Guest guest Posted April 4, 2002 Report Share Posted April 4, 2002 Wow, That is amazing. How often for how long, on average, of course. Thanks, Donna ----- Original Message ----- Dear Greg, Ozone ear insufflation does the trick. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH --------------------------------------------------- Can anyone tell me if there are things an elderly person can do to stop/turn around macular degeneration? Thanks. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2002 Report Share Posted April 4, 2002 Erma asked: How much of the eyebright do you use per oz of distilled water? Jackie replies: It is a concentrated solution that you use a drop or two in an eye cup with distilled water and rinse the eye. Because there is cayenne in it you won't use to much more than once. I had difficulty finding glass eye cups at pharmacies, they all had the plastic ones and I don't do plastic. But ended up finding great eye cups on e-bay as collectors items. I got 2 plain clear glass ones for $7.50. If you need something right away ask your pharmacist. (You probably won't self-destruct if you use plastic. It is a personal issue with me.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2002 Report Share Posted April 4, 2002 Dear Erma, Daily for 6 - 8 months. It will reverse it. We have seen 20/70 vision improve to 20/30 in 8 months. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH ------------------------------------------------- Reply-To: oxyplus To: oxyplus Subject: Re: Macular degeneration Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 12:31:25 -0600 Saul, How often would you do this and for how long? Do you know whether it will reverse and cure it? Erma At 08:41 AM 4/4/02 +0000, you wrote: >Dear Greg, > >Ozone ear insufflation does the trick. > >Best of Health! >Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH >--------------------------------------------------- > > > >Reply-To: oxyplus >To: <oxyplus > >Subject: Macular degeneration >Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 21:45:44 -0500 > >Can anyone tell me if there are things an elderly person can do to stop/turn >around macular degeneration? Thanks. > >Greg > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2002 Report Share Posted April 5, 2002 Dear Greg, I have improved since I started taking HBOT. Since there is no protocol and scant recognition that HBOT helps macular degeneration, I have been flying by the seat of my pants, taking about 30 minutes each time at about 1.5 ATA, some times slightly less depth perhaps 1.3 ATA/ Again since there is no protocol and little recognition all we can do, those of us with macular degeneration is try to heal ourselves. Oh yes, I try to get at least 3 treatments each week. Manson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2002 Report Share Posted April 5, 2002 Dear Jim, Surely an inspiri;ng story about your mom and I would try the Ozone for my macular degeneration if I had a sauna. However I've had some success with our HBO chamber and as stated to Greg. its all part ; of our self help each other program. Excellent report as Macular degeneration will test all of us if we live long enough Manson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2002 Report Share Posted May 18, 2002 Re: Re: Macular degeneration > <<Can anyone tell me if there are things an elderly person can do to > stop/turn around macular degeneration? Thanks. Greg>> > ---------------- > Hi Greg. Someone recently posted on the Beck-n-stuff list that tens units were being used to treat the eyes with great success. Someone who was blind from a detached retina actually had the retina reattach and vision return. Pretty amazing. > > You might go to the beck list and check the recent past messages for this info. > Donna You can also try spraying equal parts of Willard Water and Colloidal Silver into the eyes. Some places dilute their WW or make it improperly; but Nutrition Coalition is honest and sells the real thing. Their URL address is http://www.willardswater.com/ Regards, Nina Silver, Ph.D. Author, *The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing* Read the intro and order the book at http://www.healingheart-harmonics.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2002 Report Share Posted May 18, 2002 ----- Original Message ----- <<Can anyone tell me if there are things an elderly person can do to stop/turn around macular degeneration? Thanks. Greg>> ---------------- Hi Greg. Someone recently posted on the Beck-n-stuff list that tens units were being used to treat the eyes with great success. Someone who was blind from a detached retina actually had the retina reattach and vision return. Pretty amazing. You might go to the beck list and check the recent past messages for this info. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2002 Report Share Posted May 18, 2002 Dear Gregg, I can only tell you what I have done and I have been able to stop the degeneration and improve it somewhat. I had wet macular in one eye and dry in the other. First I had laser surgery by a Dr. Glaser in Bethesda, Md. for the wet and that slowed the process which was getting worse by the day. I started taking Bilberry and Lutein each morning and I began using the hyperbaric chamber sort of guessing at how many ATA's would be best and time periods as well as there is no protocol that I have seen in this nation or in any other on the proper protocol. Different people have reported success using variable protocols. A number of the hyperbaric nations have reported success in treating macular degeneration. As I said I can only report what I have experienced and I hope it will be helpful. I am 81 years old. My sister in Florida , 3 years older is virtually blind, completely so in one eye and can barely see out of the other, but she has done nothing except what her eye doctor prescribes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2002 Report Share Posted May 18, 2002 Dear Kallie, This Accuton CD player sounds interesting. Please let; me know if you find anyone who has used it successfully. I notice you have magnetic sleep pads and rebounders and I have been interested in these for some time. So, if you get any concrete results please let me know. I agree the HBO chamber is too expensive. Manson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2002 Report Share Posted May 18, 2002 Ozone ear insufflation is said to be extremely beneficial for this. So far, the ear insufflation has been most beneficial for me. Best, Ken Re: Re: Macular degeneration > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > <<Can anyone tell me if there are things an elderly person can do to > stop/turn around macular degeneration? Thanks. Greg>> > > ---------------- > Hi Greg. Someone recently posted on the Beck-n-stuff list that tens units were being used to treat the eyes with great success. Someone who was blind from a detached retina actually had the retina reattach and vision return. Pretty amazing. > > You might go to the beck list and check the recent past messages for this info. > Donna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2002 Report Share Posted May 18, 2002 1 cup pre-frozen blueberries every day ) They have to be frozen. · ´¨)) -:¦:- ~Jolene~ . .·´¨¨)) -:- Heal me,O Lord, & I shall be healed ((¸¸.· ..·´-:¦:- Born2BHealed@... -:¦:- ((¸¸. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2002 Report Share Posted May 18, 2002 Maybe your sister would be open to using the Accutone CD for eyesight problems. It only costs $100 plus $20 for a special antenna which broadcasts the frequencies 40 feet. All she needs is a CD player which she sets on repeat and plays 24/7. This is financially affordable to almost anyone while the hyperbaric chamber is rather costly. I cannot tell you from the ground of my own experience or observations if this will work. I can tell you I believe the man who developed it when he tells me it is effective. So much so that I have purchased a CD for my 87 year old father with macular degeneration. I have also purchased one for my son whose body is covered with moles. Through grace, I now also have the privilege of selling these CDs to those who want them. Special CDs can be made for cancer, autism, downs syndrome, MS etc. I have a list of stock Accutone CDs available for anyone who wishes to receive one. I again, would highly recommend the book by Dr. Hawkins, M.D.,Ph.D., " Power Vs Force, The Hidden Determinants of Human Behavior " and after that you might want to purchase his videos. I have just watched the first part of video #1 and my mind is spinning as a lot of my belief systems have been rocked. This is a powerful video based on a powerful book in my mind. I find myself wanting to show this video to everyone I love and care for. Attractor Field Therapy and the Accutone CDs have been developed from Dr. Hawkin's research. Blessings Kallie 4optimallife@... http://www.4optimallife.com Magnetic Sleep Pads, Zappers, Ionizing- Alkalizing Water Filters, Rebounders, Energy Therapies, Re: Re: Macular degeneration Dear Gregg, I can only tell you what I have done and I have been able to stop the degeneration and improve it somewhat. I had wet macular in one eye and dry in the other. First I had laser surgery by a Dr. Glaser in Bethesda, Md. for the wet and that slowed the process which was getting worse by the day. I started taking Bilberry and Lutein each morning and I began using the hyperbaric chamber sort of guessing at how many ATA's would be best and time periods as well as there is no protocol that I have seen in this nation or in any other on the proper protocol. Different people have reported success using variable protocols. A number of the hyperbaric nations have reported success in treating macular degeneration. As I said I can only report what I have experienced and I hope it will be helpful. I am 81 years old. My sister in Florida , 3 years older is virtually blind, completely so in one eye and can barely see out of the other, but she has done nothing except what her eye doctor prescribes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2002 Report Share Posted May 18, 2002 Hi I personally feel the magnetic sleep pads which go under the mattress and the rebounder and of course the Regenesis ionizer alkalizer are cornerstone supports in keeping the body in wellness along with exercise, nutrition etc.. I will be very happy to report the results of the CDs in improving the conditions people are using them for. I already know someone with breast cancer using the Cancer CD who is getting reduction in her breast tumor in just three weeks. She has also been doing EFT telephone sessions with me. I was unable to get an time frame from Dr. Ebert to expect to see the improvements in my father's macular degeneration. He is after all, 87 years of age. The protocol in the free manual says to tap every day for 6 months so I imagine it will be a while and I am certainly open to seeing results sooner. I purchased a special CD for my father which is to help him with his lung disease as well as his early dementia. He has a slight tremor with this so his progress may be quite obvious. Will keep in touch. They will be playing the CD 24/7. My mother who is well is looking forward to having memory improvements as that is part of the protocol for dementia. She is 85. Last week Dr. Ebert told me about the baby girl born with Down's Syndrome. They played an special accutone CD for her 24/7. At 20 months she was tested for her intelligence and tested at a 21 month level. I find that quite amazing. If you read, Power Vs Force and/or watch the video, you will understand how it is that I trust what Dr. Ebert says. These are very exciting times in which to live. Kallie 4optimallife@... http://www.4optimallife.com Magnetic Sleep Pads, Zappers, Ionizing- Alkalizing Water Filters, Rebounders, Energy Therapies, Re: Re: Macular degeneration Dear Kallie, This Accuton CD player sounds interesting. Please let; me know if you find anyone who has used it successfully. I notice you have magnetic sleep pads and rebounders and I have been interested in these for some time. So, if you get any concrete results please let me know. I agree the HBO chamber is too expensive. Manson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2002 Report Share Posted May 18, 2002 In a message dated 5/18/02 2:01:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ninas@... writes: << > <<Can anyone tell me if there are things an elderly person can do to > stop/turn around macular degeneration? Thanks. Greg>> Hi Greg, There was a letter in the Star Ledger New Jersey newspaper from someone who was taking Bilberry supplements to help combat the progression of macular degeneration. The doctor agreed that it helped the person's vision. The newspaper's nutritionist also agreed it was useful in treating visual problems. Cheers, Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 , I ordered one of the CD's for eye problems. I thought I'd try it for a while for my farsightedness, and then give it to my mom to try for her macular degeneration. She has the dry kind. She has been drinking a smoothie with frozen blueberries every day, taking lutein & bilberry, etc. in a Solaray product called Super Lutein. They also have a product called Vizion. Mom has used both. She also has started ear insufflation, and she thinks her eyesight has improved. I don't know how regularly she has been doing it. Anyway, where the disease began with the center of her vision becoming black, and the black grew. Now, the center of her vision is light, and the light is growing. jim FAMANSON@... wrote: > > Dear Kallie, > > This Accuton CD player sounds interesting. Please let; me know if you find > anyone who has used it successfully. I notice you have magnetic sleep pads > and rebounders and I have been interested in these for some time. So, if you > get any concrete results please let me know. I agree the HBO chamber is too > expensive. Manson -- " Roccy Raccoon is a stalker! " -- J. Clay Lambert jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience/home.html http://www.entrance.to/poetry/poems1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 Please look at http://www.hbot4u.com/rplisting.html For all of optical studies, MD is one this page Hope it helps www.hbot4u.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 Dear Jim, I'm not sure I understand how the CD works . I suppose it must be the frequency which triggers the return of vision. In any case if you get positive results please let me know. Also, I just posted Duncan on what type of Ozone machine he is using to help his macular degeneration. As you may recall I only have the inexpensive type that ozonates water through its plastic tube. What type of ozonator are you using with your Mom. It must be fairly simple if she is able to make it do its work. Also what type of protocol. I supposed how many minutes in each ear. Yes, I am taking the Bilberry and Lutein which I get from the Vitamin Shoppe. My eyesight is improving slowly from the HBO chamber, but I suspect what your Mom is doing is better. In any case I intend to get the type you have. Dr. Stauch has told me that MSM drops and Eyebright are both good, but I have only tried the MSM drops but not too frequently, so I haven't given it a fair trial. The Ozone hook up sounds the most promising. Actually I believe Ozone is the best answer for most all our ailments. Your friend, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 , I forgot to mention I ordered some of the isolated whey product Duncan recommended for my mom. She's been taking it about a month. I might hear something when I visit her soon. As for the CD, I'm not certain how it works, but frequency is a trigger for everything, so why not these things? I was halfway thru Dr. Hawkins' book when this subject came up. And, am interested in it mainly because I understand the foundation of discovery used for developing attractor field theory. So, while I don't understand how this doctor got from Hawkins' work to the tapping & CD's, Im impressed enough to try. I have seen stranger things work! My mom and I both have Plasmafire ozone generators. Mom has the model 60, I believe, and I have the new Alpha model. She uses 1/32 lpm for 5 minutes in each ear. She has done as little as 1 minute per ear for a while, to minimize itching. But, after giving herself a bigger dose one day, he vision improved noticeably the next. Still, she prefers the shorter period because her ears don't itch! So, the ozone can definitely do something for macular degeneration! The main reason I am so vague about my mom's improvement is that she is afraid to say out loud that her eyes are improving, because tthat might jinx something. So, she never says anything until she is certain it is a permanent improvement. God bless! jim FAMANSON@... wrote: > > Dear Jim, > > I'm not sure I understand how the CD works . I suppose it must be the > frequency which triggers the return of vision. In any case if you get > positive results please let me know. > > Also, I just posted Duncan on what type of Ozone machine he is using to help > his macular degeneration. As you may recall I only have the inexpensive type > that ozonates water through its plastic tube. What type of ozonator are you > using with your Mom. It must be fairly simple if she is able to make it do > its work. Also what type of protocol. I supposed how many minutes in each > ear. > > Yes, I am taking the Bilberry and Lutein which I get from the Vitamin Shoppe. > My eyesight is improving slowly from the HBO chamber, but I suspect what > your Mom is doing is better. In any case I intend to get the type you have. > > Dr. Stauch has told me that MSM drops and Eyebright are both good, but I have > only tried the MSM drops but not too frequently, so I haven't given it a fair > trial. > > The Ozone hook up sounds the most promising. Actually I believe Ozone is the > best answer for most all our ailments. Your friend, -- " Roccy Raccoon is a stalker! " -- J. Clay Lambert jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience/home.html http://www.entrance.to/poetry/poems1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 Hi It is my understanding that Dr. Kurt Ebert, developer of Attractor Field Therapy has discovered the frequency that resonates with the acupuncture points and then invented a CD in which he digitally inserts the tapping protocols as outlined in his Attractor Field Manual. This eliminates the need to do the tapping. For eyesight problems, it says to do the tapping procedure every day for 6 months. My father is 87 and I imagine it will take at least that long with the CD to see an improvement in his macular degeneration. However, I purchased a special CD on which are protocols for respiratory problems, and dementia as well as the macular degeneration. I am expecting to see some improvement in his dementia first. He has a slight tremor which I trust will decrease and his mind will become more clear. I expect to see these improvements before the macular degeneration. I am open to everything happening sooner rather than later. Best wishes Kallie 4optimallife@... http://www.4optimallife.com Magnetic Sleep Pads, Zappers, Ionizing- Alkalizing Water Filters, Rebounders, Energy Therapies, Re: Re: Macular degeneration Dear Jim, I'm not sure I understand how the CD works . I suppose it must be the frequency which triggers the return of vision. In any case if you get positive results please let me know. snip>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 I would like to get this CD, where can one do this? Re: Re: Macular degeneration Hi It is my understanding that Dr. Kurt Ebert, developer of Attractor Field Therapy has discovered the frequency that resonates with the acupuncture points and then invented a CD in which he digitally inserts the tapping protocols as outlined in his Attractor Field Manual. This eliminates the need to do the tapping. For eyesight problems, it says to do the tapping procedure every day for 6 months. My father is 87 and I imagine it will take at least that long with the CD to see an improvement in his macular degeneration. However, I purchased a special CD on which are protocols for respiratory problems, and dementia as well as the macular degeneration. I am expecting to see some improvement in his dementia first. He has a slight tremor which I trust will decrease and his mind will become more clear. I expect to see these improvements before the macular degeneration. I am open to everything happening sooner rather than later. Best wishes Kallie 4optimallife@... http://www.4optimallife.com Magnetic Sleep Pads, Zappers, Ionizing- Alkalizing Water Filters, Rebounders, Energy Therapies, Re: Re: Macular degeneration Dear Jim, I'm not sure I understand how the CD works . I suppose it must be the frequency which triggers the return of vision. In any case if you get positive results please let me know. snip>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2002 Report Share Posted May 20, 2002 Dear Jim, Sounds as if I ought to try Model 60 or the Alpha Model. Are they both equally effective. Is one easier to operate than the other and do you suppose Saul has any used models. As soon as I find it working I am going to recommend this to my sister. I forgot to mention she also has glaucoma and I don't know if this makes a difference. Your Mom's results are the proof of the pudding. And I wouldn't mind the itching with eyesight improvement. Also, I think Saul once told me that one of these models was good for vertigo, possibly the same model. The isolated whey sounds interesting as it might have something to do with pH. I believe a balanced pH makes all the difference in how one feels. Would appreciate your recommendations on which model to order. Saul has already told me that my current machine would be like eye droppers used to fill a rain barrel. It has limited usage for air and water. All the best, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2002 Report Share Posted May 20, 2002 Dear Jim With the hundreds of thousands coming down with macular degeneration it sounds as if the Ozone ear insulation might be the number one therapy, plus using Bilberry/Lutein, Vizion, possibly the Whey, HBO definitely helps, but the expense makes its beyond reach of most, and as with brain damage, macular degeneration is not recognized as a reimbursable indication. But the eye problem is becoming so widespread its needs wider public involvement through the media, congressional hearings and perhaps the Discovery Channel which is doing a hyperbaric oxygen special on August 5th. Producer tells me its a blockbuster and will awaken national interest. When I went to Bethesdfa, Md. for the laser surgery with Dr. Glaser, the room as so filled I couldn't find a seat. Somewhere between 30 and 40 all for the surgery as that is Dr. Glaser's specialty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2002 Report Share Posted May 20, 2002 I wonder if there is a link to Aspartame? Greg Re: Re: Macular degeneration > Dear Jim > > With the hundreds of thousands coming down with macular degeneration it > sounds as if the Ozone ear insulation might be the number one therapy, plus > using Bilberry/Lutein, Vizion, possibly the Whey, HBO definitely helps, but > the expense makes its beyond reach of most, and as with brain damage, macular > degeneration is not recognized as a reimbursable indication. But the eye > problem is becoming so widespread its needs wider public involvement through > the media, congressional hearings and perhaps the Discovery Channel which is > doing a hyperbaric oxygen special on August 5th. Producer tells me its a > blockbuster and will awaken national interest. > > When I went to Bethesdfa, Md. for the laser surgery with Dr. Glaser, the room > as so filled I couldn't find a seat. Somewhere between 30 and 40 all for the > surgery as that is Dr. Glaser's specialty. > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2002 Report Share Posted May 20, 2002 , You aren't more than 3 hours from me. I'm a little over 90 minutes to Mannassas. You aren't far from there, are you? I'll swap you a loan of my Alpha model for an HBOT treatment. ;-) To the lay mind I see no intrinsic difference between the model 60 & Alpha. Saul would have to tell what is in the box. ;-) To the user, they are the same. Oxygen in, ozone out & an on/off switch. That is why my mom has no trouble operating it. The only other As for which to buy, I believe Saul still has two sizes. The model 60 & Alpha are both the larger one, whose output is needed for a sauna. As for used, you'd have to ask Saul. I know he has occasionally had one. The itching from ear insufflation is somewhat worse for me and my mother than the rash on other parts of the body, possibly because we normally never have sensation there, and it is more sensitive. At any rate, mom controls that with shorter treatments, on the reasoning that some is better than none. jim FAMANSON@... wrote: > > Dear Jim, > > Sounds as if I ought to try Model 60 or the Alpha Model. Are they both > equally effective. Is one easier to operate than the other and do you > suppose Saul has any used models. > > As soon as I find it working I am going to recommend this to my sister. I > forgot to mention she also has glaucoma and I don't know if this makes a > difference. > > Your Mom's results are the proof of the pudding. And I wouldn't mind the > itching with eyesight improvement. Also, I think Saul once told me that one > of these models was good for vertigo, possibly the same model. > > The isolated whey sounds interesting as it might have something to do with > pH. I believe a balanced pH makes all the difference in how one feels. > > Would appreciate your recommendations on which model to order. Saul has > already told me that my current machine would be like eye droppers used to > fill a rain barrel. It has limited usage for air and water. All the best, > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2002 Report Share Posted May 20, 2002 IN your case maybe that is true but have you heard the saying " The straw that broke the camel's back " ? I bet it wasn't the last straw loaded onto the camel, if you left him for a few days, I bet his back still would have broken without that last straw. Did you ever take aspirin on a regular basis? Our bodies don't necessarily respond immediately, especially to toxins. It may take a while to deteriorate the cells until, suddenly, we notice and think it happened overnight. Then we have been trained to expect our bodies to deteriorate with age and we go to the good ol' doctor to have him " fix us " . Most, don't know how but detox yourself and miracles will happen. Best, Ken Re: Re: Macular degeneration > Dear Ken > > Aspirin did not have any effect on my MD, as I was not taking it when the > problem suddenly emerged, almost overnight. I had never heard that Aspirin > might be a cause. I have attributed it to age and a deficiency of needed > nutrients for good vision. Manson > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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