Guest guest Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 This is where I think Balance with MMS is important. And continuing Vit C and antioxidants are very important. It is part of the balance, with balance there has to be timing. With the new protocol that may not be as important, or perhaps harder. My maintenance dose now is taken in the evening and supplements green tea ect during the day. I did the old protocol making it to 15 drops 3 times a day. Here is some writings explaining my reasoning. http://www.rexresearch.com/humble/humble.htm Antioxidant deficiency is common with chronic diseases and advancing age. High intake or prolonged use of MMS will make this situation worse. Therefore it is important to increase antioxidant intake when using MMS. However, oxidants and antioxidants should be separated during the day or they may neutralize each other. For instance you may be using MMS before breakfast and at bedtime and antioxidants from mid-morning to the evening meal. This does not only apply to antioxidants in supplement form, such as vitamin C and E, B-complex, coenzyme Q10 or grapeseed extract, but also to food high in antioxidants, such as purple berries and juices, fresh fruit, polyunsaturated oils, turmeric, black or green tea, cocoa and others. Because chlorine dioxide reacts especially well with vitamin C, it is advisable to take 1 gram or more when on a high dose of MMS for more than a few days to protect oxidation-sensitive structures, such as heart, brain and eyes. > > HI > > I am wondering if I can drink green tea in the morning right after having the MMS in water...I found a blog that mentions that green tea is an antioxidant and MMS is an oxidant so they cancel eachother out...makes sense on paper, but not everything is as it appears !! > > thanks > Ali > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Beautifully explained by HealingHope. MMS is a solo performer. Better avoid anything with MMS until it is proved beyond any doubt that it can co-exist with MMS without getting itself damaged by MMS. In my perception,MMS tries to attack on preferential basis, first most highly oxidizable substances like bacterias and most pathogens, then lesser oxidizable matter like anaerobic cells of our infected body, decease cells etc., then much lesser oxidizable matter like some selective minerals,iron etc. and finally as a last preference, strip out any oxidizable nutrients in our blood. So, if there is sufficient pathogens or significant anaerobic cells in the vicinity of MMS, it is unlikely that it may do any significant damage to any minerals,anti-oxidants, minerals etc.including Green Tea.We need to prove this. I am taking spirulina (which do contain anti-oxidants as well)with MMS1 (taken at the same time)and in spite of this,I am getting good decisive improvements in my health with this! I may be wrong. This is just a food for thought.We need to do more research,precise trials to prove or disprove this statement. regards KGR > > > > HI > > > > I am wondering if I can drink green tea in the morning right after having the MMS in water...I found a blog that mentions that green tea is an antioxidant and MMS is an oxidant so they cancel eachother out...makes sense on paper, but not everything is as it appears !! > > > > thanks > > Ali > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Interesting info check following link: http://www.info-archive.com/oxy%20vito.htm In the above link, You will find the statement " As with any oxidative modality Stabilized Oxygen should be used along with a quality antioxidant such as Vitamin E, Vitamin A, Selenium or S.O.D These supplements are commonly available at Health Food Stores " Some one has patented Stabilized Oxygen for treatment of HIV Check the following link: http://www.natmedtalk.com/mms-miracle-mineral-supplement/3150-mms-killed-my-herp\ es-3.html regards KGR > > > I am wondering if I can drink green tea in the morning right after having the MMS in water...I found a blog that mentions that green tea is an antioxidant and MMS is an oxidant so they cancel eachother out...makes sense on paper, but not everything is as it appears !! > > > > > > thanks > > > Ali > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Another blog posting talk about antioxidants. http://houseofbugs.com/weblog/?id=4569 KGR --------------------------------------- > > > Interesting info check following link: > > http://www.info-archive.com/oxy%20vito.htm > > In the above link, You will find the statement " As with any oxidative modality Stabilized Oxygen should be used along with a quality antioxidant such as Vitamin E, Vitamin A, Selenium or S.O.D These supplements are commonly available at Health Food Stores " > > > > Some one has patented Stabilized Oxygen for treatment of HIV > Check the following link: > > http://www.natmedtalk.com/mms-miracle-mineral-supplement/3150-mms-killed-my-herp\ es-3.html > > regards > KGR > > > > > > > > > > > I am wondering if I can drink green tea in the morning right after having the MMS in water...I found a blog that mentions that green tea is an antioxidant and MMS is an oxidant so they cancel eachother out...makes sense on paper, but not everything is as it appears !! > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > Ali > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 On 2010-01-27 8:35 AM, KGR wrote: > In the above link, You will find the statement " As with any oxidative > modality Stabilized Oxygen should be used along with a quality > antioxidant such as Vitamin E, Vitamin A, Selenium or S.O.D These > supplements are commonly available at Health Food Stores " Badly worded... the anti-oxidants need to be taken at very different times, spaced out by many hours from the MMS1 doses. > Some one has patented Stabilized Oxygen for treatment of HIV Check > the following link: No one should support anyone patenting this kind of stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Thankyou to all who provided help and input. I had really just wanted to know if the green tea would neutralize the mms. I like to have the tea first thing in the morning cause it warms up my tummy..I am from the cold country of Canada....lol I will adjust my mms schedule instead... Thank again Alison > > In the above link, You will find the statement " As with any oxidative > > modality Stabilized Oxygen should be used along with a quality > > antioxidant such as Vitamin E, Vitamin A, Selenium or S.O.D These > > supplements are commonly available at Health Food Stores " > > Badly worded... the anti-oxidants need to be taken at very different > times, spaced out by many hours from the MMS1 doses. > > > Some one has patented Stabilized Oxygen for treatment of HIV Check > > the following link: > > No one should support anyone patenting this kind of stuff. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Does anybody know what is the MMS-lite they mentioned in the blogs? Thanks. > > In the above link, You will find the statement " As with any oxidative > > modality Stabilized Oxygen should be used along with a quality > > antioxidant such as Vitamin E, Vitamin A, Selenium or S.O.D These > > supplements are commonly available at Health Food Stores " > > Badly worded... the anti-oxidants need to be taken at very different > times, spaced out by many hours from the MMS1 doses. > > > Some one has patented Stabilized Oxygen for treatment of HIV Check > > the following link: > > No one should support anyone patenting this kind of stuff. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Here is the copied version of one of the posting in the MMS-Lite blog: Dr. Hesselink indicates that the following foods should not be present in the stomach within 4 hours before acidified mms consumption if one is to expect much in terms of results: (snip)Incompatible Foods: all ascorbates all proteins, for example: wheat germ, nuts, peas, beans fish, poultry, meat, milk, eggs most antioxidants, for example: N-acetyl-L-cysteine, alpha-lipoic acid, SAME, glutathione, quercetin, BHT, BHA, tocopherol most B-complex vitamins, for example: thiamine, riboflavin, niacin, pantothenic acid, folic acid, para-aminobenzoic acid, cyanocobalamin, biotin, carnosine most fruit especially berries, apples, oranges, grapes, cherries, figs most herbs, for example: chocolate, green tea, coffee, turmeric, silymarin, licorice, ginkgo, olive, cinnamon Allium species: onion, leek, shallot, garlic, chive Brassica species: cabbage, kale, broccoli, cauliflower, turnip, mustard, wasabi Asparagus species Solanum tuberosum = white potato(/snip) These foods will quench acidified chlorine dioxide effects in the body. It takes 4 hours before a person should consume acidified mms after eating any of these foods or vitamins. If a person has been eating any of these foods within 4 hours of taking acidified mms, then one should be careful once the interfering substance is removed because the effects of acidified mms on the body without the quenching effect of the food substance can be changed dramatically. Once the food substance is not quenching the acidified mms, the herxheimer effects may be maximized even though before, they were minimized by the quenching food substance. Thanks KGR > > Thankyou to all who provided help and input. I had really just wanted to know if the green tea would neutralize the mms. I like to have the tea first thing in the morning cause it warms up my tummy..I am from the cold country of Canada....lol > > I will adjust my mms schedule instead... > > Thank again > Alison > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 This is the current writing from Humble that I am aware of on food and nutrients with MMS. OPIC TWO. What Foods in the Stomach Harm MMS Benefits? People often inquire about the foods they should avoid when taking MMS. Jim's reply in general was " don't worry about it. " If one food or another diminishes the MMS benefit by 5% or 20%, who cares? The next dose will make up for it. And now that we recommend small doses to be taken often, the food issue matters even less. http://mmsnews.org/NEWS004.htm " BUT IF YOU MUST KNOW, undigested meat would be the primary culprit. Remember, ClO2 is attracted to whatever has electrons available to be ripped away. Normal living cells are nicely encapsulated and they present no attraction to ClO2. But dead cooked meat is attractive to ClO2 ions and gas. And since you asked, junk foods diminish MMS NOT AT ALL. Potato chips, donuts, peanuts, and rich icings on double rich chocolate fudge cake won't harm the effectiveness of MMS. (Sorry, but truth-seekers among us would not allow this information to be withheld, however damaging it might be on the nutritional side " .) " The basis for the lower dosage suggestions are in Jim's most important web page here: http://JimHumble.biz/biz-fundamentals.htm If everyone understood Jim's clear teaching on this page, you would be able to design and test your own dosage strategies without dependence on others. Please read Jim's clearest and latest writing at his web site " . > > > > Thankyou to all who provided help and input. I had really just wanted to know if the green tea would neutralize the mms. I like to have the tea first thing in the morning cause it warms up my tummy..I am from the cold country of Canada....lol > > > > I will adjust my mms schedule instead... > > > > Thank again > > Alison > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Thank you HealingHope, I appreciate and agree with you with most of your perceptions. I too agree with you, that activity of Chlorine di Oxide is nothing to do with junk food or healthy food, It simply hunts for oxidizable matter whether junk or otherwise. My mentioning of avoiding junk food is from general health point of view, to enable our body to restore health faster. I just give links to various data just to expose the various ideas prevailing in the net, to bring to the awareness our group members, they are not necessarily my opinions. Thanks and regards KGR --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@...> wrote: > > This is the current writing from Humble that I am aware of on food and nutrients with MMS. > > OPIC TWO. > What Foods in the Stomach Harm MMS Benefits? People often inquire about the foods they should avoid when taking MMS. Jim's reply in general was " don't worry about it. " If one food or another diminishes the MMS benefit by 5% or 20%, who cares? The next dose will make up for it. And now that we recommend small doses to be taken often, the food issue matters even less. > http://mmsnews.org/NEWS004.htm > > " BUT IF YOU MUST KNOW, undigested meat would be the primary culprit. Remember, ClO2 is attracted to whatever has electrons available to be ripped away. Normal living cells are nicely encapsulated and they present no attraction to ClO2. But dead cooked meat is attractive to ClO2 ions and gas. And since you asked, junk foods diminish MMS NOT AT ALL. Potato chips, donuts, peanuts, and rich icings on double rich chocolate fudge cake won't harm the effectiveness of MMS. (Sorry, but truth-seekers among us would not allow this information to be withheld, however damaging it might be on the nutritional side " .) > > " The basis for the lower dosage suggestions are in Jim's most important web page here: http://JimHumble.biz/biz-fundamentals.htm If everyone understood Jim's clear teaching on this page, you would be able to design and test your own dosage strategies without dependence on others. Please read Jim's clearest and latest writing at his web site " . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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