Re: Q for Tom/Silverfox re Ratios

July 31, 2010

I think you'll find that this is the same thing exactly--just written the other

way around. dee

On 31 Jul 2010, at 17:54, shari_salsera wrote:

> Greetings Tom -- I have been receiving daily updates of this forum for a

> couple of months now and have a question.

>

> I notice that you consistently state that Humble recommends a 5:1 ratio

> (5 parts Citric activator to 1 part MMS) when in fact, Humble

> consistently recommends just the opposite (1 part MMS to 5 parts 10%

> Citric activator).

>

> Am I backwards, or are you? I just want to clarify this as you have

> repeated it (opposite of Humble) so many times without anyone every

> commenting on it, to my knowledge.

>

> What am I missing here? Or am I?

>

> Thanks.

>

> -

July 31, 2010

Its the same thing . said backward.

I recomend omega 3 for healthy brain function. LOL

Wilkins

From: shari_salsera <shari_harter@...>Subject: [ ] Q for Tom/Silverfox re Ratios Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 12:54 PM

Greetings Tom -- I have been receiving daily updates of this forum for acouple of months now and have a question.I notice that you consistently state that Humble recommends a 5:1 ratio(5 parts Citric activator to 1 part MMS) when in fact, Humbleconsistently recommends just the opposite (1 part MMS to 5 parts 10%Citric activator).Am I backwards, or are you? I just want to clarify this as you haverepeated it (opposite of Humble) so many times without anyone everycommenting on it, to my knowledge.What am I missing here? Or am I?Thanks.

July 31, 2010

Hello Shari,

Welcome to the wonderful world of science...

Ratios need to be read carefully. It may help to add them together and then

visualize how much of each chemical ends up in the final mix. Jim Humble calls

for adding 5 parts of 10% citric acid for every 1 part sodium chlorite. This

can be written as 5:1 if you are talking from the acid perspective, or it could

be written as 1:5 if you are talking from the sodium chlorite perspective.

In both cases you have a total of 6 parts, 5 of them will be citric acid and the

remaining 1 part is sodium chlorite.

By the way, a more effective solution can be made by using a 1:1 ratio between

10% citric acid and sodium chlorite. In this case you have a total of 2 parts

with 1 part 10% citric acid and the other part sodium chlorite.

I can not tell you how many times I have screwed up a ratio during a test

because it was presented differently from what I was used to. I have learned to

pay close attention to ratios and make sure I understand them before proceeding

with the test.

Tom

>

> Greetings Tom -- I have been receiving daily updates of this forum for a

> couple of months now and have a question.

>

> I notice that you consistently state that Humble recommends a 5:1 ratio

> (5 parts Citric activator to 1 part MMS) when in fact, Humble

> consistently recommends just the opposite (1 part MMS to 5 parts 10%

> Citric activator).

>

> Am I backwards, or are you? I just want to clarify this as you have

> repeated it (opposite of Humble) so many times without anyone every

> commenting on it, to my knowledge.

>

> What am I missing here? Or am I?

>

> Thanks.

>

July 31, 2010

HOW LONG DOES A 20 DROP ACTIVATED MMS1 DOSE LAST?

From: silverfox_science <poast@...> Sent: Sat, July 31, 2010 12:42:49 PMSubject: [ ] Re: Q for Tom/Silverfox re Ratios

Hello Shari,Welcome to the wonderful world of science... Ratios need to be read carefully. It may help to add them together and then visualize how much of each chemical ends up in the final mix. Jim Humble calls for adding 5 parts of 10% citric acid for every 1 part sodium chlorite. This can be written as 5:1 if you are talking from the acid perspective, or it could be written as 1:5 if you are talking from the sodium chlorite perspective.In both cases you have a total of 6 parts, 5 of them will be citric acid and the remaining 1 part is sodium chlorite.By the way, a more effective solution can be made by using a 1:1 ratio between 10% citric acid and sodium chlorite. In this case you have a total of 2 parts with 1 part 10% citric acid and the other part sodium chlorite.I can not tell you how many times I have screwed up a ratio during a test because it was presented differently from what I was used to. I

have learned to pay close attention to ratios and make sure I understand them before proceeding with the test.Tom>> Greetings Tom -- I have been receiving daily updates of this forum for a> couple of months now and have a question.> > I notice that you consistently state that Humble recommends a 5:1 ratio> (5 parts Citric activator to 1 part MMS) when in fact, Humble> consistently recommends just the opposite (1 part MMS to 5 parts 10%> Citric activator).> > Am I backwards, or are you? I just want to clarify this as you have> repeated it (opposite of Humble) so many times without anyone every> commenting on

it, to my knowledge.> > What am I missing here? Or am I?> > Thanks.>

August 1, 2010

Hi Tom, I don't know if I'm hijacking this thread but it is on the same topic

i.e. ratios. The citric acid I have, came with the MMS which I bought. I am

unsure of where I got it from as it is quite a while since I purchased it. They

are both in little blue bottles--if this has any relevance. I think it came

from a site which must have been associated with Jim Humble as that is what I

was reading at the time. Anyway, it does not say it is 10% on the bottle--just

citric acid. Do you think this would be 10% and if so can I just put in 1 drop

of this instead of 5? Can you tell me also, what the significance of putting 5

drops in as opposed to 1 is? Does the amount of citric acid make a difference

to the action of the MMS and what would be the difference if I put in 1 drop

instead of 5? Also, is it the same amount of water i.e half a glass? Thank you

in advance. dee

On 31 Jul 2010, at 20:42, silverfox_science wrote:

>

> Hello Shari,

>

> Welcome to the wonderful world of science...

>

> Ratios need to be read carefully. It may help to add them together and then

visualize how much of each chemical ends up in the final mix. Jim Humble calls

for adding 5 parts of 10% citric acid for every 1 part sodium chlorite. This

can be written as 5:1 if you are talking from the acid perspective, or it could

be written as 1:5 if you are talking from the sodium chlorite perspective.

>

> In both cases you have a total of 6 parts, 5 of them will be citric acid and

the remaining 1 part is sodium chlorite.

>

> By the way, a more effective solution can be made by using a 1:1 ratio between

10% citric acid and sodium chlorite. In this case you have a total of 2 parts

with 1 part 10% citric acid and the other part sodium chlorite.

>

> I can not tell you how many times I have screwed up a ratio during a test

because it was presented differently from what I was used to. I have learned to

pay close attention to ratios and make sure I understand them before proceeding

with the test.

>

> Tom

>

August 1, 2010

Hello Dee,

You most likely have 10% citric acid.

However, since it is not labeled properly I would suggest throwing it out and

mixing up a new batch that you know the strength of, and then proper labeling

the bottle. Citric acid crystals can often be found in the bulk food section of

a grocery store. When mixing the 10% solution you put 1 gram of citric acid

crystals in a glass and add 9 grams of water and then stir to mix. To make a

larger amount simply multiply the amounts and keep them in the proper ratio.

Another way to be sure of what you have is to simply purchase a new bottle of

citric acid and ask the supplier to properly label the bottle.

Another option, if you have anyone near by that also has 10% citric acid, is to

run a taste test and do a side by side comparison of what you have and what they

have. Put a few drops into a glass of water and see if there is any difference

between your citric acid and their known concentration of citric acid.

The most effective activation of sodium chlorite using 10% citric acid is in a

1:1 ratio. When you add more acid, you pollute the solution with excess acid.

The people who process food insist upon something that is effective and they

like to reduce their costs as much as possible. Extensive research has found

that the 1:1 ratio meets both of those criteria.

Citric acid also has some disinfecting properties. If you want to explore

those, simply put some into a glass of water and drink it down at a separate

time.

The amount of water you add is critical to the concentration of the solution.

The concentration is measured in parts per million (PPM). Oxidizers, like

chlorine dioxide, are tested to determine the concentration and contact time

needed to kill pathogens.

For example, if you want to use chlorine dioxide to kill Campylobacter on a

kitchen counter you would mix up a 15 PPM free chlorine dioxide solution and

leave it in contact with the pathogen for 1 minute. The same concentration will

also kill off E coli.

Now, to mix up this concentration using the MMS products you would put 19 drops

of MMS in a glass, add 19 drops of citric acid, swirl to mix and let it activate

for 10 minutes. This would be added to 1 liter of water to end up with a

solution that is strong enough to kill off Campylobacter and E coli in a minute.

If you change the acid used for activation to HCl, the same liter of water would

only need 2 drops of MMS activated with 2 drops of 27% HCl. This would yield

the same concentration of free chlorine dioxide.

Unfortunately, there are no studies or testing that show the amount of these

chemicals that are necessary to kill pathogens inside the body. About all we

know is that if you take too high a concentration you will suffer mild poisoning

that shows up as nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea.

I don't like to hear stories of people making themselves sick by taking high

concentrations of these chemicals. I tell people that if they want to be a part

of this vast experiment they should put the chemicals in a liter water bottle

and sip it throughout the day. This will reduce the concentration to a level

where it is better tolerated. I think there are better ways to clean out your

colon than taking a high dose of MMS but if none of those products are available

chlorous acid, while not very gentle, will clean you out.

In Africa, Jim Humble claims that MMS alone gets the job done. In the rest of

the world this does not seem to be the case, so people add various other

treatments and sometimes some combination works. I always recommend that people

keep a journal to document their progress and what they are using. You may want

to start with only MMS and see what happens, then do some research on what

others are using and add those in as needed.

Caution... Oxidizers cause oxidative damage. Chlorine dioxide and chlorite

attack the blood cells at higher concentrations. You may want to consider

having a blood test done before starting so you have a base line for comparison.

If that is out of the question, then listen to your body. You should begin to

feel better almost immediately. At that point, I think you should stop taking

MMS and move on to rebuilding your immune system and your body. Continuing

oxidation beyond that point could be where the oxidative stress begins. The

body is very adaptive so you can endure a lot of stress, but you won't be

functioning at optimum health.

Listen to your body. If you find yourself after you stop using MMS beat back

down into the dirt, start back up for a couple of days to get your body back on

tract. I think this pulsing use is far more effective at bringing your body

back up to optimum health.

Tom

--- In , Dorothy Fitzpatrick <dee@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Tom, I don't know if I'm hijacking this thread but it is on the same topic