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I think that you should email Rashelle herself and ask her about it. She's a

lovely wonderful lady. She posts here very often too so she may see your post!

But personally, I don't know if we can just tell you how to do the breath. And

besides that, it may only make sense if you can see it being done anyway.

I don't post here often (but I always read the posts to see how everyone is

doing), but all the ladies here will probably help with any questions you have.

Best of luck!

Vicky xxx

alisha0795 <allen42@...> wrote:Hi. My name is Alisha. I am new here. I was

curious about

something. I have seen the infomercial on TV for LL and I was

wanting to try it. I have looked up many things on the internet and

no one offers this technique for free. So, by joining this group

does that mean I need to purchase the tapes to get help? If so I

will just unjoin. I cannot afford the tapes. I want to try this but

I can't afford to purchase tapes to show me how to breathe. Can you

all help me or is that violating some sort of copyright thing?

Thanks.

Alisha

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Dear Vicky,

It is best to order the video and see the program in it's totally, however I

will explain it to you as best I can. I know what it is like to have very

tight finances but want to stress again that you will learn best from

Rashelle and her videos. There is nothing that compares to seeing as well

as following instruction.

The aerobic breathing is accomplished by taking in a breath and blowing out

through pursed lips as if you are blowing through a straw. When you have

exhaled all your breath...no more left in your lungs you drawn in your

breath through your nose with your mouth closed. Hold till at least the

count of three and exhale with the muscles in your diaphragm forcing out the

air usually sounds like your saying the word pah. You do this with mouth

wide open as you exhale all this breath you tighten your muscles in your

stomach area and or other areas as well and hold as long as you can hold

your breath. This is done in a relaxed manner. Your shoulders should be

loose, not tensed up.

Rashelle made this routine to help regain health and she is a gentle lady

and so is her exercise. You are able to sculpt your body by tensing certain

areas as you do the breathing. On her videos she shows how to do different

muscle groups as well as acupressure points for relief and stimulation of

different areas of the body. These pressure points can help to direct the

flow of the oxygen which helps to bring the healing.

Rashelle has a sale on some of her tapes right now. It would be a good time

to purchase one. Many people on the lists love one video over the other or

the commuter cd Her address is LifeLift.net. I went there before writing

this to see what was available there. Rashelle also has her newsletters

posted on her site which can tell you how Life Lift has helped so many

people to regain their health as well as loose unwanted inches and pounds as

well as other helpful information.

If you can't afford one by yourself maybe you could go together with someone

else and buy one on shares until you could afford to get some of the other

tapes. Most of us can eek out $20. plus postage and handling if it is

something that we really want and are convinced it will help. I hope this

has helped to convince you that it is really beneficial. If not, the

testimonies at her website should.

Virginia

Re: New to this group.

>

> I think that you should email Rashelle herself and ask her about it. She's

a lovely wonderful lady. She posts here very often too so she may see your

post! But personally, I don't know if we can just tell you how to do the

breath. And besides that, it may only make sense if you can see it being

done anyway.

> I don't post here often (but I always read the posts to see how everyone

is doing), but all the ladies here will probably help with any questions you

have.

> Best of luck!

> Vicky xxx

> alisha0795 <allen42@...> wrote:Hi. My name is Alisha. I am new here.

I was curious about

> something. I have seen the infomercial on TV for LL and I was

> wanting to try it. I have looked up many things on the internet and

> no one offers this technique for free. So, by joining this group

> does that mean I need to purchase the tapes to get help? If so I

> will just unjoin. I cannot afford the tapes. I want to try this but

> I can't afford to purchase tapes to show me how to breathe. Can you

> all help me or is that violating some sort of copyright thing?

> Thanks.

> Alisha

>

>

>

>

> What can changing the way you breathe do for you? Everything!

> See why tens of thousands agree, Life Lift is the best!

http://www.oxygenzoo.com

>

>

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Thanks for the info. I really am not trying to get off scott free or

anything. I really did want the videos. BUT, they are $60 (on the

infomercial). I was ready to order until I saw that. I just can't

come up with that amount any time soon. We're on a tight budget

(extremely tight) and I have to save every penny to get my 22 month

old whatever she may need. I have 100 pounds to lose. I've tried so

many diets and exercise routines. And, now, my doctor even has me on

diet pills (insurance doesn't cover this med at all) and the weight

is STILL not coming off. I wanted to try this technique to see if it

would help in any way. Heck, tried everything else...might as well

try this. I would still like to get the tapes to find out everything

about this technique, but just not possible right now. Thanks a

bunch.

Alisha

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Hi Alisha, are you sure you saw an info for LL? I would suggest going to her

site at www.lifelift.com because I don't remember any of her videos being that

much. Her site will tell you alot about LL and I think really help you. And we

will try to help you in any way we can.

Love,

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Re: New to this group.

Thanks for the info. I really am not trying to get off scott free or

anything. I really did want the videos. BUT, they are $60 (on the

infomercial). I was ready to order until I saw that. I just can't

come up with that amount any time soon. We're on a tight budget

(extremely tight) and I have to save every penny to get my 22 month

old whatever she may need. I have 100 pounds to lose. I've tried so

many diets and exercise routines. And, now, my doctor even has me on

diet pills (insurance doesn't cover this med at all) and the weight

is STILL not coming off. I wanted to try this technique to see if it

would help in any way. Heck, tried everything else...might as well

try this. I would still like to get the tapes to find out everything

about this technique, but just not possible right now. Thanks a

bunch.

Alisha

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Yes, I'm sure it was for Life Lift. I saw it on tv a couple nights

ago. They did have a special where they'd drop one payment I think

so that would make it $40 plus shipping. But, I still can't come up

with that right now. I know that doesn't sound like much but I have

so many other things I need (like household supplies, etc) that I

need that extra $40 to put gas in the car, etc. That's why I got

online to see what was available. I haven't visited the site yet.

Thanks.

Alisha

> Hi Alisha, are you sure you saw an info for LL? I would suggest

going to her site at www.lifelift.com because I don't remember any of

her videos being that much. Her site will tell you alot about LL and

I think really help you. And we will try to help you in any way we

can.

> Love,

>

> Click here: http://www.lifelift.net/cgi-

bin/affiliates/clickthru.cgi?id=rdclem

> To learn how Lifelift has helped me to lose weight and gain good

health

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Alisha,

Where do you live? I've never seen a LL infomercial. How many tapes were

involved? Did they use a body exercise bar? Could it have been Body Flex

instead of Life Lift?

Love. Liz

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On Fri, 02 May 2003 17:47:53 -0000 " alisha0795 " <allen42@...>

writes:

> Yes, I'm sure it was for Life Lift. I saw it on tv a couple nights

> ago. They did have a special where they'd drop one payment I think

>

> so that would make it $40 plus shipping. But, I still can't come up

>

> with that right now. I know that doesn't sound like much but I have

>

> so many other things I need (like household supplies, etc) that I

> need that extra $40 to put gas in the car, etc. That's why I got

> online to see what was available. I haven't visited the site yet.

> Thanks.

> Alisha

>

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It sounds a lot like the BF infomercial (www.bodyflex.com). I haven't seen it

but I know that the things you mentioned are what Greer offers.

Rashelle taught Greer the technique (BF is kinda like a more hyper version of

LL).

As far as weight-loss vs. inch-loss: When you lose weight quickly it is likely

that you are losing muscle. Therefore you may become flabbier and more dimply as

a result (rather than beautifully slim and toned). The reason that inch-loss is

the focus of LL more than weight-loss is because inch-loss is what shows fat

loss. And besides, many people who talk about losing weight mean that they want

to be slimmer/wear smaller clothing sizes. Inch-loss is what will bring this,

not weight-loss. [Just wanted to point that out :) ]

Good luck with whatever you decide to do!

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Hi ,

Welcome to the group. It definitely sounds like your daughter has

torticollis, it's a tight, twisted neck muscle and it goes hand in

hand with plagiocephaly. You can learn more about torticollis by

going here:

http://www.pedisurg.com/PtEduc/Torticollis.htm

http://www.infant-torticollis.org/

Physical therapy sounds like it is needed to help Lizzie's

torticollis resolve. It is important to get the tort taken care of,

if not the plagio will have a hard time getting corrected. If a baby

is banded and receives great results but still has tort, there is a

chance of regression. Do you know what type of helmet Lizzie will be

getting? You can tell your ped that you want to see a Physical

therapist, if only for an evaluataion. If you can try and find a PT

that is familiar with torticollis. When is your appointment in OKC?

Please keep us posted.

> Hello. I'm new. My daughter, , is 5 months old (3 1/2

months

> adjusted because she was born 6 weeks early). My dd's ped has sent

us to a

> neurologist to have her fitted for a helmet. She constantly has

her head

> turned to the right, and hasn't done well with the neck exercises

her ped

> recommended. She's gotten to the point where she screams if you

have her

> turn her head all the way to the left. Her poor ear is flopped

over half the time.

> Her doctor said at first that she just liked the right side better,

but I've seen her

> try very hard to look to her left. We're having to go all the way

to OKC (a 2 1/2

> hour drive) to see the specialist and as the days get closer I get

more worried.

> Anyways, Hi to all and I look forward to posting more messages.

>

> -- mother to (ft 8/8/02) and (6 weeks early

11/11/03)

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Thanks for the warm welcome . Liz's appointment is on April 14th. Her

ped didn't tell us what kind of helmet she's going to be fitted for. We

actually

have to go to his office this Monday to get Liz's senergist (RSV shot) . I'm

keeping my fingers crossed that things go well in OKC. My parents were nice

enough to offer to watch my son so he doesn't have to sit in a doctor's

office all day.

Sincerely,

> > Hello. I'm new. My daughter, , is 5 months old (3 1/2

> months

> > adjusted because she was born 6 weeks early). My dd's ped has sent

> us to a

> > neurologist to have her fitted for a helmet. She constantly has

> her head

> > turned to the right, and hasn't done well with the neck exercises

> her ped

> > recommended. She's gotten to the point where she screams if you

> have her

> > turn her head all the way to the left. Her poor ear is flopped

> over half the time.

> > Her doctor said at first that she just liked the right side better,

> but I've seen her

> > try very hard to look to her left. We're having to go all the way

> to OKC (a 2 1/2

> > hour drive) to see the specialist and as the days get closer I get

> more worried.

> > Anyways, Hi to all and I look forward to posting more messages.

> >

> > -- mother to (ft 8/8/02) and (6 weeks early

> 11/11/03)

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It is REALLY important that you do your homework when it comes to

bands and helmets. Bands and helmets in the hands of an inexperienced

orthotist can do more harm than good. Please make sure your orthotist

has PLENTY of experience in treating plagio babies with a helmet.

Your pediatrician will be fitting Liz for her helmet? Or did he refer

you somewhere?

> > > Hello. I'm new. My daughter, , is 5 months old (3 1/2

> > months

> > > adjusted because she was born 6 weeks early). My dd's ped has

sent

> > us to a

> > > neurologist to have her fitted for a helmet. She constantly

has

> > her head

> > > turned to the right, and hasn't done well with the neck

exercises

> > her ped

> > > recommended. She's gotten to the point where she screams if you

> > have her

> > > turn her head all the way to the left. Her poor ear is flopped

> > over half the time.

> > > Her doctor said at first that she just liked the right side

better,

> > but I've seen her

> > > try very hard to look to her left. We're having to go all the

way

> > to OKC (a 2 1/2

> > > hour drive) to see the specialist and as the days get closer I

get

> > more worried.

> > > Anyways, Hi to all and I look forward to posting more messages.

> > >

> > > -- mother to (ft 8/8/02) and (6 weeks

early

> > 11/11/03)

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,

Liz was referred to the neurologist. I've actually researched quite a few of

the

bands and helmets available, though I don't know which one will be used. As

for the neurologist, one of his specialities is plagio babies. So in that

regard,

I'm not that worried.

Thanks for the concern,

> > > > Hello. I'm new. My daughter, , is 5 months old (3 1/2

> > > months

> > > > adjusted because she was born 6 weeks early). My dd's ped has

> sent

> > > us to a

> > > > neurologist to have her fitted for a helmet. She constantly

> has

> > > her head

> > > > turned to the right, and hasn't done well with the neck

> exercises

> > > her ped

> > > > recommended. She's gotten to the point where she screams if you

> > > have her

> > > > turn her head all the way to the left. Her poor ear is flopped

> > > over half the time.

> > > > Her doctor said at first that she just liked the right side

> better,

> > > but I've seen her

> > > > try very hard to look to her left. We're having to go all the

> way

> > > to OKC (a 2 1/2

> > > > hour drive) to see the specialist and as the days get closer I

> get

> > > more worried.

> > > > Anyways, Hi to all and I look forward to posting more messages.

> > > >

> > > > -- mother to (ft 8/8/02) and (6 weeks

> early

> > > 11/11/03)

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,

That's good! What is his name? Someone here may have used him.

> > > > > Hello. I'm new. My daughter, , is 5 months old (3

1/2

> > > > months

> > > > > adjusted because she was born 6 weeks early). My dd's ped

has

> > sent

> > > > us to a

> > > > > neurologist to have her fitted for a helmet. She

constantly

> > has

> > > > her head

> > > > > turned to the right, and hasn't done well with the neck

> > exercises

> > > > her ped

> > > > > recommended. She's gotten to the point where she screams if

you

> > > > have her

> > > > > turn her head all the way to the left. Her poor ear is

flopped

> > > > over half the time.

> > > > > Her doctor said at first that she just liked the right side

> > better,

> > > > but I've seen her

> > > > > try very hard to look to her left. We're having to go all

the

> > way

> > > > to OKC (a 2 1/2

> > > > > hour drive) to see the specialist and as the days get

closer I

> > get

> > > > more worried.

> > > > > Anyways, Hi to all and I look forward to posting more

messages.

> > > > >

> > > > > -- mother to (ft 8/8/02) and (6

weeks

> > early

> > > > 11/11/03)

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,

Hi. His name is Dr. Honeycutt. He's an assistant professor at OU. I'll put

up the site with his information once I find it again. Hopefully the info will

help

someone else when I find it.

--

> > > > > > Hello. I'm new. My daughter, , is 5 months old (3

> 1/2

> > > > > months

> > > > > > adjusted because she was born 6 weeks early). My dd's ped

> has

> > > sent

> > > > > us to a

> > > > > > neurologist to have her fitted for a helmet. She

> constantly

> > > has

> > > > > her head

> > > > > > turned to the right, and hasn't done well with the neck

> > > exercises

> > > > > her ped

> > > > > > recommended. She's gotten to the point where she screams if

> you

> > > > > have her

> > > > > > turn her head all the way to the left. Her poor ear is

> flopped

> > > > > over half the time.

> > > > > > Her doctor said at first that she just liked the right side

> > > better,

> > > > > but I've seen her

> > > > > > try very hard to look to her left. We're having to go all

> the

> > > way

> > > > > to OKC (a 2 1/2

> > > > > > hour drive) to see the specialist and as the days get

> closer I

> > > get

> > > > > more worried.

> > > > > > Anyways, Hi to all and I look forward to posting more

> messages.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -- mother to (ft 8/8/02) and (6

> weeks

> > > early

> > > > > 11/11/03)

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Hi !

Happy 5 month Birthday to !

I also have an who is just over 5 months old (my due date

was actually 11/11!). She also has plagio/tort (favoring the right

side).

I know how overwhelming this all is. was just DOC-banded

almost 2 weeks ago. We have been in physical therapy for the tort

for a little more than a month. How long have you been doing the

stretching exercises with your ? Are you going to PT?

You'll find this group to be extremely supportive and informative as

you go through this.

Best to you,

Barb &

Maine

> Hello. I'm new. My daughter, , is 5 months old (3 1/2

months

> adjusted because she was born 6 weeks early). My dd's ped has sent

us to a

> neurologist to have her fitted for a helmet. She constantly has

her head

> turned to the right, and hasn't done well with the neck exercises

her ped

> recommended. She's gotten to the point where she screams if you

have her

> turn her head all the way to the left. Her poor ear is flopped

over half the time.

> Her doctor said at first that she just liked the right side better,

but I've seen her

> try very hard to look to her left. We're having to go all the way

to OKC (a 2 1/2

> hour drive) to see the specialist and as the days get closer I get

more worried.

> Anyways, Hi to all and I look forward to posting more messages.

>

> -- mother to (ft 8/8/02) and (6 weeks early

11/11/03)

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Hi ,

It's great that your ped seems to be on top of the tort/plagio. I'm

sure others will chime in who used the same facility/speicalist you

will. With an experienced ortho should see excellent

results at her age. Let us know how the appt goes!

, mom to Hannah, DOCband #3 3/30

Cape Cod, Ma

> Hello. I'm new. My daughter, , is 5 months old (3 1/2

months

> adjusted because she was born 6 weeks early). My dd's ped has sent

us to a

> neurologist to have her fitted for a helmet. She constantly has

her head

> turned to the right, and hasn't done well with the neck exercises

her ped

> recommended. She's gotten to the point where she screams if you

have her

> turn her head all the way to the left. Her poor ear is flopped

over half the time.

> Her doctor said at first that she just liked the right side

better, but I've seen her

> try very hard to look to her left. We're having to go all the way

to OKC (a 2 1/2

> hour drive) to see the specialist and as the days get closer I get

more worried.

> Anyways, Hi to all and I look forward to posting more messages.

>

> -- mother to (ft 8/8/02) and (6 weeks

early 11/11/03)

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Hi Amy

I dont think apraxia has anything to do with potty training. My son has

apraxia he's 2 1/2 and potty training fine. It might be that he's just not

ready. If hes lost interest- try brining the interest back- when my son lost

interest- I started giving him m & m's- now he goes on the potty just for the m & m

(hehe)

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ih hope is 9 is is stell not potty train she has pdd

,cp ,sezers asmal and ld she stell ant taking each

year she get butter aliitel a year we staeed a 2 going

to baby and tolder porgam to help her .

--- amyestabrooks <amyestabrooks@...> wrote:

> I have a 3 year old and he has apraxia of speech and

> we are having a

> very hard time potty training him. This has been

> going on for about a

> year in a half. Any ideas. I have talked to docors

> about him having

> apraxia and potty training him but it goes in one

> ear and the other.

>

>

>

>

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>

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As a motor planning disorder, children with global apraxia will in fact have

problems potty training...something that takes quite a bit of motor control.

For those that strictly have it limited to oral apraxia - this is true...it

shouldn't have an impact on potty training. But it seems many of our

apraxic children have motor planning issues that are not just limited to

their speech. -

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Hi

It took us 12 months to the day to toilet train my daughter Tabatha.

I didn't feel that she was ready to train but she saw all the other kids going

so she had to be like them.

She had the idea sit on the toilet stay for a few minutes get off (wouldn't do

anything) go and wash her hands then wet herself.

We tried all the different tricks that we could think of IE stickers, m & M's,

ice cream, but nothing worked.

Then one day the penny dropped and she is now fully trained but at night she

still wears a nappy.

Tabatha was in family day care with the same carer for about 18 months and the

carer stopped care. Tabatha went backwards in just about everything including

going to the toilet.

So we had to start back at square one and start all over again. It took about

4 weeks and it was hard but we got there.

Maybe try giving it a break for a week or so and try again.

You will get there but will just take time.

All the best

ine

amyestabrooks <amyestabrooks@...> wrote:

I have a 3 year old and he has apraxia of speech and we are having a

very hard time potty training him. This has been going on for about a

year in a half. Any ideas. I have talked to docors about him having

apraxia and potty training him but it goes in one ear and the other.

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Hi, : I hope you take her to a psychologist who an ocd

specialist or can immediately refer you to one. Your daughter's

behavior isn't strange. Any one of us on this board (I'll wager) has

seen very similar behaviors in our own children. Your daughter's

fears/compulsions are very consisitent with OCD. You're taking the

right steps, but please, please ask your husband not to punish your

daughter for behavior she has no control over at this time. In the

meantime (read through the posts and articles (files) here... you'll

start to see a clear pattern in these kids, and you'll be able to

discuss this with your psychologist armed with some good information

on OCD.

>

> Hi, I am a 32-year-old mother of two daughters ages 9 and 4. My

> youngest daughter has been having some strange behavioral issues

for

> which I took her to the pediatrician on Monday and she was

diagnosed

> with possible OCD and/or possible anxiety disorder. I have an

> appointment with a psychologist on Tuesday to discuss this further

> and see about setting up treatment.

>

> Basically, her symptoms are that of being worried about death.

Every

> little boo boo she gets or any time I as much as stub a toe, she

> asked if I am going to die.

>

> She also worries about germs. Germs on her body, germs on

surfaces,

> germs on her food . . . She has been doing some excessive

> handwashing and will refuse to eat her foot if it touches any other

> surface other than her plate or fork, such as if it was to fall off

> the fork onto the table.

>

> The symptom that has been bothering me most lately is spitting.

She

> continually spits into the trash can and has even spit on her

bedroom

> floor at night. She says this is because she has hairs in her

> mouth.

>

> Mostly she has these symptoms when she is at home but yesterday she

> also began at school with them. She told her teacher she was

afraid

> that she may have swallowed pencil shavings and that she might

diet.

> was nowhere near a pencil or pencil sharpener at the time.

> The teacher said she went on and on for about 15 minutes about it

and

> even had the teacher check inside her mouth to be sure.

>

> She has also been much more clingy to me in the past week not

leaving

> my side very much at all.

>

> I am unsure how to handle these behaviors. My husband has

forbidden

> her from the spitting and gives her a time out if he catches her.

I

> tend to just ignore it as to not draw any more attention to it.

>

> What advise can you give me. How should I handle this spitting

> behavior.

>

> My appointment with the psychologist is 5 days away and I may lose

my

> mind before then!

>

> Thanks!

>

>

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Welcome, .

Your daughter sounds like all our kids here, so I'd

bet a million bucks on an OCD diagnosis.

My son is also a spitter, and I've seen many others

from this group with the same lovely ritual. Try to

get your husband to lay off. Your daughter has no

tools yet to fight her compulsions and it's both

unrealistic and counterproductive to expect her to

until she is in treatment. With my son, the more I

caught him spitting, the better he got at hiding it. I

thought he'd given it up until I ask and he tells me

he's still doing it. If that were the worst of it, I

think we'd all be happy to live with a bit of spit

here and there.

Hang in there. Help is on the way and you are doing

the right things.

--- lisarmomof2 <lisarmomof2@...> wrote:

> Hi, I am a 32-year-old mother of two daughters ages

> 9 and 4. My

> youngest daughter has been having some strange

> behavioral issues for

> which I took her to the pediatrician on Monday and

> she was diagnosed

> with possible OCD and/or possible anxiety disorder.

> I have an

> appointment with a psychologist on Tuesday to

> discuss this further

> and see about setting up treatment.

>

> Basically, her symptoms are that of being worried

> about death. Every

> little boo boo she gets or any time I as much as

> stub a toe, she

> asked if I am going to die.

>

> She also worries about germs. Germs on her body,

> germs on surfaces,

> germs on her food . . . She has been doing some

> excessive

> handwashing and will refuse to eat her foot if it

> touches any other

> surface other than her plate or fork, such as if it

> was to fall off

> the fork onto the table.

>

> The symptom that has been bothering me most lately

> is spitting. She

> continually spits into the trash can and has even

> spit on her bedroom

> floor at night. She says this is because she has

> hairs in her

> mouth.

>

> Mostly she has these symptoms when she is at home

> but yesterday she

> also began at school with them. She told her

> teacher she was afraid

> that she may have swallowed pencil shavings and that

> she might diet.

> was nowhere near a pencil or pencil sharpener

> at the time.

> The teacher said she went on and on for about 15

> minutes about it and

> even had the teacher check inside her mouth to be

> sure.

>

> She has also been much more clingy to me in the past

> week not leaving

> my side very much at all.

>

> I am unsure how to handle these behaviors. My

> husband has forbidden

> her from the spitting and gives her a time out if he

> catches her. I

> tend to just ignore it as to not draw any more

> attention to it.

>

> What advise can you give me. How should I handle

> this spitting

> behavior.

>

> My appointment with the psychologist is 5 days away

> and I may lose my

> mind before then!

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>

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Thanks for the encouragement. I talked to my husband today about the

spitting issue and he said that he will no longer even acknowledge

that she is doing it until we have our psychologist appointment and

get some professional advice. I think he finally came to the

realization (as I did) that you are just wasting your energy by

trying to stop it at this point.

I am just so sad for her. My poor little sweetie. What could be so

terrible in her life and in her mind that is causing her to react

this way.

>

> > Hi, I am a 32-year-old mother of two daughters ages

> > 9 and 4. My

> > youngest daughter has been having some strange

> > behavioral issues for

> > which I took her to the pediatrician on Monday and

> > she was diagnosed

> > with possible OCD and/or possible anxiety disorder.

> > I have an

> > appointment with a psychologist on Tuesday to

> > discuss this further

> > and see about setting up treatment.

> >

> > Basically, her symptoms are that of being worried

> > about death. Every

> > little boo boo she gets or any time I as much as

> > stub a toe, she

> > asked if I am going to die.

> >

> > She also worries about germs. Germs on her body,

> > germs on surfaces,

> > germs on her food . . . She has been doing some

> > excessive

> > handwashing and will refuse to eat her foot if it

> > touches any other

> > surface other than her plate or fork, such as if it

> > was to fall off

> > the fork onto the table.

> >

> > The symptom that has been bothering me most lately

> > is spitting. She

> > continually spits into the trash can and has even

> > spit on her bedroom

> > floor at night. She says this is because she has

> > hairs in her

> > mouth.

> >

> > Mostly she has these symptoms when she is at home

> > but yesterday she

> > also began at school with them. She told her

> > teacher she was afraid

> > that she may have swallowed pencil shavings and that

> > she might diet.

> > was nowhere near a pencil or pencil sharpener

> > at the time.

> > The teacher said she went on and on for about 15

> > minutes about it and

> > even had the teacher check inside her mouth to be

> > sure.

> >

> > She has also been much more clingy to me in the past

> > week not leaving

> > my side very much at all.

> >

> > I am unsure how to handle these behaviors. My

> > husband has forbidden

> > her from the spitting and gives her a time out if he

> > catches her. I

> > tend to just ignore it as to not draw any more

> > attention to it.

> >

> > What advise can you give me. How should I handle

> > this spitting

> > behavior.

> >

> > My appointment with the psychologist is 5 days away

> > and I may lose my

> > mind before then!

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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: There's nothing terrible in her life! It's OCD. It's a

neurobiological disorder. I cry for these children, too. It is very

sad, but it can get much, much better with treatment and education.

When my son couldn't believe that he had to deal with this for

(perhaps) the rest of his life, I would always tell him, " yes, and

I'm as blind as a bat without my glasses, I wish I had perfect

vision, but I have to wear glasses. " Think of the therapy and

treatment she will receive as her " glasses. " You both will learn to

cope. The wonderful part of it is is that these kids are generally

intelligent, creative, incredibly sensitive and kind, and attuned to

all the nuances of the world that most of us don't even think about.

As Dr. Chansky has written: It's like instead of attention " deficit "

disorder, OCDers have attention " surplus " disorder.

> >

> > > Hi, I am a 32-year-old mother of two daughters ages

> > > 9 and 4. My

> > > youngest daughter has been having some strange

> > > behavioral issues for

> > > which I took her to the pediatrician on Monday and

> > > she was diagnosed

> > > with possible OCD and/or possible anxiety disorder.

> > > I have an

> > > appointment with a psychologist on Tuesday to

> > > discuss this further

> > > and see about setting up treatment.

> > >

> > > Basically, her symptoms are that of being worried

> > > about death. Every

> > > little boo boo she gets or any time I as much as

> > > stub a toe, she

> > > asked if I am going to die.

> > >

> > > She also worries about germs. Germs on her body,

> > > germs on surfaces,

> > > germs on her food . . . She has been doing some

> > > excessive

> > > handwashing and will refuse to eat her foot if it

> > > touches any other

> > > surface other than her plate or fork, such as if it

> > > was to fall off

> > > the fork onto the table.

> > >

> > > The symptom that has been bothering me most lately

> > > is spitting. She

> > > continually spits into the trash can and has even

> > > spit on her bedroom

> > > floor at night. She says this is because she has

> > > hairs in her

> > > mouth.

> > >

> > > Mostly she has these symptoms when she is at home

> > > but yesterday she

> > > also began at school with them. She told her

> > > teacher she was afraid

> > > that she may have swallowed pencil shavings and that

> > > she might diet.

> > > was nowhere near a pencil or pencil sharpener

> > > at the time.

> > > The teacher said she went on and on for about 15

> > > minutes about it and

> > > even had the teacher check inside her mouth to be

> > > sure.

> > >

> > > She has also been much more clingy to me in the past

> > > week not leaving

> > > my side very much at all.

> > >

> > > I am unsure how to handle these behaviors. My

> > > husband has forbidden

> > > her from the spitting and gives her a time out if he

> > > catches her. I

> > > tend to just ignore it as to not draw any more

> > > attention to it.

> > >

> > > What advise can you give me. How should I handle

> > > this spitting

> > > behavior.

> > >

> > > My appointment with the psychologist is 5 days away

> > > and I may lose my

> > > mind before then!

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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: There's nothing terrible in her life! It's OCD. It's a

neurobiological disorder. I cry for these children, too. It is very

sad, but it can get much, much better with treatment and education.

When my son couldn't believe that he had to deal with this for

(perhaps) the rest of his life, I would always tell him, " yes, and

I'm as blind as a bat without my glasses, I wish I had perfect

vision, but I have to wear glasses. " Think of the therapy and

treatment she will receive as her " glasses. " You both will learn to

cope. The wonderful part of it is is that these kids are generally

intelligent, creative, incredibly sensitive and kind, and attuned to

all the nuances of the world that most of us don't even think about.

As Dr. Chansky has written: It's like instead of attention " deficit "

disorder, OCDers have attention " surplus " disorder.

> >

> > > Hi, I am a 32-year-old mother of two daughters ages

> > > 9 and 4. My

> > > youngest daughter has been having some strange

> > > behavioral issues for

> > > which I took her to the pediatrician on Monday and

> > > she was diagnosed

> > > with possible OCD and/or possible anxiety disorder.

> > > I have an

> > > appointment with a psychologist on Tuesday to

> > > discuss this further

> > > and see about setting up treatment.

> > >

> > > Basically, her symptoms are that of being worried

> > > about death. Every

> > > little boo boo she gets or any time I as much as

> > > stub a toe, she

> > > asked if I am going to die.

> > >

> > > She also worries about germs. Germs on her body,

> > > germs on surfaces,

> > > germs on her food . . . She has been doing some

> > > excessive

> > > handwashing and will refuse to eat her foot if it

> > > touches any other

> > > surface other than her plate or fork, such as if it

> > > was to fall off

> > > the fork onto the table.

> > >

> > > The symptom that has been bothering me most lately

> > > is spitting. She

> > > continually spits into the trash can and has even

> > > spit on her bedroom

> > > floor at night. She says this is because she has

> > > hairs in her

> > > mouth.

> > >

> > > Mostly she has these symptoms when she is at home

> > > but yesterday she

> > > also began at school with them. She told her

> > > teacher she was afraid

> > > that she may have swallowed pencil shavings and that

> > > she might diet.

> > > was nowhere near a pencil or pencil sharpener

> > > at the time.

> > > The teacher said she went on and on for about 15

> > > minutes about it and

> > > even had the teacher check inside her mouth to be

> > > sure.

> > >

> > > She has also been much more clingy to me in the past

> > > week not leaving

> > > my side very much at all.

> > >

> > > I am unsure how to handle these behaviors. My

> > > husband has forbidden

> > > her from the spitting and gives her a time out if he

> > > catches her. I

> > > tend to just ignore it as to not draw any more

> > > attention to it.

> > >

> > > What advise can you give me. How should I handle

> > > this spitting

> > > behavior.

> > >

> > > My appointment with the psychologist is 5 days away

> > > and I may lose my

> > > mind before then!

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Hi ,

Welcome to the group. It definitely sounds like your daughter

has OCD. I know it seems like forever waiting to get in to see a

psychiatrist, but hang in there. Glad to hear your husband is going

to lay off scolding her for spitting. If your daughter has OCD, she

can't help it. I'm sure she would like to stop, but she just

can't. It is not anything that happened to her in her life that is

making her do this, it is a chemical inbalance in the brain and it

is something she was born with. My 17 yr old son has OCD. He has

contamination obsessions. He's a washer; constantly having to buy

body wash, shampoo, hand soap, etc. He doesn't spit, but he blows

his nose a lot and goes thru a ton of kleenex. The best thing you

can do while waiting to see the psychiatrist is research. A good

place to start is www.ocfoundation.org. Also try to find some books

on OCD. A really good one is one written by Dr. Chansky is " Freeing

your child from obsessive-compulsive disorder : a powerful,

practical program for parents of children and adolescents " .

You are not alone.

Connie

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