Re: Clifford E Carnicom Study Shows MMS Make Morgellons Grow

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Tom Thank you for your voice. And I will celebrate my health. I only hope to

share the celebration with others suffering the same. I have posted the new page

published yesterday. Hurried for work will write more later. Thanks Again

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> Hello Healinghope,

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> Before I comment on Clifford Carnicorn's " discovery, " let's take a moment and

review your accomplishments...

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> I believe it was a little over a year and a half ago that you were a depressed

and low functioning person overcome with various symptoms and illnesses. You

have fought your way back to being a fully functioning person with minimal

symptoms. I don't know if you still suffer from any depression, but you don't

write like a depressed person... in my opinion...

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> One of the greatest miracles in life is birth. Right next to that is good

health. When someone moves from a place of illness to return to health, that is

a major accomplishment.

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> There are many roads available for the journey to health. Some involve modern

science, others involve alternate ideas, and others yet involve spiritual

methods. Most people try a variety of roads, but they still keep the

destination goal in mind. The goal is to enjoy and live your life in health.

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> Healinghope, you have fought your way from a place of illness to a place of

health. Your path has led you down an alternate route that others may not fully

understand. You may not even understand it yourself. As a matter of fact, in

retrospect, and under further illumination from further awareness, you may find

yourself acknowledging, but not recommending, your path when encountering

" fellow travelers. " On the other hand, you may have found " THE WAY, " and

everyone who follows your path will experience similar results.

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> Embrace your health and don't let anyone try to rob you of it. At the same

time, you need to keep your mind open to new developments.

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> Just in case you didn't hear me...

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> EMBRACE YOUR HEALTH!!!

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> Clifford Carnicorn's " discovery " is the observation that some bacteria

flourish in the presence of sodium chlorite and calcium hypochlorite and ferrous

iron. Unfortunately, no details are presented.

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> This is actually old news and has been studied before. Here is a reference

involving waste water treatment.

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> http://ijs.sgmjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/52/6/2183

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> Chlorine dioxide and chlorine (HClO) quickly break down to chlorite and

chlorate in the presence of organic material. Under certain conditions chlorite

and chlorate are further broken down and eaten by some bacteria and the bacteria

thrive on them.

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> Chlorine dioxide and chlorous acid kill pathogens by having a concentration in

contact with the pathogen for a period of time. The disinfection by products

include chlorite and chlorate. As chlorate is further broken down chloride is

formed. The ratio is about 70-30. A chlorine dioxide solution will nearly

immediately, upon contact with organic material, breakdown to 70% chlorite and

30% chlorate. Chlorite is quickly absorbed into the blood stream and within a

few hours can be found in the organs of the body. In rats, the half life of

chlorite is about 44 hours.

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> This is why both chlorite and chlorine dioxide concentrations are regulated in

water treatment to 0.8 PPM chlorine dioxide residual and 1.0 PPM chlorite

residual.

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> On the other side of the coin, I had the opportunity to do some work with a

researcher who had discovered a new parasite. He had subjected the parasite to

hydrogen peroxide and bleach (HClO) solutions only to discover that they did not

kill the parasite. Initial tests with chlorous acid also failed to kill the

parasite, but we started at a very dilute concentration (about 0.5 PPM available

chlorine dioxide). As we increased the strength of the solution, we finally were

able to kill the parasite.

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> The point is that had he published his " discovery " initially, he could have

stated that his parasite was resistant to hydrogen peroxide, bleach (HClO), and

chlorine dioxide, based upon his initial observations. It wasn't until he

understood how chlorine dioxide/chlorous acid solutions work did he finally end

up with a concentration that was effective in killing the parasite.

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> Just for reference, the solution used to kill this new parasite was made from

a 2.5% sodium chlorite solution.

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> It will be interesting to see where Clifford Carnicorn goes with his initial

" discovery, " however, I am not convinced that he has a full understanding of

chlorine dioxide technology.

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> Tom

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> --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@>

wrote:

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> > Please Siverfox and group study this and tell me what makes no sense and

what makes sense. Need some MMS feedback. MMS saved me from lyme and symptoms of

morgellons, kinda take this personal. I consider myself in remission or

hopefully healed. The author Clifford E Carnicom also believes that morgellons

is from chemtrails, which I disagree, my beleive is from a insect vector and

lymes is related perhaps co-infection. Mine was parasitic and fungal I beleive.

Help me out here folks read this and the brilliant minds find truth or fault

with this study. Thanks

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Hi Tom!I REALLY enjoyed your encouraging and informative post, also!!! I am keeping a copy of 's post and this one from you because they are VERY encouraging!!! Keep up the good work!!!(And yes!!! Excessive exclamation points are intentional!!! )Muysana>> Hello Healinghope,> > Before I comment on Clifford Carnicorn's "discovery," let's take a moment and review your accomplishments...> > EMBRACE YOUR HEALTH!!!> > Clifford Carnicorn's "discovery" is the observation that some bacteria flourish in the presence of sodium chlorite and calcium hypochlorite and ferrous iron. Unfortunately, no details are presented....> > This is actually old news and has been studied before. Here is a reference involving waste water treatment.> > http://ijs.sgmjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/52/6/2183> > The point is that had he published his "discovery" initially, he could have stated that his parasite was resistant to hydrogen peroxide, bleach (HClO), and chlorine dioxide, based upon his initial observations. It wasn't until he understood how chlorine dioxide/chlorous acid solutions work did he finally end up with a concentration that was effective in killing the parasite.> > Just for reference, the solution used to kill this new parasite was made from a 2.5% sodium chlorite solution.> > It will be interesting to see where Clifford Carnicorn goes with his initial "discovery," however, I am not convinced that he has a full understanding of chlorine dioxide technology. > > Tom