RE: Re: Shingles and MMS

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I saved some messages from other support groups about dealing with shingles a

while back and I'm forwarding some of that information to you below:

#1: " Tagamet, the heartburn medicine contains Cimetidine (200mg take 4 or 5)

which inhibits the damage during an outbreak and prevents the long term damage.

The ER treats it with steroids and it is possible that an on-duty intern may not

know this so you must remember and tell them. Arrest the infection before the

nerve damage occurs. The permanent damage is called post herpetic neuralgia, and

yes, you don't want to get it. Keep a box of Tagamet or any discount brand of

heartburn medicine that contains Cimetidine on hand for emergencies. "

#2 " There is a TCM remedy that is magnificently strong against Herpes

Zoster(Shingles). It is called " Long Dan Xie Gan Wan " . I keep a bottle of this

on hand because it is extremely effective on a wide range of things. It's also a

fast acting candida killer for after you take antibiotics. It should not be

used over the long term, and only long enough to kill the pathogen in question.

It's also very cheap. =)

http://www.herbschina.com/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info & cPath=10 & products\

_id=105

<https://mail.munsch.com/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.herbschina.com/zen\

/index.php?main_page=product_info%26cPath=10%26products_id=105> "

#3 [i think this next one came from something called BottomLineSecrets.com, but

I'm not sure}

" Natural Rx for Shingles

" Approximately one million -- mostly older -- Americans get shingles (herpes

zoster) each year as the varicella-zoster virus reactivates from a childhood

chickenpox (variella) infection. The virus typically travels along one nerve to

one part of the body to the skin's surface where it eventually erupts into

another rash with blisters. Before that happens, though, other symptoms may

appear, including tingling, itching and sometimes pain or a burning sensation

that can be so intense it has been confused with that of kidney stones,

appendicitis or even a heart attack, depending on the location of the affected

nerve. Once the rash does appear, typically on one side of the torso or face, it

brings fresh misery with more pain and blisters. Patients are warned not to

scratch because that might increase the potential for a secondary bacterial

infection.

" In most people, shingles resolves itself by five or six very uncomfortable

weeks... although, for a few patients, a painful and debilitating complication

called postherpetic neuralgia (PHN) can linger for many more months and even

years. In fact, the recent development of a vaccine for shingles (see Daily

Health News, October 5, 2006

<https://mail.munsch.com/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://link.dhn.bottomlinesec\

rets.com/h/9WUT/LFV2/LE/D8NFC> ) was partly to shield people from the

possibility of PHN. While the vaccination is now a reality and is available to

people ages 60 and over, I wondered about natural treatments that might both

ease the discomfort of shingles and possibly reduce the amount of time it

normally takes to run its course, as well as develop PHN. To find out, I called

naturopathic physician Meletis, ND, executive director of education for

the Institute for Healthy Aging. Dr. Meletis often treats patients with

shingles.

" NATURAL RX FOR SHINGLES

" Dr. Meletis tells me that his first recommendation for shingles patients is to

take vitamin B-12. The reason, most importantly, is that B-12 has been shown to

help prevent PHN. He says that it also helps bolster energy levels and eases the

discomfort of the outbreak. Dr. Meletis often prescribes 1 mg of B-12 in the

form of methylcobalamin twice a day, preferably under the tongue (sublingually).

Continue this for the duration of the outbreak and for two to three months after

the resolution of the rash and other symptoms. Another useful vitamin for

combating shingles is vitamin C. A potent antioxidant, vitamin C bolsters the

immune system and helps patients cope with the stress of the disease. Some

people find that vitamin C helps dry blisters as well and reduces pain to some

degree and it may also hinder development of PHN. The dosage for many of Dr.

Meletis' patients is 1,000 mg two to three times a day with meals. Vitamin C can

cause diarrhea, in which case patients are directed to ease up slightly on

dosage until they find the maximum level that is tolerated. If nerve pain does

remain after the lesions have resolved, lipoic acid at a dose of 300 mg two to

three times a day can be helpful.

" One amino acid plays a particularly interesting role in shingles. L-lysine has

been shown to be helpful in combating viruses, including another type of herpes

virus called herpes simplex-1 that typically causes so-called fever blisters on

the lips and herpes-simplex 2, which typically causes outbreaks of lesions on

the genitalia. Use of L-lysine, however, must be prescribed and monitored

carefully by a trained professional. L-lysine is contraindicated in pregnant

women and those with elevated cholesterol or triglyceride levels.

" TOPICAL RELIEF

" Of course it is important to have topical balms and creams to soothe the

itching and pain of the rash. There are several available that Dr. Meletis has

found to be helpful. Lysine cream is one (but do not put on open sores) and

lemon balm is another. After the sores heal, a variety of capsaicin-containing

creams on the market may provide pain relief. Capsaicin, the substance that adds

heat to hot peppers, is said to inhibit nerve cells from sending pain messages

to the brain. Capsaicin creams come in a variety of strengths. Whichever one you

select, start small by using just a dab and apply four times a day. It will

sting when you first put it on, but don't let that fool you. Stick with it since

it will help. After applying, wash hands with soap and water to avoid irritation

on other parts of your skin.

" Finally, Dr. Meletis reminds all shingles patients that your body needs time to

restore itself. You may not feel inclined to do much else as you battle

shingles, so use the time to take it easy and get lots of rest. "

Good luck.

Sally A. Schreiber

________________________________

From: on behalf of Sunwaterclear -

Sunny

Sent: Wed 3/3/2010 11:38 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Shingles and MMS

Thank you.. had one bath last night and am about to take another... am taking 10

drops orally daily, which is as much as I can handle..

will keep posted on what occurs. Shingles is somewhat worse today, but not

intolerable.. just tender and itching and uncomfortable to lie on.. but I'm glad

I found out what it was and that it affects lymph nodules. I'd been

experiencing a cold sore during the course, and also some pain in the area of

the lymph. Being a 58 yr old woman I started feeling for lumps, but noticed they

were similar on both sides.. the pain is now explained by lymph node

affectation. Also interestingly the area affected ran from the mid belly to

the kidney area.. which led me to suspect kidney infection. But as no other

symptons..w as again worried about cancer.. not too worried.. as that makes it

worse..

Cold sores now explained... as part of the herpes shingles thing...

Appreciate your help and fellowship..

sunny x

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From: healinghope <mfrreman@...>

Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 8:15:58 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Shingles and MMS

Bathe in MMS1 for the shingles.

http://mms4life. wordpress. com/mms-protocol activation/ mms-method-

for-bathsoak/

<http://mms4life.wordpress.com/mms-protocolactivation/mms-method-for-bathsoak/>

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Hey Sally, thank you so much.. I just got round to reading this.. there are so many mails in my inbox... i really appreciate you putting all this info together.. I've been applying MMS on the blisters.. with DMSO as suggested by someone. I can't see a doctor, have no healthcare, no money.. but the idea of taking B12 and the low cost remedy you recommened is inspiring.

much love and thanks again

sunnyx

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From: "Schreiber, Sally" <sschreiber@...> Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 2:40:08 PMSubject: RE: [ ] Re: Shingles and MMS

I saved some messages from other support groups about dealing with shingles a while back and I'm forwarding some of that information to you below:#1: "Tagamet, the heartburn medicine contains Cimetidine (200mg take 4 or 5) which inhibits the damage during an outbreak and prevents the long term damage. The ER treats it with steroids and it is possible that an on-duty intern may not know this so you must remember and tell them. Arrest the infection before the nerve damage occurs. The permanent damage is called post herpetic neuralgia, and yes, you don't want to get it. Keep a box of Tagamet or any discount brand of heartburn medicine that contains Cimetidine on hand for emergencies. "#2 "There is a TCM remedy that is magnificently strong against Herpes Zoster(Shingles) . It is called "Long Dan Xie Gan Wan". I keep a bottle of this on hand because it is extremely effective on a wide range of things. It's also a fast acting candida killer

for after you take antibiotics. It should not be used over the long term, and only long enough to kill the pathogen in question. It's also very cheap. =)http://www.herbschi na.com/zen/ index.php? main_page= product_info & cPath=10 & products_ id=105 <https://mail. munsch.com/ exchweb/bin/ redir.asp? URL=http: //www.herbschina .com/zen/ index.php? main_page= product_info% 26cPath=10% 26products_ id=105> "#3 [i think this next one came from something called BottomLineSecrets. com, but I'm not sure} "Natural Rx for Shingles"Approximately one million -- mostly older -- Americans get shingles (herpes

zoster) each year as the varicella-zoster virus reactivates from a childhood chickenpox (variella) infection. The virus typically travels along one nerve to one part of the body to the skin's surface where it eventually erupts into another rash with blisters. Before that happens, though, other symptoms may appear, including tingling, itching and sometimes pain or a burning sensation that can be so intense it has been confused with that of kidney stones, appendicitis or even a heart attack, depending on the location of the affected nerve. Once the rash does appear, typically on one side of the torso or face, it brings fresh misery with more pain and blisters. Patients are warned not to scratch because that might increase the potential for a secondary bacterial infection."In most people, shingles resolves itself by five or six very uncomfortable weeks... although, for a few patients, a painful and debilitating complication called postherpetic

neuralgia (PHN) can linger for many more months and even years. In fact, the recent development of a vaccine for shingles (see Daily Health News, October 5, 2006 <https://mail. munsch.com/ exchweb/bin/ redir.asp? URL=http: //link.dhn. bottomlinesecret s.com/h/9WUT/ LFV2/LE/D8NFC> ) was partly to shield people from the possibility of PHN. While the vaccination is now a reality and is available to people ages 60 and over, I wondered about natural treatments that might both ease the discomfort of shingles and possibly reduce the amount of time it normally takes to run its course, as well as develop PHN. To find out, I called naturopathic physician Meletis, ND, executive director of education for the Institute for Healthy Aging. Dr. Meletis often treats patients with shingles. "NATURAL RX

FOR SHINGLES"Dr. Meletis tells me that his first recommendation for shingles patients is to take vitamin B-12. The reason, most importantly, is that B-12 has been shown to help prevent PHN. He says that it also helps bolster energy levels and eases the discomfort of the outbreak. Dr. Meletis often prescribes 1 mg of B-12 in the form of methylcobalamin twice a day, preferably under the tongue (sublingually) . Continue this for the duration of the outbreak and for two to three months after the resolution of the rash and other symptoms. Another useful vitamin for combating shingles is vitamin C. A potent antioxidant, vitamin C bolsters the immune system and helps patients cope with the stress of the disease. Some people find that vitamin C helps dry blisters as well and reduces pain to some degree and it may also hinder development of PHN. The dosage for many of Dr. Meletis' patients is 1,000 mg two to three times a day with meals. Vitamin C can

cause diarrhea, in which case patients are directed to ease up slightly on dosage until they find the maximum level that is tolerated. If nerve pain does remain after the lesions have resolved, lipoic acid at a dose of 300 mg two to three times a day can be helpful."One amino acid plays a particularly interesting role in shingles. L-lysine has been shown to be helpful in combating viruses, including another type of herpes virus called herpes simplex-1 that typically causes so-called fever blisters on the lips and herpes-simplex 2, which typically causes outbreaks of lesions on the genitalia. Use of L-lysine, however, must be prescribed and monitored carefully by a trained professional. L-lysine is contraindicated in pregnant women and those with elevated cholesterol or triglyceride levels."TOPICAL RELIEF "Of course it is important to have topical balms and creams to soothe the itching and pain of the rash. There are several

available that Dr. Meletis has found to be helpful. Lysine cream is one (but do not put on open sores) and lemon balm is another. After the sores heal, a variety of capsaicin-containin g creams on the market may provide pain relief. Capsaicin, the substance that adds heat to hot peppers, is said to inhibit nerve cells from sending pain messages to the brain. Capsaicin creams come in a variety of strengths. Whichever one you select, start small by using just a dab and apply four times a day. It will sting when you first put it on, but don't let that fool you. Stick with it since it will help. After applying, wash hands with soap and water to avoid irritation on other parts of your skin. "Finally, Dr. Meletis reminds all shingles patients that your body needs time to restore itself. You may not feel inclined to do much else as you battle shingles, so use the time to take it easy and get lots of rest."Good luck.Sally A.

Schreiber____________ _________ _________ __From: miracle_mineral_ supplement on behalf of Sunwaterclear - SunnySent: Wed 3/3/2010 11:38 AMmiracle_mineral_ supplementSubject: Re: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] Re: Shingles and MMSThank you.. had one bath last night and am about to take another... am taking 10 drops orally daily, which is as much as I can handle.. will keep posted on what occurs. Shingles is somewhat worse today, but not intolerable. . just tender and itching and uncomfortable to lie on.. but I'm glad I found out what it was and that it affects lymph

nodules. I'd been experiencing a cold sore during the course, and also some pain in the area of the lymph. Being a 58 yr old woman I started feeling for lumps, but noticed they were similar on both sides.. the pain is now explained by lymph node affectation. Also interestingly the area affected ran from the mid belly to the kidney area.. which led me to suspect kidney infection. But as no other symptons..w as again worried about cancer.. not too worried.. as that makes it worse.. Cold sores now explained... as part of the herpes shingles thing... Appreciate your help and fellowship..sunny xA peek into our world.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for AllFeed the Future- The blog In depth articles - forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? <http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog> Follow us on Twitter -

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[miracle_mineral_ supplement] Re: Shingles and MMSBathe in MMS1 for the shingles.http://mms4life. wordpress. com/mms-protocol activation/ mms-method- for-bathsoak/ <http://mms4life. wordpress. com/mms-protocol activation/ mms-method- for-bathsoak/>

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Thanks for this, really appreciate all the kind help.. ordered the Chinese remedy suggested by Sally and am also going to go for MSM. Am looking on some other list for some vitamin/mineral supplier who is very reliable, effective, has good stuff and lower cost. Can't remember the name..

Meanwhile, it's pretty debilitating... and I'm soldiering on... these lists have been a godsend for me and I see for many others. Thank you all for the cameraderie, and the knowing that there are bands of people everywhere who are determined to pursue alternative wellnes methods. I am also drinking olive leaf tea.. as an anti viral and rubbing on doses of 30 drop mms without water, activated with apple cider vinegar, after spraying on DMSO.. for penetration. I can just wait and see....

Sometimes it's good to be sick so that we can individually pursue the remedies and then pass the info on to others.. it is our duty to do so, and one of my missions is to spread the word, in my blog, on facebook... where I am very active.. and to whomever I can.

big smiles to all of you soldiers..

sunny x

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From: healinghope <mfrreman@...> Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 1:49:04 PMSubject: [ ] Re: Shingles and MMS

Sun You may want to take MSM for the pain and inflammation. At least 1000mg 3 times daily.http://content. nhiondemand. com/psv/monoAll- style.asp? objID=100028 & ctype=ds & mtyp=4