Guest guest Posted March 25, 2004 Report Share Posted March 25, 2004 Well I just left 18 months working as a Hemodiaylsis Nurse...... So if it comes to that then dialysis pts can have a quality of life that I did not understand before I worked in the field...... with that said..... anecdotal evidence (which in mainstream medicine the AP is anecdotal) TNJ help to improve renal function.. Tahiti Noni Juice... Do not be confused by any Noni there are nearly 200 other companies selling noni... but does not meet the quality of TNJ... theses are called phony Noni's A loading dose for you probably would be 1 oz 10-12 times a day....x 30 -60 days........ then 4 oz a day for 2 months then 1-2 oz. a day forever.... It is quite expensive... I can offline you various articles about the noni unless there is a place I can post them so all can see the articles..... TNJ is quite expensive our cost is 35.00 per 33 oz bottle......we sell it to friends and family at cost.... the distributor that you deal with should give a 30 day guarantee... I always give a 90 day guarantee..... But again I'm not trying to sell anything on this group just letting you know what has worked for others... I'm sure there is distributor near you. Carmen had been on the Noni and it did wonders for her pain and energy levels mike rheumatic kidney failure > I used to be on the AP and was a faily active member of this list. A > hypersensitivity to Minocin developed and I have only been receiving > a digest from the list. I have had RA since 1990 and am presently > taking 2 mg prednisone, 50 mg Imuran. and glucosomine/chondrotin > daily. I am also on two blood pressure meds. > > My nephrologist called yesterday and said that I woill more than > likely be on kidney dialysis in 1 month. (I took many NSAIDS before > and after the AP). My kidney function is 13%, my creatnine is 3.3 > and my phosphate levels are up. > > Do any of you know anything I can do to stop this kidney failure? > > Blessings to you all. > > Joyce > > > > > > To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Oh , Didn't I tell you NO more illnesses??? I'm sorry sweetie that you have this... Hubbies Mother was on pills for hers for many years, before having to go on dialysis... Prayers coming your way... Love Ya ((( Soft Hugs ))) Mom I was told the other day that I am in early stages of kidney failure. I have been letting it sink in. I knew my kidneys were bad, but I didn't think they were failing already. They gave me some kind of medicine there, and don't seem to be too concerned. I guess I don't have to do dialysis yet, they seem to think these pills will make everything better. I don't even know the name of them yet...I'm just in shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Oh sweetie! It sounds like the doctors are doing a good job at starting early in your care.Some people take meds YEARS before they need dialysis. Hopefully the pills will help you. -- Kidney failure I was told the other day that I am in early stages of kidney failure. I have been letting it sink in. I knew my kidneys were bad, but I didn't think they were failing already. They gave me some kind of medicine there, and don't seem to be too concerned. I guess I don't have to do dialysis yet, they seem to think these pills will make everything better. I don't even know the name of them yet...I'm just in shock. "We delight in the beauty of the butterfly, but rarely admit the changes it has gone through to achieve that beauty." ~ Maya Angelou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 , I am sorry to hear about this new challenge for you. I wish you the very best. Shirley Kidney failure I was told the other day that I am in early stages of kidney failure. I have been letting it sink in. I knew my kidneys were bad, but I didn't think they were failing already. They gave me some kind of medicine there, and don't seem to be too concerned. I guess I don't have to do dialysis yet, they seem to think these pills will make everything better. I don't even know the name of them yet...I'm just in shock. "We delight in the beauty of the butterfly, but rarely admit the changes it has gone through to achieve that beauty." ~ Maya Angelou ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ The Being Sick CommunityMessage Archives-/messagesChat:- Scheduled Chats at /chatBookmarks:-Add a website URL you have found useful./linksPersonal Complaints or problems:-Please contact a moderator email: -owner Subscription Details:-1) Individual email - means that every email sent to the list you receive.2) Daily Digest - sends you 25 messages in one single email for you to browse. This is an excellent option if you receive alot of email.3) Web only/No mail - means that you can pop into groups at your convenience and receive no email.To modify your subscription settings please visit:- /joinTo subscribe or unsubscribe please email:--subscribe -unsubscribe This group is not intended to diagnose or treat illnesses. No one on this group is qualified to diagnose medical conditions. If you feel you need medical attention, seek the advice of a qualified physician.~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~When nothing is sure, everything is possible.--- Margaret Drabble~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Hi  I did stumble across that a while back just last week I bought my mom some COQ10 and Some vitamin D. I can't believe the doctor hadn't told her to take Vitamin D. When are Kidneys fail they stop producing that vitamin. But thank you so much for helping me out. If you or anyone else happen to find anything else that is helpful please keep me posted.  Take care and God Bless. From: Bag <@...> Subject: Kidney Failure Coconut Oil Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 5:02 PM  Don,  Research/Google " COQ10 + kidney failure " . You'd be surprised. Print it and show it to your Mom's doctor. There are many websites on this subject. Your eyes will pop out!!!  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Clay protocol will cure him. Try google clay forums. In France they have a very good french illite clay.Dacian, try it as well.Dave.From: willienorthwind <willienorthwind@...>Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:34 PM Subject: [ ] kidney failure hi everyone here, i am asking these questions on behalf of my friend cause he is french,lol,me i speak a little bit of english heheeh,so we would like to know if mms 1 or 2 could help him,,he is with both of is kidneys on dialyse(dont know if i spell right??)due too diabete?(same here! heh)so he as to go get is blood clean twice a week,,,now we need help to know if we can help him with mms without hurting him more thank you,,,Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | [The entire original message is not included] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Fles wrote: > Clay protocol will cure him. Try google clay forums. In France they have > a very good french illite clay. > > Dacian, try it as well. I didn't know it was specifically good for diabetic kidney failure... thanks for the tip. source for info on clays is: www.eytonsearth.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Well, with him already being on dialysis it's hard to say what will help--but I have a 65 year old friend who's kidneys were functioning at only 1/3 normal capacity. They told her this happens in 'old age' and didn't put her on medicine, but told her to be careful of what she ate, and drink a lot of water, blah blah--because if it got worse she'd have to go on dialysis. When she told me I suggested powdered zeolite, as I know another person that claimed it saved her kidney. I told my friend that I had no proof, but that it certainly wouldn't hurt her to try. The other person I met used Wayoria NCD, that really expensive liquid zeolite. Since I had done a lot of research before on zeolite I've come to the conclusion that it's best to buy powder and either take it plain on a spoon or to mix it into a liquid yourself, and not pay for any liquid zeolite. So my friend ordered some zeolite from the web. She tried taking a tablespoon of it, and didn't like doing that, so since she had a capsule machine she filled 12 capsules a day with powdered zeolite, and took 6 in the morning and 6 in the evening. In one month she went back to her doctor, who ran more tests and her kidneys were up to 95% function! He refused to ask what she was doing because he knows she likes alternative stuff, but told her whatever she was doing, to keep doing it. She quit taking the zeolite and it's been 6 months and her kidneys are still fine. Personally I'd still be taking zeolite once a week or so, or one week out of each month, just to KEEP them working at capacity. But--she's happy and feeling great, and doesn't like taking pills, so she stopped and is still good. Notice--I did not say cured. Samala, -------Original Message------- He is with both of is kidneys on dialyse(dont know if i spell right??)due too diabete?(same here! heh)so he as to go get is blood clean twice a week,,,now we need help to know if we can help him with mms without hurting him more thank you,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 ,Will zeolite help with lung cancer? Any suggestions would help. Regards, MiandadFrom: "" <gaiacita@...>Sender: Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:04:59 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)< >Reply Subject: Re: [ ] kidney failure Well, with him already being on dialysis it's hard to say what will help--but I have a 65 year old friend who's kidneys were functioning at only 1/3 normal capacity. They told her this happens in 'old age' and didn't put her on medicine, but told her to be careful of what she ate, and drink a lot of water, blah blah--because if it got worse she'd have to go on dialysis. When she told me I suggested powdered zeolite, as I know another person that claimed it saved her kidney. I told my friend that I had no proof, but that it certainly wouldn't hurt her to try. The other person I met used Wayoria NCD, that really expensive liquid zeolite. Since I had done a lot of research before on zeolite I've come to the conclusion that it's best to buy powder and either take it plain on a spoon or to mix it into a liquid yourself, and not pay for any liquid zeolite. So my friend ordered some zeolite from the web. She tried taking a tablespoon of it, and didn't like doing that, so since she had a capsule machine she filled 12 capsules a day with powdered zeolite, and took 6 in the morning and 6 in the evening. In one month she went back to her doctor, who ran more tests and her kidneys were up to 95% function! He refused to ask what she was doing because he knows she likes alternative stuff, but told her whatever she was doing, to keep doing it. She quit taking the zeolite and it's been 6 months and her kidneys are still fine. Personally I'd still be taking zeolite once a week or so, or one week out of each month, just to KEEP them working at capacity. But--she's happy and feeling great, and doesn't like taking pills, so she stopped and is still good. Notice--I did not say cured. Samala, -------Original Message------- He is with both of is kidneys on dialyse(dont know if i spell right??)due too diabete?(same here! heh)so he as to go get is blood clean twice a week,,,now we need help to know if we can help him with mms without hurting him more thank you,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 It's hard to say as I don't think I've ever read where it was used specifically for that. But--it takes all toxins out of the body. It is not an immune booster, but binds with unhealthy toxins and ushers them out of the body. So--it would probably be a useful addition to any protocol. I know the NCD liquid is hyped a lot and there are thousands of testimonials about it. You'd have to search to see if there was anything specific for lung cancer. Because it's an MLM product, they put a lot of money into getting it into people's hands, and so if there would be any testimonials about lung cancer and zeolite, it would be there. And if you find it, then you know that the powder would work great and not cost so much as the NCD. It's Waiora NCD. It seems to do a lot more than a person would think, so I would add it to whatever protocol is being used for the lung cancer. Samala, -------Original Message------- Will zeolite help with lung cancer? Any suggestions would help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 ,I just read that zeolite is good at reducing tumors on cancertutor web. I guess its worth a try. Thanks. Regards, MiandadFrom: "" <gaiacita@...>Sender: Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:01:24 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)< >Reply Subject: Re: [ ] kidney failure It's hard to say as I don't think I've ever read where it was used specifically for that. But--it takes all toxins out of the body. It is not an immune booster, but binds with unhealthy toxins and ushers them out of the body. So--it would probably be a useful addition to any protocol. I know the NCD liquid is hyped a lot and there are thousands of testimonials about it. You'd have to search to see if there was anything specific for lung cancer. Because it's an MLM product, they put a lot of money into getting it into people's hands, and so if there would be any testimonials about lung cancer and zeolite, it would be there. And if you find it, then you know that the powder would work great and not cost so much as the NCD. It's Waiora NCD. It seems to do a lot more than a person would think, so I would add it to whatever protocol is being used for the lung cancer. Samala, -------Original Message------- Will zeolite help with lung cancer? Any suggestions would help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Hi As you mention you did a lot of research and come to the conclusion powder Zeolite is best (mixed with some liquid like water) can you indicate a good source?I found this and looks interesting (there are more Zeolite items related)http://www.amazon.com/Zeolite-Pure-440-powder-Health/dp/B0010XOD8QthanksPS: I hope I'm allowed to give links, I have no interest with amazon.From: <gaiacita@...>Subject: Re: [ ] kidney failure Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 1:04 AM Well, with him already being on dialysis it's hard to say what will help--but I have a 65 year old friend who's kidneys were functioning at only 1/3 normal capacity. They told her this happens in 'old age' and didn't put her on medicine, but told her to be careful of what she ate, and drink a lot of water, blah blah--because if it got worse she'd have to go on dialysis. When she told me I suggested powdered zeolite, as I know another person that claimed it saved her kidney. I told my friend that I had no proof, but that it certainly wouldn't hurt her to try. The other person I met used Wayoria NCD, that really expensive liquid zeolite. Since I had done a lot of research before on zeolite I've come to the conclusion that it's best to buy powder and either take it plain on a spoon or to mix it into a liquid yourself, and not pay for any liquid zeolite. So my friend ordered some zeolite from the web. She tried taking a tablespoon of it, and didn't like doing that, so since she had a capsule machine she filled 12 capsules a day with powdered zeolite, and took 6 in the morning and 6 in the evening. In one month she went back to her doctor, who ran more tests and her kidneys were up to 95% function! He refused to ask what she was doing because he knows she likes alternative stuff, but told her whatever she was doing, to keep doing it. She quit taking the zeolite and it's been 6 months and her kidneys are still fine. Personally I'd still be taking zeolite once a week or so, or one week out of each month, just to KEEP them working at capacity. But--she's happy and feeling great, and doesn't like taking pills, so she stopped and is still good. Notice--I did not say cured. Samala, -------Original Message----- -- He is with both of is kidneys on dialyse(dont know if i spell right??)due too diabete?(same here! heh)so he as to go get is blood clean twice a week,,,now we need help to know if we can help him with mms without hurting him more thank you,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Hi !I would liketo by some liquid zeolite, urgently! where do I do that, do you know ?kind regards, Sofia.From: <gaiacita@...> Sent: Wed, July 21, 2010 12:04:59 AMSubject: Re: [ ] kidney failure Well, with him already being on dialysis it's hard to say what will help--but I have a 65 year old friend who's kidneys were functioning at only 1/3 normal capacity. They told her this happens in 'old age' and didn't put her on medicine, but told her to be careful of what she ate, and drink a lot of water, blah blah--because if it got worse she'd have to go on dialysis. When she told me I suggested powdered zeolite, as I know another person that claimed it saved her kidney. I told my friend that I had no proof, but that it certainly wouldn't hurt her to try. The other person I met used Wayoria NCD, that really expensive liquid zeolite. Since I had done a lot of research before on zeolite I've come to the conclusion that it's best to buy powder and either take it plain on a spoon or to mix it into a liquid yourself, and not pay for any liquid zeolite. So my friend ordered some zeolite from the web. She tried taking a tablespoon of it, and didn't like doing that, so since she had a capsule machine she filled 12 capsules a day with powdered zeolite, and took 6 in the morning and 6 in the evening. In one month she went back to her doctor, who ran more tests and her kidneys were up to 95% function! He refused to ask what she was doing because he knows she likes alternative stuff, but told her whatever she was doing, to keep doing it. She quit taking the zeolite and it's been 6 months and her kidneys are still fine. Personally I'd still be taking zeolite once a week or so, or one week out of each month, just to KEEP them working at capacity. But--she's happy and feeling great, and doesn't like taking pills, so she stopped and is still good. Notice--I did not say cured. Samala, -------Original Message----- -- He is with both of is kidneys on dialyse(dont know if i spell right??)due too diabete?(same here! heh)so he as to go get is blood clean twice a week,,,now we need help to know if we can help him with mms without hurting him more thank you,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Another question, next to the protocol you're talking about (6 capsules of powder Zeolite twice a day), are you aware of another protocol, especially for cancer (stage 3)? Would you start slowly (for a week say) and go up to 12 capsules a day (what is spoons equivalent btw)? Are there any reactions from Zeolite which will indicate you're taking too much?thanksFrom: <gaiacita@...>Subject: Re: [ ] kidney failure Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 1:04 AM Well, with him already being on dialysis it's hard to say what will help--but I have a 65 year old friend who's kidneys were functioning at only 1/3 normal capacity. They told her this happens in 'old age' and didn't put her on medicine, but told her to be careful of what she ate, and drink a lot of water, blah blah--because if it got worse she'd have to go on dialysis. When she told me I suggested powdered zeolite, as I know another person that claimed it saved her kidney. I told my friend that I had no proof, but that it certainly wouldn't hurt her to try. The other person I met used Wayoria NCD, that really expensive liquid zeolite. Since I had done a lot of research before on zeolite I've come to the conclusion that it's best to buy powder and either take it plain on a spoon or to mix it into a liquid yourself, and not pay for any liquid zeolite. So my friend ordered some zeolite from the web. She tried taking a tablespoon of it, and didn't like doing that, so since she had a capsule machine she filled 12 capsules a day with powdered zeolite, and took 6 in the morning and 6 in the evening. In one month she went back to her doctor, who ran more tests and her kidneys were up to 95% function! He refused to ask what she was doing because he knows she likes alternative stuff, but told her whatever she was doing, to keep doing it. She quit taking the zeolite and it's been 6 months and her kidneys are still fine. Personally I'd still be taking zeolite once a week or so, or one week out of each month, just to KEEP them working at capacity. But--she's happy and feeling great, and doesn't like taking pills, so she stopped and is still good. Notice--I did not say cured. Samala, -------Original Message----- -- He is with both of is kidneys on dialyse(dont know if i spell right??)due too diabete?(same here! heh)so he as to go get is blood clean twice a week,,,now we need help to know if we can help him with mms without hurting him more thank you,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Thanks for all the reply,,now I have clay,,zeolite,,,for helping my friend.ok no one as taking mms for that? Who I should talk to for the clay? And zeolite? I am fairly new to all this and appreciate all the time you guys put in the replies,,,thanks Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell.From: "willienorthwind" <willienorthwind@...>Sender: Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:34:07 -0000< >Reply Subject: [ ] kidney failure hi everyone here, i am asking these questions on behalf of my friend cause he is french,lol,me i speak a little bit of english heheeh,so we would like to know if mms 1 or 2 could help him,,he is with both of is kidneys on dialyse(dont know if i spell right??)due too diabete?(same here! heh)so he as to go get is blood clean twice a week,,,now we need help to know if we can help him with mms without hurting him more thank you,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 I don't know of any reactions to zeolite. The dosage is a tablespoon up to twice a day. My friend simply didn't care for the dry zeolite in her mouth, so encapsulated it. She also didn't like it mixed with liquid--which is how most people take it. Just put a spoon of it into water (pretty tasteless) or juice (you can't taste it at all). Drink quickly before it settles out. It's great for cancer as it will take out toxins. Remember, it doesn't kill things directly so you certainly need a full cancer protocol that works on that, and then the zeolite (and clay) bind the toxins and take them out. Personally, I would take both clay and zeolite if I had cancer. They are a good combination. I use to think they were the same thing, as zeolite is the layer above clay, but actually they do function slightly differently. So I think between the two it's a good combo for an illness. For maintaining health, either one is fine, and only one is necessary. Many people like a good calcium bentonite clay. Just always be sure to drink lots of liquid--preferable good water--when on any zeolite or clay, as this helps flush them through the system and keeps the clay from causing constipation. As with anything, start slowly and build up. It's not that either of these will hurt a person, but when a person is ill, it's always best to go slow and see how they react. You just never know, as each person is different. Besides, if the person is on a lot of other supplements, then the zeolite and clay need to be taken apart from it so that it doesn't bind with and take out something you want to stay in. Some say this doesn't happen--but I say, why take the chance? An hour or so separation is fine. For clay people usually start with liquid clay, which is 1 ounce clay to 8 ounces water, shake good, wait about 20 minutes then shake again. Then you take 1 ounce of this, twice a day. Many people start with this and then build up to 4 or 6 ounces a day when ill, but maintenance is 2 ounces a day usually. More does not hurt. Again--just make sure the person drinks a glass of water after taking some zeolite or liquid clay. Samala, Samala, -- Re: [ ] kidney failure Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 1:04 AM Well, with him already being on dialysis it's hard to say what will help--but I have a 65 year old friend who's kidneys were functioning at only 1/3 normal capacity. They told her this happens in 'old age' and didn't put her on medicine, but told her to be careful of what she ate, and drink a lot of water, blah blah--because if it got worse she'd have to go on dialysis. When she told me I suggested powdered zeolite, as I know another person that claimed it saved her kidney. I told my friend that I had no proof, but that it certainly wouldn't hurt her to try. The other person I met used Wayoria NCD, that really expensive liquid zeolite. Since I had done a lot of research before on zeolite I've come to the conclusion that it's best to buy powder and either take it plain on a spoon or to mix it into a liquid yourself, and not pay for any liquid zeolite. So my friend ordered some zeolite from the web. She tried taking a tablespoon of it, and didn't like doing that, so since she had a capsule machine she filled 12 capsules a day with powdered zeolite, and took 6 in the morning and 6 in the evening. In one month she went back to her doctor, who ran more tests and her kidneys were up to 95% function! He refused to ask what she was doing because he knows she likes alternative stuff, but told her whatever she was doing, to keep doing it. She quit taking the zeolite and it's been 6 months and her kidneys are still fine. Personally I'd still be taking zeolite once a week or so, or one week out of each month, just to KEEP them working at capacity. But--she's happy and feeling great, and doesn't like taking pills, so she stopped and is still good. Notice--I did not say cured. Samala, -------Original Message----- -- He is with both of is kidneys on dialyse(dont know if i spell right??)due too diabete?(same here! heh)so he as to go get is blood clean twice a week,,,now we need help to know if we can help him with mms without hurting him more thank you,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 No, I don't have a preferred place to buy, but you can certainly Google for liquid zeolite. You don't need the Waiora NCD, very very expensive and no better than any other liquid zeolite no matter what they say. Here's a couple good ones, I think, though it is always best to do your own research. http://bestzeolite.com/ http://www.healthproductscenter.com/Liquid-Zeolite.html http://www.zeoliteheadquarters.com/ Here's some good info http://www.i-amperfectlyhealthy.com/NaturalLiquidZeolite.html And http://www.zeolite.com/ And http://liquidzeoliteonline.com/?page_id=4 Remember, most of what you will read will be glowing testimonials for NCD liquid zeolite and this is because the MLM company has the money to run the tests and push marketing. There are other good liquid zeolites out there, and you need to do a bit of research so you understand what zeolite can and can not do, and help make a decision whether to buy a pre-made liquid or buy powder and make your own. A good company you might want to talk to is the www.zeostore.com they sell the powder, but had told me they were thinking of making their own liquid. The lady that wrote me was very nice and helpful. When you go to that site I think it's her photo on the first page. Perhaps you should call her, or write her, and see what she says. I purchase my zeolite (and the zeolite my friend used) from the zeostore, based on their information about medical grade, fine, medium grades, etc. Samala, -------Original Message------- I would liketo by some liquid zeolite, urgently! where do I do that, do you know ?kind regards, Sofia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 I preferred the zeolite from www.zeostore.com at the time I bought it they were a lot cheaper than they are now. They are the suppliers of a very high quality powder at a great price then. It's still a good price, simply not as good as before. Guess they realized how good their product was and how popular zeolite was getting, and raised their prices. Still--it's cheaper than most places and a very high quality. The lady is very helpful--so do write her with any questions you may have. They have several grades to choose from, depending on what you want to do with it. Samala, -- Re: [ ] kidney failure Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 1:04 AM Well, with him already being on dialysis it's hard to say what will help--but I have a 65 year old friend who's kidneys were functioning at only 1/3 normal capacity. They told her this happens in 'old age' and didn't put her on medicine, but told her to be careful of what she ate, and drink a lot of water, blah blah--because if it got worse she'd have to go on dialysis. When she told me I suggested powdered zeolite, as I know another person that claimed it saved her kidney. I told my friend that I had no proof, but that it certainly wouldn't hurt her to try. The other person I met used Wayoria NCD, that really expensive liquid zeolite. Since I had done a lot of research before on zeolite I've come to the conclusion that it's best to buy powder and either take it plain on a spoon or to mix it into a liquid yourself, and not pay for any liquid zeolite. So my friend ordered some zeolite from the web. She tried taking a tablespoon of it, and didn't like doing that, so since she had a capsule machine she filled 12 capsules a day with powdered zeolite, and took 6 in the morning and 6 in the evening. In one month she went back to her doctor, who ran more tests and her kidneys were up to 95% function! He refused to ask what she was doing because he knows she likes alternative stuff, but told her whatever she was doing, to keep doing it. She quit taking the zeolite and it's been 6 months and her kidneys are still fine. Personally I'd still be taking zeolite once a week or so, or one week out of each month, just to KEEP them working at capacity. But--she's happy and feeling great, and doesn't like taking pills, so she stopped and is still good. Notice--I did not say cured. Samala, -------Original Message----- -- He is with both of is kidneys on dialyse(dont know if i spell right??)due too diabete?(same here! heh)so he as to go get is blood clean twice a week,,,now we need help to know if we can help him with mms without hurting him more thank you,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Ok , thanks for your response.I understand from what you're saying Zeolite does no harm (at least not reported). The question is, if Zeolite binds to toxins and take them out, what do I need killing the toxin first? All I want is the toxin to get out.Now, how what do you think about combining the MMS protocol for cancer in order to kill parasites plus Zeolite (1 hour separated?) to take them out? Of course, adapting both depending how the patient reacts.Thanks kindly! From: <gaiacitagmail (DOT) com>Subject: Re: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] kidney failuremiracle_mineral_ supplementDate: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 1:04 AM Well, with him already being on dialysis it's hard to say what will help--but I have a 65 year old friend who's kidneys were functioning at only 1/3 normal capacity. They told her this happens in 'old age' and didn't put her on medicine, but told her to be careful of what she ate, and drink a lot of water, blah blah--because if it got worse she'd have to go on dialysis. When she told me I suggested powdered zeolite, as I know another person that claimed it saved her kidney. I told my friend that I had no proof, but that it certainly wouldn't hurt her to try. The other person I met used Wayoria NCD, that really expensive liquid zeolite. Since I had done a lot of research before on zeolite I've come to the conclusion that it's best to buy powder and either take it plain on a spoon or to mix it into a liquid yourself, and not pay for any liquid zeolite. So my friend ordered some zeolite from the web. She tried taking a tablespoon of it, and didn't like doing that, so since she had a capsule machine she filled 12 capsules a day with powdered zeolite, and took 6 in the morning and 6 in the evening. In one month she went back to her doctor, who ran more tests and her kidneys were up to 95% function! He refused to ask what she was doing because he knows she likes alternative stuff, but told her whatever she was doing, to keep doing it. She quit taking the zeolite and it's been 6 months and her kidneys are still fine. Personally I'd still be taking zeolite once a week or so, or one week out of each month, just to KEEP them working at capacity. But--she's happy and feeling great, and doesn't like taking pills, so she stopped and is still good. Notice--I did not say cured. Samala, -------Original Message----- -- He is with both of is kidneys on dialyse(dont know if i spell right??)due too diabete?(same here! heh)so he as to go get is blood clean twice a week,,,now we need help to know if we can help him with mms without hurting him more thank you,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Yes, I would certainly add it (and/or clay) to any protocol. Naturally, not to be relied on by itself, but as an addition, I think it's a wonderful idea. Because any other thing you are doing will help create toxins by killing the tumor/cancer/disease and these toxins need to be removed, plus the disease itself is creating toxins. Zeolite and clay are excellent at removal. Just always be sure to drink plenty of liquid when on these. Samala, -------Original Message------- I just read that zeolite is good at reducing tumors on cancertutor web. I guess its worth a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Everyone has toxins--whether they are sick or not. We get them from the environment. Clay and zeolite are known to take heavy metals out. Though there is no proof, I think MMS also takes it out because of my story I posted here before. In any case--I think zeolite or clay is good for anyone today. But dealing with illness, the idea is to kill cancer cells, or fungus, or virus, etc. Their dying creates toxins, as does their living. So--imperative to get them out. Since MMS is a known killer but not known for sure about removing the toxins, I think the 2 is a good combo. Take the MMS, kill the bad guys, and use zeolite/clay to escort them out of the system. I think, again, that I would not rely on just MMS and zeolite to fight cancer. I'd be doing many, many things--there's a great anti-cancer protocol on the oleander soup list. If you go to the files section there, I believe it is listed. If not, ask on the list where to find it. The list owner, Tony, has his own web site where all kinds of health things are listed and I know his anti-cancer protocol is there. He has one of the most level headed antic-cancer routines I've seen, though he doesn't believe in MMS. Personally, I'd be on most of his protocol WITH the addition of MMS and zeolite/clay. The oleander list address is oleandersoup/ Samala, -- Re: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] kidney failuremiracle_mineral_ supplementDate: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 1:04 AM Well, with him already being on dialysis it's hard to say what will help--but I have a 65 year old friend who's kidneys were functioning at only 1/3 normal capacity. They told her this happens in 'old age' and didn't put her on medicine, but told her to be careful of what she ate, and drink a lot of water, blah blah--because if it got worse she'd have to go on dialysis. When she told me I suggested powdered zeolite, as I know another person that claimed it saved her kidney. I told my friend that I had no proof, but that it certainly wouldn't hurt her to try. The other person I met used Wayoria NCD, that really expensive liquid zeolite. Since I had done a lot of research before on zeolite I've come to the conclusion that it's best to buy powder and either take it plain on a spoon or to mix it into a liquid yourself, and not pay for any liquid zeolite. So my friend ordered some zeolite from the web. She tried taking a tablespoon of it, and didn't like doing that, so since she had a capsule machine she filled 12 capsules a day with powdered zeolite, and took 6 in the morning and 6 in the evening. In one month she went back to her doctor, who ran more tests and her kidneys were up to 95% function! He refused to ask what she was doing because he knows she likes alternative stuff, but told her whatever she was doing, to keep doing it. She quit taking the zeolite and it's been 6 months and her kidneys are still fine. Personally I'd still be taking zeolite once a week or so, or one week out of each month, just to KEEP them working at capacity. But--she's happy and feeling great, and doesn't like taking pills, so she stopped and is still good. Notice--I did not say cured. Samala, -------Original Message----- -- He is with both of is kidneys on dialyse(dont know if i spell right??)due too diabete?(same here! heh)so he as to go get is blood clean twice a week,,,now we need help to know if we can help him with mms without hurting him more thank you,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 I don't know as how MMS would be good for kidney failure. I suppose it would depend on what caused the failure. If it was bacteria then yes MMS would be good. But, since MMS can be harsh, especially for ill people (many need to start out at just a half drop) it would be something to take much more monitoring than it would to take zeolite or clay. And since zeolite is known to help restore kidney function (though not, that I have ever seen, from someone already on dialysis) it would be my product of choice in this matter. Of course, since the whole body should be supported when something happens to any organ, I'd be boosting the immune system, taking lots of C, other herbs, eating a great diet, juicing/blending would be part of that diet, some exercise, etc. You need to look at the whole person and not just one specific item. You support the whole body AND give extra attention to the area in need. What kind of questions do you have about the clay and zeolite? Samala, -------Original Message------- Thanks for all the reply,,now I have clay,,zeolite,,,for helping my friend.ok no one as taking mms for that? Who I should talk to for the clay? And zeolite? I am fairly new to all this and appreciate all the time you guys put in the replies,,,thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 yep, I started to read on oleander as it was suggested here by someone yesterday.Thanks Rennee for your replies! From: <gaiacitagmail (DOT) com>Subject: Re: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] kidney failuremiracle_mineral_ supplementDate: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 1:04 AM Well, with him already being on dialysis it's hard to say what will help--but I have a 65 year old friend who's kidneys were functioning at only 1/3 normal capacity. They told her this happens in 'old age' and didn't put her on medicine, but told her to be careful of what she ate, and drink a lot of water, blah blah--because if it got worse she'd have to go on dialysis. When she told me I suggested powdered zeolite, as I know another person that claimed it saved her kidney. I told my friend that I had no proof, but that it certainly wouldn't hurt her to try. The other person I met used Wayoria NCD, that really expensive liquid zeolite. Since I had done a lot of research before on zeolite I've come to the conclusion that it's best to buy powder and either take it plain on a spoon or to mix it into a liquid yourself, and not pay for any liquid zeolite. So my friend ordered some zeolite from the web. She tried taking a tablespoon of it, and didn't like doing that, so since she had a capsule machine she filled 12 capsules a day with powdered zeolite, and took 6 in the morning and 6 in the evening. In one month she went back to her doctor, who ran more tests and her kidneys were up to 95% function! He refused to ask what she was doing because he knows she likes alternative stuff, but told her whatever she was doing, to keep doing it. She quit taking the zeolite and it's been 6 months and her kidneys are still fine. Personally I'd still be taking zeolite once a week or so, or one week out of each month, just to KEEP them working at capacity. But--she's happy and feeling great, and doesn't like taking pills, so she stopped and is still good. Notice--I did not say cured. Samala, -------Original Message----- -- He is with both of is kidneys on dialyse(dont know if i spell right??)due too diabete?(same here! heh)so he as to go get is blood clean twice a week,,,now we need help to know if we can help him with mms without hurting him more thank you,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 On 2010-07-21 12:20 PM, fiordean dacian <dfiordean@...> wrote: > Now, how what do you think about combining the MMS protocol for cancer > in order to kill parasites I'm not sure MMS kills all parasites, or even most, but parasites are a concern, I would use food grade diatamacous earth internally... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 On 2010-07-21 12:20 PM, <gaiacita@...> wrote: > Zeolite and clay are excellent at removal. Don't forget about activated charcoal! I use a 50/50 combo of bamboo and coconut shell based charcoal from: www.buyactivatedcharcoal.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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