Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 Hi all, I'm new to this group and to MMS1 & 2. I've had chronic fatigue syndrome for 17 years and also have had electrosensitivity (terrible headaches & ear pain from anything electromagnetic - this computer included) for 7 years. I've learned to live with the pain and manage the fatigue and other symptoms, but recent research suggesting CFS/ME/CFIDS is caused by a retrovirus got me very interested in MMS1 when a friend mentioned recently he was using it as a detox. I've been using it for about 8 days, but the nausea got really bad 2 days ago, so I stopped for a day. I've now gone and purchased what I need for MMS2 and am very interested in ppl's experiences with it. I found this interesting forum http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16261 where if you scroll down " Karl Karl " has some very informative info on how to take MMS2. I thought you might be interested in it. I have joined the group and plan to contact him direct. There doesn't seem to have been much activity on that forum recently. And guys, I relate to the smell of the MMS1 getting to be a problem. Just that chlorine smell now makes me feel nauseous. But I'm determined to be healthy again, and for some reason the info on MMS1 and 2 just makes so much sense and resonates with me. If any of you know of other who have CFS and have treated it successfully with MMS1 or 2 pls let me know. Electrosensitivity is not so talked about on the net - probably cos ppl avoid the computer as I did initially. I just decided I need to live my life and as long as I sleep well and don't overdo the computer/tv/phone usage, I can handle the pain. It'd be soooo nice not to have it tho! Thanks for all your contributions Cheers Louise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 Louise, MMS1 alone helped me with chronic fatigue. I took it for the second time recently for about 5 weeks 3 times daily increasing to 4 - 5 times daily starting with one drop and going up to 7 drops per dosage. I stopped taking it 3 weeks ago and chronic fatigue did not return. Reason for stopping it was a strong stomach reaction, maybe due to my Gastritis problem. But for quite a while when I was still on the lower dosage ( up to 5 drops) I was doing OK. Maybe whenI return to it I will try to take it 8 times daily and reduce the drops to about 3 or 4. For electrosensitivity try BiCOM or Mora treatment. http://www.bicombioresonance.com/index.htm http://www.mora-akademie.org/mora-therapie0.html? & L=1 & L=1 & print=1 & no_cache=1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioresonance_therapy My personal view is to take MMS1 only for a while and see how it works. Then take MMS2 for a while and see how that works. If you still need it then try taking both. But I think it is important to measure the effects of each one separately. Arie From: Louise <itsmylifeproject@...>Subject: [ ] MMS2 Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 2:35 AM Hi all,I'm new to this group and to MMS1 & 2. I've had chronic fatigue syndrome for 17 years and also have had electrosensitivity (terrible headaches & ear pain from anything electromagnetic - this computer included) for 7 years. I've learned to live with the pain and manage the fatigue and other symptoms, but recent research suggesting CFS/ME/CFIDS is caused by a retrovirus got me very interested in MMS1 when a friend mentioned recently he was using it as a detox.I've been using it for about 8 days, but the nausea got really bad 2 days ago, so I stopped for a day. I've now gone and purchased what I need for MMS2 and am very interested in ppl's experiences with it.I found this interesting forum http://projectavalo n.net/forum/ showthread. php?t=16261 where if you scroll down "Karl Karl" has some very informative info on how to take MMS2. I thought you might be interested in it. I have joined the group and plan to contact him direct. There doesn't seem to have been much activity on that forum recently.And guys, I relate to the smell of the MMS1 getting to be a problem. Just that chlorine smell now makes me feel nauseous. But I'm determined to be healthy again, and for some reason the info on MMS1 and 2 just makes so much sense and resonates with me.If any of you know of other who have CFS and have treated it successfully with MMS1 or 2 pls let me know. Electrosensitivity is not so talked about on the net - probably cos ppl avoid the computer as I did initially. I just decided I need to live my life and as long as I sleep well and don't overdo the computer/tv/ phone usage, I can handle the pain. It'd be soooo nice not to have it tho!Thanks for all your contributionsCheersLouise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Effectiveness Sterilox Solution is effective against: Bacteria Acinetobacter baumannii Escherichia coli (0157) Enterococcus species (VRE) Helicobacter pylori Listeria Legionella pneumophila Mycobacterium avium-intracellulare Mycobacterium bovis (TB) Mycobacterium chelonae Mycobacterium terrae Mycobacterium tuberculosis (TB) Mycobacterium xenopi Mycobacterium smegmatis Pseudomonas aeruginosa Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) Samonella cholerasuis Bacterial Endospores Bacillus cereus Bacillus subtilis Clostridium difficile Clostridium sporogenes Viruses Adenovirus type 4 Bacteriophage MS2 Hepatitis A & B (HAV) Herpes virus type 1 HIV-1 Human and Animal Influenza (including H5N1 Avian Influenza and H1N1 Swine Influenza) MS2 virus Human Norovirus (Norwalk) Murine Norovirus Orthopoxvirus Poliovirus type 1 Poliovirus type 2 Fungi Aspergillus niger Candida albicans Trichophyton mentagrophytes http://www.puricore.com/technology_effectiveness.aspx --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@...> wrote: > > Many have not discussed MMS2 or calcium hypochlorite when activated with h20 or water becomes hypochlorus acid. Wanted to share some wonderful research. > http://www.puricore.com/technology_humanbody.aspx > The human body produces a highly effective antimicrobial solution called hypochlorous acid to fight infection. White blood cells release this natural oxidant to fight invading pathogens. The hypochlorous acid produced by the human body's immune system: > > Reacts readily with a variety of microbial sub-cellular compounds > Interferes with their metabolic processes > Kills individual bacterium exposed within milliseconds > This video illustrates the process. > > When an invading pathogen or infection threatens a human cell, the body's immune system responds by destroying the pathogen before it can harm the cell. The invading pathogens are engulfed by white blood cells called neutrophils by the process of phagocytosis. This antimicrobial process is called the Oxidative Burst Pathway. > > The Human Response > > > When a wound breaks human skin, it creates a gateway for harmful pathogens to invade human cells. > Neutrophils, which are a type of white blood cell, live in human blood vessels. > When pathogens invade a human cell, neutrophils travel to the infection site to destroy the invading pathogen. The first step in this process is engulfing the pathogen. > Once the neutrophil has completely surrounded the pathogen, it produces an oxidant, hypochlorous acid. Hypochlorous acid is a biocide, meaning it kills organic material. Once produced by the neutrophil, it kills the bacteria almost instantly. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 What is the active antimicrobial agent in PuriCore's Solutions? The active ingredient in all of our solutions is hypochlorous acid, a well known and well characterized biocidal agent, which is produced by the human body's natural immune system to fight infection. It is completely safe to humans and the environment. What is the difference between PuriCore Solutions and bleach? The main disinfectant ingredient in bleach is hypochlorite, where as PuriCore Solutions are primarily hypochlorous acid. Hypochlorous acid is well established to be substantially more biocidal than hypochlorite bleach, yet is completely safe. Bleach, however, is known to be cytotoxic, can cause severe tissue damage, and is a breathing irritant (sample MSDS). How do PuriCore Solutions kill bacteria? PuriCore hypochlorous acid reacts readily with a variety of microbial sub-cellular compounds, interferes with metabolic processes, and kills individual bacterium exposed within milliseconds. In the human body, white blood cells naturally produce hypochlorous acid as a defense against disease and bacteria in the body. Human cells protect themselves against hypochlorous acid damage using a highly effective group of protective agents and defense mechanisms referred to collectively as the Antioxidant Defense System (ADS). http://www.puricore.com/technology_faqs.aspx --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@...> wrote: > > Effectiveness > > Sterilox Solution is effective against: > > > Bacteria > Acinetobacter baumannii > Escherichia coli (0157) > Enterococcus species (VRE) > Helicobacter pylori > Listeria > Legionella pneumophila > Mycobacterium avium-intracellulare > Mycobacterium bovis (TB) > Mycobacterium chelonae > Mycobacterium terrae > Mycobacterium tuberculosis (TB) > Mycobacterium xenopi > Mycobacterium smegmatis > Pseudomonas aeruginosa > Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) > Samonella cholerasuis > > Bacterial Endospores > Bacillus cereus > Bacillus subtilis > Clostridium difficile > Clostridium sporogenes > > > Viruses > Adenovirus type 4 > Bacteriophage MS2 > Hepatitis A & B (HAV) > Herpes virus type 1 > HIV-1 > Human and Animal Influenza (including H5N1 Avian Influenza and H1N1 Swine Influenza) > MS2 virus > Human Norovirus (Norwalk) > Murine Norovirus > Orthopoxvirus > Poliovirus type 1 > Poliovirus type 2 > > Fungi > Aspergillus niger > Candida albicans > Trichophyton mentagrophytes > > http://www.puricore.com/technology_effectiveness.aspx > > > > --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@> wrote: > > > > Many have not discussed MMS2 or calcium hypochlorite when activated with h20 or water becomes hypochlorus acid. Wanted to share some wonderful research. > > http://www.puricore.com/technology_humanbody.aspx > > The human body produces a highly effective antimicrobial solution called hypochlorous acid to fight infection. White blood cells release this natural oxidant to fight invading pathogens. The hypochlorous acid produced by the human body's immune system: > > > > Reacts readily with a variety of microbial sub-cellular compounds > > Interferes with their metabolic processes > > Kills individual bacterium exposed within milliseconds > > This video illustrates the process. > > > > When an invading pathogen or infection threatens a human cell, the body's immune system responds by destroying the pathogen before it can harm the cell. The invading pathogens are engulfed by white blood cells called neutrophils by the process of phagocytosis. This antimicrobial process is called the Oxidative Burst Pathway. > > > > The Human Response > > > > > > When a wound breaks human skin, it creates a gateway for harmful pathogens to invade human cells. > > Neutrophils, which are a type of white blood cell, live in human blood vessels. > > When pathogens invade a human cell, neutrophils travel to the infection site to destroy the invading pathogen. The first step in this process is engulfing the pathogen. > > Once the neutrophil has completely surrounded the pathogen, it produces an oxidant, hypochlorous acid. Hypochlorous acid is a biocide, meaning it kills organic material. Once produced by the neutrophil, it kills the bacteria almost instantly. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Human cells protect themselves against hypochlorous acid damage using a highly effective group of protective agents and defense mechanisms referred to collectively as the Antioxidant Defense System (ADS). http://www.puricore.com/technology_faqs.aspx > > > Hello Healinghope, > > Here is a copy of the actual testing done with the human norovirus on ceramic tiles and stainless steel. > > http://aem.asm.org/cgi/reprint/AEM.02839-06v1.pdf > > Tom > > > --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@> wrote: > > > > Effectiveness > > > > Sterilox Solution is effective against: > > > > > > Bacteria > > Acinetobacter baumannii > > Escherichia coli (0157) > > Enterococcus species (VRE) > > Helicobacter pylori > > Listeria > > Legionella pneumophila > > Mycobacterium avium-intracellulare > > Mycobacterium bovis (TB) > > Mycobacterium chelonae > > Mycobacterium terrae > > Mycobacterium tuberculosis (TB) > > Mycobacterium xenopi > > Mycobacterium smegmatis > > Pseudomonas aeruginosa > > Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) > > Samonella cholerasuis > > > > Bacterial Endospores > > Bacillus cereus > > Bacillus subtilis > > Clostridium difficile > > Clostridium sporogenes > > > > > > Viruses > > Adenovirus type 4 > > Bacteriophage MS2 > > Hepatitis A & B (HAV) > > Herpes virus type 1 > > HIV-1 > > Human and Animal Influenza (including H5N1 Avian Influenza and H1N1 Swine Influenza) > > MS2 virus > > Human Norovirus (Norwalk) > > Murine Norovirus > > Orthopoxvirus > > Poliovirus type 1 > > Poliovirus type 2 > > > > Fungi > > Aspergillus niger > > Candida albicans > > Trichophyton mentagrophytes > > > > http://www.puricore.com/technology_effectiveness.aspx > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Hello Healinghope, Yes, chlorination is very interesting. By controlling the PH of their product, Puricore can produce hypochlorous acid. However, their products are designed for external use. Reviewing the chlorine/PH chart we see that while at a PH of 7 the primary ingredient is hypochlorous acid, there is about 20% hypochlorite. www.puricore.com/technology_works.aspx Also note that below a PH of around 5.5, the concentration of chlorine gas increases. In external applications it is fairly easy to control PH, but what is the PH of the different areas of the body? It is a good thing that hypochlorous acid isn't simply floating around in the body and that the white blood cells totally engluf the pathogens, removing them from the blood stream, before they use their hypochlorous acid. Here are the details on how Sterilox is supposed to be used, and how the testing was done to determine that it was safe for those applications. www.accessdata.fda.gov/cdrh_docs/pdf6/K063159.pdf You may also want to pay attention to the concentrations used. Tom --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@...> wrote: > > What is the active antimicrobial agent in PuriCore's Solutions? > The active ingredient in all of our solutions is hypochlorous acid, a well known and well characterized biocidal agent, which is produced by the human body's natural immune system to fight infection. It is completely safe to humans and the environment. > > What is the difference between PuriCore Solutions and bleach? > The main disinfectant ingredient in bleach is hypochlorite, where as PuriCore Solutions are primarily hypochlorous acid. Hypochlorous acid is well established to be substantially more biocidal than hypochlorite bleach, yet is completely safe. Bleach, however, is known to be cytotoxic, can cause severe tissue damage, and is a breathing irritant (sample MSDS). > > How do PuriCore Solutions kill bacteria? > PuriCore hypochlorous acid reacts readily with a variety of microbial sub-cellular compounds, interferes with metabolic processes, and kills individual bacterium exposed within milliseconds. In the human body, white blood cells naturally produce hypochlorous acid as a defense against disease and bacteria in the body. Human cells protect themselves against hypochlorous acid damage using a highly effective group of protective agents and defense mechanisms referred to collectively as the Antioxidant Defense System (ADS). > http://www.puricore.com/technology_faqs.aspx > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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