarian to monitor for

adverse effects. I tell the veterinarian what we are doing and he/she monitors

the general health of the pet and logs in the improvement, without detail of

what is actually being used.

It may be that our area is more conservative, I just don't know. You may want

to contact http://www.nzymes.com/pc/ They may be able to help.

Tom

--- In , " surveydog04 " <awhite9@...>

wrote:

>

> I'm getting ready to try using MMS for a couple of my dogs that have health

issues. I thought I had a plan but further reading in the archives brings up a

bunch of questions that I think I need answered before I start.

>

> Wondering if anyone knows of a veterinarian who has worked with MMS that would

do a phone consult. Tom ~ I saw previously that you have been working with a

vet ~ wondering if he/she or even you would do this?

>

> Thanks,

> Anne

>

[Guest guest]

That figures. I guess it doesnt surprise me. My excellent " back room " vet has

since moved away so I am having to " go it alone " .

While Ive got you here ;-) I was wondering if I make up the solution of ~ In

1 gallon of water, add 1/8 teaspoon of the 22.4% sodium chlorite (MMS). Does it

matter that I am using well water for this? Also once mixed up how long before I

should use it up or throw it out and start fresh? Also in your experience is

this the only water given to the dog or would there also be just regular water

available as well.

I dont think that either of my dogs is ready to croak yet, so Im wondering if

trying the mix that is half this strength is the way to go or have you seen that

the stronger for 1 week first sees better results?

Both of these dogs have sensitive digestive systems so I can give them some

supplements but not a ton or else I see loose stools. I was originally

investigating MMS as an option for one of my dogs who xrays show to have a

rather large mass in one side of her lungs. She is an older dog but still

rather active and enjoying life, so I'd like to try and help her. I originally

took her in to try and figure out why she was coughing, figured it was heart

related not a lung tumor. And then in the mean time I just found out that Dash

tested positive for lyme. So I figure the MMS may be able to assist with that

as well.

In the cases of animals taking MMS what sorts of things have you seen it help

with?

Sorry if Im asking too many questions!

Anne

>

[Guest guest]

This is not going to work. The shelf life of mixed MMS is about 1/2

hr. The problem with animals & MMS is getting it into them. You

basically have to mix it and shoot it into their mouth like they do

horses... the only way I know.

surveydog04 wrote:

That figures. I guess it doesnt surprise me. My excellent "back room"

vet has since moved away so I am having to "go it alone".

While Ive got you here ;-) I was wondering if I make up the solution of

~ In 1 gallon of water, add 1/8 teaspoon of the 22.4% sodium chlorite

(MMS). Does it matter that I am using well water for this? Also once

mixed up how long before I should use it up or throw it out and start

fresh? Also in your experience is this the only water given to the dog

or would there also be just regular water available as well.

I dont think that either of my dogs is ready to croak yet, so Im

wondering if trying the mix that is half this strength is the way to go

or have you seen that the stronger for 1 week first sees better results?

Both of these dogs have sensitive digestive systems so I can give them

some supplements but not a ton or else I see loose stools. I was

originally investigating MMS as an option for one of my dogs who xrays

show to have a rather large mass in one side of her lungs. She is an

older dog but still rather active and enjoying life, so I'd like to try

and help her. I originally took her in to try and figure out why she

was coughing, figured it was heart related not a lung tumor. And then

in the mean time I just found out that Dash tested positive for lyme.

So I figure the MMS may be able to assist with that as well.

In the cases of animals taking MMS what sorts of things have you seen

it help with?

Sorry if Im asking too many questions!

Anne

>

[Guest guest]

I was wondering though if I use the unactivated MMS diluted in the water and

have the activation occur with the acid in the stomach of the dog. What are

your thoughts on that?

Anne

>

> This is not going to work. The shelf life of mixed MMS is about 1/2 hr.

> The problem with animals & MMS is getting it into them. You basically

> have to mix it and shoot it into their mouth like they do horses... the

> only way I know.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had the same problem of getting the dogs to take it. I soaked a small piece

of bread with the AMMS, put a thin slice of cheese around it (cream cheese would

work too .... they love that stuff) and they always scarfed it right down.

Problem solved.

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I take a syringe without needle and mix 2 drops add 4 cc water then open animals

mouth and squirt. My dogs teeth have no plaque now it is am

> > > >

> > >

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>

[Guest guest]

Joe,

Doesn't the food nullify the MMS effect, as it would in us?

~Rod

[ ] Re: Veterinarian consult

I had the same problem of getting the dogs to take it. I soaked a small piece of bread with the AMMS, put a thin slice of cheese around it (cream cheese would work too .... they love that stuff) and they always scarfed it right down. Problem solved.> > >> >> >>

[Guest guest]

Hello Anne,

Well water is fine, and you have to use the gallon you make up before 5 years

has passed... It keeps fine.

We have been using this as the only water the animals drink. This strength is

strong for long term use, but should be fine for a month or two. After that,

cut it in half.

We have used this with older dogs that were beginning to " stiffen up. " The

progress is gradual, but you should see results in 4 - 5 weeks. At that time,

you cut the dose in half. We have been amazed with the results. It is almost

acting like an anti aging agent. I haven't quite figured out why and how this

works, but it seems to be helping the immune system clear out the crap in the

body.

We have only used this with dogs, cats, goats, sheep, cows, horses, and chickens

so far. It is too early to make a claim, but in most cases they seem to end up

more youthful. I have no idea if it would be effective for lyme or a lung

tumor. People with lyme have tried pulsing with this solution and have

anecdotally reported improvement, but no cures. The pulse rate is 4 weeks on

and 2 weeks off.

Several people have reported the side effect of having the tartar and plaque on

dogs teeth basically fall off... I am also not sure how that works, because

there isn't a lot of acid in a dogs mouth to activate the solution. I guess we

can live with this side effect.

Dogs have a decent amount of acid in their digestive system. This solution is

actually a weak form of chlorous acid. When it is swallowed, the stomach acid

will react with it and it will begin to release some of the available chlorine

dioxide. You are starting with around 22 PPM available chlorine dioxide. This

is strong enough to clear some of the bad stuff out, yet not too strong to cause

adverse effects. However, I always recommend that you watch for loose stools,

and adjust the concentration accordingly.

Now, if your dogs come down with ear infections, we have had remarkable results

with using an activated sodium chlorite solution, buffered to a near neutral PH.

We had one dog that almost died. He had an ear infection that was resistant to

antibiotics. The Vet put the camera in the ear and reported that the eardrum

was shredded. It was just a matter of time before the infection got into the

dogs brain. The ears had been packed with antibiotics three times and the

infection just progressed.

The dogs owner approached me with tears in her eyes. She loved her dog and

didn't want him to die. What was really great was that the Vet had typed the

bacteria that was causing the infection. When I looked up the CT value to kill

off that bacteria, I discovered that it was actually a wimp and could be easily

killed.

I instructed the owner on the safety aspects of these chemicals and then on how

to mix up a solution to use. I expected quick results, but was surprised that

it took about a week before the discharge from the ear was clear. The Vet

monitored the progress and was amazed at how well things healed up. He told me

that in addition to the bacteria there was also a yeast infection in the ear.

Since I was only geared up to kill the bacteria, it took longer to kill the

combination. It took about 2 months for the eardrum to completely heal, and the

dog is doing fine a year later.

While this is a remarkable healing, we have also eliminated " poodle ear " from

several dogs and stopped many minor ear infections.

We had one dog that found a dead goat and proceeded to roll in the mess. We

gave the dog one bath with some sodium chlorite added to the soap and ended up

with a neutral odor dog. He remained odor neutral until the next day when he

found some cow pies to roll in... The " enhanced " soap solution also worked for

that, but I think the dog as something missing from his diet.

I forgot to mention that we have also had very good results using sodium

chlorite with house birds and aquarium fish.

House birds seem to be able to get mild poisoning from chewing on their cages.

I think new cages are OK, but we had someone that had a large galvanized cage.

The birds would do fine at first, then drop dead. Since we started treating

with sodium chlorite, the birds have been doing fine. In birds it appears that

sodium chlorite chelates the metals out of the body, and acts like a

preventative against future incidents.

The fish tanks remain algae free and the water remains crystal clear. Plants

thrive and the fish remain free from infection.

I love to share the success stories, but it doesn't always turn out for the

better...

My wife called me while I was away on a business trip and told me my cat was

ill. When I got home I found that his kidneys had shut down. I was just

beginning my research into sodium chlorite, so I didn't know what to do. We

nursed him for a week and while he showed improvement, he finally passed away.

Our neighbors dog is lame in his hind quarters. He has been hit by a car and

there may be some inflammation in the joints or in his spinal cord. I gave the

neighbor a bottle of 5% sodium chlorite with instructions on how to add it to

the water. Some days there seems to be some improvement, and other days things

get worse. It has been about 3 weeks, so I am going to visit with them in

another week. I don't know if they are using the solution or not. Sometimes I

wish things would progress faster, but it doesn't appear that we are winning

with this one.

Finally, we end up with deer in our yard. One of the deer has mange in the

coat. I put out a water bucket with some sodium chlorite in it thinking that

the deer would take a drink and maybe it would clear up the coat. The

squirrels, raccoons, possums, and stray cats appear to all be very healthy, but

the deer's coat hasn't improved. I am thinking that I may have to catch him and

give him a bath...

Most of the time I feel that I am just scratching the surface with this stuff,

but we have had some pleasant successes. That is enough to keep me going.

Tom

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Jim,

Sorry but your information is incorrect.

If you mix up a solution by putting 0.625 ml (1/8 teaspoon) of 22.4% sodium

chlorite in 1 gallon of water, the solution will have a shelf life of about 5

years if you keep it out of UV light.

Tom

>

> This is not going to work. The shelf life of mixed MMS is about 1/2 hr.

> The problem with animals & MMS is getting it into them. You basically

> have to mix it and shoot it into their mouth like they do horses... the

> only way I know.

[Guest guest]

Hello Rod,

That is correct.

Tom

[Guest guest]

On 2010-04-16 10:44 AM, silverfox_science wrote:

> You may want to contact http://www.nzymes.com/pc/ They may be able to help.

???

They sell 2.2oz of 5% sodium chlorite for $21.

I wouldn't exactly calling ripping you off like that 'helping'.

--

[Guest guest]

Hello ,

I believe Anne already has some sodium chlorite.

However, we could look at MMS under the same light. The bottle costs around

$0.60, the lid adds about $0.16, and the chemicals to make 4 ounces add about

$1.50. That gives a total cost of raw materials for a bottle of MMS of $2.26.

By myself I can easily mix up, label and fill 30 bottles in an hour, so let's be

generous with the labor costs and say that it adds around $1.00 per bottle.

That brings the cost up to $3.26 per bottle. Most people have some sort of

overhead, so let's be generous with that also and say that the total cost runs

about $5.00 per bottle.

Sell it for $20 for a pretty good profit (400% mark up).

Nzymes 5% product has always been expensive. In their case the bottle, cap,

labor, and overhead would be about the same, but the chemical cost would be

reduced to about $0.20. Add in some overhead and their cost is up around $3.50.

Sell it for $21 for an even better profit (600% mark up).

In 1971 Bio-Cide International, Inc introduced the industrial strength sodium

chlorite product called Oxine. Citric acid is used to activate it, and tubs of

citric acid are sold along with gallons of Oxine. Oxine is a 2% solution, and I

believe it is still available at around $25.00 a gallon.

Looking at a price breakdown of Oxine we have about $2.50 for the bottle and lid

and about $3.00 for the chemicals. Add $1.00 for labor and about $2.50 for

overhead and we end up with $9.00 in cost.

Sell it for $25 for a decent profit (280% mark up).

There is a version of Oxine that is 5% sodium chlorite, but it is very difficult

to track down. Other than that, Nzymes is about the only other source of 5%.

You are better off purchasing MMS and diluting it down to 5% for general use.

Or, you can purchase Oxine and adjust the formulas up a little. Oxine is very

safe to handle and is approved for use in hospitals. It is strong enough to

sanitize and disinfect and has been in use for 39 years. It has a very good

track record.

The bottom line is that if you are capable, it is much cheaper to make your own.

Tom

> > You may want to contact http://www.nzymes.com/pc/ They may be able to help.

>

> ???

>

> They sell 2.2oz of 5% sodium chlorite for $21.

>

> I wouldn't exactly calling ripping you off like that 'helping'.

>

> --

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

MMS has to be activated in the glass before entering the stomach.

Sodium chlorite will burn the stomach when put in that way. That is why

it has to be activated.

Jim stresses on his web site to activate it before taking. As to giving

to a dog, I would start with one drop and see how they do before

increasing it.

I have a chihuahua and she only takes one drop. Otherwise I have to

clean up the carpet. I give it in tomato juice with a baby eye dropper

that is used to give a baby medicine. I bought it at the grocery store.

It holds a lot and is easy to give in the side of the mouth. One drop

twice a day is all I can give her. I put it in about one ounce of tomato

juice.

I do this for worms and parasites. It helps too.

Sometimes I use diatomateous earth powder in her food too.

Giving the MMS to dogs depends on their size. Mine weighs about 4

pounds. A dog of 20 + pounds might be able to take 2 drops activated.

Worth a try.

> >

> > This is not going to work. The shelf life of mixed MMS is about 1/2

hr.

> > The problem with animals & MMS is getting it into them. You

basically

> > have to mix it and shoot it into their mouth like they do horses...

the

> > only way I know.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I thought tomato juice had vit C? I use 1 drop ACTIVATED for every 25 lbs of

animal. I use 4CC in a syringe of water for each application. I have used this

on dogs cats and livestock with no side effects other than better health. I only

do this until the problem or health issue is resolved, then like you I feed

diatomaceous earth daily to my animals large and small.

> > >

> > > This is not going to work. The shelf life of mixed MMS is about 1/2

> hr.

> > > The problem with animals & MMS is getting it into them. You

> basically

> > > have to mix it and shoot it into their mouth like they do horses...

> the

> > > only way I know.

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

It is true Vi C (1,000 mg) does neutralize the MMS. But RW Knudsen has

only 20% Vit C so it is very low dosage. The RDA is about 45 to 95 mg a

day and again that is not too high. We have no problem with this brand

of tomato juice.

> > >

> > > I was wondering though if I use the unactivated MMS diluted in the

> > water and have the activation occur with the acid in the stomach of

the

> > dog. What are your thoughts on that?

> > >

> > > Anne

> > >

> > > --- In , Jim 6840268@

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > This is not going to work. The shelf life of mixed MMS is about

1/2

> > hr.

> > > > The problem with animals & MMS is getting it into them. You

> > basically

> > > > have to mix it and shoot it into their mouth like they do

horses...

> > the

> > > > only way I know.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Healing hope. 2 questions. Do you give once daily and do you give before or after a meal? Thanks so much Orrilia

From: healinghope <mfrreman@...> Sent: Sun, April 18, 2010 8:57:43 AMSubject: [ ] Re: Veterinarian consult

I thought tomato juice had vit C? I use 1 drop ACTIVATED for every 25 lbs of animal. I use 4CC in a syringe of water for each application. I have used this on dogs cats and livestock with no side effects other than better health. I only do this until the problem or health issue is resolved, then like you I feed diatomaceous earth daily to my animals large and small. ---

[Guest guest]

Morning and night, twice daily. After morning and nighttime feedings.

--- In , jr orrilia <dallas6568@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Healing hope.� 2 questions.� Do you give once daily and do you give

before or after a meal?� Thanks so much Orrilia

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: healinghope <mfrreman@...>

>

> Sent: Sun, April 18, 2010 8:57:43 AM

> Subject: [ ] Re: Veterinarian consult

>

> �

> I thought tomato juice had vit C? I use 1 drop ACTIVATED for every 25 lbs of

animal. I use 4CC in a syringe of water for each application. I have used this

on dogs cats and livestock with no side effects other than better health. I only

do this until the problem or health issue is resolved, then like you I feed

diatomaceous earth daily to my animals large and small.

>

> ---

>

[Guest guest]

Let me revise this if the animals are parasitic or very sickly I treat every

other hour until better then morning and night for at least 2 months. If the

animal seems fine for several weeks I stop treatment.

--- In , jr orrilia <dallas6568@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Healing hope.� 2 questions.� Do you give once daily and do you give

before or after a meal?� Thanks so much Orrilia

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: healinghope <mfrreman@...>

>

> Sent: Sun, April 18, 2010 8:57:43 AM

> Subject: [ ] Re: Veterinarian consult

>

> �

> I thought tomato juice had vit C? I use 1 drop ACTIVATED for every 25 lbs of

animal. I use 4CC in a syringe of water for each application. I have used this

on dogs cats and livestock with no side effects other than better health. I only

do this until the problem or health issue is resolved, then like you I feed

diatomaceous earth daily to my animals large and small.

>

> ---

>

[Guest guest]

Hello ,

You are correct. Drinking an industrial strength chemical straight can do

damage.

However that is not what we are talking about here.

With pets and their water dish we are using water to activate the mixture. The

dose is size adjusted because large animals drink more water than small animals.

Let's compare doses. The water solution has about 22 PPM available chlorine

dioxide, and nothing to interfere with it. Your 1 drop in one ounce of tomato

juice has about 260 PPM available chlorine dioxide and the chlorine dioxide is

used up interacting with the organic material in the tomato juice.

Tomato juice is fun to play with. When the concentration of chlorine dioxide

gets high enough to not be totally used up by the juice, it bleaches it.

While I have never tried it with tomato juice, a drop or two of citric acid

added to V8 gives it a little extra " kick. "

Tom

> > >

> > > This is not going to work. The shelf life of mixed MMS is about 1/2

> hr.

> > > The problem with animals & MMS is getting it into them. You

> basically

> > > have to mix it and shoot it into their mouth like they do horses...

> the

> > > only way I know.

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you, now I have 2 small chis' and would like to know how much to put in

their water dish. One is about 4 lbs and the other is about 12 lbs.

I am making the MMS/MSM drops with water for my husband and I to drink daily but

not sure how to use this for the pets.

I would like to put the MMS in their water daily for them. I dont like giving

them over the counter wormer meds.

As to the tomato juice for taking the MMS, I could not take the MMS in water

after 4 drops. The juice hides the taste. I have taken lots of bitter and bad

tasting herbs and etc but this is just too much. I can barely tolerate the

smell.

Thank you for the info.

> > > >

> > > > This is not going to work. The shelf life of mixed MMS is about 1/2

> > hr.

> > > > The problem with animals & MMS is getting it into them. You

> > basically

> > > > have to mix it and shoot it into their mouth like they do horses...

> > the

> > > > only way I know.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

On 2010-04-18 11:37 AM, mkathryn59 wrote:

> As to the tomato juice for taking the MMS, I could not take the MMS

> in water after 4 drops. The juice hides the taste. I have taken lots

> of bitter and bad tasting herbs and etc but this is just too much. I

> can barely tolerate the smell.

Ok, but this has nothing to do with the fact that the tomato juice

renders the chlorine dioxide mostly useless - which is most likely why

you tolerate it so much better...

--

[Guest guest]

Hello ,

With water dishes we have been mixing the solution by the gallon and then just

adding it to the water dish as necessary.

Start off using 0.625 ml (1/8 teaspoon) of the 22.4% sodium chlorite in 1 gallon

of water. After about a month of that strength, cut it in half. The easiest

way to cut this in half is to have 2 containers that hold a gallon each. Mix up

the gallon, then pour half of it into the other container. Finally fill both

containers up and you will end up with 2 gallons of water at half the

concentration.

The shelf life of this water is about 5 years if you keep it away from UV light.

I prefer to use the much safer to handle 5% concentration of sodium chlorite.

This allows you to mix a liter at a time which I find is easier for me.

When you put this water out, your pets will drink as much as they need, so you

don't have to worry about how much they weigh.

The half strength solution is also well tolerated by people.

One of the greatest misunderstandings about chlorine dioxide has to do with

concentrations. I have spent months arguing with Jim Humble about this. I was

pleased to see him change his protocol to using fewer drops.

Whenever you add organic material, like food or juice, to a chlorine dioxide

solution, the chlorine dioxide is used up reacting with the organic material.

The most effective way to use chlorine dioxide is to mix it with water and to

take it on an empty stomach. The problem with this is that chlorine dioxide is

a poison and higher concentrations cause distress. The idea is to have the

concentration low enough that you don't experience adverse effects, yet high

enough that it does something.

Over the past few years, people have been striving to reach the magic 15 drop

dose. When they experienced adverse effects, they were instructed that they

must be full of toxins and that what they are experiencing is a herx reaction.

The solution to this was to take it on a full stomach and to mix juices with it.

The net effect of this is to reduce the concentration of chlorine dioxide to a

point where the body can better tolerate it.

Rather than starting with a high concentration dose and adding things to it to

use up some of the chemicals, I think it is much better to use a much lower

concentration dose and just let it work.

When you hide the taste, you also are reducing the effectiveness of the

solution.

Let's look at your 4 drop dose.

4 drops of 22.4% sodium chlorite activated and put into 4 ounces of water will

give you a solution that has about 253 PPM available chlorine dioxide with about

25 - 30 PPM of that as free chlorine dioxide. On average, the body begins to

experience adverse effects when the concentration gets in the 25 - 60 PPM free

chlorine dioxide range.

To reduce the concentration of chlorine dioxide, there are a couple of things

you can do. One is to add organic material to the mixture in the form of juice.

A much better way is to simply add more water. If you mix up your 4 drop dose

and put it into 16 ounces of water, you will still notice an odor and a slight

yellow color, but you should not experience nausea, vomiting, or diarrhea.

This is far less dramatic, and everyone feels much better after a wild round of

diarrhea and colon cleansing, but I am not convinced that this is in the best

interest of attaining better health.

If you are near death from malaria, cholera, food poisoning, typhoid fever,

giardia, and/or something similar, go for the large dose and get those pathogens

out of your GI tract. Everyone else should slow down and systematically work to

eliminate the pathogens from the body.

I may be a bit old fashioned, but I happen to believe that smell and taste are

natural body defenses.

On a lighter side... I remember having a discussion about this with my mom.

She insisted that I eat my vegetables. I informed here that I was listening to

my inner body and it seemed that my body was more in tune with ice cream than

vegetables...

Over the years my body has changed and I now love vegetables. However I know of

no person or animal that when given the choice of pure water or water with a

high concentration of chlorine dioxide in it will choose the chlorine dioxide

water.

Tom

--- In , " mkathryn59 " <mkathryn59@...>

wrote:

>

> Thank you, now I have 2 small chis' and would like to know how much to put in

their water dish. One is about 4 lbs and the other is about 12 lbs.

> I am making the MMS/MSM drops with water for my husband and I to drink daily

but not sure how to use this for the pets.

> I would like to put the MMS in their water daily for them. I dont like giving

them over the counter wormer meds.

>

> As to the tomato juice for taking the MMS, I could not take the MMS in water

after 4 drops. The juice hides the taste. I have taken lots of bitter and bad

tasting herbs and etc but this is just too much. I can barely tolerate the

smell.

>

> Thank you for the info.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Tom,

I really appreciate this info. I am going to save it and follow it for

us. We all need all the help we can get from those more experienced. I

love the groups that provide help for the ones who are sick and need it.

Regards,

> >

> > Thank you, now I have 2 small chis' and would like to know how much

to put in their water dish. One is about 4 lbs and the other is about 12

lbs.

> > I am making the MMS/MSM drops with water for my husband and I to

drink daily but not sure how to use this for the pets.

> > I would like to put the MMS in their water daily for them. I dont

like giving them over the counter wormer meds.

> >

> > As to the tomato juice for taking the MMS, I could not take the MMS

in water after 4 drops. The juice hides the taste. I have taken lots of

bitter and bad tasting herbs and etc but this is just too much. I can

barely tolerate the smell.

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> > Thank you for the info.

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