Looking for input

[Guest guest]

testing is only for insurance purposes or possibly helpful in the

hands of an extremely experienced LLMD.

i believe that testing by any lab for any other purposes is a total

waste of time and money.

lyme is a chronic condition that shows up on some tests at some times.

meanwhile cross reproduce-ability of tests is totally unproven.

testing is a sand pit.

if you believe you have lyme, treat it as such. tests will not change

the issue as far as accurate

diagnosis.

i will add that if you think you have lyme and your treatment is not

working after a month -

go to another treatment.

>I just finished my two weeks of antibiotics for Lyme and am

>wondering about a few things. I can probably answer the questions

>myself but I am looking for reassurance.

>

>Being that I was diagnosed only 2 weeks ago, I have just completed

>my 2 weeks of doxy. I know that this is not enough to wipe out all

>of what has been in my system for years.

>

>Will I be wasting a LLMD's time if I make an appointment NOW and get

>down there only to find out that I am cured? Should I just ask my

>family doc to repeat the titer in 4 weeks and go from there?

>

>I guess I am feeling this way because right now I am in one of my

> " good " phases. Who knows when the next flare will strike. I am

>trying to get info from my insurance company and of course unless I

>know the procedures they will be doing and codes, they cannot tell

>me if it will be covered. :-(

>

>Thanks in advance.

>

>

>* ~ Kami in PA~ *

>

>kamilleon@...

>

>/AIM : kamielleon

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kami,

go directly to a lyme dr. I wasted too many yrs w/these drs who have no

experience w/lyme.

[ ] Looking for Input

I just finished my two weeks of antibiotics for Lyme and am wondering about a

few things. I can probably answer the questions myself but I am looking for

reassurance.

Being that I was diagnosed only 2 weeks ago, I have just completed my 2 weeks

of doxy. I know that this is not enough to wipe out all of what has been in my

system for years.

Will I be wasting a LLMD's time if I make an appointment NOW and get down

there only to find out that I am cured? Should I just ask my family doc to

repeat the titer in 4 weeks and go from there?

I guess I am feeling this way because right now I am in one of my " good "

phases. Who knows when the next flare will strike. I am trying to get info from

my insurance company and of course unless I know the procedures they will be

doing and codes, they cannot tell me if it will be covered. :-(

Thanks in advance.

* ~ Kami in PA~ *

kamilleon@...

/AIM : kamielleon

[Guest guest]

You could always give it a try for a week and see how you go but 2 per meal

is generally enough for most (one even). Make sure you give them with ANY food

- what happens at lunchtime? My son is a grazer, we used up to 10 per day

when we started out but I couldn;t afford to keep that up so used the enzymes

in cold juice which I kept in the firdge and gave him a few gulps which each

small snack.

As time goes on you may want to experiemnt with between meals for added gut

healing, cleansing and any viral issues.

HTH

Mandi in UK

My question is should we be happy with what we are

seeing now and maybe increase the other vitamins or should we go for

6 (2 at Breakfast, 2 at dinner and 2 with a bedtime snack) and see

what happens?

[Guest guest]

Hi nna, this is JMO but I think it's better to see a therapist and let

him or her say there's really no need, rather than not see a therapist and

find out later that a child was/is suffering from a treatable disorder such

as trich (ocd, ts, whatever.)

Most kids with disorders benefit from earlier rather than later dx and

intervention.

Kathy R. in Indiana

----- Original Message -----

From: " nna " <mdonlon@...

> Hi everyone,

>

> Just looking for opinions...

>

> I know someone whose daughter has been pulling her hair out, but only

> does it when watching TV or at bedtime, when she's trying to get to

> sleep. She has some other behavioral issues, nothing severe, but her

> pediatrician thought it might be a good idea to have her see a

> therapist. Her mother is concerned about trich, but I feel that since

> she's only doing it at those specific times, it's more of a habit or

> comfort (like twirling your hair, etc) than a NEED to do it.

>

> Of course, her mom is worried it could escalate into something more

> severe, plus she does feel her daughter has some anxiety issues. Do

> you think it's necessary to see a therapist, or would you hold off and

> see if it's one of those phases that will pass? I gave the # of our

> therapist, but am just curious what others think.

>

> Thanks,

>

> nna.

[Guest guest]

Have you thought to talk to the recruiting or HR department for the hospital

where you hope to work? Explain your situation and ask them what they would

recommend? Maybe there's a need in an area that they'll train you in and/or

pay for your school. They maybe more familiar with training programs near

the hospital too. You're lucky my local resort community hospital is a 17

bed hospital. What about Phlebotomy?

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 5:52 AM, langusd <langusd@...> wrote:

> I live in a rural / resort area of Michigan, I have been a

> Mechanical Designer for thirty years (automotive related). I have

> been out of work since mid November. This region of Michigan has

> very few employers left except for the (large) hospital. I made the

> decision to try to retrain myself as fast and as cheap as I could so

> I could get some kind of job. The local hospital always runs ads for

> Pharmacy Techs, so I went down that road. The closest community

> college that offered tech training is 2+ hours away so I decided to

> do the web / home study based, Pharmacy Choice Inc, RxTech School.

> Upon completion my intent is to take the PTCE in the second week of

> April. My plan was to follow that in the last week of April by

> taking the following two certification courses from the NPTA

> (National Pharmacy Technician Association) at the NPTA Training

> Institute in Houston:

> NPTA's Sterile Product Certification Course

> NPTA's Compoundinging |Certification Course

>

> In order for the hospital to even look at me, I feel I need to

> get as many credentials or certifications as I can since I don't have

> any hands on experience.

> The two certification courses from the NPTA with travel expenses will

> set me back $1800 + and a week of my life in a sleeze motel room in

> Texas. If it gets me in the door, I am willing to do it.

>

> Any thoughts on what I have done or plan to do?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Langusd,

Check out the NEED for Telepharmacy in your rural area.

EVEN though I am 100% for education, I personally would NOT put out

so much money $1800, at this time until I was sure that I had a

chance at a position. You paint a very bleak picture of being hired

since there is only ONE hospital in your area.

I would study for the exam become certified, try to get a job or

volunteer or externship. I would speak to the pharmacy department

while studying and ask them if they have an externship or volunteer

work available for you. Usually volunteers are NOT taught pharmacy,

but run errands and noting else: do not handle drugs. They are

usually NOT behind the counter but stop by the window to pick up and

deliver non-med items.

I would explain to the hospital that you are willing to go to the

classes in texas if your future employer would requier it or want it.

MOST hospitals do their OWN orientationa and IV training. While they

may be happy that you have gone to classes they will still need to

train you. Unless Michigan requires IV Certification courses, I would

not spend the money right now. Again many hospitals do their OWN IV

certification.

So do soe research and interview the hospital pharmacy director or

staff pharmacists.

Eventually attending such certification classes will help you

progress. I think it is a bit premature, but highly commendable. If

you were living in a dense metropolitan or urban area or planning to

move or commute to one, then I would agree for you to take the

classes in order to compete and to get a job as a tech.

While I rarely talk anyone out of pharmacy technician Debbie makes a

valid point of asking you to consider another medical field.

Optician (growing field as baby boomers become diabetic and age)

Dental assistant(if you can stomach blood)

Medical billing (is taught online, but you have to be very business

minded to work from home or find work at a doctor's office)

Medical assistant(if you can stomach blood, poor pay)

Phlebotomy (if you can stomach blood, good pay in some states)

Try using www.salary.com to see what techs in Michigan make.

What does Rx School cost you? Does the $1800 include the cost of

RxSchool?

Will you get some type of a lab kit?

Please keep us posted with your decision and results.

Most respectfully,

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS

Founder/Owner

PS I beleive ther eare less expensive IV Certification Programs

Compounding certificate will be useful IF you plan to work making

compounded drugs. Holdof funtil you KNOW what area of pharmaacy you

want to specialize in or is available to you. Consider also managed

care (pharmacy).

>

> I live in a rural / resort area of Michigan, I have been a

> Mechanical Designer for thirty years (automotive related). I have

> been out of work since mid November. This region of Michigan has

> very few employers left except for the (large) hospital. I made

the

> decision to try to retrain myself as fast and as cheap as I could

so

> I could get some kind of job. The local hospital always runs ads

for

> Pharmacy Techs, so I went down that road. The closest community

> college that offered tech training is 2+ hours away so I decided to

> do the web / home study based, Pharmacy Choice Inc, RxTech School.

> Upon completion my intent is to take the PTCE in the second week of

> April. My plan was to follow that in the last week of April by

> taking the following two certification courses from the NPTA

> (National Pharmacy Technician Association) at the NPTA Training

> Institute in Houston:

> NPTA's Sterile Product Certification Course

> NPTA's Compoundinging |Certification Course

>

> In order for the hospital to even look at me, I feel I need to

> get as many credentials or certifications as I can since I don't

have

> any hands on experience.

> The two certification courses from the NPTA with travel expenses

will

> set me back $1800 + and a week of my life in a sleeze motel room in

> Texas. If it gets me in the door, I am willing to do it.

>

> Any thoughts on what I have done or plan to do?

>

[Guest guest]

Any thoughts on this Tom ~ wondering if you have experienced this with any dogs:

I've been giving Gusty and Dash 1/8 tsp. to gal of water MMS for about 6 days

now. After a few days I noticed them being more tired, but especially Gusty

(one with the lung tumor). Sometimes she doesnt want to get up, will lay there

with eyes open but doesnt even lift her head. When sleeping seems so out of it

and in a deep, deep sleep.

This morning when she finally got up she was very unstable on her feet for a

bit. For a minute I thought she was re-experiencing vestibular disease which

she had a few years back due to a rabies vaccine reaction. Once she got outside

she seemed okay.

Guess I'm wondering if I should go to 1/2 strength on this and take things a bit

more slowly for her. She still eats okay, but isnt spending as much time

outside and would rather come in and sleep. Other than acting very tired she

doesnt seem sick in any other way.

Anne

[Guest guest]

Hello Anne,

I have not had any experience like that...

Interesting.

I would suggest dropping back to half the strength and see if energy returns.

I will ask around and see if anyone else has experienced anything close to this.

Let us know how things progress.

Tom

--- In , " surveydog04 " <awhite9@...>

wrote:

>

> Any thoughts on this Tom ~ wondering if you have experienced this with any

dogs:

>

> I've been giving Gusty and Dash 1/8 tsp. to gal of water MMS for about 6 days

now. After a few days I noticed them being more tired, but especially Gusty

(one with the lung tumor). Sometimes she doesnt want to get up, will lay there

with eyes open but doesnt even lift her head. When sleeping seems so out of it

and in a deep, deep sleep.

>

> This morning when she finally got up she was very unstable on her feet for a

bit. For a minute I thought she was re-experiencing vestibular disease which

she had a few years back due to a rabies vaccine reaction. Once she got outside

she seemed okay.

>

> Guess I'm wondering if I should go to 1/2 strength on this and take things a

bit more slowly for her. She still eats okay, but isnt spending as much time

outside and would rather come in and sleep. Other than acting very tired she

doesnt seem sick in any other way.

>

>

> Anne

>