Guest guest Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Pulsing sounds so appealing just to have a break but I have found in my own experience if I go any longer than 4 - 6 hours, my symptoms begin creeping back in. First thing in the morning I still wake up feeling like full-blown Lyme but once I get that initial dose for the day down, the symptoms lessen and completely disappear before the day is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Hello , I think it is a great idea. Dr. Hesselink refers to 1 - 3 treatments a week. Initially, he only stated what Jim Humble was using. Since his field trials, he seems to have altered his opinion. I don't know why, but I find this interesting. Since chlorite seems to have a half life of almost 2 days, pulsing would give your body a chance to get rid of these disinfection by products. WF-10 was undergoing clinical trials a while back. It was administered via IV and followed a pulsing protocol. I believe the pulsing was to allow the body a period of time to recover. Since the clinical trials were stopped, it is hard to find information on the " why's " of what they were doing. There also are activation protocols that are designed to minimize chlorite production. These are used in industry and have not been evaluated for human consumption. Tom --- In , " catherine " <ce_hansen@...> wrote: > > I read somewhere that pulsing is not a bad idea....every other day for example, and to load up on the antioxidants on those off days. Are people doing this? > > Thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Tom thanks for the info.....I am trying to eliminate/control several pathogens...bartonella and mycoplasma which are bacteria. Bartonella grows every 24-48 hours. Thus I would rather NOT pulse but was thinking of pulsing every other day, 3 drops every hour (with 3 drops citric acid, thanks!) per the AIDS protocol, and then every day load up on Vit C and antioxidants. Dosing 1-3x week will definitely not help me with these pathogens. Thanks! > > > Hello , > > I think it is a great idea. > > Dr. Hesselink refers to 1 - 3 treatments a week. Initially, he only stated what Jim Humble was using. Since his field trials, he seems to have altered his opinion. I don't know why, but I find this interesting. > > Since chlorite seems to have a half life of almost 2 days, pulsing would give your body a chance to get rid of these disinfection by products. > > WF-10 was undergoing clinical trials a while back. It was administered via IV and followed a pulsing protocol. I believe the pulsing was to allow the body a period of time to recover. Since the clinical trials were stopped, it is hard to find information on the " why's " of what they were doing. > > There also are activation protocols that are designed to minimize chlorite production. These are used in industry and have not been evaluated for human consumption. > > Tom > > > > --- In , " catherine " <ce_hansen@> wrote: > > > > I read somewhere that pulsing is not a bad idea....every other day for example, and to load up on the antioxidants on those off days. Are people doing this? > > > > Thanks > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Hello , While there are many unanswered aspects of this, let me argue in favor of pulsing... We know that chlorine dioxide doesn't exist within the body beyond seconds, or perhaps a couple of minutes. It quickly breaks down to chlorite for the most part, chlorate, and some chloride. If chlorite is what is doing the work inside the body, then we can look at that. Taking 3 drops an hour for 16 hours will have you ingesting about 403 PPM available chlorine dioxide concentrate. This will yield about 282 PPM chlorite. At the end of day 1 you have about 282 PPM chlorite in your body. If you skip day 2 and don't take any additional chlorine dioxide concentrate, at the end of day 2 you will still have about 211 PPM of the chlorite still left in your body. Day 3 going back to your hourly intake will see you with about 423 PPM chlorite in your body. Let's skip day 4. At the end of day 4 you will have about 316 PPM chlorite in your body. Back to your hourly intake for day 5, and you are up to about 493 PPM chlorite. Taking days 6 and 7 off you will end up with about 368 PPM at the end of day 6 and 246 PPM at the end of day 7. Since most bacteria requires concentrations in the 100 - 200 PPM to be killed off, this schedule would have you with an average of 334 PPM, and theoretically could be all that you need to get things under control. Using pulsing like this, at no time are you below 200 PPM, so theoretically, you would not have a problem with the bacteria growing out of control. Unfortunately, no one knows what concentrations are necessary to work inside the body, but as you can see, pulsing doesn't necessarily mean that bacteria isn't being killed off, even on the days when you don't take any doses. Something to think about... Tom > > > > > > Hello , > > > > I think it is a great idea. > > > > Dr. Hesselink refers to 1 - 3 treatments a week. Initially, he only stated what Jim Humble was using. Since his field trials, he seems to have altered his opinion. I don't know why, but I find this interesting. > > > > Since chlorite seems to have a half life of almost 2 days, pulsing would give your body a chance to get rid of these disinfection by products. > > > > WF-10 was undergoing clinical trials a while back. It was administered via IV and followed a pulsing protocol. I believe the pulsing was to allow the body a period of time to recover. Since the clinical trials were stopped, it is hard to find information on the " why's " of what they were doing. > > > > There also are activation protocols that are designed to minimize chlorite production. These are used in industry and have not been evaluated for human consumption. > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > --- In , " catherine " <ce_hansen@> wrote: > > > > > > I read somewhere that pulsing is not a bad idea....every other day for example, and to load up on the antioxidants on those off days. Are people doing this? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Tom great info for us newbies. Are you saying that the chlorite/chloride doing the work actually has a very long half-life? Stays in the body that long? Is it able to maintain its " kill " properties for that long as well? If that is the case and I can get up to 100-200 doing every other day I will certainly do that. The pathogen I am mainly after (well two really) live in the red blood cells and have made their way into the bone marrow so that they are " born " along with new cells. The lifecycle of a red blood cell is about 4 months, thus I want to do 2-3 of those cycles to kill this stuff off. > > > > > > > > I read somewhere that pulsing is not a bad idea....every other day for example, and to load up on the antioxidants on those off days. Are people doing this? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Hello , This has not been studied in humans, but in rats the half life of chlorite is just under 2 days. Chloride is salt, and it doesn't have much in the way of oxidation properties. Chlorite is what quickly forms as chlorine dioxide breaks down, so it is a reasonable guess that this is what is working inside the body to provide oxidation. To get an idea of what is going on with this, you can run a simple test. Mix up a dose of acidified sodium chlorite and add the normal amount of water that you use. You will notice the solution has a yellow color and it will have a chlorine dioxide odor. These are indications that chlorine dioxide is present in the solution. Next get another glass and have it ready. Take a mouthful of your initial solution and swish it in your mouth for 15 - 30 seconds, then spit it out in the other glass. You will find that the yellow color and chlorine dioxide odor are gone. The chlorine dioxide has been changed to chlorite after coming into contact with the organic material in your mouth. Tom --- In , " catherine " <ce_hansen@...> wrote: > > Tom great info for us newbies. > Are you saying that the chlorite/chloride doing the work actually has a very long half-life? Stays in the body that long? Is it able to maintain its " kill " properties for that long as well? > > If that is the case and I can get up to 100-200 doing every other day I will certainly do that. The pathogen I am mainly after (well two really) live in the red blood cells and have made their way into the bone marrow so that they are " born " along with new cells. The lifecycle of a red blood cell is about 4 months, thus I want to do 2-3 of those cycles to kill this stuff off. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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