Re: rainwater catchment tank

[Guest guest]

Hello Agnes,

Chlorine dioxide is an excellent water purifier.

In an effort to keep the concentrations down to a safe level, you would probably

want to use 15% sodium chlorite and 16.5% hydrochloric acid.

In general, a 14000 gallon tank full of water would need about 1 liter of each.

You would mix 1 liter of 15% sodium chlorite and 1 liter of 16.5% HCl, then add

that to the water tank. That will give you 14000 gallons of water with about

1.75 PPM free chlorine dioxide in it. At these higher chemical concentrations

the reaction is more aggressive so caution should be used when mixing, and avoid

the fumes.

There may need to be some adjustment to account for specific conditions, but

these concentrations usually work very well at keeping things from growing in

the tank.

The advantage to using chlorine dioxide is that no chlorination by products are

produced. The plants will be getting water that is purer than that in which

bleach was used to disinfect. In addition, as soon as the chlorine dioxide

water is exposed to UV light, the chlorine dioxide will be driven off and the

plants will be getting pure water.

The down side is that sodium chlorite + HCl + the labor of mixing it and adding

it end up being more expensive than simply pouring bleach into the water, and

there is the added step of activation.

Public water systems use chlorine because it is cheap.

Industry uses chlorine dioxide because it is more effective. The pass the extra

cost on to the customer.

Tom

>

> Tom,

> Could you answer a question for me. Our daughter and son-in-law

> have a catchment tank of about 14,0000 gallons. They put in about 32 oz of

regular bleach every month(30 fluid oz for every 10,000 gallons).

> They live in the country in Laupahoehoe,Hawaii up from Hilo. Purpose is to

keep any growth at 0. Tank is two years old and keeps relatively clean.

>

> Would MMS be a preferred choice in this case. Or would you suggest

> a different kind of chlorine from regular one bought at the grocery store?

> He has a watering system that trickles water to his plants from the water

tank. Not sure whether MMS or chlorine would be better.

> Thank you,

> Aagnes

>

[Guest guest]

Trans,

Interesting. I am in , Tx and last Tuesday, i seem to have smelled oil in

the air after a rainfall the night before. Am now wondering if the oil rain in

Louisiana got here as well. But now it has been raining since Tuesday night and

is still raining until now, but no oil smell.

There was a post that a scientist said that this spill will eventually be in all

oceans in 18 months. I watched the Lindsey YouTube and he said the spill is 4

million barrels a day, Gulp! Another scientist said It will affect our oxygen

supply (dangerous level is 12% and below, we are not too far from it, i forgot

15-25%?). It will affect the atmosphere, rain, water supply, vegetation and

animals. It is a chain reaction from the pollution in the atmosphere. Aren't

they so clever? Of course it will affect the air we breathe.

I just now remember when W was exiting, some W administration people were

reported to have bought up all the emergency supplies of food, etc. and the

manufacturers said it was not delivered to relief agencies but were for personal

use? HHHmmmm, i wonder why.

Are any of the above claims true?

Aetheists, please don't proceed to read below.

There is no where to turn to but PRAYER! Those who believe in God no matter what

religious belief you have, please PRAY (on your knees, if possible) and bombard

heaven to help us, the innocent victims. This is seriuos stuff folks.

> > Chlorine dioxide is an excellent water purifier.

>

> Hi Tom,

>

> I'm curious if you can answer this...

>

> What about water that is contaminated with toxic chemicals, including

> specifically:

>

> Oil+Corexit 9500

>

> If ClO2 won't do it, what about the Berkey water filters?

>

> It is raining oil in Louisiana, people. Florida will probably be in the

> dead zone within a few months, if not less. If you know anyone living

> there, tell them to get out now while they can.

>

> This is an act of outright war by the money powers. They are tired of

> waiting, and have initiated the trigger to bring about one world government.

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Tanstaafl,

It is interesting you should ask... You aren't the only one asking that

question.

Chlorine dioxide is used in drilling to eliminate hydrogen sulfide and other

toxic gases. It does a great job of doing that, but it does not remove oil from

water. We have been doing some tests on this and it seems that if you set up a

sand filter to do a pre-filter, whatever is left will be pretty much be removed

with chlorine dioxide. The process is a little involved and basically starts

with the sand filter, goes to a holding area where flocculants are added, then

goes through aeration, and the final stage is disinfection using chlorine

dioxide.

Chlorine dioxide is also very good at removing hazardous odors from the air. If

someone is noticing foul odors inside their house as a result of the fumes being

blown inland, it was be best to vacate the area and find fresh air. However, if

the odor is only at a " nuisance " level and has not reached a concentration where

it is hazardous, you could mix up some sodium chlorite in water and fog the area

to get it under control. This would be similar to fogging a chicken coop.

Obviously, air quality testing would be needed to make sure things are not

getting out of control. A potential problem with this is that you could create

a safe area inside your house, and have a hazardous build up outside. When you

step outside, you may die.

With air currents freely flowing, the usual case is the opposite. The house

provides a stagnant area where concentrations can build up. Many of these

chemicals have an odor threshold that is below their toxic threshold, so there

is some warning before you get into trouble, but odor thresholds vary between

people and it is best to test the air quality with a calibrated device.

If you have ever been down wind of an oil refinery you will know that there are

a lot of odors that are unpleasant, but are not supposed to be at a level that

is harmful.

On a side note... Chlorine dioxide has been successfully used to control algae

blooms. When the oil eating bacteria get into full swing, they will deplete the

water of oxygen and form an algae bloom. It may be possible to use chlorine

dioxide to kill off the algae and then normal wave action and currents may be

able to re-oxygenate the water. I sent this information to the clean up efforts

as a possible suggestion for clean up. While it has been used in holding ponds,

I don't think it has ever been attempted in open water. Oh well, they were

asking for ideas and I just threw one out.

Tom

> > Chlorine dioxide is an excellent water purifier.

>

> Hi Tom,

>

> I'm curious if you can answer this...

>

> What about water that is contaminated with toxic chemicals, including

> specifically:

>

> Oil+Corexit 9500

>

> If ClO2 won't do it, what about the Berkey water filters?

>

> It is raining oil in Louisiana, people. Florida will probably be in the

> dead zone within a few months, if not less. If you know anyone living

> there, tell them to get out now while they can.

>

> This is an act of outright war by the money powers. They are tired of

> waiting, and have initiated the trigger to bring about one world government.

>