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Have you ever heard of BHT as a powerful antioxidant. My doctor

suggested giving it to Jack. It is noted for wiping out herpes

viruses. Can it be used on a mercury toxic individual? It is sold

by www.lifelinknet.com. Is it an antioxidant?

Thanks,

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I have heard this but haven't researched it and odon't know about

safety.

Some other things known to inhibit herpes include:

lysine and-

Monolaurin has been found to be effective in treating enveloped DNA

and RNA viruses such as those in the herpes family, influenzas,

paramyxoviruses, rubeola, and several others. It is not effective in

treating non-enveloped viruses such as polio, coxsakie, rotaviruses,

etc.

If you contact Ecological Formulas at 1-800-888-4585 they can send

you the references to the research done on monolaurin and EBV, CMV,

influenza, etc. In their literature they explain how the lauric acid

binds to the lipid-protein envelop of the virus, thereby inactivating

it. Additionally, it is alleged that lauric acid (monolaurin)

inhibits the replication of viruses by interrupting the binding of

the virus to the host cells.

Bernie

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If anyone is interested in the link below www.lifelinknet.com do not

put the last period on as stated below because some foul words come

up. Just type it in as above and you get to the link for lifelink,

Leah

-- In @y..., Bernard Windham <berniew1@e...> wrote:

>

> Have you ever heard of BHT as a powerful antioxidant. My doctor

> suggested giving it to Jack. It is noted for wiping out herpes

> viruses. Can it be used on a mercury toxic individual? It is sold

> by www.lifelinknet.com. Is it an antioxidant?

> Thanks,

> ********************

> I have heard this but haven't researched it and odon't know

about

> safety.

> Some other things known to inhibit herpes include:

>

> lysine and-

> Monolaurin has been found to be effective in treating enveloped DNA

> and RNA viruses such as those in the herpes family, influenzas,

> paramyxoviruses, rubeola, and several others. It is not effective

in

> treating non-enveloped viruses such as polio, coxsakie, rotaviruses,

> etc.

>

> If you contact Ecological Formulas at 1-800-888-4585 they can send

> you the references to the research done on monolaurin and EBV, CMV,

> influenza, etc. In their literature they explain how the lauric

acid

> binds to the lipid-protein envelop of the virus, thereby

inactivating

> it. Additionally, it is alleged that lauric acid (monolaurin)

> inhibits the replication of viruses by interrupting the binding of

> the virus to the host cells.

>

> Bernie

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If monolaurin kills the herpes virus and assuming my

son has this virus.........it would then

explain why everytime I have used this product with him

he has gone berzerk.

What do I do?

.

P.S. thank you to all who responded to my post about

the herpes simplex 1 virus.

My son's cold sore is getting better. I have been treating

him with oil of oregano and olive leaf extract.

His OCDs are slightly higher and he does not seem like himself.

Also he has an itch on his private area but there is no burning

when he pees. I have just put some polysporin on it to

help with the itching.

It seems that when I use oil of oregano in a more aggressive

manner to treat infection ........he seems to develop an itch

in his private area.

-- Re: herpes

Roxanne,

From what I understand....monolaurin does kill herpes virus.Check with Dr.

Kabara.

R

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I think Lauricidin is also supposed to be good for this.

www.lauricidin.com

[ ] herpes

> Would lysine help? Four years ago, our high school wrestler got a

> nasty case of herpes and staph from his headgear. It took ages to

> diagnose and get rid of. Even the valtrex was did not seem to rid it

> as quickly as I'd hoped. It was near eyes and in mouth yuk! He no

> longer wrestles but tends to break out with these weepy clumps that

> eventually crust over once a year or so. We've had good luck dosing

> him with lysine, 1 gm, a couple of times per day. It seems to stop

> the outbreak in its tracks after a couple of days. We also use vit

> C. B.

>

>

>

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AHA. I thought so. It's been about 8 months, , I thought you'd

dropped off the earth.

Thanks so much for reporting in. People will benefit from this,

it's the first Herpes-simplex 2 data we have!!! exciting stuff.

All the herpes forums should be notified about this.

I'll post to our files, well done, !!

You're now officially an Apprentice Ziller, congratulations. Your

next step is to become a Journeyman by working up solutions for

others, which will benefit everyone..the beat goes on.

Again, very good job, ,

bob

>

> The subject of herpes is on the menu lately on Beck-n-stuff so

I'll thro my hat in the ring .

> For the last 30 yrs. I've been dealing with below the belt herpes

that I picked up at TV station I worked at in the 70's . It was

located about 6 " below my butt , about the size of a quarter. About

8mo's ago I treated it with the Godzilla by simply placeing one

electrode on the outbreak and one on the surrounding skin. Well that

was 8 mo's ago and it's been gone for 8 mo's . It would allway's

flare up when I had to endure some stress of some sort. Well I've

had plenty of stress since then and NO herpes!! The flareup would

always consist of -redness - then blisters-then oozing - then

scabbing and then finally healing , all the while a burning

sensation. I almost forgot about it untill some one on the Beck

group mentioned it . It's GONE !! I'm stoked !! McCleary

>

>

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Congrats!

Could you give us more info on your technique. How long did you leave the

electrodes in place, did you rotate them and if so how frequently. Did you wet

the electrodes first. How many different treatments, once a day or more? How

many days did you treat?

Thanks for the information,

Deborah

baby_grand <bobluhrs@...> wrote:

AHA. I thought so. It's been about 8 months, , I thought you'd

dropped off the earth.

Thanks so much for reporting in. People will benefit from this,

it's the first Herpes-simplex 2 data we have!!! exciting stuff.

All the herpes forums should be notified about this.

I'll post to our files, well done, !!

You're now officially an Apprentice Ziller, congratulations. Your

next step is to become a Journeyman by working up solutions for

others, which will benefit everyone..the beat goes on.

Again, very good job, ,

bob

>

> The subject of herpes is on the menu lately on Beck-n-stuff so

I'll thro my hat in the ring .

> For the last 30 yrs. I've been dealing with below the belt herpes

that I picked up at TV station I worked at in the 70's . It was

located about 6 " below my butt , about the size of a quarter. About

8mo's ago I treated it with the Godzilla by simply placeing one

electrode on the outbreak and one on the surrounding skin. Well that

was 8 mo's ago and it's been gone for 8 mo's . It would allway's

flare up when I had to endure some stress of some sort. Well I've

had plenty of stress since then and NO herpes!! The flareup would

always consist of -redness - then blisters-then oozing - then

scabbing and then finally healing , all the while a burning

sensation. I almost forgot about it untill some one on the Beck

group mentioned it . It's GONE !! I'm stoked !! McCleary

>

>

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Thanks. I posted this addition to your herpes2 writeup in our files,

.

Yes, of course it will help. Dude, you just broke herpes2. It

appears to be repeatable and stable. That is earth-shattering news.

The world definitely needed to know about this.

Folks, read our files, please, lots of stuff there which is similarly

stunning.

You will see it in full clarity when you use it for yourself, of

course there's no way to get as stoked as here, unless you

actually do it on self or another. Then you are in for an awakening

that is hard to describe.

Meanwhile, to encourage you, I've put these things into our files

section.

bG

>

> Hi, I simply wet the electrodes , place one on the site of the

outbreak , the other on the surrounding skin for about 20 mins. at

2ma. current , this unit is a 9v with pot & meter. I have 1 " square

carbon / silacon pads with cotton batting sewn over them . I think a

bit of dish soap in the solution helps to wet out the pads faster.

Some on this list feel that the virus hangs out in the end of your

spine so I also treated that area too. I don't know what you mean

by " rotate the electrodes " . , because the outbreak was on the back

of my leg I would treat it just before turning out the lights at nite

for about 20 mins. for only about 4 nites . Becaues of the nature of

this virus, ; turning red to healing takes about one week , my plan

was to treat it again the next time it flared up , well it never has

bothered me since so I'm STOKED !!!!!! McCleary Hope this

helps.

>

>

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Hard to argue with success .

Jack

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Hi, I simply wet the electrodes , place one on the site of the outbreak ,

the other on the surrounding skin for about 20 mins. at 2ma. current , this

unit is a 9v with pot & meter. I have 1 " square carbon / silacon pads with

cotton batting sewn over them . I think a bit of dish soap in the solution

helps to wet out the pads faster. Some on this list feel that the virus

hangs out in the end of your spine so I also treated that area too. I don't

know what you mean by " rotate the electrodes " . , because the outbreak was

on the back of my leg I would treat it just before turning out the lights at

nite for about 20 mins. for only about 4 nites . Becaues of the nature of

this virus, ; turning red to healing takes about one week , my plan was to

treat it again the next time it flared up , well it never has bothered me

since so I'm STOKED !!!!!! McCleary Hope this helps.

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,

Thank you for the details. This is the kind of information that will help

other treat conditions.

By rotating the electrodes I meant switching the positions of the electrodes.

Assuming a treatment site using electrode A in one place and electrode B at

another place, then after a certain time period, B is placed where A was and A

is placed where B was. Per the method noted in BG materials.

Thanks again for the details of your treatment

Deborah

<fandsmccleary@...> wrote:

Hi, I simply wet the electrodes , place one on the site of the outbreak , the

other on the surrounding skin for about 20 mins. at 2ma. current , this unit is

a 9v with pot & meter. I have 1 " square carbon / silacon pads with cotton

batting sewn over them . I think a bit of dish soap in the solution helps to wet

out the pads faster. Some on this list feel that the virus hangs out in the end

of your spine so I also treated that area too. I don't know what you mean by "

rotate the electrodes " . , because the outbreak was on the back of my leg I

would treat it just before turning out the lights at nite for about 20 mins. for

only about 4 nites . Becaues of the nature of this virus, ; turning red to

healing takes about one week , my plan was to treat it again the next time it

flared up , well it never has bothered me since so I'm STOKED !!!!!!

McCleary Hope this helps.

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from the beginning i told you that the immune system is functioning better and

when it does your body fight the viruses and therefore you are tired.people

with cfs are mostly full of viruses.there is a protocol with high doses vit c to

get the viruses out your system you can contact me if you are intrested.if not

contact dr van meerendonk ,he is expert to get viruses out the body.

>

> Goodmorning,

>

> After using 4,5mg LDN for 3 weeks now I experienced fatigue and setbacks, so 4

days back I decided to take a step back to 3 mg.. Since yesterday I have herpes

above my mouth, which I haven't had for over two years now. Can LDN in general

be related to temporarely this herpes? And / or does the step back to 3 mg has

anything to do with this herpes?

>

> Regards and thanks for the answers.

>

> Joris

>

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Zahavi,

Okay, very clear. I understand.

I'm already van Meerendonk's patient for almost two years now. He treated me with Proboost, Crotalus, Immpower, Vit. C, etc. plus Zelitrex. The next step was / is LDN. So I'm virusfree, but as you said, my immunesystem now probably is getting help from from the LDN and is fighting remains of virusses and, such as Herpes etc. and is building my immunesystem to a higher level. Am I right ???..

Thnx.

J

From: zahavi <zahavi100@...>low dose naltrexone Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:37:19 AMSubject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Herpes

from the beginning i told you that the immune system is functioning better and when it does your body fight the viruses and therefore you are tired.people with cfs are mostly full of viruses.there is a protocol with high doses vit c to get the viruses out your system you can contact me if you are intrested.if not contact dr van meerendonk ,he is expert to get viruses out the body.>> Goodmorning,> > After using 4,5mg LDN for 3 weeks now I experienced fatigue and setbacks, so 4 days back I decided to take a step back to 3 mg.. Since yesterday I have herpes above my mouth, which I haven't had for over two years now. Can LDN in general be related to temporarely this herpes? And /

or does the step back to 3 mg has anything to do with this herpes?> > Regards and thanks for the answers.> > Joris>

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my understanding is that ldn gives the immune system a correction.modulaing in

other words .with cfs patients it is beginning to fight the viruses which it did

not do before.with auto-immune it stops attacking the body.therefore i believe

you get tired because of the fight.if i was you i would go again with vit c

until bowl tolerancy and stays there for 3 weeks to help the body get rid of the

rest of the viruses.i wish you success.i am glad to learn that your doctor

prescribe ldn.

> >

> > Goodmorning,

> >

> > After using 4,5mg LDN for 3 weeks now I experienced fatigue and setbacks,

so 4 days back I decided to take a step back to 3 mg.. Since yesterday I have

herpes above my mouth, which I haven't had for over two years now. Can LDN in

general be related to temporarely this herpes? And / or does the step back to 3

mg has anything to do with this herpes?

> >

> > Regards and thanks for the answers.

> >

> > Joris

> >

>

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Zahavi,

Thanks for your advice. I already started vit. C 4 x 2000mg per day because of you directions and of van Meerendonk's. I'm with you now and understand completely. I'm fighting my way trough now the next couple of months.

J

From: zahavi <zahavi100@...>low dose naltrexone Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 8:06:30 PMSubject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Herpes

my understanding is that ldn gives the immune system a correction.modulain g in other words .with cfs patients it is beginning to fight the viruses which it did not do before.with auto-immune it stops attacking the body.therefore i believe you get tired because of the fight.if i was you i would go again with vit c until bowl tolerancy and stays there for 3 weeks to help the body get rid of the rest of the viruses.i wish you success.i am glad to learn that your doctor prescribe ldn.> >> > Goodmorning,> > > > After using 4,5mg LDN for 3 weeks now I experienced fatigue and setbacks, so 4 days back I decided to take a step back to 3 mg.. Since yesterday I have herpes above my mouth, which I haven't had for over two years now. Can LDN in general be related to temporarely this herpes? And / or does the step back to 3 mg has anything to do with this herpes?> > > > Regards and thanks for the answers.> > > > Joris> >>

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i wish you success and let us know how it goes.it might help many with cfs or

people that walk around with viruses in their body.

it is nice to see that van meerendonk and i are of the same mind.

> > >

> > > Goodmorning,

> > >

> > > After using 4,5mg LDN for 3 weeks now I experienced fatigue and setbacks,

so 4 days back I decided to take a step back to 3 mg.. Since yesterday I have

herpes above my mouth, which I haven't had for over two years now. Can LDN in

general be related to temporarely this herpes? And / or does the step back to 3

mg has anything to do with this herpes?

> > >

> > > Regards and thanks for the answers.

> > >

> > > Joris

> > >

> >

>

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Zahavi,

Am I right and are you an M.D. or do you have all your knowledge by experience trough the years etc.?

I will surely keep the group up to date with my CFS / LDN experciene. I'm one of the few man who has it in this age-group (30 years). Thus I realize the essence of my testimonial..

Thanks again.

Greetz from the Netherlands, Doetinchem.

Have a nice weekend!

Joris

From: zahavi <zahavi100@...>low dose naltrexone Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 6:32:06 PMSubject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Herpes

i wish you success and let us know how it goes.it might help many with cfs or people that walk around with viruses in their body.it is nice to see that van meerendonk and i are of the same mind.> > >> > > Goodmorning,> > > > > > After using 4,5mg LDN for 3 weeks now I experienced fatigue and setbacks, so 4 days back I decided to take a step back to 3 mg.. Since yesterday I have herpes above my mouth, which I haven't had for over two years now. Can LDN in general be related to temporarely this herpes? And / or does the step back to 3 mg has anything to do with this herpes?> > > > > > Regards and thanks for the answers.> > > > >

> Joris> > >> >>

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i have no medical background what so ever.i have a sick wife that the regular

doctors made her worse everyday.with the help of the internet and maybe some of

the best doctors someone can find like dr rind,dr therese hertoghe and doctor

simoncini and the many forums even this group and the man that thought us about

ldn from the ovamed forum we gathered some knowledge.through helping some people

in our town and this forum http://hormonaledisbal.forum2go.nl/ of my wife

we gathered some experience.

> > > >

> > > > Goodmorning,

> > > >

> > > > After using 4,5mg LDN for 3 weeks now I experienced fatigue and

setbacks, so 4 days back I decided to take a step back to 3 mg.. Since yesterday

I have herpes above my mouth, which I haven't had for over two years now. Can

LDN in general be related to temporarely this herpes? And / or does the step

back to 3 mg has anything to do with this herpes?

> > > >

> > > > Regards and thanks for the answers.

> > > >

> > > > Joris

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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i do not believe vit c can drive nutrients out.what happen with vit c is when

you take vit c more then need you get diharee and then you loose

nutients.therefore i speak always vit c until bowl tolerance ,which means up to

diharee and then a bit lower and to stay there for 3 weeks.

you can read this story and that person i know personally.

http://deeyeopener.web-log.nl/eye_opener/2008/04/ziekte-van-pfei.html

> > > >

> > > > Goodmorning,

> > > >

> > > > After using 4,5mg LDN for 3 weeks now I experienced fatigue and

setbacks, so 4 days back I decided to take a step back to 3 mg.. Since yesterday

I have herpes above my mouth, which I haven't had for over two years now. Can

LDN in general be related to temporarely this herpes? And / or does the step

back to 3 mg has anything to do with this herpes?

> > > >

> > > > Regards and thanks for the answers.

> > > >

> > > > Joris

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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>> Goodmorning,> > After using 4,5mg LDN for 3 weeks now I experienced fatigue and setbacks, so 4 days back I decided to take a step back to 3 mg.. Since yesterday I have herpes above my mouth, which I haven't had for over two years now. Can LDN in general be related to temporarely this herpes? And / or does the step back to 3 mg has anything to do with this herpes?> > Regards and thanks for the answers.> > Joris

Hi Joris,

I have CFS and lots of viruses. Since starting LDN I have had a few shingles outbreaks (herpes zoster) and the last one was getting so painful I was thinking about getting a prescription for Valtrex. Then I read about Virastop on the LDN Autism site and decided to try it. I got relief the first day I took it and the pain was gone the next day and now the outbreak is going away. Since I have been taking Virastop my energy is better and I have less pain overall. For me it seems to be a good complement to LDN. Here is the main site that describes it: http://www.enzymedica.com/products/ViraStop

You can get it on line from many sources. If you go to this site you can get 5.00 off your first order with this code LIG492. http://www.iherb.com/Enzymedica-Virastop-120-Capsules/3609?at=0

I wish you well.

in Albuquerque

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zahavi and all

I have diagnoses of CFIDS and FMS and etc. About ten years ago, I took over 25 grams of Vit C orally daily for months with little effect. And, I never reached bowel tolerance.

Once I learned the viruses I was dealing with were E-B and CMV, I switched to officinalis tincture of fresh herb and was able to bring the viruses under control in several months. The viral titres were very high.

This was several years before I learned of LDN. I now take LDN daily for over two years and tincture occasionally for viral control maintenance.

The best implementation of vitamin C for some viruses is via IV as in a Meyer's cocktail rather than orally.

I am improved enough so that yesterday I presented a workshop on seven anti-viral herbs, some specific to the Herpes family of viruses which include E-B and CMV plus HHV6a and b plus Zoster.

Let's take this discussion to the ldn support group instead of here. Remember that the group owner requests that we keep off topic discussion to a minimum on this group.

mjh

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> I have a young friend who breaks out in cold sores each times she is

> stressed. She has used Lysine to treat these manifestations of herpes but

> what dose or for how long I do not know, just that the cold sores keep on

> erupting.

It took high doses of lysine for approx a year to eliminate herpes virus here.

If the sores " keep erupting " , that may mean the lysine is pulling out the virus.

> As she is getting married in a large society wedding in June 2010, I thought

> I would defer to the collective wisdom of this list for the proper dosage of

> Lysine she should be taking, for how long, and anything else she should be

> taking to compliment it's efficacy.

Depends on how much she is taking now, but I would take it every day until the

cold sores are gone and her feet start hurting [painful feet was the sign here

that no more lysine was required]. Some of us used 500mg 2x per day, some

1500mg 3x per day, and one needed 3000mg 3x per day.

Watch for yeast overgrowth. Viral die off tends to cause a lot of yeast.

There were a few " mouth sores " here that did not respond to lysine but responded

to vitamin D, so consider that also.

Dana

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I found for me that taking an odorless garlic supplement daily reduces a chance

or cold sores. On days when it begins to breakout, double the dose.

Vitaly

> > I have a young friend who breaks out in cold sores each times she is

> > stressed. She has used Lysine to treat these manifestations of herpes but

> > what dose or for how long I do not know, just that the cold sores keep on

> > erupting.

>

>

> It took high doses of lysine for approx a year to eliminate herpes virus here.

>

> If the sores " keep erupting " , that may mean the lysine is pulling out the

virus.

>

>

> > As she is getting married in a large society wedding in June 2010, I thought

> > I would defer to the collective wisdom of this list for the proper dosage of

> > Lysine she should be taking, for how long, and anything else she should be

> > taking to compliment it's efficacy.

>

>

> Depends on how much she is taking now, but I would take it every day until the

cold sores are gone and her feet start hurting [painful feet was the sign here

that no more lysine was required]. Some of us used 500mg 2x per day, some

1500mg 3x per day, and one needed 3000mg 3x per day.

>

> Watch for yeast overgrowth. Viral die off tends to cause a lot of yeast.

>

> There were a few " mouth sores " here that did not respond to lysine but

responded to vitamin D, so consider that also.

>

> Dana

>

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I have been treating herpes with 4- 5 drops of mms, a tiny bit of water, dmso

and a little bit of lemon juice every 2 hours and have just had another

breakout, my second. I was putting the mixture on with a cotton ball now I am

using my hand and rubbing it in. I have continued to treat the condition after

there were no longer any signs of infection hoping to kill the virus forever. I

am afraid I brought on the second outbreak. Advice?

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I doubt seriously that lemon juice would foster a outbreak.

There are a lot better anti-virals out there than your use of lemon juice.

If you have an arbor vitae tree growing in your yard as many of us might,

its leaf is a superb anti-viral. Pick some and macerate in DMSO then use. IF

you live in the more arid parts of USA, chaparral is a good plant to use the

same way. I can go on and on. Try some thing other than lemon juice.

doug

[ ] herpes

>I have been treating herpes with 4- 5 drops of mms, a tiny bit of water,

>dmso and a little bit of lemon juice every 2 hours and have just had

>another breakout, my second. I was putting the mixture on with a cotton

>ball now I am using my hand and rubbing it in. I have continued to treat

>the condition after there were no longer any signs of infection hoping to

>kill the virus forever. I am afraid I brought on the second outbreak.

>Advice?

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