Re: Perplexing Bloodwork

[Guest guest]

Hello Steve,

Wow. Hope you are able to figure things out.

Part of the problem may be the MMS2. You may find this paper informative.

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/tx015548d

When you visit your doctor you may want to share the amounts and frequency of

the sodium chlorite and calcium hypochlorite you have been taking. There is a

possibility that your abnormal results may be caused by oxidative damage.

Tom

>

> Hi,

>

> I've been using MMS1 and 2 over the last 6-8 months on a regular basis

figuring it has to be good for me. The benefits are that I have not been sick

at all. I have had a few colds or flus start to develop but taking MMS has

stopped them in hours.

>

> Just had my annual physical along with the bloodwork that goes with it. My

doctor was alarmed with the results showing a pretty low white blood cell count

along with a very high level of monocytes.

>

> My understanding is that monocytes become significant when you are fighting a

serious infection. Only I haven't been sick, I've been taking MMS which SHOULD

reduce stress on my immune system, etc.

>

> My doctor was adequately alarmed that his office immediately scheduled me to

see an oncologist..... along with additional bloodwork.

>

> I've spent a little time googling around looking at what this could mean and

it's not exactly pretty. Most likely scenarios seem to be leukemia, lymphoma

or multiple myeloma. There are other possibilities of course.

>

> I'm trying to make sense of the limited info I have. One theory is that

although MMS is great for almost all diseases, it might not be helpful with

certain cancers if they are of a nature that they don't have the ph that makes

them vulnerable to MMS. Multiple myeloma, as I understand it, results from a

mutated red blood cell that is long lived and replicates itself, eventually

crowding out the healthy red blood cells.

>

> Anybody have thoughts on this? I'll know more on August 4 when I meet my new

doctor, the oncologist.

>

> Steve

>

[Guest guest]

Evening Herman,

I'm not a professional in anything...but I looked up monocytes, and yes,

there are other possibilities

MONOCYTES and MONOCYTE COUNT

These cells are helpful in fighting severe infections and are considered the

bodies second line of defense against infection and are the largest cells in

the blood stream. Elevated levels are seen in tissue breakdown or chronic

infections, carcinomas, leukemia (monocytic) or lymphomas. Low levels are

indicative of a state of health.

Normal Adult Range: 0 - 9%

Optimal Adult Reading: 4.5

So sure cancer is one of the possibilities but before you embrace that as

the most likely, infection is also a main reason or tissue breakdown.

And certainly I am just poking around but maybe consider stopping all

oxidative protocols and flooding your body with antioxidants before your

next blood test to see if that brings on any shift. If I were standing in

your physical shoes I'd be taking every antioxidant I could think of. Are

you taking any now?

How much mms 1 and 2 are you taking?

" Hypochlorite produces tissue injury by liquefaction necrosis. Systemic

toxicity is rare, but metabolic acidosis may occur after ingestion. "

Just maybe you have over oxidation?

rose

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the thoughts. Actually, I had only occasionally taken MMS2. At one

time was taking MMS1 religiously, but about a month ago I decided to only take 1

or 2 when I had some sort of symptom. Since I had no indication of illness that

I could see, I haven't had any for some time, maybe a month prior to bloodwork.

After the bloodwork on July 1, I have refrained entirely in order to establish

as 'normal' a situation as I could for the next blood draw due on the 26th.

I'll have a visit with my oncologist and get the lowdown on August 4.

All bets are off until then, but I'm taking this seriously and trying to

understand and accept the range of possibilities.

[Guest guest]

Hi again Steve (thought it was Herman, sry)

http://www.aquachem.cn/ProductShow.asp?ID=553

Inert Ingredients:(only for reference)

Calcium Hypochlorite: 70%min

Sodium chloride: 20%max

Calcium Hydroxide: 5%max

Calcium Carbonate: 2.5%max

Calcium Chlorite: 4%max

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcium_hydroxide

Calcium hydroxide, traditionally called slaked lime, hydrated lime, slack

lime, or pickling lime, is a chemical compound with the chemical formula

Ca(OH)2

Ingestion: internal bleeding, possible perforation of esophagus, severe

pain, vomiting, diarrhea, and collapse.

[Guest guest]

monocytes produce the highly cytotoxic hypochlorous acid[mms2]

From: Herman Zermitz <chuberry@...> Sent: Sun, July 18, 2010 4:53:42 PMSubject: [ ] Perplexing Bloodwork

Hi, I've been using MMS1 and 2 over the last 6-8 months on a regular basis figuring it has to be good for me. The benefits are that I have not been sick at all. I have had a few colds or flus start to develop but taking MMS has stopped them in hours.Just had my annual physical along with the bloodwork that goes with it. My doctor was alarmed with the results showing a pretty low white blood cell count along with a very high level of monocytes.My understanding is that monocytes become significant when you are fighting a serious infection. Only I haven't been sick, I've been taking MMS which SHOULD reduce stress on my immune system, etc.My doctor was adequately alarmed that his office immediately scheduled me to see an oncologist..... along with additional bloodwork.I've spent a little time googling around looking at what this could mean and it's not exactly pretty. Most likely scenarios seem to be leukemia,

lymphoma or multiple myeloma. There are other possibilities of course. I'm trying to make sense of the limited info I have. One theory is that although MMS is great for almost all diseases, it might not be helpful with certain cancers if they are of a nature that they don't have the ph that makes them vulnerable to MMS. Multiple myeloma, as I understand it, results from a mutated red blood cell that is long lived and replicates itself, eventually crowding out the healthy red blood cells.Anybody have thoughts on this? I'll know more on August 4 when I meet my new doctor, the oncologist.Steve

[Guest guest]

Hi Rose,

Do you know what the stats are for leukemia using oleander soup?

Carole in Oz

Eideann, Fionn & Guepard (Tristania GSDs)carole@...www.berigorafarm.com.au

All bets are off until then, but I'm taking this seriously and trying to understand and accept the range of possibilities.

Well sure...and if it 'is' then many effective protocols are at your disposal. I haven't cked in on the oleander list but Luella was telling me few weeks ago that they are having a high rate of remission for ones that follow the diet with the oleander soup.

That's just one of many as you know...it can be sorted out.

Thoughts are with you thru the 'field'

Xxx

rose

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[Guest guest]

Everiyhing is a stress to the body.MMS1 and 2 is huge stress,how can You think

is relax?

I suggest to check DR clark Hulda how you can swich back to be North pole ,in

your state the blood iron by bacterias transferred to be south pole ,because

they are inding to and feeding with,for me is hard to explain pluss maybe You

will not understand.But aware radiosack stores marking the magnets not for

medicine use and they are opposite.hulde clark sells marked magnets.actually in

North are the south pole medically and in south the north pole,so then if you

hold a nort pole magnets to a magnet pointing north and attaching to ,then that

is a medical North magnet. Also only daytime put medical north magnet to the

kidney area to all blood getting back north pole,and then the iron content

shortly will be in good count.And sicness left.gb

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> monocytes produce the highly cytotoxic hypochlorous acid[mms2]

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> From: Herman Zermitz <chuberry@...>

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> Sent: Sun, July 18, 2010 4:53:42 PM

> Subject: [ ] Perplexing Bloodwork

>

>  

> Hi,

>

> I've been using MMS1 and 2 over the last 6-8 months on a regular basis

figuring

> it has to be good for me. The benefits are that I have not been sick at all. I

> have had a few colds or flus start to develop but taking MMS has stopped them

in

> hours.

>

> Just had my annual physical along with the bloodwork that goes with it. My

> doctor was alarmed with the results showing a pretty low white blood cell

count

> along with a very high level of monocytes.

>

> My understanding is that monocytes become significant when you are fighting a

> serious infection. Only I haven't been sick, I've been taking MMS which SHOULD

> reduce stress on my immune system, etc.

>

> My doctor was adequately alarmed that his office immediately scheduled me to

see

> an oncologist..... along with additional bloodwork.

>

> I've spent a little time googling around looking at what this could mean and

> it's not exactly pretty. Most likely scenarios seem to be leukemia, lymphoma

or

> multiple myeloma. There are other possibilities of course.

>

>

> I'm trying to make sense of the limited info I have. One theory is that

although

> MMS is great for almost all diseases, it might not be helpful with certain

> cancers if they are of a nature that they don't have the ph that makes them

> vulnerable to MMS. Multiple myeloma, as I understand it, results from a

mutated

> red blood cell that is long lived and replicates itself, eventually crowding

out

> the healthy red blood cells.

>

> Anybody have thoughts on this? I'll know more on August 4 when I meet my new

> doctor, the oncologist.

>

> Steve

>