Guest guest Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 I think it's simply the fact that Jim does not understand that no two people are the same. Even for the Africans and others that he cured malaria with MMS, they don't have the means to continue taking it every day of their lives, so all he truly has to judge by is HIMSELF. And for him--MMS works for everything. He's said many times that he's tested it on himself, on his skin, his teeth even his eyes. He's used it for everything and has taken it daily for years and it doesn't bother HIM. He simply doesn't realize that everyone is different. We have different needs, different supplemental needs, different lacks of minerals, different everything. I have said it before and will say it again--nothing works for everyone, and anything will work for someone. Jim doesn't apparently believe that. He believes that MMS is THE answer to everything, ever human ailment or need. He's wrong. But he won't admit it. And he IS the authority on MMS--for HIM. Certainly not the authority for ME or for YOU. But because he does have the most experience with AMMS, I do listen to what he has to say. BUT--I also investigate it on my own, I read (and keep) other people's experiences, and then, using my OWN goddess-given intelligence, I choose what is right for ME. Which is why I tell people--you need to know all the facts and then choose what feels right for you. That's why I won't withhold my belief that you NEED C when you take MMS, and you NEED probiotics when you take MMS, and that you shouldn't be on MMS daily for the rest of your life, and a few other things. If I tell people what I KNOW to be true, then the can never come back and say--why didn't you tell me this could ruin my teeth? I did tell them, and the choice then became their responsibility. I will not be like Jim and go--MMS never hurt one person in hundreds of thousands of cases. I know better and I want people to have the facts. Then they can judge for themselves. MMS IS a gift. But it's a gift to be used wisely and with care. Know what you are doing and make choices based on some thought, don't believe anything just because one person says so, and you'll be fine. Don't belive me just because I said so. Look around. If there's more than one person having tooth sensitivity while on MMS (and there were several others on the original list that did) then know that it's a POSSIBILITY for you, too. But if you are prepared with this knowledge before hand, then when the first pings of tooth pain starts, you'll be able to go "well, I'm one of those cases that can't use MMS for brushing my teeth every day". Knowledge is freedom. Samala, -------Original Message------- If she had her enamel damaged as a result of using Jim's instructions ( I had also brushed per his instructions in the past few months) Then to be honest that to me leaves me uneasy about anything else Jim is saying as he comes off like he's the authority on the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 So if i damaged my enamel is this permanent as in will my teeth always be this sensitive or can they get stronger over time.. it is my understanding from all I have researched (and from personal experience) that tooth enamel does regenerate. It’s a fascinating study, the thousands of little tubules that make up the enamel…living grown tubes. Standard toothpaste or even the ‘natural’ ones have an ingredient, escapes me at the moment the offending ingredient, that coats the tubes so they can’t breathe therefore do not regenerate. I switched to baking soda or peppermint essential oil (yum). Now playing with ionic toothbrush and that is pretty cool also. Doesn’t use anything with the brush but saliva. Some 17 years ago I was finally in a position to have all metal fillings removed, had a few cosmetic things done at the same time. While I was in the chair one afternoon floating on the happy gas and good music thru the earphones my dentist, bless his heart, got this bright idea to resurface my front teeth with bonding that made them look like they had veneers. They were so perfect looking. Well, they looked just fine before, he just was in an artistic mode. I about fainted because I realized he had taken off a miniscule layer to do this artistry. He really was well intentioned so I held no grudges. But I thought I was doomed to permanent damage. Also learned my lesson to be very specific before you go under the gas J that was before internet in my world so I read what little I could find in books about remaking enamel. It looked ‘hopeful’. It took, can’t remember, but maybe a year to make all new enamel. I knew it had happened when they were no longer dull sheen when not wet. Ha! I would dry them periodically to do a sheen test and could see the natural enamel starting to form. Years later when I had internet I was able to read and see just what took place. My case was more extreme bc my top layer had been chemically removed to apply the bonding surface. Best guess you have not damaged the enamel to the extent mine was. so no worries…you’ll rebuild in no time as long as you don’t put on something that interferes with that re-enameling. Come to think of it I still used natural toothpaste which slowed down the process. If I had used baking soda then it probably would have happened much sooner. Wow…I just solved that mystery for myself. Your teeth will be fine…be happy J Xxx rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Mine got better after I stopped using the MMS. Took 3 weeks and they went back to normal. There is a special toothpaste you can get that is suppose to remineralize teeth. Can't think of the name so you'd have to Google it. I didn't do anything more than stop using MMS for that time. Samala, -------Original Message------- So if i damaged my enamel is this permanent as in will my teeth always be this sensitive or can they get stronger over time.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Rose, The damaging toothpaste ingredient is glycerin. Someone emailed me that making mouth wash out of sodium ascorbate (alkaline) together with drinking tea made of horsetail and oatstraw helps regenerate the teeth. We are doing above as dentist wants to perform root canal and crown onmy husbands chipped tooth. --- In , " palulukon " <palulukon@...> wrote: > > So if i damaged my enamel is this permanent as in will my teeth always be > this sensitive or can they get stronger over time.. > > > > it is my understanding from all I have researched (and from personal > experience) that tooth enamel does regenerate. It's a fascinating study, > the thousands of little tubules that make up the enamel.living grown tubes. > Standard toothpaste or even the 'natural' ones have an ingredient, escapes > me at the moment the offending ingredient, that coats the tubes so they > can't breathe therefore do not regenerate. I switched to baking soda or > peppermint essential oil (yum). Now playing with ionic toothbrush and that > is pretty cool also. Doesn't use anything with the brush but saliva. > > > > Some 17 years ago I was finally in a position to have all metal fillings > removed, had a few cosmetic things done at the same time. While I was in > the chair one afternoon floating on the happy gas and good music thru the > earphones my dentist, bless his heart, got this bright idea to resurface my > front teeth with bonding that made them look like they had veneers. They > were so perfect looking. Well, they looked just fine before, he just was in > an artistic mode. I about fainted because I realized he had taken off a > miniscule layer to do this artistry. He really was well intentioned so I > held no grudges. But I thought I was doomed to permanent damage. Also > learned my lesson to be very specific before you go under the gas J that > was before internet in my world so I read what little I could find in books > about remaking enamel. It looked 'hopeful'. It took, can't remember, but > maybe a year to make all new enamel. I knew it had happened when they were > no longer dull sheen when not wet. Ha! I would dry them periodically to do > a sheen test and could see the natural enamel starting to form. Years later > when I had internet I was able to read and see just what took place. My > case was more extreme bc my top layer had been chemically removed to apply > the bonding surface. Best guess you have not damaged the enamel to the > extent mine was. > > > > so no worries.you'll rebuild in no time as long as you don't put on > something that interferes with that re-enameling. Come to think of it I > still used natural toothpaste which slowed down the process. If I had used > baking soda then it probably would have happened much sooner. Wow.I just > solved that mystery for myself. > > Your teeth will be fine.be happy J > > Xxx > > rose > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 Borax finger dip? Tell me about it . Its not toxic is it? Taste? Wilkins > I would swish it in my mouth then gargle and swallow as i had swollen> tonsils also.Then yes, as others have stated, it could be responsible...IF I were you, to minimize the pain and speed healing, stop using theMMS like that, then start using colloidal silver to swish around themouth/gargle with, and then start oil-pulling...I'd also start using borax (20 mule team pure variety) once per day (thefinger-dipping technique) to provide boron to help strengthen them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 LSent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell.From: "palulukon" <palulukon@...>Sender: Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:44:07 -0500< >Reply Subject: RE: [ ] RE: Sensitive teeth Soif i damaged my enamel is this permanent as in will my teeth always be thissensitive or can they get stronger over time.. itis my understanding from all I have researched (and from personal experience)that tooth enamel does regenerate. It’s a fascinating study, thethousands of little tubules that make up the enamel…living growntubes. Standard toothpaste or even the ‘natural’ ones have aningredient, escapes me at the moment the offending ingredient, that coats the tubesso they can’t breathe therefore do not regenerate. I switched tobaking soda or peppermint essential oil (yum). Now playing with ionictoothbrush and that is pretty cool also. Doesn’t use anything withthe brush but saliva. Some17 years ago I was finally in a position to have all metal fillings removed, hada few cosmetic things done at the same time. While I was in the chair oneafternoon floating on the happy gas and good music thru the earphones mydentist, bless his heart, got this bright idea to resurface my front teeth withbonding that made them look like they had veneers. They were so perfectlooking. Well, they looked just fine before, he just was in an artisticmode. I about fainted because I realized he had taken off a minisculelayer to do this artistry. He really was well intentioned so I held nogrudges. But I thought I was doomed to permanent damage. Also learnedmy lesson to be very specific before you go under the gas J that was before internet in my world so I read what little I could find inbooks about remaking enamel. It looked ‘hopeful’. It took,can’t remember, but maybe a year to make all new enamel. I knew ithad happened when they were no longer dull sheen when not wet. Ha! I woulddry them periodically to do a sheen test and could see the natural enamelstarting to form. Years later when I had internet I was able to read andsee just what took place. My case was more extreme bc my top layer hadbeen chemically removed to apply the bonding surface. Best guess you havenot damaged the enamel to the extent mine was. sono worries…you’ll rebuild in no time as long as you don’t puton something that interferes with that re-enameling. Come to think of it Istill used natural toothpaste which slowed down the process. If I hadused baking soda then it probably would have happened much sooner. Wow…Ijust solved that mystery for myself.Yourteeth will be fine…be happy JXxxrose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 On 2010-07-27 9:00 PM, Wilkins <montemomma2002@...> wrote: > > > Borax finger dip? Tell me about it . Its not toxic is it? Taste? I learned about this from either daddyBob (or ransley?)... Here's a link describing it... and many more uses for Borax (amazing stuff actually, and totally cheap!): http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/borax.html The finger dip method just means, you wet your little finder, then dip it into the borax up to the FIRST JOINKNUCKLE. Make sure there is only a small film of borax stuck to your finger (know any excess off if necessary), then eat it. Another method described at the link above entails adding 1/32 to 1/4 teaspoon of borax to a liter of water and drinking it throughout the day (similar to daddyBobs magnesium water). Oh - and if memory serves, as a general rule, the max daily dis 1/8 teaspoon for women and 1/4 teaspoon for men... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Thanks > > > > > > Borax finger dip? Tell me about it . Its not toxic is it? Taste? > > I learned about this from either daddyBob (or ransley?)... > > Here's a link describing it... and many more uses for Borax (amazing > stuff actually, and totally cheap!): > > http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/borax.html > > The finger dip method just means, you wet your little finder, then dip > it into the borax up to the FIRST JOINKNUCKLE. Make sure there is only a > small film of borax stuck to your finger (know any excess off if > necessary), then eat it. > > Another method described at the link above entails adding 1/32 to 1/4 > teaspoon of borax to a liter of water and drinking it throughout the day > (similar to daddyBobs magnesium water). Oh - and if memory serves, as a > general rule, the max daily dis 1/8 teaspoon for women and 1/4 teaspoon > for men... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 I forgot to mention that to the mouthwash made with sodium ascorbate (alkaline) should be added sea salt. Sorry about the omission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Today, I went to a seminar on regeneration of tooth enamel and gums. We were taught to ingest 1 heap teaspoonful of horsetail powder for ten days then pause for a few days and resume another 10 days, and repeat until tooth enamel or gum has regenerated. Clean teeth real well with powdered toothpaste which he made consisting mostly of red dock, chapparal, dried powdered pine gums, etc. and to avoid commercial toothpaste, sugar and alcohol in the mouth. Massage gums as well. If there is pain, you can make a poultice of the prickly pear mature leaf. Do not use skin and fiber. Make the poultice big by cutting a big square of the pulp with its gel in it and insert between cheek and tooth of aching tooth. If tooth has cavity, fill up with special powdered toothpaste. Do poultice every four or six hours a day. Eat a healthy diet. The prickly pear poultice can be used for stings, burns, wounds, etc. as well. --- In , " " <@...> wrote: > > > I forgot to mention that to the mouthwash made with sodium ascorbate (alkaline) should be added sea salt. > Sorry about the omission. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 I haven't had this but a toothpaste like Sensodyne has a slight anesthetic in it to help sensitive teeth. deb > > > > I have a new symptom that comes & goes with my other herxes: tooth sensitivity to hot and cold! It's not just one tooth -- it's all areas of my mouth. The pain shoots up from my mouth and into my head. I have had it for a couple of days now-- since I upped my dosage of Buh herbs. Has anyone experienced this, or have success with any of the " extended " protocol recommendations for this type of thing in the book? > > IMHO this is pretty normal for Lyme symptoms and for herx reactions as well. I have experienced similar issues during treatment and they gradually faded (took many weeks though). Sorry, but I don't have a specific recommentation for you. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 I have shooting nerve pain and sensitivity in my teeth/gums. I used teeth whitener once and it made me so ultra sensitive I could barely function. I would avoid that. Sensodyne I use twice a day and I floss and use mouthwash...that seems to help too Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T [ ] Re: Sensitive teeth I haven't had this but a toothpaste like Sensodyne has a slight anesthetic in it to help sensitive teeth. deb > > > > I have a new symptom that comes & goes with my other herxes: tooth sensitivity to hot and cold! It's not just one tooth -- it's all areas of my mouth. The pain shoots up from my mouth and into my head. I have had it for a couple of days now-- since I upped my dosage of Buh herbs. Has anyone experienced this, or have success with any of the " extended " protocol recommendations for this type of thing in the book? > > IMHO this is pretty normal for Lyme symptoms and for herx reactions as well. I have experienced similar issues during treatment and they gradually faded (took many weeks though). Sorry, but I don't have a specific recommentation for you. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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