Guest guest Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 http://jimhumble.biz/biz-fundamentals.htm http://jimhumble.biz/ http://jimhumble.biz/biz-cancer-stage4.htm > > > > > > > > > > Tom... > > > > > Thank you for your infinite patience regarding all these > questions about MMS. Would you comment on the following? > > > > > > > > > > My understanding is the chlorine dioxide generated in activated > MMS is probably consumed by the time the solution reaches the stomach so > there is no reason to activate the sodium chlorite unless using it as a > mouthwash or perhaps in something like a bath. > > > > > > > > > > What's really happening with MMS? Is sodium chlorite or chlorous > acid or something else somehow entering the bloodstream and generating > chlorine dioxide whenever it comes into contact with something acidic? I > think MMS has helped me and I know it has helped my pets. I'd like to > understand the mechanism of what is actually happening. I'm concerned > about problems within the body such as oxidation and free radicals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 Jon I might also add that you can use 50% citric acid and use 1 drop mms1 and 1 drop citric acid and reduce activaiton time to 20 seconds. This is great if using capsules avoiding the taste. http://mmsnews.org/NEWS010.htm -- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@...> wrote: > > http://jimhumble.biz/biz-fundamentals.htm > http://jimhumble.biz/ > http://jimhumble.biz/biz-cancer-stage4.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom... > > > > > > Thank you for your infinite patience regarding all these > > questions about MMS. Would you comment on the following? > > > > > > > > > > > > My understanding is the chlorine dioxide generated in activated > > MMS is probably consumed by the time the solution reaches the stomach so > > there is no reason to activate the sodium chlorite unless using it as a > > mouthwash or perhaps in something like a bath. > > > > > > > > > > > > What's really happening with MMS? Is sodium chlorite or chlorous > > acid or something else somehow entering the bloodstream and generating > > chlorine dioxide whenever it comes into contact with something acidic? I > > think MMS has helped me and I know it has helped my pets. I'd like to > > understand the mechanism of what is actually happening. I'm concerned > > about problems within the body such as oxidation and free radicals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 healinghope: Thank you. I have both the 1:5 and 1:1 Citric Acid, from different sources. I've been using the 1:1 50% solution as it is obviously easier and quicker as you pointed out. I order my 1:1 from PGL international - project Green Life. Think this is/was one of Jim's suggested sources. Not sure if there are others, but I have some raw Citric Acid powder and can make my own 1:1 once I run out. I'm changing my protocol to once an hour for 10 hours and MMS2 4x a day. Also doing MMS enemas and 10 drops MMS1 mixed with 1 tsp DMSO gel rubbed on the skin 4 x / day. Also trying to fit in a MMS1 bath with 40 drops once a day just for the heck of it. That's the goal at least. Thanks again for the help. Great site. Learning a lot, as well as verifying my current understanding. Jon Email: jdorrough@... Personal Website: http://www.jdorrough.us Book website: http://www.jdorrough.com Alumni website http://www.kindley.us Cancer Support Group: http://groups.google.com/group/healingcancer/ RVN 67-68 From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of healinghopeSent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 12:20 PM Subject: [ ] Re: New MMS Protocol Jon I might also add that you can use 50% citric acid and use 1 drop mms1 and 1 drop citric acid and reduce activaiton time to 20 seconds. This is great if using capsules avoiding the taste. http://mmsnews.org/NEWS010.htm-- In , "healinghope" <mfrreman@...> wrote:>> http://jimhumble.biz/biz-fundamentals.htm> http://jimhumble.biz/> http://jimhumble.biz/biz-cancer-stage4.htm> > > > > > >> > > > > > Tom...> > > > > > Thank you for your infinite patience regarding all these> > questions about MMS. Would you comment on the following?> > > > > >> > > > > > My understanding is the chlorine dioxide generated in activated> > MMS is probably consumed by the time the solution reaches the stomach so> > there is no reason to activate the sodium chlorite unless using it as a> > mouthwash or perhaps in something like a bath.> > > > > >> > > > > > What's really happening with MMS? Is sodium chlorite or chlorous> > acid or something else somehow entering the bloodstream and generating> > chlorine dioxide whenever it comes into contact with something acidic? I> > think MMS has helped me and I know it has helped my pets. I'd like to> > understand the mechanism of what is actually happening. I'm concerned> > about problems within the body such as oxidation and free radicals.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 Jon You are welcome. Wishing you energy and luck with your healing. I realize time is of the essence when dealing with possible terminal illness but be kind to your body, and give the treatment time. Remember a healing crisis should be expected but do not tax the body, be kind:) Please keep the group posted with concerns, progress or issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom... > > > > > > > Thank you for your infinite patience regarding all these > > > questions about MMS. Would you comment on the following? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My understanding is the chlorine dioxide generated in activated > > > MMS is probably consumed by the time the solution reaches the stomach so > > > there is no reason to activate the sodium chlorite unless using it as a > > > mouthwash or perhaps in something like a bath. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's really happening with MMS? Is sodium chlorite or chlorous > > > acid or something else somehow entering the bloodstream and generating > > > chlorine dioxide whenever it comes into contact with something acidic? I > > > think MMS has helped me and I know it has helped my pets. I'd like to > > > understand the mechanism of what is actually happening. I'm concerned > > > about problems within the body such as oxidation and free radicals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 Jon I assume you read that continuing all supplements, especially antioxidants is very important. I would add antioxidants to my protocol if I were you. Vit C, Vit E, Q10, the miracle tree or moringa oleifera is a winner to. Good rice bran is another winner. http://www.ourmiracletree.com/ http://mmsdr.com/index.php?page=rice-products > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom... > > > > > > > > Thank you for your infinite patience regarding all these > > > > questions about MMS. Would you comment on the following? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My understanding is the chlorine dioxide generated in activated > > > > MMS is probably consumed by the time the solution reaches the stomach so > > > > there is no reason to activate the sodium chlorite unless using it as a > > > > mouthwash or perhaps in something like a bath. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's really happening with MMS? Is sodium chlorite or chlorous > > > > acid or something else somehow entering the bloodstream and generating > > > > chlorine dioxide whenever it comes into contact with something acidic? I > > > > think MMS has helped me and I know it has helped my pets. I'd like to > > > > understand the mechanism of what is actually happening. I'm concerned > > > > about problems within the body such as oxidation and free radicals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 You need a 2 hour window between the mms and supplements. Perhaps in the morning take the supplements. Then 2 hours later after breakfast start treatment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom... > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your infinite patience regarding all these > > > > > questions about MMS. Would you comment on the following? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My understanding is the chlorine dioxide generated in activated > > > > > MMS is probably consumed by the time the solution reaches the stomach so > > > > > there is no reason to activate the sodium chlorite unless using it as a > > > > > mouthwash or perhaps in something like a bath. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's really happening with MMS? Is sodium chlorite or chlorous > > > > > acid or something else somehow entering the bloodstream and generating > > > > > chlorine dioxide whenever it comes into contact with something acidic? I > > > > > think MMS has helped me and I know it has helped my pets. I'd like to > > > > > understand the mechanism of what is actually happening. I'm concerned > > > > > about problems within the body such as oxidation and free radicals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2010 Report Share Posted June 27, 2010 healinghope, Thanks for the suggestions. I "had" been taking ton's of antioxidants daily but with the 10 times a day MMS1 schedule, I stopped taking them as I'm finding it hard to get a window for my antioxidants that's +/- 2 hrs from the MMS1 which, as we all know, the two cannot be taken together within that timeframe. Now thinking of doing my antioxidants prior to bed each night. I also have IV's three times a week at my Naturopath, which includes things like Cesium Chloride, rubidium Chloride and DMSO plus other little magic elixirs of which a major component is 50 grams IV vitamin C. At that dosage the Vit C become a "pro-oxidant" rather than an "anti-oxidant". But in spite of the different terminology, I still wait 3 hours after the IV before taking any MMS as the doc says that's how long the vit C stays in the body. The vit C enters the lungs and is converted to H202 hydrogen peroxide which supposedly enters the cancer cell as the H202 molecule looks a lot like cellular glucose and once inside the cell, breaks down to H20 and singlet oxygen 01. the 01 is the oxidizer which does all the work. Also doing ozone therapy as well. Man I have a busy day! You have no idea. Struggling to get it all in some days. Anyway,based on your suggestion/reminder, will add back my CoQ10, Antioxidants, Beta 3-D glucan and others but only at night prior to bed and 2 hrs after my last MMS. Thanks again for the suggestions! Jon Email: jdorrough@... Personal Website: http://www.jdorrough.us Book website: http://www.jdorrough.com Alumni website http://www.kindley.us Cancer Support Group: http://groups.google.com/group/healingcancer/ RVN 67-68 From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of healinghopeSent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 3:46 PM Subject: [ ] Re: New MMS Protocol Jon I assume you read that continuing all supplements, especially antioxidants is very important. I would add antioxidants to my protocol if I were you. Vit C, Vit E, Q10, the miracle tree or moringa oleifera is a winner to. Good rice bran is another winner.http://www.ourmiracletree.com/http://mmsdr.com/index.php?page=rice-products--- In , "healinghope" <mfrreman@...> wrote:>> Jon You are welcome. Wishing you energy and luck with your healing. I realize time is of the essence when dealing with possible terminal illness but be kind to your body, and give the treatment time. Remember a healing crisis should be expected but do not tax the body, be kind:) Please keep the group posted with concerns, progress or issues. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Tom...> > > > > > > > Thank you for your infinite patience regarding all these> > > > questions about MMS. Would you comment on the following?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > My understanding is the chlorine dioxide generated in activated> > > > MMS is probably consumed by the time the solution reaches the stomach so> > > > there is no reason to activate the sodium chlorite unless using it as a> > > > mouthwash or perhaps in something like a bath.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > What's really happening with MMS? Is sodium chlorite or chlorous> > > > acid or something else somehow entering the bloodstream and generating> > > > chlorine dioxide whenever it comes into contact with something acidic? I> > > > think MMS has helped me and I know it has helped my pets. I'd like to> > > > understand the mechanism of what is actually happening. I'm concerned> > > > about problems within the body such as oxidation and free radicals.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2010 Report Share Posted June 27, 2010 Healinghope, Yes, in the AM would work too. Oh, yes, I"m doing the Budwig Flaxseed oil/cottage cheese protocol also. Love it. Jon Email: jdorrough@... Personal Website: http://www.jdorrough.us Book website: http://www.jdorrough.com Alumni website http://www.kindley.us Cancer Support Group: http://groups.google.com/group/healingcancer/ RVN 67-68 From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of healinghopeSent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 3:50 PM Subject: [ ] Re: New MMS Protocol You need a 2 hour window between the mms and supplements. Perhaps in the morning take the supplements. Then 2 hours later after breakfast start treatment. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Tom...> > > > > > > > > Thank you for your infinite patience regarding all these> > > > > questions about MMS. Would you comment on the following?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > My understanding is the chlorine dioxide generated in activated> > > > > MMS is probably consumed by the time the solution reaches the stomach so> > > > > there is no reason to activate the sodium chlorite unless using it as a> > > > > mouthwash or perhaps in something like a bath.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > What's really happening with MMS? Is sodium chlorite or chlorous> > > > > acid or something else somehow entering the bloodstream and generating> > > > > chlorine dioxide whenever it comes into contact with something acidic? I> > > > > think MMS has helped me and I know it has helped my pets. I'd like to> > > > > understand the mechanism of what is actually happening. I'm concerned> > > > > about problems within the body such as oxidation and free radicals.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2010 Report Share Posted June 27, 2010 Jon, Thanks for the links, it's so nice to put a face to the voice. Our heartfelt wishes are for your full recovery on all levels. Keep in touch! Bev [ ] Re: New MMS Protocol Healinghope, Yes, in the AM would work too. Oh, yes, I"m doing the Budwig Flaxseed oil/cottage cheese protocol also. Love it. Jon Email: jdorrough Personal Website: http://www.jdorrough.us Book website: http://www.jdorrough.com Alumni website http://www.kindley.us Cancer Support Group: http://groups.google.com/group/healingcancer/ RVN 67-68 From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of healinghopeSent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 3:50 PM Subject: [ ] Re: New MMS Protocol You need a 2 hour window between the mms and supplements. Perhaps in the morning take the supplements. Then 2 hours later after breakfast start treatment. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Tom...> > > > > > > > > Thank you for your infinite patience regarding all these> > > > > questions about MMS. Would you comment on the following?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > My understanding is the chlorine dioxide generated in activated> > > > > MMS is probably consumed by the time the solution reaches the stomach so> > > > > there is no reason to activate the sodium chlorite unless using it as a> > > > > mouthwash or perhaps in something like a bath.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > What's really happening with MMS? Is sodium chlorite or chlorous> > > > > acid or something else somehow entering the bloodstream and generating> > > > > chlorine dioxide whenever it comes into contact with something acidic? I> > > > > think MMS has helped me and I know it has helped my pets. I'd like to> > > > > understand the mechanism of what is actually happening. I'm concerned> > > > > about problems within the body such as oxidation and free radicals.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2010 Report Share Posted June 27, 2010 Jon Thank you so much for the sites, I will follow your journey. What a wonderful idea. With energy and love good luck. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom... > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your infinite patience regarding all these > > > > > > questions about MMS. Would you comment on the following? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My understanding is the chlorine dioxide generated in activated > > > > > > MMS is probably consumed by the time the solution reaches the stomach so > > > > > > there is no reason to activate the sodium chlorite unless using it as a > > > > > > mouthwash or perhaps in something like a bath. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's really happening with MMS? Is sodium chlorite or chlorous > > > > > > acid or something else somehow entering the bloodstream and generating > > > > > > chlorine dioxide whenever it comes into contact with something acidic? I > > > > > > think MMS has helped me and I know it has helped my pets. I'd like to > > > > > > understand the mechanism of what is actually happening. I'm concerned > > > > > > about problems within the body such as oxidation and free radicals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2010 Report Share Posted June 27, 2010 Hello Jon, The problem with the topical solution is that the PH is low enough to cause skin irritation. You may want to cut back on the amount of citric acid used and buffer the PH of the solution to a PH of 5 or 6. With a topical attack you would actually be better off using HCl as the activator. This will release all of the available chlorine dioxide as free chlorine dioxide and allow more of it to penetrate the skin. You have to be careful to keep the concentration of chlorine dioxide below 1000 PPM free or you will bleach your skin out. Tom > > healinghope: > > Thank you. I have both the 1:5 and 1:1 Citric Acid, from different sources. > I've been using the 1:1 50% solution as it is obviously easier and quicker > as you pointed out. I order my 1:1 from PGL international - project Green > Life. Think this is/was one of Jim's suggested sources. Not sure if there > are others, but I have some raw Citric Acid powder and can make my own 1:1 > once I run out. > > I'm changing my protocol to once an hour for 10 hours and MMS2 4x a day. > Also doing MMS enemas and 10 drops MMS1 mixed with 1 tsp DMSO gel rubbed on > the skin 4 x / day. Also trying to fit in a MMS1 bath with 40 drops once a > day just for the heck of it. > > That's the goal at least. > > Thanks again for the help. Great site. Learning a lot, as well as verifying > my current understanding. > > > Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2010 Report Share Posted June 27, 2010 Hi Tom, Yes, I've experienced the "sunburned" effect on my belly already. I used too much DMSO gel the first time and laid it on too thick. Since then have watered it down a tad, and spread it on a larger area - thus thinner layer- and haven't seen any aggressive irritation since. Key seems to be a thin coating over a wide area, and alternating the areas. Once on the belly, once on the right leg, once on the left leg and then back to the belly for the last one of the day. I"m going to be buying 50% DMSO liquid shortly. Now using 70% gel. If I have any recurrence of the burning effect I will certainly look at using the HCl as you mentioned. What concentration of HCl and what ratio? 1:1? Assume I can get it at a health store in liquid form???? Appreciate your suggestions. Jon Email: jdorrough@... Personal Website: http://www.jdorrough.us Book website: http://www.jdorrough.com Alumni website http://www.kindley.us Cancer Support Group: http://groups.google.com/group/healingcancer/ RVN 67-68 From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of silverfox_scienceSent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 9:03 PM Subject: [ ] Re: New MMS Protocol Hello Jon,The problem with the topical solution is that the PH is low enough to cause skin irritation. You may want to cut back on the amount of citric acid used and buffer the PH of the solution to a PH of 5 or 6.With a topical attack you would actually be better off using HCl as the activator. This will release all of the available chlorine dioxide as free chlorine dioxide and allow more of it to penetrate the skin. You have to be careful to keep the concentration of chlorine dioxide below 1000 PPM free or you will bleach your skin out.Tom>> healinghope:> > Thank you. I have both the 1:5 and 1:1 Citric Acid, from different sources.> I've been using the 1:1 50% solution as it is obviously easier and quicker> as you pointed out. I order my 1:1 from PGL international - project Green> Life. Think this is/was one of Jim's suggested sources. Not sure if there> are others, but I have some raw Citric Acid powder and can make my own 1:1> once I run out.> > I'm changing my protocol to once an hour for 10 hours and MMS2 4x a day.> Also doing MMS enemas and 10 drops MMS1 mixed with 1 tsp DMSO gel rubbed on> the skin 4 x / day. Also trying to fit in a MMS1 bath with 40 drops once a> day just for the heck of it.> > That's the goal at least.> > Thanks again for the help. Great site. Learning a lot, as well as verifying> my current understanding.> > > Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2010 Report Share Posted June 27, 2010 Hello Jon, You can find HCl as Muriatic Acid in the hardware store. It is used to wash rocks and concrete. It comes at something around 32%. It is not safe to use this concentration because the reaction is exothermic and rather violent to the point of almost being explosive. To use HCl, you need to dilute the 32% concentration down to 6%. Also, you need to dilute your 22.4% sodium chlorite down to a 5% concentration. The reaction is rather quick so you need to mix this in an area with adequate ventilation. Put 2.5 ml of 5% sodium chlorite in a glass and add 2.5 ml of 6% HCl. Let this activate for 30 seconds or so and add enough water to make 125 ml. You will end up with a solution that has 600 PPM free chlorine dioxide. To buffer the PH add 1/16 teaspoon baking soda and mix. Be careful, this can bleach cotton. You can apply this directly to the skin. DMSO actually reduces the amount of chlorine dioxide, so I would suggest that you consider using the chlorine dioxide first, then following with DMSO if you want to do that. I believe it takes around 5 minutes to have the chlorine dioxide penetrate the skin, form chlorite, and to have chlorite circulating in your blood stream. Tom > > > > healinghope: > > > > Thank you. I have both the 1:5 and 1:1 Citric Acid, from different > sources. > > I've been using the 1:1 50% solution as it is obviously easier and quicker > > as you pointed out. I order my 1:1 from PGL international - project Green > > Life. Think this is/was one of Jim's suggested sources. Not sure if there > > are others, but I have some raw Citric Acid powder and can make my own 1:1 > > once I run out. > > > > I'm changing my protocol to once an hour for 10 hours and MMS2 4x a day. > > Also doing MMS enemas and 10 drops MMS1 mixed with 1 tsp DMSO gel rubbed > on > > the skin 4 x / day. Also trying to fit in a MMS1 bath with 40 drops once a > > day just for the heck of it. > > > > That's the goal at least. > > > > Thanks again for the help. Great site. Learning a lot, as well as > verifying > > my current understanding. > > > > > > Jon > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2010 Report Share Posted June 27, 2010 Jon!Wish you all the best, please let us know how you´r feeling during the mms treatment, and how it´s going.Sofia.From: Jon Dorrough <jdorrough@...> Sent: Sun, June 27, 2010 12:24:10 AMSubject: [ ] Re: New MMS Protocol healinghope: Thank you. I have both the 1:5 and 1:1 Citric Acid, from different sources. I've been using the 1:1 50% solution as it is obviously easier and quicker as you pointed out. I order my 1:1 from PGL international - project Green Life. Think this is/was one of Jim's suggested sources. Not sure if there are others, but I have some raw Citric Acid powder and can make my own 1:1 once I run out. I'm changing my protocol to once an hour for 10 hours and MMS2 4x a day. Also doing MMS enemas and 10 drops MMS1 mixed with 1 tsp DMSO gel rubbed on the skin 4 x / day. Also trying to fit in a MMS1 bath with 40 drops once a day just for the heck of it. That's the goal at least. Thanks again for the help. Great site. Learning a lot, as well as verifying my current understanding. Jon Email: jdorroughcox (DOT) net Personal Website: http://www.jdorrough. us Book website: http://www.jdorrough. com Alumni website http://www.kindley.us/> > ex.php> > > index.php> > >> > http://translate. google.com/ translate? hl=en> > <http://translate. google.com/ translate? hl=en & langpair=de>> > & langpair=de| en & u=http://www. | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (11) Recent Activity: New Members 14 New Files 2 Visit Your Group MARKETPLACE Stay on top of your group activity without leaving the page you're on - Get the Toolbar now. Get great advice about dogs and cats. Visit the Dog & Cat Answers Center. Hobbies & Activities Zone: Find others who share your passions! Explore new interests. Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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