Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Thank you so much for the information - and telling it like it is. That's very important and I didn't realize how dramatic the effects could be.Thanks!From: healinghope <mfrreman@...> Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 12:01:15 PMSubject: [ ] Re: MMS 2 MMS1 and MMS2 will bother you until detox is complete. Neither bother me now. During the detox many days of work were missed by me. Just telling it like it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 It is the best detox I have ever found however with that comes the purge. The exposures from environment food vaccines ect are immense. --- In , Jeff Maahs <j_maahs@...> wrote: > > > > Thank you so much for the information - and telling it like it is. That's very important and I didn't realize how dramatic the effects could be. > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: healinghope <mfrreman@...> > > Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 12:01:15 PM > Subject: [ ] Re: MMS 2 > > > MMS1 and MMS2 will bother you until detox is complete. Neither bother me now. During the detox many days of work were missed by me. Just telling it like it is. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 And, if you are a believer in chemtrails, removes heavy metals...a.k.a. barium and aluminum. Lynn --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@...> wrote: > > It is the best detox I have ever found however with that comes the purge. The exposures from environment food vaccines ect are immense. > > --- In , Jeff Maahs <j_maahs@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thank you so much for the information - and telling it like it is. That's very important and I didn't realize how dramatic the effects could be. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: healinghope <mfrreman@> > > > > Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 12:01:15 PM > > Subject: [ ] Re: MMS 2 > > > > > > MMS1 and MMS2 will bother you until detox is complete. Neither bother me now. During the detox many days of work were missed by me. Just telling it like it is. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Lynn I am a believer. --- In , " Liberty " <libertylover2@...> wrote: > > And, if you are a believer in chemtrails, removes > heavy metals...a.k.a. barium and aluminum. > > Lynn > > --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@> wrote: > > > > It is the best detox I have ever found however with that comes the purge. The exposures from environment food vaccines ect are immense. > > > > --- In , Jeff Maahs <j_maahs@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you so much for the information - and telling it like it is. That's very important and I didn't realize how dramatic the effects could be. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: healinghope <mfrreman@> > > > > > > Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 12:01:15 PM > > > Subject: [ ] Re: MMS 2 > > > > > > > > > MMS1 and MMS2 will bother you until detox is complete. Neither bother me now. During the detox many days of work were missed by me. Just telling it like it is. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Jeff keep in mind I was VERY sick with lyme disease and doing the old protocol. Fact is it has worked for me, but getting here was hell sometimes. Fevers chills diarrhea and even nausea. But now I work a full day and feel better than I have for years. The herx from lyme is comparable to syphilis for one maintaining health this may not be the case. However with or environment we should all be toxic. --- In , Jeff Maahs <j_maahs@...> wrote: > > > > Thank you so much for the information - and telling it like it is. That's very important and I didn't realize how dramatic the effects could be. > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: healinghope <mfrreman@...> > > Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 12:01:15 PM > Subject: [ ] Re: MMS 2 > > > MMS1 and MMS2 will bother you until detox is complete. Neither bother me now. During the detox many days of work were missed by me. Just telling it like it is. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@...> wrote: > > Jeff keep in mind I was VERY sick with lyme disease and doing the old protocol. Fact is it has worked for me, but getting here was hell sometimes. Fevers chills diarrhea and even nausea. But now I work a full day and feel better than I have for years. The herx from lyme is comparable to syphilis for one maintaining health this may not be the case. However with or environment we should all be toxic. > Healing: Was fatigue or exhaustion a lyme symptom for you? If so, could you describe your improvement in that area? Thanks.... and congratulations on working your way back. Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Maybe if you had reduced a few drops it would have reduced the herx effect? The first time I took it, I was so eager to get rid of my issues that I did not reduce the numbers of drops when I had to as Jim recomends. :-) From: healinghope <mfrreman@...>Subject: [ ] Re: MMS 2 Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 11:20 PM Jeff keep in mind I was VERY sick with lyme disease and doing the old protocol. Fact is it has worked for me, but getting here was hell sometimes. Fevers chills diarrhea and even nausea. But now I work a full day and feel better than I have for years. The herx from lyme is comparable to syphilis for one maintaining health this may not be the case. However with or environment we should all be toxic.>> > > Thank you so much for the information - and telling it like it is. That's very important and I didn't realize how dramatic the effects could be.> > Thanks!> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> From: healinghope <mfrreman@.. .>> miracle_mineral_ supplement> Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 12:01:15 PM> Subject: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] Re: MMS 2> > > MMS1 and MMS2 will bother you until detox is complete. Neither bother me now. During the detox many days of work were missed by me. Just telling it like it is.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 My herx is over I can take 15 drops now and have no effect. I am detoxed. Thanks for the advice found this to be true last year. > > > From: healinghope <mfrreman@...> > Subject: [ ] Re: MMS 2 > > Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 11:20 PM > > >  > > > > Jeff keep in mind I was VERY sick with lyme disease and doing the old protocol. Fact is it has worked for me, but getting here was hell sometimes. Fevers chills diarrhea and even nausea. But now I work a full day and feel better than I have for years. The herx from lyme is comparable to syphilis for one maintaining health this may not be the case. However with or environment we should all be toxic. > > --- In miracle_mineral_ supplement, Jeff Maahs <j_maahs@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Thank you so much for the information - and telling it like it is. That's very important and I didn't realize how dramatic the effects could be. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: healinghope <mfrreman@ .> > > miracle_mineral_ supplement > > Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 12:01:15 PM > > Subject: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] Re: MMS 2 > > > > > > MMS1 and MMS2 will bother you until detox is complete. Neither bother me now. During the detox many days of work were missed by me. Just telling it like it is. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Fatigue and exhaustion are FOR SURE one of the symptoms. When doing the mms1 there were days I spent in bed before healing more. Yes I still battle fatigue some. --- In , " DianeS " <dsomerstn@...> wrote: > > > > --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@> wrote: > > > > Jeff keep in mind I was VERY sick with lyme disease and doing the old protocol. Fact is it has worked for me, but getting here was hell sometimes. Fevers chills diarrhea and even nausea. But now I work a full day and feel better than I have for years. The herx from lyme is comparable to syphilis for one maintaining health this may not be the case. However with or environment we should all be toxic. > > > Healing: Was fatigue or exhaustion a lyme symptom for you? If so, could you describe your improvement in that area? Thanks.... and congratulations on working your way back. > Diane > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 On 2010-02-07 4:20 PM, healinghope <mfrreman@...> wrote: > Jeff keep in mind I was VERY sick with lyme disease and doing the old > protocol. Fact is it has worked for me, but getting here was hell > sometimes. Fevers chills diarrhea and even nausea. But now I work a > full day and feel better than I have for years. The herx from lyme is > comparable to syphilis Hi healinghope, I'm curious - did you use any clay/charcoal to try to minimize the cleansing/detox reactions? I'm wondering if ramping up on their use would help minimize these extreme reactions for those suffering from Lyme and other seriously debilitating conditions... -- Best regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 On 2010-02-08 6:10 AM, Arie Alon <maculeleh@...> wrote: > Then when I just hopened it, the chloric vapor gases where so strong > that I ended up with a burning nose and some breathlesness. > So I decided to order the ready made product in capsules. > How did you handle this without these problems? > Or maybe the swimming pool CH is different? Capsulate it in a well ventilated area, and be careful not to breathe the fumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 If you were just starting this now would you skip MMS1 and only use MMS2? Jeff From: healinghope <mfrreman@...> Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 7:05:09 AMSubject: [ ] Re: MMS 2 My herx is over I can take 15 drops now and have no effect. I am detoxed. Thanks for the advice found this to be true last year. > > > > > > > > Thank you so much for the information - and telling it like it is. That's very important and I didn't realize how dramatic the effects could be. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: healinghope <mfrreman@ .> > > miracle_mineral_ supplement > > Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 12:01:15 PM > > Subject: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] Re: MMS 2 > > > > > > MMS1 and MMS2 will bother you until detox is complete. Neither bother me now. During the detox many days of work were missed by me. Just telling it like it is. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Is there any difference from the swiming pool one sold in stores, which appear to be powder and the one sold at chemical supply shops which are granulated?> Then when I just hopened it, the chloric vapor gases where so strong> that I ended up with a burning nose and some breathlesness.> So I decided to order the ready made product in capsules.> How did you handle this without these problems?> Or maybe the swimming pool CH is different?Capsulate it in a well ventilated area, and be careful not to breathethe fumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 On 2010-02-08 10:50 AM, Arie Alon <maculeleh@...> wrote: > Is there any difference from the swiming pool one sold in stores, which > appear to be powder and the one sold at chemical supply shops which are > granulated? The stuff I bought at the pool supply store was granulated... The main thing to be aware of is, some pool shock is *not* calcium hypochlorite - just always check and make sure the main ingredient is calcium hypopchlorite, with the rest of the ingredients being *inert*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Get a painters mask and plastic gloves, it sticks to your fingers. Keep a door or a window open On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 4:45 am, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2010-02-08 6:10 AM, Arie Alon <maculeleh@...> wrote: >> Then when I just hopened it, the chloric vapor gases where so strong >> that I ended up with a burning nose and some breathlesness. >> So I decided to order the ready made product in capsules. >> How did you handle this without these problems? >> Or maybe the swimming pool CH is different? > > Capsulate it in a well ventilated area, and be careful not to breathe > the fumes. > > > > Android Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 If just starting I would use both MMS1 and MMS2. If having to make a choice of the two I would use MMS1. > > > > > > From: healinghope <mfrreman@ .> > > Subject: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] Re: MMS 2 > > miracle_mineral_ supplement > > Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 11:20 PM > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > Jeff keep in mind I was VERY sick with lyme disease and doing the old protocol. Fact is it has worked for me, but getting here was hell sometimes. Fevers chills diarrhea and even nausea. But now I work a full day and feel better than I have for years. The herx from lyme is comparable to syphilis for one maintaining health this may not be the case. However with or environment we should all be toxic. > > > > --- In miracle_mineral_ supplement, Jeff Maahs <j_maahs@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you so much for the information - and telling it like it is. That's very important and I didn't realize how dramatic the effects could be. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > From: healinghope <mfrreman@ .> > > > miracle_mineral_ supplement > > > Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 12:01:15 PM > > > Subject: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] Re: MMS 2 > > > > > > > > > MMS1 and MMS2 will bother you until detox is complete. Neither bother me now. During the detox many days of work were missed by me. Just telling it like it is. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Tans, > Never used charcoal for myself the complement to the detox was more herbal, and > supplemental. If doing it again myself, for sure added would be > Essiac Tea, D3, C, E, Magnesium Zinc Calcium, Milk Thistle. Of course the > supplemental C would be within the 2 hour window of the MMS1. I also found high > quality colostrum very helpful. > > > > > > Jeff keep in mind I was VERY sick with lyme disease and doing the old > > > protocol. Fact is it has worked for me, but getting here was hell > > > sometimes. Fevers chills diarrhea and even nausea. But now I work a > > > full day and feel better than I have for years. The herx from lyme is > > > comparable to syphilis > > > > Hi healinghope, > > > > I'm curious - did you use any clay/charcoal to try to minimize the > > cleansing/detox reactions? > > > > I'm wondering if ramping up on their use would help minimize these > > extreme reactions for those suffering from Lyme and other seriously > > debilitating conditions... > > > > -- > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 On 2010-02-10 9:03 AM, healinghope wrote: > Tans Do you really beleive someone with lymes enjoys the herx or > " detox " , Nope... and since I didn't *say* that, I fail to see why you would ask such a question as if I did. > strange how you phrase things sometimes. Strange how some people (some[times] intentionally, some[times] not) mis-read things sometimes... > Herx is unpleasant but necessary. Often unpleasant, certainly - necessary? Maybe sometimes, but as I said, there are a lot of things you can do to minimize, and in many cases, even *eliminate* it, the biggest being clay/charcoal slurries. > Here is another suggestion for herxing. Adding charcoal to > this could help many also. > http://www.lyme.aquahobby.eu/herx.html This page incorrectly limits the cause of herx to antibiotic use. This is only one, and not even the biggest, cause. As for the suggestions - drinking lots of water is one of the oldest/most common suggestion given for assisting the body in detoxing, as are hot baths and fresh lemon water... Adding CLAY/charcoal slurries (not sure why you ignore the clay part) would help pretty much *everyone* who adds them to their program, and will minimize the herx symptoms (but not the benefits) in virtually all cases, and totally *eliminate* them in many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Tans, with apologies if you've already posted this info, would you please post your "recipe" for your slurry, and sources for your ingredients. many thanks...going through some major herx..would love to alleviate the nasties. judi From: Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@...> Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 5:13:00 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Re: MMS 2 On 2010-02-10 9:03 AM, healinghope wrote:> Tans Do you really beleive someone with lymes enjoys the herx or> "detox",Nope... and since I didn't *say* that, I fail to see why you would asksuch a question as if I did.> strange how you phrase things sometimes.Strange how some people (some[times] intentionally, some[times] not)mis-read things sometimes...> Herx is unpleasant but necessary.Often unpleasant, certainly - necessary? Maybe sometimes, but as I said,there are a lot of things you can do to minimize, and in many cases,even *eliminate* it, the biggest being clay/charcoal slurries.> Here is another suggestion for herxing. Adding charcoal to> this could help many also.> http://www.lyme. aquahobby. eu/herx.htmlThis page incorrectly limits the cause of herx to antibiotic use. Thisis only one, and not even the biggest, cause.As for the suggestions - drinking lots of water is one of theoldest/most common suggestion given for assisting the body in detoxing,as are hot baths and fresh lemon water...Adding CLAY/charcoal slurries (not sure why you ignore the clay part)would help pretty much *everyone* who adds them to their program, andwill minimize the herx symptoms (but not the benefits) in virtually allcases, and totally *eliminate* them in many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 How long we need to wait after taking a mms1/mms2 dose before we take the charcol slurry? Wouldn't the slurry absorb toxins as well as the mms? On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 3:06 pm, Judi Wallace wrote: > Tans, > > with apologies if you've already posted this info, would you please > post your " recipe " for your slurry, and sources for your ingredients. > many thanks...going through some major herx..would love to alleviate > the nasties. > > judi > > -------------------- > > From: Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@...> > > Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 5:13:00 PM > Subject: Re: [ ] Re: MMS 2 > > On 2010-02-10 9:03 AM, healinghope wrote: > >> Tans Do you really beleive someone with lymes enjoys the herx or >> " detox " , > > Nope... and since I didn't *say* that, I fail to see why you would ask > such a question as if I did. > >> strange how you phrase things sometimes. > > Strange how some people (some[times] intentionally, some[times] not) > mis-read things sometimes... > >> Herx is unpleasant but necessary. > > Often unpleasant, certainly - necessary? Maybe sometimes, but as I > said, > there are a lot of things you can do to minimize, and in many cases, > even *eliminate* it, the biggest being clay/charcoal slurries. > >> Here is another suggestion for herxing. Adding charcoal to >> this could help many also. >> http://www.lyme. aquahobby. eu/herx.html > > This page incorrectly limits the cause of herx to antibiotic use. This > is only one, and not even the biggest, cause. > > As for the suggestions - drinking lots of water is one of the > oldest/most common suggestion given for assisting the body in detoxing, > as are hot baths and fresh lemon water... > > Adding CLAY/charcoal slurries (not sure why you ignore the clay part) > would help pretty much *everyone* who adds them to their program, and > will minimize the herx symptoms (but not the benefits) in virtually all > cases, and totally *eliminate* them in many. > > Android Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 On 2010-02-10 6:27 PM, Android wrote: > How long we need to wait after taking a mms1/mms2 dose before we take > the charcol slurry? Wouldn't the slurry absorb toxins as well as the > mms? I'm sure it would ab/adsorb some, but not all. I'd just take them 'in between', to minimize the loss. The good news is all of these ingredients are pretty cheap, so even if some is 'wasted', it doesn't really matter in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Hi healinghope and everyone! Thanks for sharing your story. Did you take or were you concerned about probiotics? Thanks again!!! Muysana Jeff keep in mind I was VERY sick with lyme disease and doing the old protocol. Fact is it has worked for me, but getting here was hell sometimes. Fevers chills diarrhea and even nausea. But now I work a full day and feel better than I have for years. The herx from lyme is comparable to syphilis healinghope, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Muysana I took probotics sorry forgot that one also took psyllium husk. Still using both along with supplements and MMS1 maintenance essiac tea, and spring tonic. http://www.healthcastle.com/psyllium-cholesterol.shtml http://www.ehow.co.uk/way_5657368_sulfur-molasses-home-remedy.html http://www.essiacinfo.org/ > > > Hi healinghope and everyone! > > Thanks for sharing your story. Did you take or were you concerned about probiotics? > > Thanks again!!! > > Muysana > > > Jeff keep in mind I was VERY sick with lyme disease and doing the old > protocol. Fact is it has worked for me, but getting here was hell > sometimes. Fevers chills diarrhea and even nausea. But now I work a > full day and feel better than I have for years. The herx from lyme is > comparable to syphilis > > healinghope, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 Thanks! I was concerned that the MMS 1 or 2 would kill the good bacteria. Muysana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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