RE: Re: PAID TROLLS?

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.. I will do my best to keep things on topic and be

informative in my response.

Tom

I've never seen your post any other way Tom. Certainly

in any discussion there are many varied viewpoints. Like daddybob (I have

always loved that handle btw) I'm not pro or anti mms. Everyone finds

what works for them and that is all that matters. I use mms some now,

only sparingly, because the original information of it does no harm is not

something I agree on any more. Like daddybob I am moving in new

directions. Gotta say tho, mms is da bomb when it comes to restoring a

coffee maker that is filled with hard water scale. I found a little one

cup maker at a yard sale that would not even drip. Now it works like it

was new. The gold ‘never replace’ filter in our larger machine

after soaking in mms looks brand new. That was a trick you taught me.

In all the discussions I think it is valid to discuss

problems some of us might have with the original protocols. I have seen

it so many times when anyone 'discovers' which is really re/discovers, a

protocol, there can be a bit of an inclination to not veer from the original

protocols. It's like a baby that you raise and what that baby to grow up

in a certain fashion but the kid develops as to her/his own inclinations.

Any protocol that becomes locked into a certain rigid mindset creates its own

implosion. It is by sharing all our thoughts that we evolve to a greater

understanding and more effective applications.

I did notice on the Lutheran site the protocol safely now

is...

>>>So far, at least anecdotally, the dosages of

chlorine oxides as administered orally per the acidified sodium chlorite

protocol have produced no definite toxicity. Some have taken this as often as 1

to 3 times weekly and on the surface seem to suffer no ill effects.

So the protocol has evolved substantially from everyday,

take lots, and you'll be fine. It is by the questioning, assimilating new

information, revising that we come to a broader understanding.

The thing I have learned most from you Tom is behind

every 'miracle' is a chemistry. The chemistry is not concerned with

opinions, beliefs, best guesses or wishes...it is simply the chemistry of the

protocol. Looking at the chemistry enables me to make my own informed

decisions as to what I wish to do and how I wish to proceed.

Calling you a pharma troll...well, that makes me grin.

Maybe chemistry 'nut'...obsessed with the how things work and why (and

extremely cautious, more so than me)...but that is what I love about you.

you cause me to look beyond my sacred cows and make informed decisions. My

decisions may not always mesh with yours (we know this from our private

exchanges) but the important thing is it becomes my decision...MY...and not

based on some part fact, part fantasy, part wishful thinking.

My motto stands...no sacred cows

And I'm sticking to it J

Fondly,

rose

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Chuck

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On 6/26/2010 12:11:30 PM, palulukon (palulukon@...) wrote:

>My motto stands...no sacred cows

>

>And I'm sticking to it J

>Fondly,

>rose

[Guest guest]

Tom, I would not worry much about any of the posts. People have different perceptions and experiences. Hope had hers and it worked for her. Daddybob had his and it didn't work for him.

There is room for new protocols, new experiences. THAT is how we learn and grow. If no one ever tries anything new, where would we be today? Still living in caves.

The simple fact that all protocols and products work for one but not another is well known. And though I am certainly one who rarely has any product affect my health, good or bad, I am very aware of the fragility of others and therefore, I think a safety warning for something as strong as MMS is warranted.

But we've never, on this list, said "this is the ONLY way". Anyone that comes on this list certainly gets to see BOTH sides to this whole MMS thing. I believe in full disclosure--give everyone all the facts and let them make their own decisions. If the super strength, 15 drops 3 times a day works for someone, AND the gentler 5% works for someone else, then the new person can choose which method they want to try.

I was a bit appalled at the post calling people here paid shills. I've never seen that. I have no idea why a person would say that unless they were stuck in a one mode, closed minded outlook. No one has tried to take anything away from Jim. We've all acknowledged that he brought MMS to the attention of the world, and that his way works for many. But that doesn't mean there's no room for a NEW method. Even Jim has changed his protocol, for heaven's sake. It's ALL a learning process, even for him. He adapted his process when he learned something new--as we all should.

So I have no idea why some people have felt attacked here. I've never seen it as such. You have certainly been even handed in your advice, as I have tried to be.

I hope people can just stay here, learn and grow. For the 'new' people here that didn't know, this list happened to come about simply because someone was not happy with the way the FIRST EVER MMS list was being run, because we were also talking about other methods, protocols and heck--even computers. This list was dedicated to strictly talk about MMS. So if someone wants to run off and start a new MMS that only talks about Jim's original method, or only talks about Jim's new method, or only talks about Jim's methods, period, and doesn't allow any other type of MMS protocol to be put forward, well--I think that is their right. But I, for one, will stay here, where there has been open discussion about new methods and new ways of using MMS. I have seriously enjoyed learning about cleaning coffee pots, and deodorizing rooms, right along with the rest of the stuff.

Samala,