PAID TROLLS--Re: What really happens with MMS in the body--

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Hello ,

I guess we live in different worlds...

I thought you might call me a Dr. Hesselink supporter at the expense of Jim

Humble. If you did, you would be partially correct. Dr. Hesselink is quick to

point out the inconsistencies of the MMS protocol and goes on to explain, using

science, why. He is much closer to being on the right track than Jim Humble is,

and I support his efforts.

If you really want to provide support you would take a moment and donate some

badly need funds to Dr. Hesselink and his effort. In spite of the fact that he

doesn't fully understand the chemistry, he is very close and I have sent support

to him for his efforts. I have also donated to help Jim Humbles efforts.

I do bash Jim Humble, but only in the areas where he is off tract. He seems to

be mellowing out a little. In the last discussion with him he stated that it

wasn't important to understand how these chemicals work, but to simply

understand that they do work. Who knows, now that he has others doing research

at his center they may be able to figure this out and set him straight. I don't

think anyone here is intimidated by my posts, but I know Jim Humble is. We went

back and forth a while back and I outlined a particular one of his errors and

gave him specific instructions on how to set up and test to demonstrate his

error. He privately acknowledged his error. I asked him about the details of

the thousands of tests he has run and he informed me that he was unable to

provide any information on his testing. I did not push further, but found his

position a little " strange. "

If you have read any of my posts you would understand that I rely on the science

experts to a point, but the test data is actually as, or more, important than

the opinion of the experts. On top of that, experts can be very helpful if you

know how to question them.

At any rate, good luck with your group, and if you have questions I will be

happy to try to answer them if I can.

Tom

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> Hello Tom,

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> You are right I never directed my comments at you or anyone specifically. I

only outlined the strategy of paid trolls and everyone here seems to know

exactly who this shoe fits, even if they don't like the necessary conclusion.

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> Tom if you have not learned yet that all science today, and especially

medicine, is ruled by money and not the truth, then there is little I can do for

you. Consult with any honest researcher you wish, they all tell the same story,

money controls the outcome. If you want to be supportive in alternative

medicine, then the first thing you must do is WAKE UP, pull your head out and

start thinking for yourself. If you let 'science' experts tell you what is

true, then you'll be another sheep lead to the slaughter and paying them dearly

for the privilege.

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> Here is what this groups' homepage says, first sentence, " This group is

established for the purpose of discussing and sharing our experiences with the

Miracle Mineral Supplement. " And later in regard to topics, " We need a group

specifically for how to use MMS and discuss symptoms and treatments. There are

alot of sick people who don't have the energy or time to peruse through 25

messages to find 1. " Tom this group is supposed to be about EXPERIENCES and

SYMPTOMS AND TREATMENTS, not about scientific theory or industry standards you

love to discuss.

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> Moreover Tom let's be honest, your focus on 'science' and industry standards

to discredit Jim has effectively halted honest, open discussion of experiences

with MMS. People are intimidated by you and your science and they do not feel a

supportive atmosphere to share their experiences. Maybe this is intentional on

your part, maybe not. To me it is clear, you are operating as one smooth paid

professional with a hidden and disruptive agenda. Your two long posts against

Jim gave you away. It is crystal clear you are not coming at this from the

personal experiences the group is supposed to be about, instead you rely on the

falsehoods of science.

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> If anyone else is sick of the pharma thugs and their intimidation and wants to

discuss experiences in a supportive atmosphere, I did just start my own group.

It is not showing up in searches yet but later you can search for mms or humble

and it will come up. My name is on the home page. I had never intended to

start my own group on this, I was hoping the moderators would ban the paid pros

so things could be more supportive.

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> I am grateful to Daddybob and for allowing my posts, and holding to

their commitment to openness with integrity. I realize my posts have not been

about MMS experiences either, but this was an extraordinary situation. I

apologize for the disruption it has caused, I do pray that the truth will shine

forth and the lies will be exposed.

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> Harrah

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