Re: please put MMS5 instructions in the group files.

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is a 6 drop a day ok?

From: silverfox_science <poast@...> Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 2:45:40 PMSubject: [ ] Re: please put MMS5 instructions in the group files.

Hello ,When you have too much oxidation in your body, you suffer oxidative stress. This can show up as impaired brain function, damage to blood cells and organs, and a whole list of other problems.Blood tests can be done to check for the number of blood cells, dried blood can be viewed under a microscope, and there are some laboratories that do some other tests.Here is one laboratory that is promoting testing for oxidative stress:http://www.genovadiagnostics.com/files/profile_assets/referenced_materials/oxstress2_supportguide.pdfYou would have to review what they are doing and their references to see if their testing would be of benefit.The Lubbers study on humans ingesting chlorine dioxide in water also had an excellent list of tests for oxidative stress.As far as MMS goes, there are no studies involving humans ingesting acidified sodium chlorite. This means that you are on your own for

monitoring oxidative stress in your body. If you do a search on the indications of oxidative stress you will find that they start off with subtle changes in the bodies chemistry. These small changes are difficult to observe without testing.Tom>> what's a good example of to much oxidation when using mms. or is it harmless in > small doses like everyone seems to say?>

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Hello Kathy,

It is wonderful to hear your daughter has recovered and is remaining in good

health.

Tim asked about using the combination in a bath. There is a lot more water in a

bath than the 3cc you used. DMSO acts as an antioxidant, to some degree, so in

a very dilute solution there is less chlorine dioxide to start with.

Looking at your mix, you start with a little over 1300 PPM free chlorine

dioxide, and adding the DMSO would bring that down to around 1000 PPM. Using

lemon juice keeps the PH high enough that it doesn't irritate the skin as much,

and the topical application bypasses the stomach issues. When you reduced the

amount of DMSO, the amount of free chlorine dioxide would increase.

I don't think DMSO is necessary in topical applications. Chlorine dioxide is so

reactive I think the DMSO makes the solution less effective. I don't have any

data showing one way or the other, but in theory chlorine dioxide is very

capable by itself.

Tom

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> So, can you test AMMS, using lemon juice, distilled water, and DMSO like we

did in my daughters battle with cancer and see if there was any chlorine dioxide

available? If I remember correctly, we use 10 drops of MMS, 30 drops of lemon

juice, 3 cc distilled water, and 5 cc DMSO to start with, then I decided to

modify it and only use 10 drops of lemon juice as it seemed to make the same

amount of gas and took less time to apply and 1 cc of DMSO as I am very

familiar that DMSO doesnt have to be alot to work. This made it was less to

apply and soak in. We activated the MMS with the lemon juice, waited 5 minutes,

then added the water and DMSO and painted it on her skin several times daily,

like every hour for 10 hours for 4 days. Then off for a few days, five I think,

and repeated. This is what I best remember, but lost the original instructions.

As an aside she has been declared cancer free for almost two years now with no

other changes made, except for a gluten free diet for 6 weeks about the same

time we used the above combination. How interesting to think that the DMSO might

alter the MMS and either make a new compound or cause it to dissipate. Also, how

long after the two were mixed in your tests was it found to be neutralized?

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Hello ,

6 drops activated in half a glass of water will give you a concentration of 380

PPM available chlorine dioxide with about 38 PPM of that as free chlorine

dioxide.

The Lubbers study revealed that 5 PPM total chlorine dioxide was safe when it

was consumed daily for 12 weeks.

As you can see there is quite a difference in concentrations.

My " gut " feel is that if you are in " reasonable " health, there will be minimal

to no issues with short term use of 6 drops. Unfortunately, I have no test data

to back that up.

If you want to " hedge your bet " on the side of safety, put the 6 drop mixture in

1 liter of water. That would reduce the concentration to about 47 PPM available

chlorine dioxide with about 5 PPM of that as free chlorine dioxide.

Tom

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tom

thank you. i use to drink it everyday, but now i'm doing it when needed only. i would do it everyday if i thought or new for sure it was'nt harming me? maybe someone will be able to determine this in more detail in the future. blessings.

kevin

From: silverfox_science <poast@...> Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 9:30:11 AMSubject: [ ] Re: please put MMS5 instructions in the group files.

Hello ,6 drops activated in half a glass of water will give you a concentration of 380 PPM available chlorine dioxide with about 38 PPM of that as free chlorine dioxide. The Lubbers study revealed that 5 PPM total chlorine dioxide was safe when it was consumed daily for 12 weeks.As you can see there is quite a difference in concentrations.My "gut" feel is that if you are in "reasonable" health, there will be minimal to no issues with short term use of 6 drops. Unfortunately, I have no test data to back that up.If you want to "hedge your bet" on the side of safety, put the 6 drop mixture in 1 liter of water. That would reduce the concentration to about 47 PPM available chlorine dioxide with about 5 PPM of that as free chlorine dioxide.Tom>> is a 6 drop a day ok?> > >

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On 2010-08-25 12:14 AM, healinghope <mfrreman@...> wrote:

> Others argue that chlorine dioxide has been around for years, true,

> but never used for human disinfection if you will:) until that day in

> the jungle.

Correction: Jim originally used something that had been around and used

by a very many people for many years prior to him using it - it was

known by many names back then, among them 'Aerobic Oxygen', 'Stabilized

Oxygen', etc. In his own words, he happened to have a bottle of it with

him when someone he was with came down with Malaria, and he gave it to

him (as I recall the guy drank the whole bottle), and apparently was

'cured'.

I have since learned that others were even promoting the activation of

these original products long before Jim did, although I admittedly had

never personally seen it advertised like that.

What Jim did and deserves no small credit for was to popularize it. That

said, he did so by making claims of 'miraculously cures 98% of everybody

of 98% of everything' (at least, that is how *I* became aware of it),

which is why the FDA is now clamping down on it so hard. Thankfully,

they will only be successful in shutting down those selling pre-packaged

MMS solutions - those of us who know how to make it ourselves will not

have a problem.

One other thing I credit him for is leading me to the most likely

explanation for why those original products worked so well for some

(some people I know and whose opinion I value), and not so well for

others (myself included)... that being how to 'activate' it using an

acid. Apparently the reason the other products worked so well for some

is they had high HCl (hydrochloric acid) production in their digestive

system. Those who did not, were not generating enough stomach acid to

'activate' it properly/naturally, so they didn't derive the same benefit.