Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 here it is the breaking point. do you know where the fungus coming from to the body!!!??? you know from OUTSIDE! RIGHT??? BUT I do know is coming from inside the body. Is NOT mine this idea,but peoples whom where persecuted even killed for...what they see under the microscope!! They see a nanosize smallest living creatures.that is millions in our every cell ,blood,no english name for it.It was named:mycrozimas,bions,somatids,by differents DR-s in differents times. This holds our blueprints for life,and whenn the immune system going so much down they do not have other choice just they are destroying us. But with changing the millineo,or enviroment by food or frequencies,or by light or by magnetic fields etc they changing themselfs and thansferring the sick back to healty again.So what exactly happens by MMS1,MMS2 my point of view does not matter for me ,matter only the regained HEALTH and I gess the jungel people happy with that also and who fallow them they doing they owne mind and desire who can say No,even God not stopping no one!! Who can then???GB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Hello GBI read an article (don't have the link right now) where there was a comparison with a fridge (vs. the body) in order to show that mold and yeast is in the body. It was like: why is that after you unplug the fridge and keep the food in it, even if closed, and reopen it weeks later, is fool of mold? Where did it come from, outside? The article was suggesting not, it was always in there, but the conditions changed and it allowed it to grow all over. The same with the body: it was suggesting is in there and it can grow if the environment allows it; hence the diet, alkaline environment, etc. is good to not let fungus grow. It is Simoncini's idea that if you get rid of a cancer (btw, he believes cancer is fungus) but don't change your diet and lifestyle and allow acidity into your body, the cancer might come back.Now I think comparing your body with a fridge is a bit exagerated (it's much more complex than that of course), but it suggests that yes, fungus is in there; the idea is not to get rid of it, I don't think is possible (anyone?) but rather to keep it in check.This is my 2 cents on the subject (I'm just starting with alkalinity and don't know much; on top of that, I'm already considered a troll here, so be careful when reading my post )A good day!From: go2y47or <go2y47or@...>Subject: [ ] TOM and everyone Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 11:31 PM here it is the breaking point. do you know where the fungus coming from to the body!!!??? you know from OUTSIDE! RIGHT??? BUT I do know is coming from inside the body. Is NOT mine this idea,but peoples whom where persecuted even killed for...what they see under the microscope!! They see a nanosize smallest living creatures.that is millions in our every cell ,blood,no english name for it.It was named:mycrozimas,bions,somatids,by differents DR-s in differents times. This holds our blueprints for life,and whenn the immune system going so much down they do not have other choice just they are destroying us. But with changing the millineo,or enviroment by food or frequencies,or by light or by magnetic fields etc they changing themselfs and thansferring the sick back to healty again.So what exactly happens by MMS1,MMS2 my point of view does not matter for me ,matter only the regained HEALTH and I gess the jungel people happy with that also and who fallow them they doing they owne mind and desire who can say No,even God not stopping no one!! Who can then???GB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010  Hi ?I don't think that's a new concept. It's well known that our bodies are a complex mix of good and bad bacteria, enzymes, etc. all (hopefully) kept in balance. When we become ill, one or more of those parameters are out of balance, allowing unfriendly bacteria, fungus, etc to proliferate. A body high in acid residues seems to make us more susceptible to takeover by the "unfriendly" group.As a naturopath, this is one of the many things I'm looking at when helping my clients to regain their health. So diet forms the foundation: "we are what we eat" and supplements help re-establish a healthy balance. Serious illness might mean the body is so far out of balance, with so much damage done, that we can no longer restore normal function but need to provide much in the way of support (supplements etc) to allow the person to lead a relatively normal life.At the same time, there needs to be common sense. Just because excess acidity is harmful doesn't mean that extreme alkalinity is what we're aiming for. All things in moderation. So a healthy diet (vegetables, fruit, adequate protein, ample clean water), exercise, adequate rest, relaxation all play a part. It would be nice if there was a single "magic bullet" for good health but it just ain't going to happen in spite of what some people pushing particular supplements etc would have us believe. One of my favourite authors on the traditional naturopathic approach to health is Walter Last and many of his articles can be found on the internet.Carole Eideann, Fionn & Guepard (Tristania GSDs)carole@...www.berigorafarm.com.au----- Original Message ----- From: fiordean dacian Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:06 PMSubject: Re: [ ] TOM and everyoneHello GBI read an article (don't have the link right now) where there was a comparison with a fridge (vs. the body) in order to show that mold and yeast is in the body. It was like: why is that after you unplug the fridge and keep the food in it, even if closed, and reopen it weeks later, is fool of mold? Where did it come from, outside? The article was suggesting not, it was always in there, but the conditions changed and it allowed it to grow all over. The same with the body: it was suggesting is in there and it can grow if the environment allows it; hence the diet, alkaline environment, etc. is good to not let fungus grow. It is Simoncini's idea that if you get rid of a cancer (btw, he believes cancer is fungus) but don't change your diet and lifestyle and allow acidity into your body, the cancer might come back.Now I think comparing your body with a fridge is a bit exagerated (it's much more complex than that of course), but it suggests that yes, fungus is in there; the idea is not to get rid of it, I don't think is possible (anyone?) but rather to keep it in check.This is my 2 cents on the subject (I'm just starting with alkalinity and don't know much; on top of that, I'm already considered a troll here, so be careful when reading my post )A good day!From: go2y47or <go2y47or@...>Subject: [ ] TOM and everyone Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 11:31 PM here it is the breaking point.do you know where the fungus coming from to the body!!!???you know from OUTSIDE! RIGHT???BUT I do know is coming from inside the body.Is NOT mine this idea,but peoples whom where persecuted even killed for...what they see under the microscope!!They see a nanosize smallest living creatures.that is millions in our every cell ,blood,no english name for it.It was named:mycrozimas,bions,somatids,by differents DR-s in differents times.This holds our blueprints for life,and whenn the immune system going so much down they do not have other choice just they are destroying us.But with changing the millineo,or enviroment by food or frequencies,or by light or by magnetic fields etc they changing themselfs and thansferring the sick back to healty again.So what exactly happens by MMS1,MMS2 my point of view does not matter for me ,matter only the regained HEALTH and I gess the jungel people happy with that also and who fallow them they doing they owne mind and desire who can say No,even God not stopping no one!! Who can then???GB__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4580 (20091106) __________The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4580 (20091106) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Hi CaroleJust because excess acidity is harmful doesn't mean that extreme alkalinity is what we're aiming for.Agree on that; it is from what I read to date that the body has on inclination towards a bit more alkalinity; a PH of 7.3 is healthy. 8-9 or more of PH it's too alkaline and that can create other problems (I'm not sure which sort of problems - it looks like heart problems are on the list) but being balanced - and the body likes it - it's best.The problem many times is we have to deal with (ugly) illness, like cancer. Now it might be that in this case (if the disease is advanced) the body needs a kind of shock; a cancer patient having the same diet as a healthy person will probably help, but it won't address its problem. For instance the MMS, there is a reason (I think) for different protocols: to make a cleanup of you body, a different for stage 4 cancer, etc.Look at Simoncini's protocol for cancer; he administers baking soda in much bigger quantities than you might drink if in good shape (that's no brainer); and this is precisely because it needs to "attack" the cancer. This creates probably high alkalinity in the body during the treatement; once the cancer is under control (if backing soda is successfull) you can go for a more balanced diet (less alkaline stuff). Many people here (including myself) ask question because of health problems; actually many of use (and I'm again a good example) go out and look for information when they face the problem (or a family member has it and want to help, etc.); otherwise, we're ignorants...thanks,DacianFrom: go2y47or <go2y47or (DOT) com>Subject: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] TOM and everyonemiracle_mineral_ supplementDate: Monday, July 19, 2010, 11:31 PM here it is the breaking point.do you know where the fungus coming from to the body!!!???you know from OUTSIDE! RIGHT???BUT I do know is coming from inside the body.Is NOT mine this idea,but peoples whom where persecuted even killed for...what they see under the microscope!!They see a nanosize smallest living creatures.that is millions in our every cell ,blood,no english name for it.It was named:mycrozimas, bions,somatids, by differents DR-s in differents times.This holds our blueprints for life,and whenn the immune system going so much down they do not have other choice just they are destroying us.But with changing the millineo,or enviroment by food or frequencies, or by light or by magnetic fields etc they changing themselfs and thansferring the sick back to healty again.So what exactly happens by MMS1,MMS2 my point of view does not matter for me ,matter only the regained HEALTH and I gess the jungel people happy with that also and who fallow them they doing they owne mind and desire who can say No,even God not stopping no one!! Who can then???GB__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4580 (20091106) __________The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.http://www.eset. com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4580 (20091106) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Hello Dacian, The body controls its PH very closely. Each area of the body operates at a different PH. As long as the body has the material to work with, it will do a good job of controlling the PH. I think the problem comes when you run out of the materials your body needs to work with. Then the balance is upset. If you drink an alkaline solution your stomach acid is used up making it acid. If you are unable to produce more acid quickly, when you eat something it will only be partially digested and then it will go on to ferment in the lower GI tract. In the same way if you are lacking calcium, magnesium, and the other minerals that your body needs to neutralize the stomach acid, the PH of your lower GI tract will be off. The point is that it may not be enough just to try to alkalize the body. You may have to step back and look at the broader picture and rebuild the body so it can function within its normal PH range. If you have access to the cancer, Dr. Simoncini has demonstrated that bathing it in a low PH solution can kill it. However, when the cancer is hidden, it becomes difficult to achieve the radical change in PH that is effective. Also, keep in mind that MMS ends up being chlorous ACID with a PH of about 3, and that it takes a whole lot of alkaline to offset a little bit of acid. Tom > > Hello GB > > I read an article (don't have the link right now) where there was a comparison with a fridge (vs. the body) in order to show that mold and yeast is in the body. It was like: why is that after you unplug the fridge and keep the food in it, even if closed, and reopen it weeks later, is fool of mold? Where did it come from, outside? The article was suggesting not, it was always in there, but the conditions changed and it allowed it to grow all over. The same with the body: it was suggesting is in there and it can grow if the environment allows it; hence the diet, alkaline environment, etc. is good to not let fungus grow. It is Simoncini's idea that if you get rid of a cancer (btw, he believes cancer is fungus) but don't change your diet and lifestyle and allow acidity into your body, the cancer might come back. > > Now I think comparing your body with a fridge is a bit exagerated (it's much more complex than that of course), but it suggests that yes, fungus is in there; the idea is not to get rid of it, I don't think is possible (anyone?) but rather to keep it in check. > > This is my 2 cents on the subject (I'm just starting with alkalinity and don't know much; on top of that, I'm already considered a troll here, so be careful when reading my post ) > > A good day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 silverfox_science wrote: > The body controls its PH very closely. Each area of the body > operates at a different PH. As long as the body has the material to > work with, it will do a good job of controlling the PH. This is an important point... the pH of your small intestine can vary dramatically at different points... The blood is the one thing that should always have the same pH - it is tightly regulated between 7.35 and 7.45 - and indeed your body will 'rob to pay ' in order to maintain it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010  Hi Dacian, Yes, I'm familiar with Simoncini's work. Rather than waiting until you're sick and then trying to fix the problem, why not eat propertly, etc and stay healthy? Carole in OzEideann, Fionn & Guepard (Tristania GSDs)carole@...www.berigorafarm.com.au [miracle_mineral_ supplement] TOM and everyonemiracle_mineral_ supplementDate: Monday, July 19, 2010, 11:31 PM here it is the breaking point.do you know where the fungus coming from to the body!!!???you know from OUTSIDE! RIGHT???BUT I do know is coming from inside the body.Is NOT mine this idea,but peoples whom where persecuted even killed for...what they see under the microscope!!They see a nanosize smallest living creatures.that is millions in our every cell ,blood,no english name for it.It was named:mycrozimas, bions,somatids, by differents DR-s in differents times.This holds our blueprints for life,and whenn the immune system going so much down they do not have other choice just they are destroying us.But with changing the millineo,or enviroment by food or frequencies, or by light or by magnetic fields etc they changing themselfs and thansferring the sick back to healty again.So what exactly happens by MMS1,MMS2 my point of view does not matter for me ,matter only the regained HEALTH and I gess the jungel people happy with that also and who fallow them they doing they owne mind and desire who can say No,even God not stopping no one!! Who can then???GB__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4580 (20091106) __________The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.http://www.eset. com__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4580 (20091106) __________The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.http://www.eset. com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4580 (20091106) __________The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Carole, yes, I do try and pay attention to stay healthy.It just happens that I discovered this list searching for information on pancreatic cancer (discovered MMS hence this list) as my father in law has pancreatic cancer stage 3. Now of course he's having diet and pays attention to eating properly (for his illness) but he needs more to address his problem (at least try to address it); that's why I was mentioning he probably needs a sort of shock to attack that cancer (it remains to be seen whether successfully or not); there is another problem with pancreatic cancer; the evolution can be very fast and it's a very ugly cancer...Thanks for your help!From: go2y47or <go2y47or (DOT) com>Subject: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] TOM and everyonemiracle_mineral_ supplementDate: Monday, July 19, 2010, 11:31 PM here it is the breaking point.do you know where the fungus coming from to the body!!!???you know from OUTSIDE! RIGHT???BUT I do know is coming from inside the body.Is NOT mine this idea,but peoples whom where persecuted even killed for...what they see under the microscope!!They see a nanosize smallest living creatures.that is millions in our every cell ,blood,no english name for it.It was named:mycrozimas, bions,somatids, by differents DR-s in differents times.This holds our blueprints for life,and whenn the immune system going so much down they do not have other choice just they are destroying us.But with changing the millineo,or enviroment by food or frequencies, or by light or by magnetic fields etc they changing themselfs and thansferring the sick back to healty again.So what exactly happens by MMS1,MMS2 my point of view does not matter for me ,matter only the regained HEALTH and I gess the jungel people happy with that also and who fallow them they doing they owne mind and desire who can say No,even God not stopping no one!! Who can then???GB__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4580 (20091106) __________The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.http://www.eset. com__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4580 (20091106) __________The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.http://www.eset. com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4580 (20091106) __________The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.http://www.eset. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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