Re: MMS- 5% protocol versus MMS-1 on a 1-1 ratio

[Guest guest]

Just to make sure. Activation time for the 1-1 ratio also for MMS-5 and 10%CA is 10 minutes. Right?

What happens if it stays a little longer? Let's say 12 minutes? Does it loose effect?

From: Arie Alon <maculeleh@...> Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 1:38:31 PMSubject: [ ] MMS- 5% protocol versus MMS-1 on a 1-1 ratio

Hi Tom,

Would the MMS 5% of one drop MMS-5 and one drop of 10% citric acid, have the same protocol as Jim's, i.e, taking it about every two hours?

Up to how many drops per dose?

How long in days/weeks?

If I remenber well, MMS-5 won't cause any oxidation stress and damages. Is this correct?

What about undesirable chlorite and chlorous acid in the body?

Now if taking MMS-1 at one drop with one drop of 10% citric acid, how would you compare it with MMS-5 regarding effectivenes, oxidation stress, damages, etc.

Which of the two methods is prefered?

It is interesting to note that some minutes after taking MMS-1 I feel a kind of energetic feeling on my head, as if it is filled with oxygen. Would this be undisirable chlorite?

The overall feeling is being more energetic and sleeping less at hours at night, i.e. waking up one/two hours earlier, but at the end of the day feeling more tired.

In addition I start feeling some nervounesness, i.e, a little trembling. Would this mean it is affecting the nervous system?

By the way, my urinary trackt ultrasound came out fine and nothing was found.

Thank You,

Arie

[Guest guest]

Hello Arie,

I am not a medical professional, so you will have to take up doses with the

experts on your medical team.

5% sodium chlorite is much safer to handle than the 22.4% solution. This does

not mean that it is completely safe. You can suffer oxidative stress from the

5% solution too.

Let's go back to the hydrogen peroxide example... Can you treat a cut with 35%

hydrogen peroxide, yes, but you have to be very careful handling it. Can you

treat a cut with 3% hydrogen peroxide, yes. It is a much safer concentration to

use.

Can you suffer oxidative stress from drinking a bottle of 35% hydrogen peroxide,

yes.

Can you suffer oxidative stress from drinking a bottle of 3% hydrogen peroxide,

yes.

As you can see, we have two different concentrations of the same chemical. The

lower concentration is much safer to handle and store, but it can still do

damage to tissue.

The same goes for sodium chlorite. In the air, chlorine dioxide at a

concentration of 5 PPM can cause respiratory distress. The 5% sodium chlorite

has 50000 PPM of available chlorine dioxide. As you can see, this is more than

enough to do damage.

Chlorite in the body is a direct result of ingesting or absorbing sodium

chlorite products, in any form. This includes disinfecting cuts with a spray

solution and using a mouthwash solution. When you come into contact with

chlorine dioxide, chlorites are formed and enter the body. When in the body,

chlorites find there way into all the organs of the body, including the brain,

and in high concentrations they can do damage. It appears that the first signs

of damage are fragile red blood cells, followed by a reduction in blood cell

volume.

1 drop of 22.4% sodium chlorite activated with 10% citric acid and diluted with

125 ml of water will give you a concentration of about 63 PPM available chlorine

dioxide with about 6 PPM of that as free chlorine dioxide. To achieve the same

concentration using 5% sodium chlorite, you would use 0.26 ml.

I don't know what is going on with your head, but more energy is good and

increased nervousness is not good.

It must be a great relief to know that your urinary tract doesn't have any

obvious issues. A good diet should keep it that way.

Tom

--- In , Arie Alon <maculeleh@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Tom,

>  

> Would the MMS 5%  of one drop MMS-5 and one drop of 10% citric acid, have the

same protocol as Jim's, i.e, taking it about every two hours?

> Up to how many drops per dose?

> How long in days/weeks?

> If I remenber well, MMS-5 won't cause any oxidation stress and damages. Is

this correct?

>  

> What about undesirable chlorite and chlorous acid in the body?

>  

> Now if taking MMS-1 at one drop with one drop of 10% citric acid, how would

you compare it with MMS-5 regarding effectivenes, oxidation stress, damages,

etc.

>  

> Which of the two methods is prefered?

>  

> It is interesting to note that some minutes after taking MMS-1 I feel a kind

of energetic feeling on my head, as if it is filled with oxygen. Would this be

undisirable chlorite?

> The overall feeling is being more energetic and sleeping less at hours at

night, i.e. waking up one/two hours earlier, but at the end of the day feeling

more tired.

> In addition I start feeling some nervounesness, i.e, a little trembling. Would

this mean it is affecting the nervous system?

>  

> By the way, my urinary trackt ultrasound came out fine and nothing was found. 

>  

> Thank You,

>  

> Arie

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Arie,

Yes, 10 minutes is the optimum activation time.

After 10 minutes it will begin gassing off. During that process it will loose

some strength, but a few minutes will not amount to a significant loss in

strength.

Tom

--- In , Arie Alon <maculeleh@...>

wrote:

>

> Just to make sure. Activation time for the 1-1 ratio also for MMS-5 and 10%CA

is 10 minutes. Right?

>

> What happens if it stays a little longer? Let's say 12 minutes? Does it loose

effect?

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Arie Alon <maculeleh@...>

>

> Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 1:38:31 PM

> Subject: [ ] MMS- 5% protocol versus MMS-1 on a 1-1

ratio

>

>  

> Hi Tom,

>  

> Would the MMS 5%  of one drop MMS-5 and one drop of 10% citric acid, have the

same protocol as Jim's, i.e, taking it about every two hours?

> Up to how many drops per dose?

> How long in days/weeks?

> If I remenber well, MMS-5 won't cause any oxidation stress and damages. Is

this correct?

>  

> What about undesirable chlorite and chlorous acid in the body?

>  

> Now if taking MMS-1 at one drop with one drop of 10% citric acid, how would

you compare it with MMS-5 regarding effectivenes, oxidation stress, damages,

etc.

>  

> Which of the two methods is prefered?

>  

> It is interesting to note that some minutes after taking MMS-1 I feel a kind

of energetic feeling on my head, as if it is filled with oxygen. Would this be

undisirable chlorite?

> The overall feeling is being more energetic and sleeping less at hours at

night, i.e. waking up one/two hours earlier, but at the end of the day feeling

more tired.

> In addition I start feeling some nervounesness, i.e, a little trembling. Would

this mean it is affecting the nervous system?

>  

> By the way, my urinary trackt ultrasound came out fine and nothing was

found. 

>  

> Thank You,

>  

> Arie

>  

>  

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Tom,

In case you experienced MMS-5 on yourself and/or friends, I will appreciate if you could share your findings.

How many times daily, how many drops and for how long.

What where the results. What issues where targeted.

Thank you,

Arie

From: silverfox_science <poast@...> Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 7:37:26 PMSubject: [ ] Re: MMS- 5% protocol versus MMS-1 on a 1-1 ratio

Hello Arie,I am not a medical professional, so you will have to take up doses with the experts on your medical team.5% sodium chlorite is much safer to handle than the 22.4% solution. This does not mean that it is completely safe. You can suffer oxidative stress from the 5% solution too. Let's go back to the hydrogen peroxide example... Can you treat a cut with 35% hydrogen peroxide, yes, but you have to be very careful handling it. Can you treat a cut with 3% hydrogen peroxide, yes. It is a much safer concentration to use.Can you suffer oxidative stress from drinking a bottle of 35% hydrogen peroxide, yes.Can you suffer oxidative stress from drinking a bottle of 3% hydrogen peroxide, yes.As you can see, we have two different concentrations of the same chemical. The lower concentration is much safer to handle and store, but it can still do damage to tissue.The same goes for sodium chlorite.

In the air, chlorine dioxide at a concentration of 5 PPM can cause respiratory distress. The 5% sodium chlorite has 50000 PPM of available chlorine dioxide. As you can see, this is more than enough to do damage.Chlorite in the body is a direct result of ingesting or absorbing sodium chlorite products, in any form. This includes disinfecting cuts with a spray solution and using a mouthwash solution. When you come into contact with chlorine dioxide, chlorites are formed and enter the body. When in the body, chlorites find there way into all the organs of the body, including the brain, and in high concentrations they can do damage. It appears that the first signs of damage are fragile red blood cells, followed by a reduction in blood cell volume.1 drop of 22.4% sodium chlorite activated with 10% citric acid and diluted with 125 ml of water will give you a concentration of about 63 PPM available chlorine dioxide with about 6 PPM of that as

free chlorine dioxide. To achieve the same concentration using 5% sodium chlorite, you would use 0.26 ml.I don't know what is going on with your head, but more energy is good and increased nervousness is not good.It must be a great relief to know that your urinary tract doesn't have any obvious issues. A good diet should keep it that way.Tom>> Hi Tom,> > Would the MMS 5% of one drop MMS-5 and one drop of 10% citric acid, have the same protocol as Jim's, i.e, taking it about every two hours?> Up to how many drops per dose? > How long in days/weeks?> If I remenber well, MMS-5 won't cause any oxidation stress and damages. Is

this correct?> > What about undesirable chlorite and chlorous acid in the body?> > Now if taking MMS-1 at one drop with one drop of 10% citric acid, how would you compare it with MMS-5 regarding effectivenes, oxidation stress, damages, etc.> > Which of the two methods is prefered?> > It is interesting to note that some minutes after taking MMS-1 I feel a kind of energetic feeling on my head, as if it is filled with oxygen. Would this be undisirable chlorite?> The overall feeling is being more energetic and sleeping less at hours at night, i.e. waking up one/two hours earlier, but at the end of the day feeling more tired.> In addition I start feeling some nervounesness, i.e, a little trembling. Would this mean it is affecting the nervous system?> > By the way, my urinary trackt ultrasound came out fine and nothing was found. >

> Thank You,> > Arie>

[Guest guest]

Hello Arie,

Nothing spectacular to report, but we have had a few successes and a few

failures.

I advise people to listen to their bodies and to adjust the amount of chemicals

used according to their weight and activity level. The more active you are, and

the more mass you have, the larger the amount of chemicals that are needed.

Let's start with the failures...

Brain cancer seems to be very difficult to oxidize, as does ALS. MS seems to

have a life of its own. Sometimes oxidation helps, and many times it makes

things much worse. When things get " dialed in " oxidation greatly improves the

quality of life for someone with MS, but dialing things in is like shooting at a

rapidly moving target. Some success with this, but mostly failure. Alzheimer's

doesn't seem to respond to oxidation. Hep C is very difficult. You can control

symptoms, but an actual cure seems to be elusive. Kidney and liver cancer are

very difficult.

To be fair, a lot of people on this list have passed away. This means that they

were pretty far along before beginning oxidation therapy.

The successes include ear infections, sinus infections, skin infections, MRSA

infections, animal and insect bite infection, nail fungus, heart valve

infection, improved oral hygiene, sensitive teeth, bad breath, heat rash, mold

allergy, sick room, pretty good results with skin cancer, burn care, urinary

tract infections, vaginal and cervical infections, teat infections (goats and

cows), gill disease (fish), kennel cough, if you catch it early enough cat and

dog kidney shut down, and we have helped a few people keep their " digits " from

being amputated due to diabetic complications.

My part in all of this has been to provide solid science involving the chemistry

involved. In most cases I am part of a team that includes a medical

professional (either human or animal).

We have one case right now that is only a partial success. We are working with

a dog that is 16 years old and has been hit by a car and run over by a car in

his younger years. The dog is having a difficult time moving his hind quarters.

A couple of months ago, he would just lay down and sleep all the time, sometimes

not even getting up to relieve himself. A couple of months after adding some

sodium chlorite to his drinking water, he is alert, talkative, but still is

having problems with his hind quarters. I don't know if we can get the hind

quarters to function closer to normal, but the owner is thrilled with the

improvements, and that is good enough for me.

Tom

--- In , Arie Alon <maculeleh@...>

wrote:

>

> Hello Tom,

>

> In case you experienced MMS-5 on yourself and/or friends, I will appreciate if

you could share your findings.

> How many times daily, how many drops and for how long.

> What where the results. What issues where targeted.

>

> Thank you,

>

> Arie

[Guest guest]

Tom, as a Tellington TTouch practitioner, I would suggest that either

Tellington TTouch or CranioSacral therapy could help this elderly dog with

its hind end function. I have seen amazing results with both these

modalities. With the history of injuries and its age, you may not get 100%

function returned but I would be very surprised if there wasn't significant

benefit.

Carole in Oz

Eideann & Fionn (Tristania GSDs)

carole@...

www.berigorafarm.com.au

>

> Hello Arie,

>

> Nothing spectacular to report, but we have had a few successes and a few

> failures.

>

> I advise people to listen to their bodies and to adjust the amount of

> chemicals used according to their weight and activity level. The more

> active you are, and the more mass you have, the larger the amount of

> chemicals that are needed.

>

> Let's start with the failures...

>

> Brain cancer seems to be very difficult to oxidize, as does ALS. MS seems

> to have a life of its own. Sometimes oxidation helps, and many times it

> makes things much worse. When things get " dialed in " oxidation greatly

> improves the quality of life for someone with MS, but dialing things in is

> like shooting at a rapidly moving target. Some success with this, but

> mostly failure. Alzheimer's doesn't seem to respond to oxidation. Hep C

> is very difficult. You can control symptoms, but an actual cure seems to

> be elusive. Kidney and liver cancer are very difficult.

>

> To be fair, a lot of people on this list have passed away. This means

> that they were pretty far along before beginning oxidation therapy.

>

> The successes include ear infections, sinus infections, skin infections,

> MRSA infections, animal and insect bite infection, nail fungus, heart

> valve infection, improved oral hygiene, sensitive teeth, bad breath, heat

> rash, mold allergy, sick room, pretty good results with skin cancer, burn

> care, urinary tract infections, vaginal and cervical infections, teat

> infections (goats and cows), gill disease (fish), kennel cough, if you

> catch it early enough cat and dog kidney shut down, and we have helped a

> few people keep their " digits " from being amputated due to diabetic

> complications.

>

> My part in all of this has been to provide solid science involving the

> chemistry involved. In most cases I am part of a team that includes a

> medical professional (either human or animal).

>

> We have one case right now that is only a partial success. We are working

> with a dog that is 16 years old and has been hit by a car and run over by

> a car in his younger years. The dog is having a difficult time moving his

> hind quarters. A couple of months ago, he would just lay down and sleep

> all the time, sometimes not even getting up to relieve himself. A couple

> of months after adding some sodium chlorite to his drinking water, he is

> alert, talkative, but still is having problems with his hind quarters. I

> don't know if we can get the hind quarters to function closer to normal,

> but the owner is thrilled with the improvements, and that is good enough

> for me.

>

> Tom

>

>

>

>

>>

>> Hello Tom,

>>

>> In case you experienced MMS-5 on yourself and/or friends, I will

>> appreciate if you could share your findings.

>> How many times daily, how many drops and for how long.

>> What where the results. What issues where targeted.

>>

>> Thank you,

>>

>> Arie

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hello Carole,

Thank you very much. I will pass that information on.

Tom

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> >> Hello Tom,

> >>

> >> In case you experienced MMS-5 on yourself and/or friends, I will

> >> appreciate if you could share your findings.

> >> How many times daily, how many drops and for how long.

> >> What where the results. What issues where targeted.

> >>

> >> Thank you,

> >>

> >> Arie

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