Re: LIGHT WATER Now Ellis Water Machine

February 6, 2010

Ron: I've read some scary reports on curezone.com about john ellis. Maybe it is true or not. What is your take on people saying their being ripped off after buying his machines. I personally will order some of his bottled water to try before I would invest in a machine.

What is your take on either disinfo or just dissatisfied customers.

Bob

[ ] Re: LIGHT WATER Now Ellis Water Machine

Ron: May I ask which machine you prchased? Also, would you be so kind as to give an update in about a month on any additional health benefits you have noticed? ThanksDiane>> YOU ASKED ABOUT LIGHT WATER Â The machine Iâ€™m going to tell you about is so far ahead of anything on the market that words can not tell you, for these same words have been used by the promoters of lesser products ad nasium.Â This Ellis Water Machine is the mark all others try to stand next to but cannot.> >

February 7, 2010

Hey Bob, I want to buy his water too first, but will wait awhile yet.

Pls let us know what u think of the water after you try it.

Thanks, O Jia Li

From: Keycross <crossshapedkeys@...> Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 7:23:21 AMSubject: Re: [ ] Re: LIGHT WATER Now Ellis Water Machine

Ron: I've read some scary reports on curezone.com about john ellis. Maybe it is true or not. What is your take on people saying their being ripped off after buying his machines. I personally will order some of his bottled water to try before I would invest in a machine.

What is your take on either disinfo or just dissatisfied customers.

Bob

[miracle_mineral_ supplement] Re: LIGHT WATER Now Ellis Water Machine

Ron: May I ask which machine you prchased? Also, would you be so kind as to give an update in about a month on any additional health benefits you have noticed? ThanksDiane>> YOU ASKED ABOUT LIGHT WATER Ã‚ The machine IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m going to tell you about is so far ahead of anything on the market that words can not tell you, for these same words have been used by the promoters of lesser products ad nasium.Ã‚ This Ellis Water Machine is the mark all others try to stand next to but cannot.> >

February 7, 2010

http://www.chem1.com/CQ/johnellisbunk.html

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> >> YOU ASKED ABOUT LIGHT WATER Ã‚Â The machine IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m going to tell you

about is so far ahead of anything on the market that words can not tell you, for

these same words have been used by the promoters of lesser products ad

nasium.Ã‚Â This Ellis Water Machine is the mark all others try to stand

next to but cannot.

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February 8, 2010

I must jump in here....I've have one of the johnellis machines for several

years now and it is great......now for the bad news...I have needed some new

heaters for the machine for the last couple of years and calling and e-mails to

try and get some new heaters are landing on deaf ears...after you buy his

product you no longer exist.....I got fed up and went and got a vitalizer

plus...and it gives you really good water too......and a lot cheaper and if you

have problems you can get a hold of people to help...........its really to bad

Mr. Ellis has this negative attitude when it comes to helping customers....as I

said ...it is really a one of a kind machine....but if you can't get replacement

parts what good is it...every time you turn around are you sus-post to fork over

another $2500.00 or more........sorry to sound so irritated but to spend that

much and not be able to use it is frustrating...anyway that's my 2

cents...garycoutney

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> Hey Bob,Â I want to buy his water too first, but will wait awhile yet.

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> Pls let us know what u think of the water after you try it.

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> Thanks,Â O Jia Li

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February 8, 2010

Bob

Like I said earlier, this machine is not consumer friendly, and the website

creators and the people you talk to when you call are not trained 'consumer

slick', which is good. is an engineer/inventor who might have been the

genius nerd in school with no social skills. I don't know but I like him and I

think he is regular and maybe has some fears about allowing help in. I also

think that they have to watch very carefully as to what they say, there are

laws. And yet saying something like 'this cures everything' is not what one

should do. Bug it just might. If it cleans the body of toxins like he says,l

then all you need next is ormus. I'll explain ormus later in this note.

Back to the machine. I have found that I run the machine about 12 hours

straight to get about 6 gallons. I give some to friends etc. While I'm not

using it I put a gallon of 5% vinegar in it to clean off the organic minerals

that build up. I let it sit that way for 2 to 4 days, then clean it out and get

ready to make more of the water. This has kept the machine in very good

working order. I did this because the build up of minerals is quite quick. The

build up is on the vortex tube in the water pot and in the water half of the

boiler section of the smaller metal sphere. If you look at the picture of it

you will see that there are two ozone making bulbs that are placed loosely in

the 2 holes in the boiler sphere. With the bulbs removed I looked down one hole

and put a flashlight shining downs the other hole which allowed me to see inside

quite effectively. I saw a lot of organic mineral build up which had stopped the

machine from working. It was not getting hot enough to steam distill for this

build up. At this point is where many have had problems and most people are not

as inquisitive and willing to do a search when a product stops working. This is

when I found a long soak with the vinegar with an additive, which Ellis

recommends, that does this job also, was added. All the minerals were gone

after the first long soak. At this point I have had no problems at all. The

friends that turned me on to this product and bought one also said that the

water pot out flow got gummed up with minerals. With an acid soak, the one

gallon white vinegar, this also would be taken care of.

Another criticism is that it appears that rust builds up on certain parts of the

machine over time. This is not a true conclusion. I have a rust inhibiter that

converts rust to another substance which can be found in real paint stores, not

Home Depot. When I used it on these spots the rust color did not change to

black, but rust does. In the instructions Ellis says this is iron elements that

come from the water as it vapors. I think he is right here and this does not

inhibit the machine in any way.

Muscle testing is not a science but one can get many answers from it that have

been proven very accurate. I've done this MT for 30 years or more. Doing this I

get that my body burden has been lessoned more than half. So if my body burden

was 100 it is now 30. Take it with a grain of salt, but I'm comfortable with it

and it hurts nothing. The animals love the water. The website, although google

would give it a fat F, does give some very interesting stories with cows and

farm wells.

My latest findings is that when I drink over 4 glasses of this water a day my

body starts to mobilize toxins 'quick time'. I start itching which I can stop

by a hot bath/shower to open the pores and brushing the skin with a cleaning

agent as hard as I can stand with the green rough plastic side of a dish washer

sponge.

I don't remember if I told this story but in a humorous way I accuse my wife of

waiting a while when I get involved with something new, to see if I'm going to

die. I tell friends that she waits to see if I live and if I do then she gets

on the band wagon with me. She has shown the same pattern of detox that I have

gone through a week earlier because of the watch and see game she plays. That in

itself is quite revealing.

If anyone is interested in my story here as time passes ask me. If I don't

respond on forum get me privately and I will respond via forum. Although this

stuff is suppose to convert normal 103 degree bond angel water to 114 angel with

a one drop mix to a glass full, we now have started drinking it straight and we

feel we will be drinking this for life, unless I hear about something better and

I'm always looking. Ellis does suggest that you keep a good high mineral

supplement and other good nutrient behavior. There are some who sound with

authority that distilled water leaches out minerals etc. Ellis does not agree,

I believe I read. But good nutrition and supplements is just best advice no

matter what.

However, sadly we come from a society that is quick to judge and criticize and

we believe we are never wrong and it has to be the other guys fault. I am so

pleased this guy invented this machine and stayed the course. It's a lot of

money and they have a very poor sales communication, and I only know what I have

found, and this really doesn't help when you think your might be throwing your

money away.

At this point this is the best I can do to clear the path for you. Other things

I think are the best is, sing the HU for greater consciousness, look HU up on

google, also look up ormus, if ormus interest you buy from leafteck.com. This

is me. I go down 100 ft and out several milesin the Pacific Ocean and

concentrate these ormus elements. The ormus people subtleenergies.com think

this is the greatest discovery in modern time. This is great stuff but look

into it closely and see for yourself. The reason I say this is that you have to

spin these ormus elements in a vortex magnetic blender to get the results. But

there is an easy way to make such for experimental tries which the leafteck

website directs you to. I'm really retired and this is one of the good things

to do with time on ones hands.

Best to you and all Ron

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> > YOU ASKED ABOUT LIGHT WATER Â The machine Iâ?Tm going to tell you about

is so far ahead of anything on the market that words can not tell you, for these

same words have been used by the promoters of lesser products ad nasium.Â This

Ellis Water Machine is the mark all others try to stand next to but cannot.

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February 8, 2010

Let me jump in also again. I just bought mine and your experience may be true

for all I don't know. But He gives a parts list price and address. Why don't

you soak the heater in vinegar for several days. Mine started to not heat for

the scale on it. Now it works again.

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> > Hey Bob,Â I want to buy his water too first, but will wait awhile yet.

> >

> > Pls let us know what u think of the water after you try it.

> >

> > Thanks,Â O Jia Li

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February 8, 2010

I bought the most expensive one

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> > YOU ASKED ABOUT LIGHT WATER Â The machine Iâ?Tm going to tell you about

is so far ahead of anything on the market that words can not tell you, for these

same words have been used by the promoters of lesser products ad nasium.Â This

Ellis Water Machine is the mark all others try to stand next to but cannot.

> >

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February 9, 2010

I have never seen or heard of a parts list...if you have this info I would sure

appreciate it...also the black coating on the heaters have deep pits and its

getting down into the metal.............what happened, I have no idea...this

would cause toxic metal to get into the water.....Like I have stated...the

machine is a one of a kind and I would really like to be able to use it

again....I cannot afford a new one...and I can't get a hold of any body at the

company to help me solve this...........if the machine didn't work and didn't do

anything for me I wouldn't be upset that I can't get replacement

parts..........thank you for your input....gary

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> Let me jump in also again. I just bought mine and your experience may be true

for all I don't know. But He gives a parts list price and address. Why don't

you soak the heater in vinegar for several days. Mine started to not heat for

the scale on it. Now it works again.

> --- In , " c " <gdc4now64836@>

wrote:

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> > I must jump in here....I've have one of the johnellis machines for several