Re: What really happens with MMS in the body

June 25, 2010

Hello Mflynn44,

It is important to understand that the reason we try to figure out how something

works is to assess the safety of using it.

Just because we don't know how it works does not mean that you can receive some

short term benefit from using it.

Once you understand how something works, you can run it by a microbiologist to

determine what the risks are.

When you are thinking like an inventor, you throw reason out the window and

brainstorm lots of ideas and combination's. Afterword, you explore what you

have " dreamed " up and see if there is any sense in any of it. This is usually

done by asking someone that knows more about what you are looking at than you

do. You then have to look at the answers given and spend time further

developing your idea.

Jim Humble followed this. When he began adding acid to sodium chlorite he

noticed a " chlorine " like odor. He was confused because the sodium chlorite was

being called stabilized oxygen. He asked chemistry people if the reaction

between acid and sodium chlorite produced oxygen. He was told that it doesn't

produce oxygen, but produces chlorine dioxide. The odor he observed was not

chlorine, but chlorine dioxide.

Jim Humble then researched chlorine dioxide and ran with that information to

develop the MMS protocol. He ignored studying how the chlorine dioxide used in

the various tests and studies was produced. I suspect that he felt that

chlorine dioxide is chlorine dioxide and if it can purify water and if the body

has lots of water in it, it must be able to purify the body too.

In his book, Jim Humble confessed that he was not the best at testing or

chemistry. This lack of experience caused him to miss what actually is going

on. While he claims to have done a lot of testing with these chemicals, he

missed a very important test. He should have questioned where all the chlorine

dioxide went when a dose of MMS is mixed up and swished in the mouth for 15 - 30

seconds, then spit back out into a glass. You start with a yellow solution that

has a strong odor and spit out a clear solution without odor. The answer to

this is that the chlorine dioxide reacted with saliva in the mouth and was used

up. I have heard it estimated that there are something like 70,000 different

germs in the mouth. That gives the chlorine dioxide a lot to work with, and

with that high a load it ends up being used up.

Jim Humble also missed the placebo effect. People who do medical treatment

testing understand that they can expect at least 30% of the test group to have a

positive response. This is why double blind studies are done. If you have 21

people in two groups and plan to give one group something that you hope works,

and the other group a placebo, you expect at least 7 people of each group will

respond favorably to the treatment. While there is nothing wrong with a placebo

improvement, simply having someone show improvement does not mean that the

treatment is effective.

I might add that with animals the placebo effect is more difficult to produce.

Double blind studies are generally not needed in animal studies.

After reviewing a lot of information on MMS, I am not sure it has reached 30%

success yet. Everyone experiences some improvement shortly after starting the

protocol, but only a few have made it to a full cure.

Jim Humbles lack of testing experience also leads him to claim 100% success. If

you feel bad, take some MMS. If you feel better afterword, you are cured.

While I think it is wonderful that people feel better, where is the follow up?

I know a few people that when they feel bad they visit the bar. After a few

drinks they feel much better. However, when they wake up the next morning, they

are back to feeling bad.

The bottom line is that no one knows what chlorous acid does inside the body.

It has not been studied.

Chlorous acid, as it breaks down, does release small amounts of chlorine

dioxide, so chlorine dioxide may play some part in how this stuff works, but

chlorine dioxide is so reactive that it doesn't last for any length of time

inside the body. The best guess that I have run across is that dilute chlorous

acid is working in the body in a similar way that dilute hydrochloric acid was

found to work in the 1930's and 1940's. Most if the information on dilute HCl

therapy refers to it being injected via IV, however there were some directions

for oral use. With HCl you have a breakdown of hydrogen and chlorine. With

chlorous acid you have hydrogen and chlorine dioxide. Since chlorine is more

stable inside the body, dilute HCl therapy may be more effective.

Unfortunately, there are no studies to look at this.

It is my hope that Dr. Hesselink will " stumble " across the difference between

chlorous acid and chlorine dioxide and take all of this to the next level.

The reason to activate is to produce a known quantity of chlorous acid. When

you ingest sodium chlorite you rely upon your stomach acid to activate it. If

you drink a glass of water first, your stomach acid can be diluted. If you

taste something bitter first, the stomach acid can be concentrated. However, if

you activate it first the stomach acid, or lack of it, has little effect on it.

Topical use is different. Unactivated sodium chlorite can provide long term

protection like deodorant. However, when you take your shoes off after walking

a few miles and your feet stink, you want immediate results and that is where

the activated solution comes into play. Those are two extremes and there are

thousands of shades of gray between them.

One of the interesting gray areas is activating with water. When you do this it

only takes a small amount of acid to complete the reaction to get some useful

chlorine dioxide. This is the principle behind the mouthwash. Keep in mind

that chlorine dioxide is a gas and it doesn't care if the organic material it

bumps into is acidic or alkaline, good or bad, it will simply react with

whatever it bumps into. The challenge is getting the correct concentration that

is right on the brink of activating, but is still stable. This results in

activation if acid is present in the mouth, or no activation if the mouth is

clean.

Chlorine dioxide, chlorous acid, chlorine, hypochlorous acid, hydrogen peroxide,

ozone and hydrochloric acid are all oxidizers. When they are used, free

radicals are produced. When " playing " with these chemicals you need to be aware

of that and you need to figure a way to deal with them through the use of anti

oxidants.

Tom

--- In , " mflynn44 " <mflynn44@...>

wrote:

>

> Tom...

> Thank you for your infinite patience regarding all these questions about MMS.

Would you comment on the following?

>

> My understanding is the chlorine dioxide generated in activated MMS is

probably consumed by the time the solution reaches the stomach so there is no

reason to activate the sodium chlorite unless using it as a mouthwash or perhaps

in something like a bath.

>

> What's really happening with MMS? Is sodium chlorite or chlorous acid or

something else somehow entering the bloodstream and generating chlorine dioxide

whenever it comes into contact with something acidic? I think MMS has helped me

and I know it has helped my pets. I'd like to understand the mechanism of what

is actually happening. I'm concerned about problems within the body such as

oxidation and free radicals.

>

June 25, 2010

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> Hello Mflynn44,

>

> It is important to understand that the reason we try to figure out how

something works is to assess the safety of using it.

>

> Just because we don't know how it works does not mean that you can receive

some short term benefit from using it.

>

> Once you understand how something works, you can run it by a microbiologist to