Re: Purchasing MMS / stabilized 5% / Tom / salt?

[Guest guest]

Stabilized chlorine dioxide solutions are stable because

of the PH. As long as the PH is above 8, they remain stable. When

they drop below 8 the become activated. The activated solutions release

free chlorine dioxide and eventually get totally used up.

Tom

K, I had to figure this out on my own J like, it was right there in my

face but I didn’t catch it.

Let me see if I’m going in the right direction…

The ph of salt is 7

The ph of salt water is 8

So is stabilized 5% simply CD that is added to high

concentration of salt water?

Which would, bang head here, explain the salty taste and

burned like the dickens when I tried it on open mini wound and orally straight,

holding it in my mouth? Man, did I burn my mouth on that one J

When I put straight 28% on my skin on open spot, no

burning, stabilized 5%...yeowee

Right direction Tom?

Thanks as always for your expertise…it was an eye

opener reading about h202, the diff in oxidation, also h202 vs CD as mouth wash

and clearly why I would want to go the CD route. I never did resonate

with h202 drink protocol anyway…felt ucky all day long, kept tasting it

hours later.

Xxx

rose

[Guest guest]

Hello Rose,

You are still a little off, so let's see if that can be straightened out.

Salt is a crystal and it has no PH.

Sodium chlorite is a type of salt, and it has no PH until it is put into

solution.

In solution, sodium chlorite has a PH of around 12 - 14.

Stabilized chlorine dioxide is sodium chlorite in water. This becomes chlorine

dioxide when the PH of the solution is lowered below a PH of about 8. The

further you drive the PH lower, the more of the available chlorine dioxide is

released as free chlorine dioxide.

Since sodium chlorite is a salt, I call stabilized chlorine dioxide salt

water... However, it does have a salty taste.

There are two ways, at least, to burn skin tissue. One is through a chemical

burn due to a large PH difference, the other is along the same avenue but

involves the formation of chlorous acid through activation. Your skin

observations could be due to changes in the skin allowing for more acid present.

I believe it takes a little less acid to activate a lower concentration sodium

chlorite solution so that would make the reaction more noticeable with the 5%

concentration.

I don't recommend putting either 5% or 22.4% sodium chlorite directly on your

skin. It is very hard to wash off and it will continue to react to the skin

oils for several hours. Concentrations in the 0.05 - 0.1% range are easier on

the skin, but even those are noticeable hours after application.

Tom

--- In , " palulukon " <palulukon@...>

wrote:

>

> Stabilized chlorine dioxide solutions are stable because of the PH. As long

> as the PH is above 8, they remain stable. When they drop below 8 the become

> activated. The activated solutions release free chlorine dioxide and

> eventually get totally used up.

>

>

>

> Tom

>

>

>

> K, I had to figure this out on my own J like, it was right there in my face

> but I didn't catch it.

>

>

>

> Let me see if I'm going in the right direction.

>

>

>

> The ph of salt is 7

>

>

>

> The ph of salt water is 8

>

>

>

> So is stabilized 5% simply CD that is added to high concentration of salt

> water?

>

>

>

> Which would, bang head here, explain the salty taste and burned like the

> dickens when I tried it on open mini wound and orally straight, holding it

> in my mouth? Man, did I burn my mouth on that one J

>

>

>

> When I put straight 28% on my skin on open spot, no burning, stabilized

> 5%...yeowee

>

>

>

> Right direction Tom?

>

>

>

> Thanks as always for your expertise.it was an eye opener reading about h202,

> the diff in oxidation, also h202 vs CD as mouth wash and clearly why I would

> want to go the CD route. I never did resonate with h202 drink protocol

> anyway.felt ucky all day long, kept tasting it hours later.

>

>

>

> Xxx

>

>

>

> rose

>

[Guest guest]

Tom I had stubborn moles and tags, and a friend had warts, we both now have

nothing on our skin. The only way I found for removing stubborn moles and large

tags was with 28% chlorine dioxide, and DMSO. My skin was irritated, however the

tags and moles were gone, my doctor even suspected one mole should have a

biopsy. The baths removed less stubborn or smaller ones, my friend said the bath

did very little for warts.

>

>

> Hello Rose,

>

> You are still a little off, so let's see if that can be straightened out.

>

> Salt is a crystal and it has no PH.

>

> Sodium chlorite is a type of salt, and it has no PH until it is put into

solution.

>

> In solution, sodium chlorite has a PH of around 12 - 14.

>

> Stabilized chlorine dioxide is sodium chlorite in water. This becomes

chlorine dioxide when the PH of the solution is lowered below a PH of about 8.

The further you drive the PH lower, the more of the available chlorine dioxide

is released as free chlorine dioxide.

>

> Since sodium chlorite is a salt, I call stabilized chlorine dioxide salt

water... However, it does have a salty taste.

>

> There are two ways, at least, to burn skin tissue. One is through a chemical

burn due to a large PH difference, the other is along the same avenue but

involves the formation of chlorous acid through activation. Your skin

observations could be due to changes in the skin allowing for more acid present.

I believe it takes a little less acid to activate a lower concentration sodium

chlorite solution so that would make the reaction more noticeable with the 5%

concentration.

>

> I don't recommend putting either 5% or 22.4% sodium chlorite directly on your

skin. It is very hard to wash off and it will continue to react to the skin

oils for several hours. Concentrations in the 0.05 - 0.1% range are easier on

the skin, but even those are noticeable hours after application.

>

> Tom

>

>

> --- In , " palulukon " <palulukon@>

wrote:

> >

> > Stabilized chlorine dioxide solutions are stable because of the PH. As long

> > as the PH is above 8, they remain stable. When they drop below 8 the become

> > activated. The activated solutions release free chlorine dioxide and

> > eventually get totally used up.

> >

> >

> >

> > Tom

> >

> >

> >

> > K, I had to figure this out on my own J like, it was right there in my face

> > but I didn't catch it.

> >

> >

> >

> > Let me see if I'm going in the right direction.

> >

> >

> >

> > The ph of salt is 7

> >

> >

> >

> > The ph of salt water is 8

> >

> >

> >

> > So is stabilized 5% simply CD that is added to high concentration of salt

> > water?

> >

> >

> >

> > Which would, bang head here, explain the salty taste and burned like the

> > dickens when I tried it on open mini wound and orally straight, holding it

> > in my mouth? Man, did I burn my mouth on that one J

> >

> >

> >

> > When I put straight 28% on my skin on open spot, no burning, stabilized

> > 5%...yeowee

> >

> >

> >

> > Right direction Tom?

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks as always for your expertise.it was an eye opener reading about h202,

> > the diff in oxidation, also h202 vs CD as mouth wash and clearly why I would

> > want to go the CD route. I never did resonate with h202 drink protocol

> > anyway.felt ucky all day long, kept tasting it hours later.

> >

> >

> >

> > Xxx

> >

> >

> >

> > rose

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Healinghope,

Chemical surgery is very effective. I just don't recommend that everyone

practice it.

I am glad you were able to take care of your tags and moles with minimal adverse

effects.

Warts are difficult to get rid of. We use a two pronged approach. We cut a

paper towel about 3 times larger than the wart and soak it in a solution that

has 200 PPM free chlorine dioxide. This is applied and held on the wart for 15

- 20 minutes. Next we wipe the area with a paper towel saturated in 0.1%

chlorous acid and let that air dry. This is done twice a day and results are

usually within a week or two.

Tom

--- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@...>

wrote:

>

> Tom I had stubborn moles and tags, and a friend had warts, we both now have

nothing on our skin. The only way I found for removing stubborn moles and large

tags was with 28% chlorine dioxide, and DMSO. My skin was irritated, however the

tags and moles were gone, my doctor even suspected one mole should have a

biopsy. The baths removed less stubborn or smaller ones, my friend said the bath

did very little for warts.

[Guest guest]

>>>Hello Rose,

You are still a little off, so let's see if that can be

straightened out.<<<

Well, more than a little off J

Okay, here is where it is not processing in my brain.

22.5% = flakes + distilled water (right?)

5% = flakes + distilled water (right?)

So if both are mixed with water why do they promote one

as stabilized and one as not?  is it just marketing hype?  Or is there is

something I’m not getting but since I’m not getting it how would I know

what I’m not getting J

As far as on the skin, I was doing some test.  It’s

the mad scientist in me.  Only did it once on each location however J  that was all it took.  However, you

explanation of why the 5% burns more makes sense.  The 22 ½ % didn’t burn

at all on my skin…after the burn from the 5% on gum tissue (blisters and lasted

for days) I wasn’t about to try the 22 ½%.  At least I know when to

stop.  When I’m going to use something on the beast here I like to test

things on myself first in a variety of applications…they don’t speak

English very well and I don’t speak beast very well.  And I was told that

5% is perfectly fine to put full strength on the skin bc it is such low dose

which is where I got the idea in the first place.  As usual lots of

misinformation circulating…mad scientist beware

rose

[Guest guest]

Hello Rose,

You are doing great... [smile]

Let's see if this helps.

22.4% = flakes + distilled water and has a PH of about 12. The PH makes it

stabilized chlorine dioxide.

5% = flakes + distilled water and has a PH of about 11.8. The PH makes it

stabilized chlorine dioxide.

Both are stabilized.

Tom

--- In , " palulukon " <palulukon@...>

wrote:

>

> >>>Hello Rose,

>

>

>

> You are still a little off, so let's see if that can be straightened out.<<<

>

>

>

> Well, more than a little off J

>

>

>

> Okay, here is where it is not processing in my brain.

>

>

>

> 22.5% = flakes + distilled water (right?)

>

>

>

> 5% = flakes + distilled water (right?)

>

>

>

> So if both are mixed with water why do they promote one as stabilized and

> one as not? is it just marketing hype? Or is there is something I'm not

> getting but since I'm not getting it how would I know what I'm not getting J

>

>

>

> As far as on the skin, I was doing some test. It's the mad scientist in me.

> Only did it once on each location however J that was all it took. However,

> you explanation of why the 5% burns more makes sense. The 22 ½ % didn't

> burn at all on my skin…after the burn from the 5% on gum tissue (blisters

> and lasted for days) I wasn't about to try the 22 ½%. At least I know when

> to stop. When I'm going to use something on the beast here I like to test

> things on myself first in a variety of applications…they don't speak English

> very well and I don't speak beast very well. And I was told that 5% is

> perfectly fine to put full strength on the skin bc it is such low dose which

> is where I got the idea in the first place. As usual lots of misinformation

> circulating…mad scientist beware

>

>

>

> rose

>