Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Roni please this is misinformation b/c you are confusing low dose bioidentical cortisol (that your body makes BTW) with high doses of synthetic steroids. you yourself will never be well until you take hydrocortisone. http://www.drlam.com read Safe Uses of Cortisol by Jefferies MD Gracia I'm sorry for your problems. I have FMS as well as hypothyroid, and it's possible that you have it too, or CFS. The one thing I want to tell you is that you should be aware that hydrocortisone is a horrible drug that is vicious in its side effects. Another thing is that the side effects are cumulative, so you don't have to be on very high doses to have these awful side effects. Please do some research on several different sites and check this out. I was given this drug many times for bronchitis and asthma, and I had no idea of what it does. I will never take it again. Good luck and I hope your new doctor will help you. Roni Recent Activity a.. 13New Members Visit Your Group Get cancer support Connect w/ others find help & share Health Looking for Love? Find relationship advice and answers. FruitaBü Parents Healthy Eating Zone A parenting resource on . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1209 - Release Date: 1/4/2008 12:05 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Here's some info you need to know: http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/solucort_ad.htm, and some more, Brand Name(s): Cortef, Hydrocortone Generic Name Hydrocortisone Tablets What are hydrocortisone tablets? HYDROCORTISONE (Cortef®, Hydrocortone®) is a corticosteroid. It helps to reduce swelling, redness, itching, and allergic reactions. Hydrocortisone is similar to natural steroid hormone produced by the adrenal gland. Hydrocortisone treats severe allergies, skin problems, asthma, arthritis, or many other conditions. Generic hydrocortisone tablets are available. What should I tell my health care provider before I take this medicine? They need to know if you have any of these conditions: •blood clotting disorder •Cushing's syndrome •diabetes •high blood pressure •infection, including chicken-pox, herpes, measles, or tuberculosis •liver disease •myasthenia gravis •osteoporosis •previous heart attack •psychosis •seizures (convulsions) •stomach or intestinal disease •under-active thyroid •an unusual or allergic reaction to hydrocortisone, corticosteroids, other medicines, foods, dyes, or preservatives •pregnant or trying to get pregnant •breast-feeding How should I take this medicine? Take hydrocortisone tablets by mouth. Follow the directions on the prescription label. Swallow the tablets with a drink of water. Take with milk or food to avoid stomach upset. If you are only taking hydrocortisone once a day, take it in the morning, which is the time your body normally secretes cortisol. Take your doses at regular intervals. Do not take your medicine more often than directed. Do not stop taking hydrocortisone except on your prescriber's advice. Contact your pediatrician or health care professional regarding the use of this medicine in children. Special care may be needed. What if I miss a dose? If you miss a dose, take it as soon as you can. If it is almost time for your next dose, consult your prescriber or health care professional. You may need to miss a dose or take a double dose, depending on your condition and treatment. Do not take double or extra doses without advice. What drug(s) may interact with hydrocortisone? •antiinflammatory drugs (NSAIDs, such as ibuprofen) •aspirin •barbiturate medicines for inducing sleep or treating seizures (convulsions) •bosentan •calcium supplements •carbamazepine •female hormones, including contraceptive or birth control pills •heart medicines •medicines for diabetes •medicines that improve muscle strength or tone for conditions like myasthenia gravis •phenytoin •rifampin •toxoids and vaccines •water pills Tell your prescriber or health care professional about all other medicines you are taking, including non-prescription medicines, nutritional supplements, or herbal products. Also tell your prescriber or health care professional if you are a frequent user of drinks with caffeine or alcohol, if you smoke, or if you use illegal drugs. These may affect the way your medicine works. Check with your health care professional before stopping or starting any of your medicines. What side effects may I notice from taking hydrocortisone? Some side effects can be reduced by taking single daily doses in the morning. Check with your prescriber or health care professional to determine the best schedule for your condition. Side effects that you should report to your prescriber or health care professional as soon as possible: •bloody or black, tarry stools •confusion, excitement, restlessness, a false sense of well-being •eye pain, decreased or blurred vision, or bulging eyes •fever, sore throat, sneezing, cough, or other signs of infection •frequent passing of urine •hallucinations (seeing and hearing things that are not really there) •increased thirst •irregular heartbeat •menstrual problems •mental depression, mood swings, mistaken feelings of self-importance, mistaken feelings of being mistreated •muscle cramps or muscle weakness •nausea, vomiting •pain in hips, back, ribs, arms, shoulders, or legs •rounding out of face •skin problems, acne •stomach pain •swelling of feet or lower legs •unusual bruising or red pinpoint spots on the skin •unusual tiredness or weakness •weight gain or weight loss •wounds that will not heal Side effects that usually do not require medical attention (report to your prescriber or health care professional if they continue or are bothersome): •diarrhea or constipation •change in taste •headache •increased appetite or loss of appetite •increased sweating •nervousness, restlessness, or difficulty sleeping •unusual increased growth of hair on the face or body •upset stomach What should I watch for while taking hydrocortisone? Visit your prescriber or health care professional for regular checks on your progress. If you are taking corticosteroids for a long time, carry an identification card with your name, the type and dose of corticosteroid, and your prescriber's name and address. Do not suddenly stop taking hydrocortisone. You may need to gradually reduce the dose, so that your body can adjust. Follow the advice of your prescriber or health care professional. If you take corticosteroids for a long time, avoid contact with people who have an infection. You may be at an increased risk from infection while taking hydrocortisone. Tell your prescriber or health care professional if you are exposed to anyone with measles or chickenpox, or if you develop sores or blisters that do not heal properly. People who are taking certain dosages of hydrocortisone may need to avoid immunization with certain vaccines or may need to have changes in their vaccination schedules to ensure adequate protection from certain diseases. Make sure to tell your prescriber or health care professional that you are taking hydrocortisone before receiving any vaccine. If you are diabetic, hydrocortisone can affect your blood sugar. Check with your prescriber or health care professional if you need help adjusting the dose of your diabetic medicine. If you take hydrocortisone tablets every day, you may need to watch your diet. Your body can also lose potassium while you take this medicine. Ask your prescriber or health care professional about your diet, especially about your salt intake. If you are going to have surgery tell your prescriber or health care professional that you are taking hydrocortisone, or have taken it within the last 12 months. Alcohol can increase the risk of getting serious side effects while you are taking hydrocortisone. Avoid alcoholic drinks. Elderly patients have an increased risk of side effects from hydrocortisone. Hydrocortisone can interfere with certain lab tests and can cause false skin test results. Where can I keep my medicine? Keep out of the reach of children in a container that small children cannot open. Store at room temperature between 15—30 degrees C (59—86 degrees F). Throw away any unused medicine after the expiration date. Roni Gracia <circe@...> wrote: Roni please this is misinformation b/c you are confusing low dose bioidentical cortisol (that your body makes BTW) with high doses of synthetic steroids. you yourself will never be well until you take hydrocortisone. http://www.drlam.com read Safe Uses of Cortisol by Jefferies MD Gracia I'm sorry for your problems. I have FMS as well as hypothyroid, and it's possible that you have it too, or CFS. The one thing I want to tell you is that you should be aware that hydrocortisone is a horrible drug that is vicious in its side effects. Another thing is that the side effects are cumulative, so you don't have to be on very high doses to have these awful side effects. Please do some research on several different sites and check this out. I was given this drug many times for bronchitis and asthma, and I had no idea of what it does. I will never take it again. Good luck and I hope your new doctor will help you. Roni Recent Activity a.. 13New Members Visit Your Group Get cancer support Connect w/ others find help & share Health Looking for Love? Find relationship advice and answers. FruitaBü Parents Healthy Eating Zone A parenting resource on . .. ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Hi Roni, Have you been checked for Ebstein Barr Virus? I have read that this can cause Mono, Fibro, CFS. Blessings, Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: At fifteen I developed pneumonia and mono at the same time, and was ill for two solid months. Came out of it with a collapsed lung, which thankfully healed with three weeks in the Florida sun (also got sun poisoning, but that's another story). Some think that mono is one of the precursors of FMS. I really don't know. All I know is that I am in a flare right now and I hurt all over. Roni Nancie Barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote: I have FMS, too. although I am not sure if I had FMS before I was diagnosed with hypo T. I had lupus as a child- but wasn't officially diagnosed- we [ my providers and I] have come to that conclusion based on childhood symptoms. in medicine we frequently see thyroid issues in FMS- but we do not firmly believe it is caused by hypo T. Re: Newbee When I first came down with fibromyalgia, I seemed to have all the symptoms of lupus or RA. The doctor had me tested for both and when they were negative, sent me to a rheumatologist who took a history and examined me and declared me definitly having fibromyalgia. I also have hypothyroid, and have since my early twenties, maybe even before that. Roni Recent Activity a.. 12New Members<hypothyroidism/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJlN3UzYj\ hjBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdm\ 1icnMEc3RpbWUDMTE5OTQwNDQ2OQ--> Visit Your Group <hypothyroidism;_ylc=X3oDMTJkNjJmaGxtBF9TAzk3MzU5N\ zE0BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdmdocARzdGltZQMxM\ Tk5NDA0NDY5> Having cancer is hard<http://us.ard./SIG=12nbjn0kr/M=493064.12016247.1244565610478265/D=\ grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1199411669/A=4763763/R=0/SIG=11uofhk5p/*ht\ tp://advision.webevents./cancersupport/index.html> Finding help shouldn´t be. FruitaBü Parents on Groups<http://us.ard./SIG=12m3q3e4i/M=493064.12016231.12445647.9706571/\ D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1199411669/A=4718984/R=0/SIG=11kunoe70/*\ http://advision.webevents./healthyeating/> teaching families how to eat healthy. Health Live Better Longer<http://us.ard./SIG=12m7ek6t1/M=493064.12016303.12445695.9706571/\ D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1199411669/A=5008807/R=0/SIG=10q26t77l/*\ http://health./> Find new ways to stay healthy. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 you and me both, arrrg!! mine was triggered by a cold and the weather it is raining and cold here in pacific palisades. I hope you feel better soon. sending some healing prayers your way. nancie Re: Newbee When I first came down with fibromyalgia, I seemed to have all the symptoms of lupus or RA. The doctor had me tested for both and when they were negative, sent me to a rheumatologist who took a history and examined me and declared me definitly having fibromyalgia. I also have hypothyroid, and have since my early twenties, maybe even before that. Roni Recent Activity a.. 12New Members<hypothyroidism/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJlN3UzYj\ hjBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdm\ 1icnMEc3RpbWUDMTE5OTQwNDQ2OQ--<hypothyroidism/memb\ ers;_ylc=X3oDMTJlN3UzYjhjBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTE\ wODIEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdm1icnMEc3RpbWUDMTE5OTQwNDQ2OQ-->> Visit Your Group <hypothyroidism;_ylc=X3oDMTJkNjJmaGxtBF9TAzk3MzU5N\ zE0BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdmdocARzdGltZQMxM\ Tk5NDA0NDY5<hypothyroidism;_ylc=X3oDMTJkNjJmaGxtBF\ 9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdmdocA\ RzdGltZQMxMTk5NDA0NDY5>> Having cancer is hard<http://us.ard./SIG=12nbjn0kr/M=493064.12016247.1244565610478265/D=\ grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1199411669/A=4763763/R=0/SIG=11uofhk5p/*ht\ tp://advision.webevents./cancersupport/index.html<http://us.ard..c\ om/SIG=12nbjn0kr/M=493064.12016247.1244565610478265/D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/\ Y=/EXP=1199411669/A=4763763/R=0/SIG=11uofhk5p/*http://advision.webevents.ya\ hoo.com/cancersupport/index.html>> Finding help shouldn´t be. FruitaBü Parents on Groups<http://us.ard./SIG=12m3q3e4i/M=493064.12016231.12445647.9706571/\ D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1199411669/A=4718984/R=0/SIG=11kunoe70/*\ http://advision.webevents./healthyeating/<http://us.ard./SIG=1\ 2m3q3e4i/M=493064.12016231.12445647.9706571/D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/\ EXP=1199411669/A=4718984/R=0/SIG=11kunoe70/*http://advision.webevents./\ healthyeating/>> teaching families how to eat healthy. Health Live Better Longer<http://us.ard./SIG=12m7ek6t1/M=493064.12016303.12445695.9706571/\ D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1199411669/A=5008807/R=0/SIG=10q26t77l/*\ http://health./<http://us.ard./SIG=12m7ek6t1/M=493064.12016303\ ..12445695.9706571/D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1199411669/A=5008807/R\ =0/SIG=10q26t77l/*http://health./>> Find new ways to stay healthy. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 You know, the truth is that this all happened so long ago that I don't remember what they tested for and what they didn't. Roni and Irwin <familyirwin@...> wrote: Hi Roni, Have you been checked for Ebstein Barr Virus? I have read that this can cause Mono, Fibro, CFS. Blessings, Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: At fifteen I developed pneumonia and mono at the same time, and was ill for two solid months. Came out of it with a collapsed lung, which thankfully healed with three weeks in the Florida sun (also got sun poisoning, but that's another story). Some think that mono is one of the precursors of FMS. I really don't know. All I know is that I am in a flare right now and I hurt all over. Roni Nancie Barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote: I have FMS, too. although I am not sure if I had FMS before I was diagnosed with hypo T. I had lupus as a child- but wasn't officially diagnosed- we [ my providers and I] have come to that conclusion based on childhood symptoms. in medicine we frequently see thyroid issues in FMS- but we do not firmly believe it is caused by hypo T. Re: Newbee When I first came down with fibromyalgia, I seemed to have all the symptoms of lupus or RA. The doctor had me tested for both and when they were negative, sent me to a rheumatologist who took a history and examined me and declared me definitly having fibromyalgia. I also have hypothyroid, and have since my early twenties, maybe even before that. Roni Recent Activity a.. 12New Members<hypothyroidism/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJlN3UzYj\ hjBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdm\ 1icnMEc3RpbWUDMTE5OTQwNDQ2OQ--> Visit Your Group <hypothyroidism;_ylc=X3oDMTJkNjJmaGxtBF9TAzk3MzU5N\ zE0BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdmdocARzdGltZQMxM\ Tk5NDA0NDY5> Having cancer is hard<http://us.ard./SIG=12nbjn0kr/M=493064.12016247.1244565610478265/D=\ grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1199411669/A=4763763/R=0/SIG=11uofhk5p/*ht\ tp://advision.webevents./cancersupport/index.html> Finding help shouldn´t be. FruitaBü Parents on Groups<http://us.ard./SIG=12m3q3e4i/M=493064.12016231.12445647.9706571/\ D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1199411669/A=4718984/R=0/SIG=11kunoe70/*\ http://advision.webevents./healthyeating/> teaching families how to eat healthy. Health Live Better Longer<http://us.ard./SIG=12m7ek6t1/M=493064.12016303.12445695.9706571/\ D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1199411669/A=5008807/R=0/SIG=10q26t77l/*\ http://health./> Find new ways to stay healthy. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Oh thanks, Nancie. I sure could use them. I will do the same for you. Where is Pacific Palisades? I am in Seattle Eastside, and it is raining here too. Roni Nancie Barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote: you and me both, arrrg!! mine was triggered by a cold and the weather it is raining and cold here in pacific palisades. I hope you feel better soon. sending some healing prayers your way. nancie Re: Newbee When I first came down with fibromyalgia, I seemed to have all the symptoms of lupus or RA. The doctor had me tested for both and when they were negative, sent me to a rheumatologist who took a history and examined me and declared me definitly having fibromyalgia. I also have hypothyroid, and have since my early twenties, maybe even before that. Roni Recent Activity a.. 12New Members<hypothyroidism/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJlN3UzYj\ hjBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdm\ 1icnMEc3RpbWUDMTE5OTQwNDQ2OQ--<hypothyroidism/memb\ ers;_ylc=X3oDMTJlN3UzYjhjBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTE\ wODIEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdm1icnMEc3RpbWUDMTE5OTQwNDQ2OQ-->> Visit Your Group <hypothyroidism;_ylc=X3oDMTJkNjJmaGxtBF9TAzk3MzU5N\ zE0BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdmdocARzdGltZQMxM\ Tk5NDA0NDY5<hypothyroidism;_ylc=X3oDMTJkNjJmaGxtBF\ 9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdmdocA\ RzdGltZQMxMTk5NDA0NDY5>> Having cancer is hard<http://us.ard./SIG=12nbjn0kr/M=493064.12016247.1244565610478265/D=\ grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1199411669/A=4763763/R=0/SIG=11uofhk5p/*ht\ tp://advision.webevents./cancersupport/index.html<http://us.ard..c\ om/SIG=12nbjn0kr/M=493064.12016247.1244565610478265/D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/\ Y=/EXP=1199411669/A=4763763/R=0/SIG=11uofhk5p/*http://advision.webevents.ya\ hoo.com/cancersupport/index.html>> Finding help shouldn´t be. FruitaBü Parents on Groups<http://us.ard./SIG=12m3q3e4i/M=493064.12016231.12445647.9706571/\ D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1199411669/A=4718984/R=0/SIG=11kunoe70/*\ http://advision.webevents./healthyeating/<http://us.ard./SIG=1\ 2m3q3e4i/M=493064.12016231.12445647.9706571/D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/\ EXP=1199411669/A=4718984/R=0/SIG=11kunoe70/*http://advision.webevents./\ healthyeating/>> teaching families how to eat healthy. Health Live Better Longer<http://us.ard./SIG=12m7ek6t1/M=493064.12016303.12445695.9706571/\ D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1199411669/A=5008807/R=0/SIG=10q26t77l/*\ http://health./<http://us.ard./SIG=12m7ek6t1/M=493064.12016303\ ..12445695.9706571/D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1199411669/A=5008807/R\ =0/SIG=10q26t77l/*http://health./>> Find new ways to stay healthy. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 in southern calif. Re: Newbee When I first came down with fibromyalgia, I seemed to have all the symptoms of lupus or RA. The doctor had me tested for both and when they were negative, sent me to a rheumatologist who took a history and examined me and declared me definitly having fibromyalgia. I also have hypothyroid, and have since my early twenties, maybe even before that. Roni Recent Activity a.. 12New Members<hypothyroidism/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJlN3UzYj\ hjBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdm\ 1icnMEc3RpbWUDMTE5OTQwNDQ2OQ--<hypothyroidism/memb\ ers;_ylc=X3oDMTJlN3UzYjhjBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTE\ wODIEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdm1icnMEc3RpbWUDMTE5OTQwNDQ2OQ--><g\ roup/hypothyroidism/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJlN3UzYjhjBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE0NTY\ 2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdm1icnMEc3RpbWUDMTE5OTQwNDQ2OQ--<ht\ tp:///group/hypothyroidism/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJlN3UzYjhjBF9TAzk3\ MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdm1icnMEc3Rp\ bWUDMTE5OTQwNDQ2OQ-->>> Visit Your Group <hypothyroidism;_ylc=X3oDMTJkNjJmaGxtBF9TAzk3MzU5N\ zE0BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdmdocARzdGltZQMxM\ Tk5NDA0NDY5<hypothyroidism;_ylc=X3oDMTJkNjJmaGxtBF\ 9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdmdocA\ RzdGltZQMxMTk5NDA0NDY5><hypothyroidism;_ylc=X3oDMT\ JkNjJmaGxtBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEc2VjA3Z0bA\ RzbGsDdmdocARzdGltZQMxMTk5NDA0NDY5<hypothyroidism;\ _ylc=X3oDMTJkNjJmaGxtBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODI\ Ec2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdmdocARzdGltZQMxMTk5NDA0NDY5>>> Having cancer is hard<http://us.ard./SIG=12nbjn0kr/M=493064.12016247.1244565610478265/D=\ grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1199411669/A=4763763/R=0/SIG=11uofhk5p/*ht\ tp://advision.webevents./cancersupport/index.html<http://us.ard..c\ om/SIG=12nbjn0kr/M=493064.12016247.1244565610478265/D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/\ Y=/EXP=1199411669/A=4763763/R=0/SIG=11uofhk5p/*http://advision.webevents.ya\ hoo.com/cancersupport/index.html><http://us.ard./SIG=12nbjn0kr/M=493064\ ..12016247.1244565610478265/D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1199411669/A=\ 4763763/R=0/SIG=11uofhk5p/*http://advision.webevents./cancersupport/ind\ ex.html<http://us.ard./SIG=12nbjn0kr/M=493064.12016247.1244565610478265\ /D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1199411669/A=4763763/R=0/SIG=11uofhk5p/\ *http://advision.webevents./cancersupport/index.html>>> Finding help shouldn´t be. FruitaBü Parents on Groups<http://us.ard./SIG=12m3q3e4i/M=493064.12016231.12445647.9706571/\ D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1199411669/A=4718984/R=0/SIG=11kunoe70/*\ http://advision.webevents./healthyeating/<http://us.ard./SIG=1\ 2m3q3e4i/M=493064.12016231.12445647.9706571/D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/\ EXP=1199411669/A=4718984/R=0/SIG=11kunoe70/*http://advision.webevents./\ healthyeating/><http://us.ard./SIG=12m3q3e4i/M=493064.12016231.12445647\ ..9706571/D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1199411669/A=4718984/R=0/SIG=11\ kunoe70/*http://advision.webevents./healthyeating/<http://us.ard..\ com/SIG=12m3q3e4i/M=493064.12016231.12445647.9706571/D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC\ /Y=/EXP=1199411669/A=4718984/R=0/SIG=11kunoe70/*http://advision.webevents.y\ ahoo.com/healthyeating/>>> teaching families how to eat healthy. Health Live Better Longer<http://us.ard./SIG=12m7ek6t1/M=493064.12016303.12445695.9706571/\ D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1199411669/A=5008807/R=0/SIG=10q26t77l/*\ http://health./<http://us.ard./SIG=12m7ek6t1/M=493064.12016303\ ..12445695.9706571/D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=1199411669/A=5008807/R\ =0/SIG=10q26t77l/*http://health./><http://us.ard./SIG=12m7ek6t\ 1/M=493064.12016303.12445695.9706571/D=grphealth/S=1709251082:NC/Y=/EXP=119\ 9411669/A=5008807/R=0/SIG=10q26t77l/*http://health./<http://us.ard.yaho\ o.com/SIG=12m7ek6t1/M=493064.12016303.12445695.9706571/D=grphealth/S=1709251082:\ NC/Y=/EXP=1199411669/A=5008807/R=0/SIG=10q26t77l/*http://health./>\ >> Find new ways to stay healthy. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 > > Hi > > I am new to this forum. Firstly, Bee thanks for assembling such a > comprehensive amount of info on candida and how to overcome it. You > have done a great job. > > I suspect I may suffer from candida and am thinking about trying an > anti-candida diet for 3 months to see if candida is the reason I am > feeling fatigued. > > I am willing to make the significant changes necessary however I don't > think I have enough time to follow all the advice - such as > calculating Ratios of Proteins to Fats/Oils to Carbs, drinking Coconut > oil, clove oil etc). I work quite long hours and don't have enough > time in the day to prepare all these recipes and mixtures. > > I suppose my question is - If i eliminate all sugers, then introduce > antifungals and probiotics, can I expect to eliminate the candida > problem? Hi . Welcome to our group! And thank you for the acknowledgements about this forum and the information provided. Unfortunately you will need much longer than 3 months to see if you get improvements. That is because natural healing, which is what this program is all about, takes one month for every year you've been unwell. For most people nowadays that is since they were conceived. This is according to Hering's Law of Cure: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu1_1_2.php There are no quick fixes, so just eliminating sugars, etc. like you mentioned doesn't work. The reason is because candida is not cured by eliminating it, or killing it off. Candida can only be cured when your immune system becomes strong enough to " make " candida change back to the friendly organism it was before it changed into an overgrowing monster. That's why diet plus supplements (all of them) are required, and they are so much more important than antifungals and probiotics. However coconut oil is unique since it is an antifungal plus it provides many other health benefits so that's why it is part of the diet. To understand more about the healing process and why it takes so long see these articles: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu1_2.php The best in health, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Hi All, I am new to this group. I am 7 months pregnant and my OB thinks I might have a hyperthroid. They drew blood yesterday and if I am he will put me on meds. I'm freaked out taking this while pregnant,especially since I have a child recovering from Autism. I appreciate any feedback. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Difficult I know, but try not to be freaked out ...take some deep breaths and practical solutions will emerge! One immediate suggestion would be to change your diet to one that includes all the goitrogenic foods that hypO bodies try to avoid! This includes raw brassicas (cabbage, broccoli etc) not to mention flaxseeds which are brimful with omega 3 fatty acids ...Omega 6 to Omega 3 ratio is KEY for many processes to work and most bodies these days have way too much of the 6. Goitrogenic foods inhibit the uptake of T4. T4 is the mainly inactive hormone and has to be converted to T3. I have no time to write more just now but I wish you and your unborn all the best. How lovely too that your other child is recovering from autism ...well done to you all Trish > > Hi All, > > I am new to this group. I am 7 months pregnant and my OB thinks I might have a hyperthroid. They drew blood yesterday and if I am he will put me on meds. I'm freaked out taking this while pregnant,especially since I have a child recovering from Autism. I appreciate any feedback. Thank you > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 thank you Trish ________________________________ From: trishruk <fielddot@...> hypothyroidism Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2009 2:51:56 AM Subject: Re: NEWBEE Difficult I know, but try not to be freaked out ...take some deep breaths and practical solutions will emerge! One immediate suggestion would be to change your diet to one that includes all the goitrogenic foods that hypO bodies try to avoid! This includes raw brassicas (cabbage, broccoli etc) not to mention flaxseeds which are brimful with omega 3 fatty acids ...Omega 6 to Omega 3 ratio is KEY for many processes to work and most bodies these days have way too much of the 6. Goitrogenic foods inhibit the uptake of T4. T4 is the mainly inactive hormone and has to be converted to T3. I have no time to write more just now but I wish you and your unborn all the best. How lovely too that your other child is recovering from autism ...well done to you all Trish > > Hi All, > > I am new to this group. I am 7 months pregnant and my OB thinks I might have a hyperthroid. They drew blood yesterday and if I am he will put me on meds. I'm freaked out taking this while pregnant,especially since I have a child recovering from Autism. I appreciate any feedback. Thank you > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 HypErthyroidism is too much thyroxine while hypOthyroidism is too little. You might post your lab results here [be sure to include ranges] and perhaps someone will have a better idea. Luck, .. .. > > Posted by: " girllofgod " girllofgod@... > <mailto:girllofgod@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20NEWBEE> > girllofgod <girllofgod> > > > Wed Sep 2, 2009 8:42 pm (PDT) > > > > Hi All, > > I am new to this group. I am 7 months pregnant and my OB thinks I > might have a hyperthroid. They drew blood yesterday and if I am he > will put me on meds. I'm freaked out taking this while > pregnant,especially since I have a child recovering from Autism. I > appreciate any feedback. Thank you > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 I can understand newbees being censored to make sure they are not just joining to start trouble, have seen this on other lists I just can't understand why it takes over 35 hours to check a post to make sure it is ok. I posted the following email at approximately 10:00 AM on Feb 11, it is now 6 PM Feb 12. If my post is offensive please tell me what is wrong with it so I can correct it. Aster ________________________________ From: Aster <aster317@...> Joint Replacement Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 9:44:49 AM Subject: Newbee Hi I had a THR last July and just had a TKR two weeks ago. I know I am not moving around as much as I should and today I start PT for the knee which I am looking forward too. I have a big tricycle which I could ride within a couple of weeks after the hip replacement but I can't with the knee because it doesn't want to bend like it used too. How soon should I expect to get back to whizzing (ok, ok, a slow whiz) through the park? My biggest problems right now are the muscles in the back of my legs. They hurt, what is the best thing I can do for them? Aster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Hi Aster, there is nothing wrong with your post. This blog seems to work differently that others I have been on, and it is difficult to separate writers and write individual responses. I also get my responses back in my email which is weird. Anyway, the knee is said to be more difficult than the hip. When you get to PT they will give you exercises to get back your Range of Motion which will enable you to ride your bike. That should take between 4-6 weeks. My ROM started at two weeks at 90, and it is now, after two months 114. I can do the bike. I want to get to at least ROM 120 before i leave PT and start going to the gym on my own. My hamstrings are still week, and I am building them up. No pain there though. The stiffness is really bothersome, as is the scar and the numbness on the right side of my knee. And this is after two months. So hang in there, and good luck. Joan, LTKR Hospital for Joint Diseases, NYC, Dev.4, 2009 ________________________________ From: Aster <aster317@...> Joint Replacement Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 7:39:04 PM Subject: Re: Newbee I can understand newbees being censored to make sure they are not just joining to start trouble, have seen this on other lists I just can't understand why it takes over 35 hours to check a post to make sure it is ok. I posted the following email at approximately 10:00 AM on Feb 11, it is now 6 PM Feb 12. If my post is offensive please tell me what is wrong with it so I can correct it. Aster ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Aster <aster317 (DOT) com> Total_Joint_ Replacement Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 9:44:49 AM Subject: Newbee Hi I had a THR last July and just had a TKR two weeks ago. I know I am not moving around as much as I should and today I start PT for the knee which I am looking forward too. I have a big tricycle which I could ride within a couple of weeks after the hip replacement but I can't with the knee because it doesn't want to bend like it used too. How soon should I expect to get back to whizzing (ok, ok, a slow whiz) through the park? My biggest problems right now are the muscles in the back of my legs. They hurt, what is the best thing I can do for them? Aster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Hi Joan: My doctor said the knee will take longer so will have to work harder at getting it back. This morning started out great and each day I can see the difference. The teripist said I should be able to ride my bike in 6 weeks so marked the 8th week on my calendar to be back out in our parks. Aster ________________________________ From: Joan Kell <kell_joan@...> Joint Replacement Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 10:41:33 AM Subject: Re: Re: Newbee Hi Aster, there is nothing wrong with your post. This blog seems to work differently that others I have been on, and it is difficult to separate writers and write individual responses. I also get my responses back in my email which is weird. Anyway, the knee is said to be more difficult than the hip. When you get to PT they will give you exercises to get back your Range of Motion which will enable you to ride your bike. That should take between 4-6 weeks. My ROM started at two weeks at 90, and it is now, after two months 114. I can do the bike. I want to get to at least ROM 120 before i leave PT and start going to the gym on my own. My hamstrings are still week, and I am building them up. No pain there though. The stiffness is really bothersome, as is the scar and the numbness on the right side of my knee. And this is after two months. So hang in there, and good luck. Joan, LTKR Hospital for Joint Diseases, NYC, Dev.4, 2009 ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Aster <aster317 (DOT) com> Total_Joint_ Replacement Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 7:39:04 PM Subject: [Total_Joint_ Replacement] Re: Newbee I can understand newbees being censored to make sure they are not just joining to start trouble, have seen this on other lists I just can't understand why it takes over 35 hours to check a post to make sure it is ok. I posted the following email at approximately 10:00 AM on Feb 11, it is now 6 PM Feb 12. If my post is offensive please tell me what is wrong with it so I can correct it. Aster ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Aster <aster317 (DOT) com> Total_Joint_ Replacement Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 9:44:49 AM Subject: Newbee Hi I had a THR last July and just had a TKR two weeks ago. I know I am not moving around as much as I should and today I start PT for the knee which I am looking forward too. I have a big tricycle which I could ride within a couple of weeks after the hip replacement but I can't with the knee because it doesn't want to bend like it used too. How soon should I expect to get back to whizzing (ok, ok, a slow whiz) through the park? My biggest problems right now are the muscles in the back of my legs. They hurt, what is the best thing I can do for them? Aster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Hi Aster, That is great! My bike is over in England, but I will be getting there at the end of May and plan to get my tires pumped up soon after. The stationary bike is fine, but I want out!!! I am planning to buy knee pads like the rollerbladers wear just in case. Are you?? All the best, Joan ________________________________ From: Aster <aster317@...> Joint Replacement Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 6:42:21 PM Subject: Re: Re: Newbee Hi Joan: My doctor said the knee will take longer so will have to work harder at getting it back. This morning started out great and each day I can see the difference. The teripist said I should be able to ride my bike in 6 weeks so marked the 8th week on my calendar to be back out in our parks. Aster ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Joan Kell <kell_joan (DOT) com> Total_Joint_ Replacement Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 10:41:33 AM Subject: Re: [Total_Joint_ Replacement] Re: Newbee Hi Aster, there is nothing wrong with your post. This blog seems to work differently that others I have been on, and it is difficult to separate writers and write individual responses. I also get my responses back in my email which is weird. Anyway, the knee is said to be more difficult than the hip. When you get to PT they will give you exercises to get back your Range of Motion which will enable you to ride your bike. That should take between 4-6 weeks. My ROM started at two weeks at 90, and it is now, after two months 114. I can do the bike. I want to get to at least ROM 120 before i leave PT and start going to the gym on my own. My hamstrings are still week, and I am building them up. No pain there though. The stiffness is really bothersome, as is the scar and the numbness on the right side of my knee. And this is after two months. So hang in there, and good luck. Joan, LTKR Hospital for Joint Diseases, NYC, Dev.4, 2009 ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Aster <aster317 (DOT) com> Total_Joint_ Replacement Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 7:39:04 PM Subject: [Total_Joint_ Replacement] Re: Newbee I can understand newbees being censored to make sure they are not just joining to start trouble, have seen this on other lists I just can't understand why it takes over 35 hours to check a post to make sure it is ok. I posted the following email at approximately 10:00 AM on Feb 11, it is now 6 PM Feb 12. If my post is offensive please tell me what is wrong with it so I can correct it. Aster ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Aster <aster317 (DOT) com> Total_Joint_ Replacement Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 9:44:49 AM Subject: Newbee Hi I had a THR last July and just had a TKR two weeks ago. I know I am not moving around as much as I should and today I start PT for the knee which I am looking forward too. I have a big tricycle which I could ride within a couple of weeks after the hip replacement but I can't with the knee because it doesn't want to bend like it used too. How soon should I expect to get back to whizzing (ok, ok, a slow whiz) through the park? My biggest problems right now are the muscles in the back of my legs. They hurt, what is the best thing I can do for them? Aster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 My bike is one of those big tricycles that folds so I can put it in my van to take to the parks. It has been a real life saver. I have given much thought to the knee pads and a two wheel bike. Think I will try it anyway. Like you I want out of this house and into the parks to visit the wildlife. Aster ________________________________ From: Joan Kell <kell_joan@...> Joint Replacement Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 7:50:29 AM Subject: Re: Re: Newbee Hi Aster, That is great! My bike is over in England, but I will be getting there at the end of May and plan to get my tires pumped up soon after. The stationary bike is fine, but I want out!!! I am planning to buy knee pads like the rollerbladers wear just in case. Are you?? All the best, Joan ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Aster <aster317 (DOT) com> Total_Joint_ Replacement Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 6:42:21 PM Subject: Re: [Total_Joint_ Replacement] Re: Newbee Hi Joan: My doctor said the knee will take longer so will have to work harder at getting it back. This morning started out great and each day I can see the difference. The teripist said I should be able to ride my bike in 6 weeks so marked the 8th week on my calendar to be back out in our parks. Aster ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Joan Kell <kell_joan (DOT) com> Total_Joint_ Replacement Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 10:41:33 AM Subject: Re: [Total_Joint_ Replacement] Re: Newbee Hi Aster, there is nothing wrong with your post. This blog seems to work differently that others I have been on, and it is difficult to separate writers and write individual responses. I also get my responses back in my email which is weird. Anyway, the knee is said to be more difficult than the hip. When you get to PT they will give you exercises to get back your Range of Motion which will enable you to ride your bike. That should take between 4-6 weeks. My ROM started at two weeks at 90, and it is now, after two months 114. I can do the bike. I want to get to at least ROM 120 before i leave PT and start going to the gym on my own. My hamstrings are still week, and I am building them up. No pain there though. The stiffness is really bothersome, as is the scar and the numbness on the right side of my knee. And this is after two months. So hang in there, and good luck. Joan, LTKR Hospital for Joint Diseases, NYC, Dev.4, 2009 ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Aster <aster317 (DOT) com> Total_Joint_ Replacement Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 7:39:04 PM Subject: [Total_Joint_ Replacement] Re: Newbee I can understand newbees being censored to make sure they are not just joining to start trouble, have seen this on other lists I just can't understand why it takes over 35 hours to check a post to make sure it is ok. I posted the following email at approximately 10:00 AM on Feb 11, it is now 6 PM Feb 12. If my post is offensive please tell me what is wrong with it so I can correct it. Aster ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Aster <aster317 (DOT) com> Total_Joint_ Replacement Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 9:44:49 AM Subject: Newbee Hi I had a THR last July and just had a TKR two weeks ago. I know I am not moving around as much as I should and today I start PT for the knee which I am looking forward too. I have a big tricycle which I could ride within a couple of weeks after the hip replacement but I can't with the knee because it doesn't want to bend like it used too. How soon should I expect to get back to whizzing (ok, ok, a slow whiz) through the park? My biggest problems right now are the muscles in the back of my legs. They hurt, what is the best thing I can do for them? Aster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Here, Here! There is nothing like air! What is it about gyms with their lack of windows that depresses me? Or did I just answer my own question? Hoping it's warm where you are so you can get out! Joan ________________________________ From: Aster <aster317@...> Joint Replacement Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 12:11:28 PM Subject: Re: Re: Newbee My bike is one of those big tricycles that folds so I can put it in my van to take to the parks. It has been a real life saver. I have given much thought to the knee pads and a two wheel bike. Think I will try it anyway. Like you I want out of this house and into the parks to visit the wildlife. Aster ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Joan Kell <kell_joan (DOT) com> Total_Joint_ Replacement Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 7:50:29 AM Subject: Re: [Total_Joint_ Replacement] Re: Newbee Hi Aster, That is great! My bike is over in England, but I will be getting there at the end of May and plan to get my tires pumped up soon after. The stationary bike is fine, but I want out!!! I am planning to buy knee pads like the rollerbladers wear just in case. Are you?? All the best, Joan ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Aster <aster317 (DOT) com> Total_Joint_ Replacement Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 6:42:21 PM Subject: Re: [Total_Joint_ Replacement] Re: Newbee Hi Joan: My doctor said the knee will take longer so will have to work harder at getting it back. This morning started out great and each day I can see the difference. The teripist said I should be able to ride my bike in 6 weeks so marked the 8th week on my calendar to be back out in our parks. Aster ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Joan Kell <kell_joan (DOT) com> Total_Joint_ Replacement Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 10:41:33 AM Subject: Re: [Total_Joint_ Replacement] Re: Newbee Hi Aster, there is nothing wrong with your post. This blog seems to work differently that others I have been on, and it is difficult to separate writers and write individual responses. I also get my responses back in my email which is weird. Anyway, the knee is said to be more difficult than the hip. When you get to PT they will give you exercises to get back your Range of Motion which will enable you to ride your bike. That should take between 4-6 weeks. My ROM started at two weeks at 90, and it is now, after two months 114. I can do the bike. I want to get to at least ROM 120 before i leave PT and start going to the gym on my own. My hamstrings are still week, and I am building them up. No pain there though. The stiffness is really bothersome, as is the scar and the numbness on the right side of my knee. And this is after two months. So hang in there, and good luck. Joan, LTKR Hospital for Joint Diseases, NYC, Dev.4, 2009 ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Aster <aster317 (DOT) com> Total_Joint_ Replacement Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 7:39:04 PM Subject: [Total_Joint_ Replacement] Re: Newbee I can understand newbees being censored to make sure they are not just joining to start trouble, have seen this on other lists I just can't understand why it takes over 35 hours to check a post to make sure it is ok. I posted the following email at approximately 10:00 AM on Feb 11, it is now 6 PM Feb 12. If my post is offensive please tell me what is wrong with it so I can correct it. Aster ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Aster <aster317 (DOT) com> Total_Joint_ Replacement Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 9:44:49 AM Subject: Newbee Hi I had a THR last July and just had a TKR two weeks ago. I know I am not moving around as much as I should and today I start PT for the knee which I am looking forward too. I have a big tricycle which I could ride within a couple of weeks after the hip replacement but I can't with the knee because it doesn't want to bend like it used too. How soon should I expect to get back to whizzing (ok, ok, a slow whiz) through the park? My biggest problems right now are the muscles in the back of my legs. They hurt, what is the best thing I can do for them? Aster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Hello: A newbee here. Just read Humble's 2nd Edition MMS book. Would like to make some MMS. So far I located only Sodium Hypochlorite. Can this be used to make the MMS? Thank You. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 Hello Seeker2cool, No. You need sodium chlorite. Tom --- In , " seeker2cool " <kurt@...> wrote: > > Hello: A newbee here. Just read Humble's 2nd Edition MMS book. Would like to make some MMS. So far I located only Sodium Hypochlorite. Can this be used to make the MMS? Thank You. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Take a peek at sLaw. Try a few key words in their search engine. http://www.wrightslaw.com/ Here's a section on discipline and behavior: http://www.wrightslaw.com/info/discipl.index.htm This issue of their newsletter addresses some of these topics: http://www.wrightslaw.com/nltr/11/nl.0208.htm Since your son has already served the suspension, I'd consider requesting a let's-avoid-this-happening-again meeting with everyone involved--his current classroom teachers, principal, any other school people who are involved with the implementation of his IEP, and the head of special ed for that school level. And Al is right, you probably should bring along experienced help. If your son sees any specialists outside of school, I'd bring them too. In my experience, these professionals will charge what you'd pay for one or two of the usual sessions, and it's always been worthwhile to put your experts against the school's experts. Once you get them all in the meeting, hand out a written, dated memo from you that points out the exact items on the IEP that you feel had a bearing on the suspension. In the memo, ask how the school staff will implement the IEP points in similar situations in the future. Make sure you bring a copy for everyone. They'll know you are creating a paper trail, and that's a good thing. Consider bringing along a girlfriend to take notes, and have her dress up in business-like attire. Just introduce her as " my friend who will take notes. " In the meeting, suggest that they might like to consult with someone about the difficulties they are having. Since they are calling you frequently to take him home during the school day, they would certainly benefit from fresh ideas. He's not learning material if he's not in class. If they are sending him home frequently, and have given him a suspension, they are certainly documenting all this. Ask for copies of the paperwork. Suggest that you'd like to review the causes for any trends that might be useful to know. They might be building a case for changing his classroom or a placement outside the district. It's in your son's interest for you to keep written track of what's going on, and to call meetings to discuss his behavior--and theirs. I'd solve the OT issue on another day. If you get improvement on the suspension and early dismissal problem, your life will be easier and your son will get more education. And if a perusal of the sLaw website doesn't help you, go ahead and email them. They are very, very savvy people. -Gail ________________________________ From: tamie_pryor <tamie_pryor@...> IPADDUnite Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:56 AM Subject: Newbee Hi All! I was referred to this board by Al in Naperville. He spoke to me the other night he gave me some very good advice. If you don't mind I would like to share it here and see what thoughts you might have. My son has an IEP, he has Sensory Integration Dysfunction (or whatever they are calling it today). He as been labeled with an Emotional Disorder, I guess because they don't know how else to label him. I found out by chance that he should have been getting OT at school just last year. Don't see that he's getting it this year, though he is supposed to. He was suspended from school the other day for the exact behaviors he as the IEP for. They have been making a habit of calling me to pick him up when they cannot handle him and this is the first time they called it a suspension. My gut feeling is that they are doing this to get him out of their hair because they don't want or know how to deal with him. Al said someone with experience should take a look at his IEP and go with me to the next meeting. I am on my on, my son's father does no beleive SID exists and had interfered in his therapy and just badgers the school and everyone involved, so he clearly is no help. Luckily I have sole custody (and he wonders why). Anyway, i think I should try to fight the suspension, though he's already served it. From what I can tell, this school's policy is to suspend, regardless of IEP. They have kicked another 9-year-old kid out numerous times this year, almost weekly. It seems clear to me that they don't know what they're doing. Even last year, the ED/BD teacher would call me all of the time tattling on my son and I would always think to myself, " didn't she go to school for this? Why is she calling me? " I would have to come up with ideas for them to try. Of course there is more to the story, but I don't want to write a novel, here. Thanks, Tamie Oswego School District 308, Kendall County Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Tamie, You are describing my son to a tee outside of the diagnosis. I wish I could tell this is a quick fix but, I would by lying!! We have been trying to get the school district to work with us and it has been an up and down hill battle. I would love to compare experiences and explain what steps we have taken so far to help out. Please contact me by the number below. I think I might be able to help. If not, at least you know your not alone. Also, I would appreciate any feedback from the group as well. Visser 708/296-2812 Cellular Phone Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen (Please note: I provide general information regarding medical research, treatment options, seminars, workshops, therapies and nutrition to the special needs community.The information comes from a variety of sources, and I do not independently verify any of it. No emails should be construed as medical or legal advice. Always consult your child's doctor regarding his or her individual needs.) From: tamie_pryor <tamie_pryor@...> Subject: Newbee IPADDUnite Date: Wednesday, December 14, 2011, 1:56 AM Hi All! I was referred to this board by Al in Naperville. He spoke to me the other night he gave me some very good advice. If you don't mind I would like to share it here and see what thoughts you might have. My son has an IEP, he has Sensory Integration Dysfunction (or whatever they are calling it today). He as been labeled with an Emotional Disorder, I guess because they don't know how else to label him. I found out by chance that he should have been getting OT at school just last year. Don't see that he's getting it this year, though he is supposed to. He was suspended from school the other day for the exact behaviors he as the IEP for. They have been making a habit of calling me to pick him up when they cannot handle him and this is the first time they called it a suspension. My gut feeling is that they are doing this to get him out of their hair because they don't want or know how to deal with him. Al said someone with experience should take a look at his IEP and go with me to the next meeting. I am on my on, my son's father does no beleive SID exists and had interfered in his therapy and just badgers the school and everyone involved, so he clearly is no help. Luckily I have sole custody (and he wonders why). Anyway, i think I should try to fight the suspension, though he's already served it. From what I can tell, this school's policy is to suspend, regardless of IEP. They have kicked another 9-year-old kid out numerous times this year, almost weekly. It seems clear to me that they don't know what they're doing. Even last year, the ED/BD teacher would call me all of the time tattling on my son and I would always think to myself, " didn't she go to school for this? Why is she calling me? " I would have to come up with ideas for them to try. Of course there is more to the story, but I don't want to write a novel, here. Thanks, Tamie Oswego School District 308, Kendall County ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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